User talk:BobC/Archive 2010

Pencader Cemetery Page (x-ref to response) [17 January 2010]

Bob - I have responded on my talk page → User_talk:Ceyockey#Pencader_Cemetery_Page_.5B12_January_2010.5D. --ceyockey 19:34, 16 January 2010 (EST)

Got it, thanks. Responded there. --BobC 21:26, 16 January 2010 (EST)

Bob, I can see now where the confusion might come in. The pages that I have created with interment information appear to be among the only such stand-alone pages in WeRelate. The vast majority of pages related to interments are Source pages, which refer to information outside of WeRelate; this highlights the notion that WeRelate might not be a commonly used place for original research (cemetery transcription) to be posted. Perhaps a category under Category:Special Projects entitled Category:Cemetery transcriptions could be created with a description indicating that this is where original interment data should be categorized to. A cross-reference from Category:Cemetery records would be in order as well. