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[add comment] [edit] Thanks! [3 January 2010]Thanks for fixing Place:Prince William, Virginia, United States!! I knew something went terribly wrong but even looking at the history, I couldn't figure out how or when. Looks like I put the category in the wrong place. Sigh . . .--Janiejac 11:45, 3 January 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Cleaning up place fields? [19 January 2010]Morning! I see that you cleaned up a place description on Person:Anna Unknown (193). Thanks. The GEDCOMs I've contributed were initially created with FTM software which-- at least at the time-- did not have DESC fields for each fact. Therefore I used the PLACE field for both place and description, when necessary. I have a lot of clean-up to do. Are you working on an overall PLACE cleanup? If so, I'm happy to help by working on my own pages. Let me know. Jillaine 10:13, 18 January 2010 (EST) (BTW..) I've been cleaning up Categories in a similar manner, by reviewing Special:Categories. I thought there might be a similar special page for Places, but I don't see one. How are you cleaning up Place names? Thanks. -- Jillaine 10:19, 18 January 2010 (EST) Hi there! I'm just going through Special:Categories randomly and picking ones that jump out at me! If they say something like Surname in and a description after it (like 1st cousin, or an occupation, etc) that will catch my eye. Words after the Surname part are an indication that text appears in a place field that doesn't belong. There are soooooo many that any effort feels like a tiny drop in the bucket. I'm also going through Special:Wantedcategories which lists the top 1000 wanted categories (refreshed daily). I'll do the top 10 or so. By looking at the Special categories, can you even imagine Dallan creating these "wanted" pages automatically? Whew! What a mess!--Jennifer (JBS66) 10:29, 18 January 2010 (EST)
Thanks for cleaning up my "place" and "descr" errors. As someone has already mentioned, FamilyTreeMaker didn't have a distinction between the two--the latest version does. I appreciate your editing!--SemlakGirl 12:51, 19 January 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] category project [20 January 2010]Jennifer, I've been 'bold' and added Goals and Purpose to the category project page. Feel free to remove or edit if you want. I won't object. I woke up thinking of these things! I notice that there are NO watchers listed on this page. But the menu gives me an option to 'unwatch' the page. Is that because of the type of page it is? Hopefully, not because there are no interested users. Why is there no list? I expect there are other 'Project' pages also but I didn't see them listed in the brief scan I did of categories. So I found them by searching for special projects. But I still don't know the parent category of these special projects. --Janiejac 09:03, 20 January 2010 (EST) I think it's wonderful that you've been so bold! You have brought up some great points, and your questions help us all to refine our ideas. You made a comment on that page, "I'm not an administrator but I keep throwing my two cents"... well, you don't need to be an admin to participate. We can all contribute our ideas, questions, expertise - just like you are doing. There are actually a few people watching the category project page. Watchers don't appear anywhere on any of the pages in our WeRelate namespace. To find them, you need to search for the page and look at the list of watchers in the results. You can do that search by clicking here. 7 Users are watching the page right now. There are other projects pages.. I went searching for them too, right before I made the category one. They don't seem to have any categories attached to them, so they are harder to find than a needle in a haystack! I found a few with this search--Jennifer (JBS66) 09:13, 20 January 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] frustrationeeming to be to complicated for me , much more complicated thn ancestry .com, set In ( time to delete )Complications not my bag) [30 January 2010]appr 18 or more messages review ged ,when i try it says cant, i get mssgs from dall, jillean, an others ,cant, review ,to many just sittin ,not a good picture from this end , I try an always keep my life an associated things ,issues SImple < this is way to complicated , > could be me ! But Maybe i try later ,interested now only in deleting, so i can start new later ,months from now maybe ! Help--Mikekib 11:17, 30 January 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Duplicates [3 February 2010]Hi. A lot of Dutch names are appearing on the duplicate list. I think they are from your gedcom imports. I wasn't sure if you were aware of these. --Judy (jlanoux) 01:08, 3 February 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] No Merge Template [26 February 2010]Hi Jennifer, got your message on the updated No-Merge Template. Thanks, will use on future person pages. Best regards, Jim:) (Volunteer Administrator on WeRelate)--Delijim 12:49, 26 February 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Irish placenames [25 March 2010]Jennifer, The Irish address should be: Townland, Parish, County, Republic of Ireland
Now for your questions These are the correct names 1. Doonogan, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland same name many different spellings 2. Ilaunbawn,Kilfarboy,Clare, Republic of Ireland many different spellings 3. Friegh Castle, Kilfarboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland Friegh Castle is near Miltown Malbay 4. Lackamore, Kilfarboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland 5. Leana, Killinaboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland 6. Annagh, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland They are all the same 7. Ballyvaskin North, Kilfarboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland There are two twonlands North and South 8. Knockanalban, Kilmurry-Ibrickan, Clare, Republic of Ireland This is one of the townlands with about 5 local names like Mount Scott, Frehane, Knocknageragh, Quartermire etc. I will include the local name in my text. 9. Killnaboy Graveyard, Killnaboy, Killnaboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland The graveyards are in the townlands they are named after 10. Killernan Graveyard, Killernan, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland I corrected the rest of the haven't figured out yet. Haven't figured out yet * Place:Toureen, Kilfarboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Kildimo, Kilfarboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Dunsallagh Kilmurry-Ibrickane,Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Ballymakea, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Shanaway, Kilmurry-Ibrickan, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Shanaway Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Knockanalban, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Carhuligane, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Dromoher, Killnaboy, Clare, Republic of Ireland * Place:Clare, Kilmurry, Cork, Republic of Ireland (Delete this one) * Place:Coore, Kilmurry-Ibrickane, Republic of Ireland I hope this helps Remember some townlands are have other names as East West, North, south, Upper, Lower, Middle,etc. Thanks for your help I would like to get this in the townland, parish, county, Ireland format. Kevin J O'Brien--O'Brien 18:27, 24 March 2010 (EDT) Jennifer, This is my first time on a wiki. I haven't figured how to navigate through the program yet. I watched most of the tutorials. Thanks for your help. Kevin--O'Brien 17:22, 25 March 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Gedcom for User:Fostoria1964 [1 April 2010]Hi Jennifer, I was looking at the gedcom uploaded by User:Fostoria1964. It has several error messages and many very obvious errors (children born several years before marriage date, etc). You should probably delete it and have the user work to correct the errors before it is uploaded. I see that you were going to delete it on March 30th. Just wanted you to know. Best regards, Jim:)--Delijim 13:26, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Source Naming Conventions [5 April 2010]Jennifer, Thanks for the correction on: (Source:DeKalb, Alabama, United States. 1930 U.S. Census renamed to Source:DeKalb, Alabama, United States. 1930 U.S. Census Population Schedule: Following naming convention) This is our first week and trying not to spin out on the learning curve! Jay--Jayharris 12:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Duplicates [6 apr 2010]Hi Jennifer, I discovered that there are still a lot of duplicates in WeRelate, caused by the different languagenames I think. I just uploaded a new gedcom with known duplicates but the gedcom tool did not discover these duplicates. I will merge all afterwards. --Regards, salutations, Grüssen, groeten, Fred Bergman 03:31, 6 April 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Thank You [6 April 2010]Hello Jennifer, Thank You for your computer editing and grammar skills on the Welcome1 Template page. I appreciate it. Hope you are having a good day. Debbie Freeman --DFree 10:56, 6 April 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Places [7 April 2010]Look here for the usual country and dutch province name codes--Regards, Fred Bergman 17:16, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Editing Pages [5 May 2010]I was wondering about editing pages: Is it better to add ancestor stories/sources on the person page rather than the family page with the sources there? I've been putting them on the family page, but I noticed (John Richey (9) and John Richey and Martha unknown (1) (that there is a source box after the name on the person page and not on the family page. On my grandfather Paul Richey (1) I but bits of the story on all three b/c he had two marriages, but I've been thinking that might begin to take up a lot of space in the computer if you did it everywhere. Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 11:09, 4 May 2010 (EDT)
Thanks, I think I figured this out. See John Richey (9) Will redo it. Pam One other thing, I have quite a bit of information on John Richey's probate that is important to the family. What would be the best way to present this? Should I do an Article page or is there a better way? I have 5-6 images + details on how the probate progressed. There will be links to children's pages . Thanks.
[add comment] [edit] Transclusion [1 June 2010]Thanks so much for your instructions on "Transclusion". this seems to be exatly what I was looking for to meet JRich's concerns of not duplicating information while still having a more narrative Family page. Will other contributors to the page understand the context or do you think a small note o the page might help? I.e. "Select information here has been transcluded from a separate WeRelate page." I guess anyone wanting to update would see the direction to the original info page anyway though.!? Thanks again for your help.--B.holmes 07:28, 6 May 2010 (EDT) Thanks again for your help. I though that I had implemented your suggested change to Hannah Bickerstaff (1) sucessfully, but must have still been a problem?--B.holmes 06:16, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
Thanks, your suggestion of transclusion was just what I was looking for. I think that its use on a family page to bring in some of the two parents, and the important childrens page info adds to a more interesting reading of the family page. All this with out duplicating any information, confusing the citation from the other pages etc. I tried to point back to the individual "person" page within the transcluded text so that anyone on the family page can go directly to the editable page and see the source citations for the transcluded text plus any additional information on the person. I guess this use of the family page is not to the liking of some of the more pureist genealogist here on WR. I will try to go back to my earlier entries of my tree and my children and late wife's tree to eliminate the duplication that I have used to get the format prior to your trasclusion suggestion. Thanks again for your great help. BTW, my children's maternal line, Bourie/Bouret and Meloche, goes back into the French Canadian area. So I may need your help there as well. Cheers, B.Holmes--B.holmes 08:10, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
Small world! FRANCIS [François] Bouret and Ann Paradis are my children's 6th Great Grandparents. Also, Thanks yet again for the reference to the book. I had copies of the Bourie pages from the Dennison book,Genealogy of the French Families of the Detroit River Region. Tanguay, page 419, agrees with their line down to Louis Bouret and Mary Teresa [Marie-Therese] BOILARD, but does not report a son, Louis B. Bouret who m. Mary Francoise Meloche, which is mentioned in Dennison and later Meloche family publications. Would you know of any source of records from St Anne's Church, Detroit, where they were married? I thought it might have their parents listed. I found a records book for St Anne's Church, on line but no online access. I will try to add the couple of generations up to your François Boure (1). Happy to find the connection. PS Obviouly I have not found out how to add the French letter accents on WR yet.--B.holmes 09:15, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Hello again. I am trying some other uses of transclusion and ran into a question. I made a page to a will so I could use it two places w/o duplication. Problem is I don't know how to call the page. The page type when added was left as "(main)" since all pull down options didn't seem to be applicable. The page where I am calling for transclusion is: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Family:Robert_Wade_and_Elizabeth_Hampton_%282%29#The_Will_of_Robert_Wade.2C_Sr. Cheers, B.Holmes--B.holmes 07:36, 20 May 2010 (EDT)
Hello again. Back with a problem related to transclusion of an article page. Making articles of US Treaties with the Indians that the Bourie descendents participated in. The form
Schedule B of the Treaty stipulates the John B. Bourie be paid $2500. By this time his father had died and his mother had remarried. His mother, Frances (Meloche Bourie) Felex is to be paid $1100. John B Bourie and his siblings: David, Caroline Bourie Ferry, Harriet Bourie Ewing, Nancy Bourie Hedges and her husband John P. Hedges, are also mentioned as being paid $500 each for approved claims.
[add comment] [edit] Census [16 May 2010]I created 1850 Upshur, Texas if you want to check it for me. Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 14:12, 15 May 2010 (EDT) Hello Pam, I checked Source:Morris, Texas, United States. 1850 U.S. Census Population Schedule (I didn't see an 1850 Upshur one). You are placing the template correctly there, nice job! I just made the following small edits:
Of these 3 items, #1 is really the one to keep in mind. #2-3 are nice to have, but I tend to check census sources anyway - as these little details are often forgotten by users. It sure would be nice if Dallan could create all the census pages automatically!--Jennifer (JBS66) 14:25, 15 May 2010 (EDT) Did I leave the date out of the 1850 date field or does it go somewhere else? and where does the subject census go? I thought these fields were completed, but maybe they were not. Thanks, Pam
Thanks for fixing mine as well! I'll try to follow the rules from here on. The link to the county info in Wikipedia is great idea and useful when new counties are formed I would suspect.--B.holmes 14:32, 16 May 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] French Canadian Immigration records [17 May 2010]I was looking at the site you indicated and found the following for our common interest. BOURRET dit LÉPINE, Gilles (M). INSEE:50474. Pl: St-Georges-de-Rouelley. Zone: Manche. Dest: Québec The from and to are fairly clear. I could not find what the INSEE:# refered to. And is Québec used here the City, region or? Last fall we had a week with friends in Brittany. We drove back to Paris making a detour through St-Georges-de-Rouelley. No time, no research, just a drive thru. :(--B.holmes 14:39, 16 May 2010 (EDT)
Thanks again. I had hoped it was a reference to a ship voyage that he had sailed over on.--B.holmes 07:02, 17 May 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Thanks - Welcome page additions [17 May 2010]Hello, I like the new additions you added to the Welcome page. Thank You, Debbie Freeman --DFree 15:03, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
doesn't seem to work? As applied in Person:John Bourie (1)
--B.holmes 08:54, 1 June 2010 (EDT) OK this is very wierd. I tried once again in Person:John Bourie (1). I removed the duplicate text above the call for transclusion and only left the call template and a little added text ad all of a sudden it works just like you said. Sorry to bother anyway, my problem is solved somehow. Cheers.--B.holmes 09:03, 1 June 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Person: William Gray 110 [27 May 2010]Jennifer, This page is not showing a preview of my source 1880 census for DeKalb Alabama which I have entered on other pages -William Gray (112) ok. Can you see what is wrong as I can't figure it out. Thanks.--Txbluebell6 14:03, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Setting up a Cemetery [29 May 2010]Jennifer, Will you help me set up a cemetery page for Sarah Gray (52) sister to William Gray you are watching for us? http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/topic/cemeteries/Etx/Hopkins/cemetery/PineForestA-L.htm I need to learn how to do this. I searched places and did not find it. Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 12:01, 28 May 2010 (EDT) I see that User:Jrm03063 made a few edits to this cemetery page (thank you JRM!), but I have a question for you Pam. Is the Pine Forest Cemetery in Picton? Usually we follow Find a Grave, and I see they have it just in Hopkins County. Sometimes cemeteries straddle multiple counties, and in that case we put them underneath the county only, rather than a town. --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:38, 28 May 2010 (EDT) I don't think so. I was surprised that it came up Pickton. "Pine Forest Cemetery is in Hopkins County. It's 3 miles south of Interstate 30 from Weaver on FM 269 and .7 miles north of Pickton" This is what the cemetery description says, it is north of Pickton. I think we should correct it. If we do, does it fix the pages I have already linked? Thanks, Pam Hi Jennifer, When "outside linking" a cemetery to the Place page, is "Find-a-Grave" a required link? If so, should I delete any other? Thanks. Jim
Jennifer, Thanks again! Sorry about the omissions in the Jackson, Alabama Census Source page. I knew to select "Census Records" for the Subject but goofed. The "From-To" dates I though unnecessary for it was in the title. I guess the software is expecting some sort of date in that field for all pages whether for a snapshot of time or over an extended period. If you had five others like me at the same time your family/friends would never see you! :-( I have to get it right for Census is one of my primary Source documents. Have a great day. :-) Jim
Jennifer, Thanks for you helpful and caring spirit. God bless! Jim [add comment] [edit] Republic of TexasJennifer, Do we have a location for the "Republic of Texas" -- that time when Texas was not part of the United States -- 1836 - 1846?. I have a lot of ancestor activity during this period and selecting Texas as part of the United States is not correct. Am I missing something? Thanks, Pam
[add comment] [edit] 1860 Hopkins County Census [9 June 2010]Jenifer, This census still has the location at the beginning and needs to be corrected. I don't seem to be able to correct it. Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 13:02, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
We're about to get all of them. I thought this was still part of my 'first day' mess. Thanks, Pam [add comment] [edit] 1850 Census for Itawamba, MS [15 June 2010]Jennifer, Could you please check the 1850 U S Census name for Itawamba and see why it is coming up as it is on this page: Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 11:36, 14 June 2010 (EDT)
Thanks -- Have a great day! Pam [add comment] [edit] Pedigree Map [9 July 2010]Hi Jennifer, Two of my person pages show 'China' on my Pedigree Map and I can't figure out why. Can you take a look? They are Person:Thomas Clayton (30) and Person:James Clayton (12). Click on All Places. Thanks. Pam--Txbluebell6 08:29, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Ok Thanks, it's possible I may have done this on some other cemeteries... I'll watch out for this. Pam [add comment] [edit] Pickins Alabama census [9 July 2010]Hi Jennifer, I am trying to enter the 1860 Census for Pickins, Alabama and it will not bring up the location. All I get is pickinsvile, AL. I already have it set up on John W Pollard page a few days ago and can't find anything wrong with it. Can you look into this and see why it won't select the Pickins, Alabama location for me? Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 15:28, 9 July 2010 (EDT)
Sorry, I should have included it. Pam
I'm working on my husband's family -- I'll be glad when I get all these people keyed in and the census in so I can work on the fun stuff -- the stories and all the other stuff! [add comment] [edit] jelle [13 July 2010]Would your unknown Jelle be from Norway?--Helge76 01:36, 12 July 2010 (EDT)
I don't have any ancestors from the Netherlands. All mine are from Norway.--Helge76 01:47, 13 July 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] thank you for your welcome [2 August 2010]Hi Jennifer, thank you for your warm welcome. In the Beiboer gedcom I made the changes you requested. I also wrote a short profile on my "dashboard" to introduce myself. However the Beiboer family "contains" (is that correct English?) 1000 people and my complete database contains 10000 relatives. Because I couldn't upload more then 5000 people I selected this family. Is there a possibility to upload more? At the other hand I can divide my database in 2 parts: my own(father/mother and related familees and my wives family (father/mother,etc.)Is that a possibility? by the way your Dutch is excellent! (better then my English) groetjes Henk--Smidtman 14:57, 2 August 2010 (EDT) Hallo Henk, your English is very good! I'm glad to hear that my limited Dutch was correct :-) I cannot yet hold a conversation, but hopefully during my upcoming trip to NL, I will learn a few more words! I completed one more step on your gedcom - that is "updating" the 11 family matches. This involves clicking a little box next to each item that you would like to upload. When you think about uploading a large gedcom in the future, remember that this updating step could be time-consuming. There were only 11 now, so that was no problem. Your gedcom is now importing. A few notes on your 11 families that matched the Ferwerderadeel and Leeuwarderadeel Project:
The limit for each gedcom on WeRelate is 5000 people. I would highly suggest that you work with WeRelate for a while before considering such a large upload. This site can often be a challenge to learn. You could begin by working with the Beiboer pages - fix red-links, add sources, add photos, etc. When you do decide to upload the 10,000 file - you could break it into 2 files as you described. You could also break it into 4 by choosing your parents and your wife's parents instead. It will all depend upon how much overlap your families have. If your line and your wife's intersect somewhere, you will have to merge them during the Gedcom upload process. We have two Dutch pages you may be interested in: WeRelate talk:Forum (Nederlands) and Portal:Netherlands (Nederland). They are not too active yet, but are watched by a couple of Dutch users. Feel free to post a message here on my talk page, on the Dutch forum or our general support page if you have any questions. Groetjes, Jennifer--Jennifer (JBS66) 18:16, 2 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] /* Henry Knott and Tena Beiboer */ [5 August 2010]Hi Jennifer, thank you for your research, the Ellis Islands records are familiair to me, I found them myself sometime ago. I am very happy with the graveyard records, the gave me details I didn.t know. In the mean I downloaded a new gedcom file about the Knott family. I'm still working on it, so in the near future there will be an update and I'm studying on how "we relate" works. My own "database" is build on different familees, so it could be an idea to download an gedcom for each family, and I could start with my Frisian "relatives" (Roorda, Bergsma, Plantinga, Smynia, Boelens) I saw the changes you made and I will try to make the same changes in my database. I work with 2 genealogy programs Aldfaer (which is Frisian!) and Legacy and I will try to find out which of them give the best results. I also want to bring under your attention a website http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr/tng/index.php The maker lives in Seoul, South Korea, but he is Dutch, and born near were I live, you can also find my data in this database and I think his way of research in someway matches the we relate way. Anyway I will continue reading, thinking and learning about we relate. GReetings from GRoningen--Smidtman 16:21, 5 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] /* Henry Knott and Tena Beiboer */ [9 August 2010]Hi Jennifer, on the website findagrave, which you send me, I found some Knotts and 2 of the these distant cousins I located threw Facebook!! This weekend I mailed 1 of them and I had a ( very positive) response within one day. Thank you very, very much for this tip!!! Henk--henk 13:45, 9 August 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Unknown places [12 August 2010]Hi Jennefer I have a few people in my gedcom which were fisherman and died/drowned on the high sea. I can't attache these to any place at all. Any advise? Klaas--Ekjansen 07:59, 12 August 2010 (EDT) Hello Klaas, In those types of cases, you would add details to the description field, instead of the place field. The place field links to a page here on WeRelate. Since this would not be a place per se, you would simply write a description into the description field. If you want to edit these places during gedcom upload, you can right click on the place name, and choose What references this place. That will bring you to the person page that contains the place. Then from the person page, you can click on edit to move the "place" to the description field. --Jennifer (JBS66) 16:17, 12 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Schregardus gedcom [15 August 2010]Hi Jennifer I have corrected the Place-Fields stating also Towns/Counties/States/Provinces and Countries. I do hesitate just to place my Schregardus-gedcom for upload, not wanting to give you once again a huge job to bend all data in the correct form. What do you advise? --Ekjansen 17:00, 15 August 2010 (EDT) Hello Klaas, I am so glad that I didn't scare you away with all of those "your page has changed" emails over the last few days! By the way, if you wish to turn those email notifications off, just ask me - there is a way to do that. I would suggest you upload your gedcom! I can tell that you have some well researched data, and you've been very kind in responding to my questions on talk pages. The changes I've made were only to the pages that connected to the Ferwerderadeel and Leeuwarderadeel Project. So, that means that your gedcom added some very nice data to that. I want to add that the project is a work-in-progress. I am currently working to import the last big gedcom, and I've been working on that for a few months now. There are also a significant number of duplicate pages that User:Leo Bijl and I are merging. I know this final gedcom of mine has more people that will connect to your research. You will find the process of uploading your gedcom a bit easier in regards to places - they should match up well automatically since you've corrected your file. You will have quite a few family matches, however. As I mentioned before, if you see that a family name is in red, with the words "not found" underneath - then stop matching and send me a note. I don't anticipate any problems with this, since you deleted your other tree days ago. I work full time, so there may be a few hours delay from when you import your gedcom until I can bring it into the system fully. I will leave a note for the other admins though - as I'd like to look it over personally since I'm familiar with Dutch genealogy. Don't hesitate to post if you have any questions. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:04, 15 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Edit [18 August 2010]Thanks so Much! Pam--Txbluebell6 21:41, 17 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] de forgotten frisians [22 August 2010]have you ever seen this website?: http://www.dedeensefriezen.nl/--henk 07:19, 22 August 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Sawyer Family of Elliotsville [27 August 2010]Hi, I've been working on a project to go through all the Maine-related sources, de-duping and adding repositories. I'll look at the Sawyer family of Elliotsville and resolve the dupes...--Brenda (kennebec1) 11:41, 27 August 2010 (EDT) Wait, there now appears to be only one source page; I think I already did this... On the other hand, I think that there probably needs to be a second source page created for the 3rd and greatly revised edition. I'll ponder this and add a new (or improve the current) source page when I get to the S's (or maybe sooner...). Was there something else you thought should be done?--Brenda (kennebec1) 11:47, 27 August 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] 1870 Census for Lamar County, Alabama [3 September 2010]Jenifer, I added an 1870 Census for Lamar County this morning. The thing is, this is for 'Steene, Sanford, Alabama'. Sanford County existed from Oct 1868 to 1877, changed to Lamar county in 1877, so it is not in your database. I did not know how to note this. Thought I better mention it. Thanks, Pam--Txbluebell6 13:01, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Houle [6 September 2010]Have seen your cont. on werelate and was wondering were the connection is to th Houde/Houle line, for me it has been also a bit frustrating that ther has been so little online for French Canadian familes. For myself I am 100% French Canadian. Father was Edouard or Edward Houle and mother was Lillian Courtois. Both deceased now but wonderful people. Ray Houle rayhoule@hotmail.com--Ray 23:25, 5 September 2010 (EDT) Hello Ray, the connection is through my husband's G-G-G Grandmother, her pedigree chart can be seen here. I worked a lot with Source:Genealogy of the French in North America. I found it to be a good source of information. There are also the Quebec Catholic Parish Records 1621-1900 available free online here. They are not indexed, but using the previous source as a guide, one could find the original record. On another subject... I see that we both have an error on Person:Louis Houde (22). According to Genealogy of the French in North America, there were 2 separate Louis' - one married Marie Lemay and the second married Anne Ursule Buisson. I likely won't have time to fix this for a few weeks. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:44, 6 September 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] middle names [28 September 2010]G'day Jennifer, Thanks for the heads up. I think I'm starting to get it together. I'll rename to fit the site's conventions, and I'll try [with certian individuals that used their middle names as often as their given names(such as Arthur Middleton MONKHOUSE)] to use the alternate names thingy. It's a pity in some respects that the second name isn't incorporated into the naming convention. My family on this side used it alot. Again, thanks... J. Arthur Monkhouse--Monkhouse 12:31, 28 September 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Ahnentafel [2 October 2010]Jennifer I just copied the source of your Ahnentafel Swart and edited my own Ahnentafel. Is this allowed? Otherwise I just delete this user-page. When ok how do I block editing? --Klaas (Ekjansen) 03:47, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Sorry, JB! [4 October 2010]Sorry for all the mopping up you had to do after me, I'll be careful of what I places I create from now on (I disagree with the hospital part, but I'll play by the rules). That was really cool what you did with the cemeteries, I really appreciate it! I will ise these as an example, from now on! Rob (FNG)--Kmrob 09:57, 4 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Hello [4 October 2010]I was suprised to see you are interested in Sake Jans Feenstra. If you like i have the merriage acte from Sake Jans Feenstra and a little picture from "Aafke-Sijbrens-van-der-Wal" Kind Regards Nico de Bock Om the web "de Bock " genealogy: http://www.genealogieonline.nl/genealogie-de-bock/I78.php--Bock 12:55, 4 October 2010 (EDT)
Is it possible to give me you'r e-mail adres? Me is nidbck@yahoo.com--Bock 16:28, 4 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Interest in Schuffert/Bacco line [6 October 2010]I just found WERELATE, and found you as a watcher on the Schuffert and Bacco family names. I am interested to know if you have a connection to either of these. They are my great grandparents and i would enjoy any information I can get on either of them. Michael Schuffert (III)--Schuffert 18:39, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Lamar County, Al 1880 Census [6 October 2010]Jenifer, This census Title does not conform to the title form of the other census we have and needs to be fixed. I was not sure how to fix it. Pam--Txbluebell6 22:02, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] 1870 Tishomingo Census [11 October 2010]Hi Jenifer, Is this another Census that needs to be renamed and edited? I could not tell if this is a book or online one? Source:Tishomingo, Mississippi, United States. 1870 Federal Census of Tishomingo County, Mississippi Thanks, --Txbluebell6 13:53, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Common roots in Oudwoude/Westergeest [18 October 2010]Jennifer, your husband and I do have common roots. My de Vries-tree shows quite a few people which are also in the Swart-ancestry. Now you can find pedigree-lines going back to the old Frisian gentry. Lutske Johannes is the first link for the trip in earlier times. You may continue with Anna Baama and so on. --Klaas (Ekjansen) 11:23, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Van der Leij Corrections [18 October 2010]Hi Jennifer. I am so glad somebody is watching these pages. As I am new at this, I know I am likely to make mistakes. The entry I made for Sijbren van der Leij and Thelma Forssman should only have one husband. They were my parents-in-law, married for over 60 years. My father-in-law, Sijbren Rienk (married to Thelma Forssman) was the grandson of Sijbren Rienk van der Leij married to Tjitske Iest. According to my father-in-law, his father, Rienk Sijbren, had a brother, Piet for whom I have a photo. Piet first married Mary van Schalkwyk and later, Annie du Plessis. They had a sister Sjouk (or Sjouke sp?) who remained in the Netherlands. We were not aware of the other names on the list you sent me. This Rienk van der Leij was doing his doctorate and was selected to play ice hockey for his country +- 1902 and when he went to excuse himself from the university to play a match in Switzwerland, the professor told him that if he did that, he would be failed. Needless to say, he did his duty to country, played the match, was not allowed to graduate and this was the reason he came out to South Africa. He became a teacher, and later headmaster of a school in Vrede in the Free State. I presume your entry for Rienk and Pieter Sijbren are these two. I am just not sure of the other children as we only ever heard of Tante Sjouk.I will see if anyone else of the cousins have any more information or dates to help. I am hoping to get the family tree correct - there is another Rienk Sijbren, my husband, and a Sybren Rienk, my son. Kind regards Jenny van der Leij--Jvdleij 08:35, 17 October 2010 (EDT) Thank you for your reply Jenny. I have been working on a project to document the inhabitants of Leeuwarderadeel and Ferwerderadeel, Friesland, and your family ties into this. I think I've figured out who everybody is now, and created Person and Family pages for them. One thing to keep in mind, people who are still living are not allowed to be entered into WeRelate. So, if Thelma Forssman is still living, we'll need to remove her name from the database. I finally found Sjoukje! It certainly made sense that they would have a child by that name, especially a first born girl, as that was Tjitske's mother's name. I also added a link to her birth certificate. There is likely an error in the index of the archive, as they have Tjitske's surname as Test, so I've alerted them to this. Here is a pedigree chart for Sijbren (your father-in-law). Let me know if you need any help adding text or photos to any pages, or if I've made any mistakes. In order to be notified of changes to the Person and Family pages I've created, you'll need to choose Watch from the left menu for each of them. Sincerely, --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:39, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Huwelijken Oostdongeradeel [19 October 2010]Jennifer, now when the original 'Huwelijksakten' and others from Friesland are available on FamilySearch, I started to enter the marriages of Oostdongeradeel as from 1811. I do have a lot of family thereabout. From your experience with the projekt Ferwerderadeel-Leeuwarderadeel, I would be very thankful to get some advises how to do the job the best way. I do have 1811-1817 already and just will go on. --Klaas (Ekjansen) 04:46, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
Originally IJ is II(double I) like double aa, ee, uu, oo, The Taalunie, dictates that ij is just a combination of 2 letters. But in capitals it should 1 letter, so I think your suggestion is correct (but who am I) so van der Ley should be van der Leij, but IJzenbrandt should Yzenbrandt. The Dutch alfabet has 26 letters, and the 25th is Y and not IJ--henk 07:46, 19 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Van der Leij updates [18 October 2010]Hi Jennifer. You are a star! I have been fishing for information from the cousins but I seem to know more than they do. My father-in-law was a very bright, lucid man up until his death and he made a tree for me. He knew that there was a Jan who started this ball rolling. I have an amazing collection of photos - heaven only knows who they were - some definitely Iest and the rest van der Leij. I traced the info that you have some time ago and also found a record of a lease agreement in 1913 for a piece of land at Oude Leije for Tjitske Iest of Arnhem, widow of Sijbren Rienks van der Leij. Our Great Grandfather, Rienk, came to SA from Arnhem, that the family could tell me. My father-in-law also told told me that Sijbren Rienks (1841) had a sister Lolk who remaied a spinster, a sister Bot married to a Fockema (Vockema sp?) - this is on the website tree, a brother Johannes who remained a batchelor, and another brother who was a professor of zoology and who had two children, Rienk and Midge. My mother-in-law, Thelma nee Forssman died in August 2001. I musts have forgotten to put that date in, or did not make a page for her. I will certaily get round to adding faces to the family names as soon as I sort the photos into a logical sequence. I will also add more children to Rienk and Margaretha van der Leij - they had 4 who have all died. Thank you so much for your help. Kind regards Jenny--Jvdleij 05:57, 18 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Jan de Jager & Maaike Rinzes Beer [19 October 2010]Hello Jennifer , My name is Aafke de Jager ( Raftery) i am in Australia, my side of the tree is de jager , wondering if you had any more information or can i help?--Aafke 01:45, 19 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Gallery images [22 October 2010]Thank you Jennifer. I missed the (/) alltogether. I tried brackets([[]]) and frames and everything I could think of. and ofcourse nothing worked. Need better glassed I guess. Jim--Tarbet 12:04, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Unable to communicate with gedcom review program. Please refresh your browser window. [25 okt 2010]Next step: Review your GEDCOM [25 October 2010] Now that you have uploaded JacobSCHELTEMA Franeker.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.
Unable to communicate with gedcom review program. Please refresh your browser window. What can I do now, I did all the persons and warnings and matches, but never was mentioned edited yes ! --Fred Bergman 11:33, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
I didnot yet, but I will. I saw nothing in the recent changes !--Fred Bergman 11:41, 25 October 2010 (EDT) My browser Explorer tells me there is no change possible because the gedcom is marked ready to import and looking at it I cann't see any change I did make !--Fred Bergman 11:45, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
I understand, Yes please, because I have to do 1 match and most of the places !--Fred Bergman 12:00, 25 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Managing and merging trees [27 okt 2010]Hi Jennifer ! I want to manage my trees. I made to many trees and want to merge some trees. How do I merge par example Stamboom Vlietman and Pedigree Vlietman-Bakker ? --Fred Bergman 03:16, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
Yes, indeed ! --Fred Bergman 06:41, 27 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] wrong !? [27 okt 2010] schalkwijk [27 okt 2010]Fred, deze linkt door naar de verkeerde provincie: (Schalkwijk -Utr/-N-Hlnd http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Bruinis_Lodder_(6) --Leo Bijl 10:38, 27 October 2010 (EDT) Neen Leo, Bruinis Lodder leeft in Utrecht, dus het Schalkwijk, dat valt onder de Gemeente Houten in Utrecht. Het andere Schalkwijk in Noord-Holland valt nu onder de gemeente Haarlem --Fred Bergman 10:44, 27 October 2010 (EDT) Ja dat bedoel ik ook: als je klikt op de plaats krijg je NH, ergo: ze hebben hier S. in Utrecht niet. aha, dan moeten we Jennifer onder vuur nemen !--Fred Bergman 10:51, 27 October 2010 (EDT) Valt mee, je moet deze hebben: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Place:Schalkwijk%2C_Netherlands http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Bruinis_Lodder_(6) has no link to Schalkwijk, Haarlem, NH,NLD but to Schalkwijk,Houten,UT,NLD. There are two places Schalkwijk in the Netherlands !--Fred Bergman 10:55, 27 October 2010 (EDT) Going to onder vuur nemen me for this are you... You created a place today for Place:Schalkwijk (haarlem), Noord-Holland, Netherlands. This does not follow WR conventions, so I redirected it to Place:Schalkwijk, Noord-Holland, Netherlands. However, there does exist a redirect (created back in 2007...) that directs Place:Schalkwijk, Netherlands to Place:Schalkwijk, Utrecht, Netherlands. Since there are two towns named Schalkwijk in the Netherlands, and since your gedcom probably did not specify the province... the gedcom upload software chose one for you. Now, I am nieuwsgierig... the Person:Bruinis Lodder (6) page says Schalkwijk,UT,NL - click on the link and it goes to Place:Schalkwijk, Utrecht, Netherlands. According to Genlias he died in Utrecht. Where is the page with the problem then? --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:10, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
Now comes the cat out of the sack: my gedcom revieuw for the places was wrong, I choosed the wrong Schalkwijk !!! ai aia ai ........--Fred Bergman 11:38, 27 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Speedy Delete Deletion [27 October 2010]Beth, oops, I didn't mean to delete the "Speedy Delete" Template, only to delete a specific person.... I've restored it back to its original version... Thanks and best regards, Jim:)--Delijim 12:15, 27 October 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Medieval [30 October 2010]My actual gedcom upload is marked as medieval; do you know which year starts here for medieval ? what is the difference in review for medieval and normal ? regards --Fred Bergman 12:33, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] problems with we relate [30 October 2010]Hi Jennifer You have left me this message this morning. regarding the request, I am unable to get any further then to upload the gedcom, got as far as matching the families and after that there is no connection to the werelate server, my internet is working fine and it is alo no firewall or other PC related issue, I have ruled this out already. I am basicly stuck after the upload. Annemarie Kalishoek Hello Annemarie, welcome to WeRelate. I see that you imported a gedcom yesterday. You have a few sets of duplicate people, in addition to 3 Family matches. The Family Matches screen displays instances when your gedcom matches pages that are already here on WeRelate. Each of these matches requires that you click on each piece of data that you would like to import. Regarding your duplicates, these are displayed on the Warning screen. WeRelate strives to have only 1 page per person. My suggestion is for you to merge these families in your home genealogy software first, then upload this file again. Lastly, I noticed that your places do not contain the country. WeRelate's place matching software works best if you can identify as much information as possible about a place. You can match the places the software missed during gedcom upload. Please let me know if you have any questions. --Jennifer (JBS66) 08:26, 30 October 2010 (EDT)--Kalishoek 09:40, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Sorry ! [3 nov 2010]I made a talk page template for the english users, but I see a bug but cannot solve the problem, see you what wrong is ? --Fred Bergman 10:27, 3 November 2010 (EDT)
just after edit and save, the problem disappeared !--Fred Bergman 12:34, 3 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] advise needed [4 November 2010]Hi Jenn, How can I bring up a persons page quickly to add a photograph, I have searched for Pieter luca but can not find him listed ? A I'm not sure if you meant to delete your previous message, so I'll answer both here :-) If Pieter Luca is in your current gedcom that is in review, the page has not yet been created for him. It isn't until after I send the file through to import that Person and Family pages are created. During review, some things happen right away, like changes to existing pages. Other times, the changes are stored and processed at import, like creating new pages. So... when this gedcom is imported you'd need to wait a few hours for the page to come up in a search. Regarding editing pages, it depends if you share a page with an active user. You can check this by going to their user page and clicking on contributions. I see that you left a note for G.h.vandoorn, and from his contribution list, he hasn't been active since 2007. In that case I would just make the corrections without consulting him. If the user is active, I usually leave a message on the Person/Family talk page in question. If I don't get a response in a few days, I make the edit. For small edits, like a birth date is off by a few days, or if I add a birth location, I will make the edit and write a brief note about what I did in the summary field right above the Save Page button. Adding primary sources whenever possible helps a lot too. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:54, 4 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] married names [4 November 2010]I can remove all the married names if you like, but in Holland we do use our husbands name, only for genealogical purpose on this site it does not have to be there I remove them A--Kalishoek 07:54, 4 November 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Advise please (again lol) [4 November 2010]Hi Jenn I have a lot of snippets and bits not to lose them i have created a talk page, but what can I ideally do with them ? They are all about the Kalishoek family but not for one particular person Any advise ? A--Kalishoek 10:32, 4 November 2010 (EDT) You can create User pages to house various notes. These are subpages of your main User page. The talk page you created will need to be moved to a user page, since it's now a talk page of an empty family (I left instructions about that here). I also create a Surname:Kalishoek page. If you have general information relating to this surname, its origin, countries it's found in, etc you can add that here. There are examples of Surname pages here. If you have text that is specific to a family or person, you can add it to their page. For example, it looks like your Gegevens van Cornelis Lucas Kalishoek is about one person - you could add that text to their Person page. --Jennifer (JBS66) 10:43, 4 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] doing something wrong again :) [4 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, Could you please help me remove 2 user pages that should not be there, I have tried but it does not work the one with snippets needs to be removed and the empty one too Created a profile user page that I would like to keep (it says profile) Thank you Annemarie--Kalishoek 17:45, 4 November 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Perfect [4 November 2010]Thank you for removing the user-pages, looks better :)--Kalishoek 17:56, 4 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Problem [5 November 2010]Hi Jennifer I am currently reviewing the "De Koning' file Two people can not be reviewed, not in the people tab and not in the family tab I have put them on exclude now but when I select them they do nor show up on the bottom pane in both the person and family section Gabriel Gijzen en Gijzen can not be reviewed or eddited All others work fine, refreshed the page, shut pc down, went back to it later, this all did not help I need to remove the codes and fix the townnames Can you have a look at this please? A--Kalishoek 14:02, 5 November 2010 (EDT) Annemarie, this is strange - thanks for bringing it to my attention. I can't view either of those people using Firefox or Internet Explorer. My guess is that it's a problem with how WR's gedcom software rendered the page. I want to bring this Dallan's attention (he is the creator of this site). That means it might take a bit more time to import this gedcom for you. --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:10, 5 November 2010 (EDT) Hi Jennifer My thoughts too, checked everything and there are no visible differences between their data and others There is no rush I have excluded them for now Thanks again Annemarie--Kalishoek 16:06, 5 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Gijzen files [5 November 2010]Hi Jennifer Just checked the original gedcom again and noticed that one of the persons first name was not taken over during the import , Johannes Gijzen en his wife does not appear at all Maria Elisabeth Duchenne Noticed a comma placed instead of his first name Gabriel Gijzen is there not sure if his wife Anna Elisbeth Clement is there as I can not check it now Could it be the comma or the name Gijzen that is not accepted by the system ? Maybe you can delete them all together and I will add them manually after ? A--Kalishoek 16:21, 5 November 2010 (EDT)
Hi, thanks for solving this riddle, I will change the people manually, no problem--Kalishoek 18:14, 5 November 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Spoeltman tree [9 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, Any problems with the Spoeltman tree? Annemarie--Kalishoek 16:02, 9 November 2010 (EST)
Hi Jennifer, haha, not to worry at all, just happy there is no problem with the Spoeltman file. There is no rush A --Kalishoek 16:14, 9 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] 23a.ged Imported Successfully [9 November 2010]The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:
For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.
[add comment] [edit] How do I do that again [10 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, I think you told me before but i forgot and dont want to create a mess again, how do i create a page for the Kalishoek name in order to put up general information and snippets about that family only ? Thanks again Annemarie --Kalishoek 08:12, 10 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Some starnge data to come [10 November 2010]hi Jennifer Before I am going to send in the Senn van Basel tree for import sometime this evening i have to let you know beforehand that there are some odd but true facts Marrages with same last name- they married cousins 2 mariages were the partners were only 12 years old This all took place in Nederlands Indie there are some more odd things that I wont put in the tree haha--Kalishoek 10:58, 10 November 2010 (EST)
There were some strange things going on in the old days, especially in families who had money i believe, they kept it in the family :)The marriage of the 12 year old were arranged marriages and alllowed in Indonesia at the time, so glad there are laws against that now , who knows I would have been married out too at age 12 is the laws were not there now , Help !!!--Kalishoek 11:19, 10 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Friezen uit vroeger eeuwen [13 November 2010]Jennifer: I added a source, Hessel de Walle, Friezen uit vroeger eeuwen. This book brings a lot on over 100 pages about all kinds of inscriptions. Could you check if I made this source correctly?--Klaas (Ekjansen) 06:24, 13 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Surnames and alt names [16 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, there is a bug between my gedcoms and the way these are exposed. The surname of my persons is exposed as the last alt name and the last alt name is exposed as surname, so all my persons with alt names are exposed wrong on WeRelate ! --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 02:44, 15 November 2010 (EST)
In the actual gedcom Nollet you are reviewing, I allready edited the pages I could see. It is obvious that I can only see that persons who has on one line more alt.names. As soon as you see a person with more alt names than you are sure that that are all altnames and that the last alt name (not direct visable in the gedcom review persons) is the right surname. Has a person a surname and 1 alt surname then I can't see it direct. Sometimes it is a pointer when you see minor letters, because my surnames of relatives all have capitals.--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 05:20, 15 November 2010 (EST)
okay! --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 05:27, 15 November 2010 (EST) Person:Nicolas Noulet (I41450 gedcom) I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem yet. One common factor in all your examples is that you matched these pages to existing pages already in WR. When you match a page, you don't have an opportunity to change the existing page title from the review screen. Pages can only be renamed from within the main WR site (not via the gedcom upload process). When I look on the People Tab in review, I see Joseph Querreboom (for example). The Preferred Name you have for him is: Joseph Querreboom. The alt names are QUERBOOM and KWERREBOOM. The title of the page will come from the Preferred Name, so it will be titled Person:Joseph Querreboom (#). However, you matched him to a page that exists already: Person:Joseph Querreboom (1). I don't see anywhere that the title of the page will include any of the alt names (QUERBOOM or KWERREBOOM). I returned the file to user review. If you can, perhaps, clarify using Joseph as an example that may help. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:22, 15 November 2010 (EST)
Is there a misunderstanding ? Are you waiting for my small gedcom and am I waiting until 14 nov 2010 11:47 Admin review: 87 warnings; 1445 people; initial launch Parenteel Jacques-NOLLET-all DESC.ged [393.566 bytes] Bergsmit (Overleg | bijdragen) reviewer: JBS66 (Overleg | bijdragen) is imported succesfully ?--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 03:41, 16 November 2010 (EST) There is no misunderstanding. Yesterday the gedcom uploader was "stuck" and Dallan did not start it again until later last night. I do want to bring up a few concerns, however. I know that your genealogy site is not very friendly in allowing you to edit your place names. I also know that you work very hard to link them to the correct WR page, and I appreciate that. I would like to talk about another option. You see, WR is a communal working space, and I need to keep that in mind when I look at incoming files. I would also like to talk about some of the dates in your file, like (+/- 1780) and (=01-11-1907). We have a draft Help:Date Conventions page that outlines some ideas. Are you open to a dialog about this? --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:57, 16 November 2010 (EST)
Since you upload relatively small files, you have an opportunity to put your data into a more standard format. You do this when you move the alt. names to their own lines. I would also like to see you begin to standardize your places and dates as well. I think there are a few ways to accomplish this. With the dates, it may be easier to edit these while in gedcom review. Here you can look at the Person Tab and see the birth and death dates - and notice quickly which ones might need editing. Regarding places - such as Roncq, 59 (F) or Houplin, 59263 (F) or (B) - think again that WR is different from GeneaNet or RootsWeb. We have the ability to work on pages together, with people from different countries. You may know what Houplin 59263 is - but others may not. I know that you link to the WR pages, but what appears to people on your page is still Houplin 59263... Is your final goal to import your entire database to WR? Is there a possibility of importing that large file to a software (maybe Aldfaer?) where you can edit all of the places more efficiently? I would not necessarily suggest using PAF, as I've had some problems with how it handles alt names. You could also standardize each page during gedcom upload or upload files less often and standardize them before uploading another. I'm just putting ideas on the table... --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:25, 16 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] De Koning tree , gone ? [23 November 2010]Hi Jennifer Hope you can help just wanted to search for someone in my De Koning tree, but all the information is gone. Is that tree deleted by someone maybe? it was up and running last week Annemarie--Kalishoek 06:45, 15 November 2010 (EST) The tree is still there, but the contents are not appearing in the search generated from the link on your userpage. From your userpage, if you click on View FTE next to De Koning family, you'll be able to see the contents another way (though searches are much easier, so we'll figure this problem out!) What happens when you go to Family:Anthonius De Koning and Maria De Leeuw (1) and click on trees? Is there a box with a checkmark in it? What is the exact title of the tree that is checked? --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:02, 15 November 2010 (EST) box is checked and has this title : de koning family--Kalishoek 07:18, 15 November 2010 (EST) Found out if I do the same search but remove the keywords that are put there automaticly (+Tree:"Kalishoek/De Koning family ") the system works fine and all records are there then--Kalishoek 07:22, 15 November 2010 (EST) My theory on this is that you have extra spaces at the end of the tree's name "De Koning Family ", and that may be causing the search to not function properly. When you click on "View" for the other trees on your userpage, those searches do work. I'll bring this to Dallan's attention. There is a way to rename a tree, but there used to be a bug with that, so let me check with Dallan first to see if this is the best solution. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:33, 15 November 2010 (EST) ok thank you, there is no rush as I found a way around it, but about that extra space, it was working fine over the weekend and before that with the same name (???)--Kalishoek 07:41, 15 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Renaming pages [15 November 2010]I am totally lost. I just updated the aunts & uncles that have passed away. I'm not sure what you are asking me to do.--Lilfox 14:45, 15 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Automatic preparing surname pages and activating surname category [16 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, I made a system for categorizing and opening surname pages for Rodovid and now I am trying to convert that system for the dutch surnames on WeRelate {{CatSurnameStartNL}}
By the way, why don't use WeRelate the most actual software, is that a matter of money or of time that is necessary to work under new circumstances?--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 15:17, 15 November 2010 (EST) The only person who would be able to approve and program a bot is Dallan. He had spoken about doing something similar to what you are trying for all of the surname categories, but that hasn't happened yet. Regarding the software, Dallan has spoken about upgrading the software within the next year. It's my understanding that this will require quite a bit of time to accomplish. --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:25, 15 November 2010 (EST)
What is the usual way to activate the surname categories ? Is that a task of an administrator and so yes, happens that once a month or other frequency ? or are the users supposed to do that on WeRelate and when they don't, an admin will do that ?--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 11:25, 16 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Is your final goal to import your entire database to WR? [16 nov 2010]I have 2 databases, together now over 600,000 persons. The largest database is to big to download in one time. On this moment I try to download to WeRelate parts of the smallest one. This moment is WeRelate for me the best opportunity, however I miss here an very important tool, which I do have on Geneaweb and the show of ancestors and descendants I have on Rodovid. As soon there is coming a wiki that is better than WeRelate I go there !--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 07:45, 16 November 2010 (EST)
The Nollet gedcom file can in my opinion now uploaded succesfully. Afterwards I can always improve someting --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 09:15, 16 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] alt names and nickname bugs [17 nov 2010]Hi Jennifer To the grandchildren. Jan van LANGEVELD, birth before 1674, died. Married to Adriana Ariaantje de BLOIJS, •Maria LANGEVELT, birth in 1690, baptism 27 March 1690, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD, died 15 August 1720, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD (age at death: 30 years old). Married 28 April 1715, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD, to Crijn van REMMERSWAAL, baptism 19 February 1689, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD, died about 10 November 1770, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD (age at death: possibly 81 years old), ◦Adriana Ariaentje van REMMERSWAAL, birth in 1717, baptism, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD, died. ◦Bartholomeus van REMMERSWAAL, birth in 1718, baptism 18 March 1718, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD, died before 24 May 1719. ◦Bart van REMMERSWAAL, baptism 24 May 1719, Wassenaar,ZH,NLD. Descendants of Jan van LANGEVELD To the grandchildren. Jan van LANGEVELD /1674 & Adriana Ariaantje de BLOIJS 1. Maria LANGEVELT 1690-1720 &1715 Crijn van REMMERSWAAL 1689-ca 1770 1.1. Adriana Ariaentje van REMMERSWAAL 1717 1.2. Bartholomeus van REMMERSWAAL 1718-/1719 1.3. Bart van REMMERSWAAL 1719 --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 04:09, 17 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] GENEANET [17 nov 2010]This is exported from Geneanet, correct?
--Jennifer (JBS66) 04:46, 17 November 2010 (EST) --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 05:22, 17 November 2010 (EST) Fred, this appears to be a problem with GeneaNet's export and not with WeRelate's importing. I made a test gedcom and instead of importing to WR, I imported to my RootsMagic - the same problem happened. To use the above example person, the gedcom should look something like this: 1 NAME Anna/van Santvliet 2 GIVN Anna 2 SURN van Santvliet 1 NAME /(Keijser)/ 2 SURN (Keijser) 1 NAME /Zandvliet/ 2 SURN Zandvliet Instead, the gedcom produced by Geneanet looks like this: 1 NAME Anna/van Santvliet 2 SURN (Keijser),Zandvliet Essentially, the GeneaNet gedcom is saying her full name (NAME) is Anna van Santvliet, but her surname (SURN) is (Keijser),Zandvliet. This is wrong - but since your gedcom states this, WeRelate imports it this way. The gedcom should be saying: Her full name (NAME) is Anna van Santvliet, her given name (GIVN) is Anna, her surname (SURN) is van Santvliet, her alternate surname is (Keijser) and her other alternate surname is Zandvliet. This is a problem you'll need to bring up to GeneaNet tech support. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:21, 17 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] New category structure [19 December 2010]Dallan has spoken about changing the way WR uses categories, so I wouldn't spend too much time on them until that is decided. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:08, 16 November 2010 (EST)
Jennifer, is there a discussion about changing the way categories are used somewhere? Major changes or minor? If changes are in the future, I'd like to be able to comment. --Janiejac 20:55, 18 December 2010 (EST) Hm? oh?--Leo Bijl 22:59, 18 December 2010 (EST) This was in reference to WeRelate talk:Categories project. The discussion there about categories is almost a year old with no resolution to date. I thought it would be ill advised for Fred to spend too much time categorizing pages, if we still don't know how they will be organized in the future. --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:06, 19 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] something wrong on gedcom upload/review ? [5 December 2010]Now that you have uploaded Grietje- BREED -all ASC.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. Many persons are excluded and I cannot edit warnings, is there a new bug working ?--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 08:35, 18 November 2010 (EST)
I started to try to change the baptism from 19 tot 17 and discovered that moment that editing was impossible. I hoped that in future I was allowed tot upload small gedcoms with only duplicates to easy improve existing families and persons while merging, but I see that I can forget that ! Why does Dallan want this changes, the old system was pretty good !--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 09:10, 18 November 2010 (EST)
--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 09:27, 18 November 2010 (EST):::: I know that behaviour of some American people. I saw it on SharedTree, that now is a ShitTree with thousands of duplicate copies from a popular American Rootsite
How was a decision made for a 1750 cutoff without any discussion on Watercooler? There was lots of discussion about protecting quality of data, and various suggestions, but I could find no proposal to implement a 1750 cutoff date. Was the discussion there and then removed? Did I blink (ok, I wasn't watching carefully for a couple of months) and miss it? I'm all for data quality, and I understand why there have been many suggestions about limiting uploads, but if we're going to have a limit like this, then we need a process to get people onto the trusted users list. As somewhat of an expert in data quality, I will argue strenuously against forcing manual data entry for new records - manual data entry is the best way to introduce errors - both small ones like typos on dates and larger ones like skipping generations. All you have to do is compare the trees of many compilers to the sources they say they were using to see how true this is. I'm sure I'm not alone in having invested significant effort in my tree in a software package on my own computer, and not being prepared to spend an equivalent number of hours manually entering and rechecking data anywhere else. Not to mention that the software I use makes some tasks easier than WeRelate does. Frankly, when I hit the 1750 limit today, I was prepared to "take my toys and go home". Then I assumed it was an error, since the "to do" list mentions a 1450 cutoff date - one I could live with. So now I guess I just need to figure out how to get on the trusted list. I've also seen the comment that many pre-1750 people have been entered with nice bios and we don't want the data messed up. Fair enough - I agree in cases where the data is good quality, and we also obviously don't want yet more duplicates of those records. But any suggestion that WeRelate has even scratched the surface with pre-1750 people is laughable. There were approx 600,000,000 alive in the world in 1700 (not to mention the millions who died before then) and WeRelate has fewer than 2,000,000 individuals. WeRelate is supposedly still in beta (as per the home page), and is nowhere near close to a saturation point. If we want to protect "good quality" records - whether they are pre- or post-1750, we need a way to explicitly protect them from being updated during a merge (like the semi-protect already in place). That is very different from preventing the upload of brand new records. How to prevent duplicates will be an ongoing problem. Unfortunately, I don't think WeRelate is well-protected from manual entry of duplicates, either - the search needs some tuning before it is reliable in finding existing records (sorry, Dallan, I don't mean to criticize, but I have noticed some deficiencies in the search that I assumed would be addressed over time). I know that saying I might "take my toys and go home" seems very petty and I don't like being petty, but in reality, if I can't upload my GEDCOM of pre-1750 people, I won't be contributing - just like I decided about a different genealogy Wiki that did not plan to support GEDCOM at all. Over half of my (approx 6500) records are pre-1750, and from my experience so far, at least 2/3 of those are not yet in WeRelate. Not only am I not willing to put in the hours required, but I expect that forcing manual data entry will actually lower the data quality, so I see no incentive in investing in WeRelate under these terms. That said, I can easily see (and have spent hours fixing) the garbage in WeRelate resulting from indiscriminate uploading of GEDCOMS - so, back to the idea of a trusted user list. Let's figure out how to "certify" trusted users, and get that going. I was hoping to get my relatively high quality data into WeRelate early (as I assume it would be much less effort than if I am a late-comer to a mix of good and bad data). Can we "certify" a bunch of trusted users so that we can get as much good quality data in soon? --DataAnalyst 17:26, 4 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Trust importer [23 November 2010]Jennifer, I found on Solveigh's page a list of Trust importers (you are on this list) what do I have to do to become this qualification?--Klaas (Ekjansen) 05:49, 23 November 2010 (EST)
I recall it was one of the things Fred and I agreed upon as to Rodovid, if ever that should be opportune, which it probably never will. Problem then is, naturally: who decides what about whom? Further: it would preferebly need to be public, so you would need some criterium of any kind, like someone having made for example a thousand edits on hand; anything of the sort. Leo. Anyway: I vote in favour. --Leo Bijl 06:24, 23 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Ferdeel [23 November 2010]Jennifer, are you still adopting my orphan's? With the next gedcom dedicated to one gemeente or region or town I will select all parents and children to the selected persons in the group. That will diminish the orphan-question.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 07:50, 23 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Emigration - Immigration [26 November 2010]Jennifer: I just walk through the Landverhuizers (=emigrants) topic of Tresoar. I think it one of the good things to find in WeRelate the lines between the continents. To start with Ferwerderadeel makes it easier because you placed all marriages in WeRelate. I do hope it is not disturbing you that I add data to 'your' Ferwerderadeel folks.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 08:05, 26 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Lay-out problem [26 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, do you know why the layout of the same kind of pages is different ? --Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 13:06, 26 November 2010 (EST) Which part of the layout is different between the two? --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:08, 26 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Anu chances with uplaoding a new gedcom? [27 nov 2010]Hi Jennifer, Hope you are well, have not spoken for a while. I am almost ready to upload a new Gedcom, has anything changed since the last time I did this? For example you mentioned Dallan was working on the Gedom ID's to have them removed so that I do not have to this anymore and you mentioned the error messages and that we need to change this in our own files first, is there anything else i should no about? Have a nice day Annemarie --Kalishoek 16:44, 27 November 2010 (EST) Hello Annemarie, I am doing well - thank you! You are correct, you will no longer need to remove the UID's or RIN's, they are now automatically removed - Yeah! In fact, one of the changes is that users can no longer edit pages from within gedcom review. If there are minor edits, I can make those changes for you. There will be a warnings percentage on the first page now. If that is greater than 2%, you will not be able to match pages. If it's over 4%, you cannot import the gedcom. You can print out the items on the warning tab, fix them in your database, and reupload the gedcom. The way warnings are assigned is a work-in-progress. If we see that you receive a high percentage with items that are not really errors (like a 12 year old mother), then we can bring this to Dallan's attention. People born before 1750 are now excluded. Dallan has just recently developed a "trusted importers" list that moves this cut-off date to 1550. This list has not been fully implemented yet. Before you match too many pages - I can take a look at the file after you've uploaded it to make sure there are no obvious issues. Well, I think that is it... the screen layout hasn't changed so that's good! --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:04, 27 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] "trusted importers" list [27 nov 2010]Is that list to be seen anywhere or is the list hidden ?--Fred Bergman (User:Bergsmit) 17:16, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Hi Jen, Thanks, you just gave me a fright with the 1750 cut-off point as the Dutch but also the Irish trees can go back as far as 1600 or further, thankfully it is end 1500, i can live with that :) I am trying to get my data as solid as possible so hopefully 0% errors, but I might just let you have a look at it first just in case, it will take a few more days before I am happy enough with it for upload Annemarie --Kalishoek 17:25, 27 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Source Citations [28 November 2010]Hi Jenny, You probably noticed that I have a source citation for the marriage of Valentin Klontz to Barbara Brand. I would like to use the same source citation for their birth information as well, without having to create a new source citation. Is this possible? How do do this? t.--Tiger 15:46, 28 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] palma [29 November 2010]Jennifer, just by accident I found a connection (in Grand Rapids) between the Palma family and the Ludema family. I think there are too many steps to add, so I will complete the data as far as I can and than send the gedcom for upload. I've got the impression that the half of Friesland met again somewhere in the States.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 08:07, 29 November 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] poyntz tree [29 November 2010]Hi Jenn I have just send just a part of my new tree, as I have not tried the new system yet I thought it would be easier to start with just 20 people, it should be all right, I will be adding the others manually Annemarie--Kalishoek 08:36, 29 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Wont import [29 November 2010]Hi Jennifer, My file is ready to import but I recieved the message below, I only had one waring that Mary Anne Poyntz was over 50 years old when her son was born, which is a true fact she was 51 when James was born It will not let me inport, i have followed the normal routines, it has no duplicates either Your GEDCOM cannot be imported to WeRelate in its current form, either because it has too many warnings or it contains duplicates. Click on the Warnings tab, print the warnings, correct or remove the incorrect information in your desktop genealogy program, remove this GEDCOM, and upload a revised GEDCOM. --Kalishoek 08:57, 29 November 2010 (EST)
Hi Jennifer, thanks I will wait and see what Dallan says, so one none error is above 2% ? That is not fair haha --Kalishoek 09:09, 29 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Kramer Family [2 December 2010]Hello Jennifer, I have looked at the marriage certificates of both Carl Friedrich Kramer and also Theodor Friedrich Kramer. They are very faint so I am having trouble reading them. The one of Theodor I think has his parents noted on it. I am anxious to try to read that information. Is there any way I can get a more readable copy of this paperwork? I am not able to get any info on Theodors parents. As I told you, Frank had a stroke in March this year and his sight has been greatly affected. A better copy would be good foor him also as he may be able to translate it for me. Regards Pat Kramer--Fkramer 02:33, 2 December 2010 (EST) Hello Pat, On the pages with the marriage and birth certificates there is a source underneath in the References section on each page. You will see a link that says "browse images". Make note first of the text that says "Images X of Y". That link will bring you to FamilySearch where you can enter that number (X) into the box towards the top of the screen. Press enter, and you will be directed to the page with the certificate. You can then press the + key to zoom in. I do have more details on this family, including Theodor's parents. I can add them to WeRelate. If you press the Watch link that is on the left side of each Person and Family page that relates to Frank, you will receive notification when data is added. If you need some help with translations, this is a handy site: Trace Your Dutch Roots, as well as this page. If you are still stuck, perhaps one of the Dutch friends watching my talk page could lend a hand. Feel free to post if you have any questions at all! Sincerely, --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:09, 2 December 2010 (EST) p.s. do you have any clues on the parents of Aplonia Theodora Hilgers? --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:11, 2 December 2010 (EST) Hello Jennifer, I do have details of Aplonia Theodora Hilgers DOB 29/9/1912, parents Willem Jan Pieter Hilgers DOB 3/1/1889 and Alida Verheul 22/1/1884. The family of Aplonia is not a problem (sa far) I have lots of ancestors for her. Regards Pat--Fkramer 16:37, 2 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Removing RIN [3 December 2010]Jennifer, I see you are removing the RIN's. That's what I do to in case I find one. I do also remove the Y in the deathfield is this OK too?--Klaas (Ekjansen) 05:21, 3 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Kramer siblings [4 December 2010]Hi Jennifer, I seem to have come up against a brick wall with regards to Frank's father and his fathers siblings. He was Franciscus Kramer DOB 24/1/1917 in Amsterdam. He married 13/9/1939 and emigrated to Australia in 1955. Apparently Aplonia told a family member that her husband was from a large family!!!. Can you assist with this please. Regards Pat--Fkramer 01:03, 4 December 2010 (EST)
Hello, can this be the right one:? Kramer, F. heeft de reis gemaakt met het schip Fairsea, aangekomen in Australië op 10 oktober 1952, emigratiekaart in kaartenbak Sydney The National Archive has a database for emigrés, we cannot access the cards themselves however; that requires written consent from the individual, or proof of death (but anything will do, like a newspaper clipping etc.). There are over 40 Kramers, this is the only one with initial F. Good luck! Leo
--Leo Bijl 07:37, 4 December 2010 (EST)
Its easy, either direct http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/emigranten/nl/inleiding.asp, otherwise, if you forget, just main screen, search and that gets you to thematic databases.
Jennifer, Frank's parents are both deceased. Franciscus died 26/10/1971 and Aplonia died 1/10/1986 Once again. thank you for your assistance Regards Pat--Fkramer 15:53, 4 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Kramers family [5 December 2010]Jennifer, thank you so much for starting a page for Frank's parents. I have that his mum had 10 brothers and sisters, how do we get these other siblings added to the page. Also, Frank tells me that both of his grandfathers on mothers and fathers side were married twice. How do I find this information? Regards Pat--Fkramer 04:52, 5 December 2010 (EST) Jennifer I also tried the sites as suggested by Leo, they are both in Dutch and I couldn't find am English version--Fkramer 04:56, 5 December 2010 (EST) To add Aplonia's siblings, you can go here: Family:Willem Hilgers and Alida Verheul (1) and click on Edit. Underneath the Children section, you can click on Find/Add. There you can enter the name and date of birth for a person and press the Find/Add page button. Any of the pages I've created are able to be edited. You can add photos or text about the families/people. Unfortunately, the site that I found most of the information for Frank's family is being updated. I'll see what I can find out on additional spouses, but it may be limited until that site is back up. Regarding the sites recommended by Leo - they are excellent resources, but are only available in Dutch. You can put the link to the site into Google Translate - that will help you get the gist of a conversation. You can also leave queries in English - and you will most likely receive responses back in English as well. How did you make out with obtaining the Family Cards? --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:56, 5 December 2010 (EST)
Wanneer u zich (eenmalig) registreert kunt u een persoonlijk profiel maken met familienamen die u (onder)zoekt, kunt u zelf berichten plaatsen in (sub)fora en reageren op berichten van anderen. Registreren is gratis, 33.490 genealogen gingen u voor! Klick the bold and from there you can make an account. The forum has over 30.000 members from all over the Western world. Under the subforum Hulp you can post your requests and questions. Somebody will look into it or go to the archive personally. It always goes that way. They are very active people most of them. Should something come back in Dutch, just link it back here. Good luck. Leo
[add comment] [edit] Delete [6 December 2010]Hi Jenn Can't find the delete button, need to upload the peppard tree again but delete the one with the 2 errors. looked in the review section too but can not find it anywhere --Kalishoek 07:37, 6 December 2010 (EST)
Found it, in this case it was my own fault I was ment to put born before, before the date and I forgot. About the children born 9 months apart I do not know as they were born that way, maybe born too early or so I do not know. But if I come acros something that should not be errorred , yes I will speak up --Kalishoek 07:56, 6 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Dongeradeel records [7 December 2010]Jennifer, I did the 4-years-upload 1825-1828 and had over 1000 families to be matched. The 1829 upload there were 'only' 600 matching families, with a total of 60 marriage records because I do include parents, siblings and children. This is not just a simple job to enter all these data, but I will go on.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 15:20, 7 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Userboxes [9 December 2010]I like the idea of the admin userbox you've included at the top of your user page, Jennifer (and which I promptly stole . . .). I played around with those over at Wikipedia a couple of years ago, just for fun -- mine are at my userbox display page -- but it never occurred to me to incorporate them here. --MikeTalk 11:10, 9 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Thanks:) [10 December 2010]I noticed the change you made to the Admin box on my user page, looks much better, thanks:) I'm not very knowledgeable in the "code" area, so the assistance is appreciated... Best regards, Jim:)--Delijim 08:23, 10 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Terpstra Family Name [12 December 2010]Good morning. Searching "We Relate" this morning across your entry for the Terpstra family name. Klaas Klazes Terpstra and Iemkjen Uiltjes Plantinga are my 2nd great grandparents. Wonder if you can tell me how you fit into the family? This is me: Olav H. den Ouden Nicolaas den Ouden = Thecla Helena Kleinherenbrink Gerardus Johannes Kleinherenbrink = Ymkje van der Geest Kornelis Johannes van der Geest = Tjitske Klazes Terpsta Klaas Klazes Terpstra = Iemkjen Uiltjes Plantinga You may contact me directly at 2ulips at rogers dot com
[add comment] [edit] Douwe van der Meer & Sjuwke Kuiper(s) [14 December 2010]Jennifer, I think these 5 are all the same: I don't think you're trying to control my data - you are being helpful! I have a long duplicates list still (working my way down though)... These families didn't show up on the list, so thank you for letting me know. --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:43, 14 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Moi [14 dec 2010]Jennifer, Burgerlijke Stand is not a church records it is only Government.
[add comment] [edit] Source Frysk Kertiersteateboek [17 December 2010]Jennifer, I added a new source: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Source:Koopmans,_Melle._Frysk_Kertiersteateboek maybe you have a look, because in sources I am still not really professional.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 06:07, 17 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Gedcom Errors [19 December 2010]Jennifer, with the last gedcom I had over 2 % errors due to 2 real errors (died 867 instead of 1867 gives 6 errors for 1 person) and another wrong year just 1798 instead of 1789. But the rest of the errors were anabaptists, so they were christened at the age of 18 or later. That gives quite a few errors of parents having children before the age of 12 and so on. I have put fictive birthyears, which I don't like at all. But for the import it drops the error quote. In Friesland you find a lot of anabaptists/mennonites. So I did my job of today and stop this moment. --Klaas (Ekjansen) 16:52, 18 December 2010 (EST) Klaas, having to enter fictitious data is certainly not the optimal solution. I didn't get a chance to see your gedcom warnings before your reuploaded. It sounds to me that you have two issues with warnings:
Does this mean that you had to edit all the christening dates for people causing warnings, and then go back and edit again once it's uploaded? --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:43, 19 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] still more questions [21 December 2010]1. What is wrong and good? http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Hendrik_Hendriks_%281%29 --Lidewij 14:16, 19 December 2010 (EST)
2. http://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Place:Driel&limit=500&from=0 This also is done one-by-one? Mvg, Lidewij 04:46, 20 December 2010 (EST)
3. Jennifer how do I make the small googlemap's in Rodovid? --Lidewij 07:20, 21 December 2010 (EST)
<img border="0" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/api/staticmap?center=Brooklyn+Bridge,New+York,NY&zoom=14&size=512x512&maptype=roadmap&markers=color:blue|label:S|40.702147,-74.015794&markers=color:green|label:G|40.711614,-74.012318&markers=color:red|label:C|40.718217,-73.998284&sensor=false" alt="Points of Interest in Lower Manhattan" /> --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:36, 21 December 2010 (EST) It appears that the code above, <img.... does not work on R either. --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:37, 21 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Migration Netherlands - United States [22 December 2010]Jennifer, I would like to make a list of all surnames which I watch, of Dutch people that immigrated to the United States. Or in general all familynames of Dutch persons in WeRealte who settled in the US. That could be helpful to find connections on both sides of the big pond. But how can I make this list, not only by copy paste I hope.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 05:08, 22 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Rotterdam Civil Registry [24 December 2010]Hi Jenny, Sorry, but I've encountered another problem. I'm trying to source my great-great-grandmother, Adriana Uiterlinden's birth in 1885. She was born in Rotterdam and therefore her birth was recorded in the civil registry. I thought that Dutch for civil registry was something like: "Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands. Registers van de Burgerlijke Stand." I can't seem find any source for Rotterdam that's similar. The closest I can find are the Notariële Akten. Anyways, could you check to see if I'm just missing the Rotterdam Civil Registry please? If not, then I can create a source for it. Merry Christmas! T.--Tiger 03:12, 24 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] New WeRelate problem? [26 December 2010]Hello again. I returned to some pages done in the old version to find some strange new results. The old way of citeing sources does strange things in adding carriage returns and changing fonts even. I see Sources are now references, and tried changing Sx to Rx without impact. Can you please help? Buddy (B.holmes) RE:
[add comment] [edit] Joseph Hedger and Sarah Stevenson MarriageJoseph was nearly 24 when he married Sarah Stevenson at the Burlington Monthly Meeting of FriendsS3. Their first declaration of marriage was given on 4 Jun 1742 S3. Their second declaration of intention to marry was given on 7 Jun 1742S3. JOSEPH HEDGER and SARAH STEPHENSONS1,S3 were married 10 JUN 1741/1742 at Burlington Meeting House in Woodbridge, Colonial New Jersey. SARAH STEPHENSONR3, daughter of ELNATHAN STEPHENSON and SARAH CORNELL, was born on 20 November 1721 in Burlington, Colonial New Jersey, AmericaS1. She died about 1772 at the age of 51 in Culpepper County, Virginia ColonyS3.--B.holmes 14:57, 26 December 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] parent categories [27 December 2010]Hi, Would you please tell me what these Parent Category pages are supposed to contain which probably will explain why you are adding them? Also why do they appear before "F" for family on the Category:xxx surname page. Thanks. --Susan Irish 23:14, 26 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] ganzediek [27 December 2010]Hoi, I saw that you use Ganzediek as an alternate name for Ganzedijk, but that is just regional lanquage, and I'm not sure if you want to "pollute" werelate with these. The frisian language is an official language, Gronings is not. The dialect we originally speak is a combination of Dutch, Ost-Frisian (German) and Frisian (close to the border of Friesland) My wife and I we speak common dutch, (she isn'"t a groninger, she can uderstand it however, my children can't even understand gronings anymore.
[add comment] [edit] [29 December 2010]do you know this website?: http://stamboom.pc1000.nl/--henk 10:11, 29 December 2010 (EST)
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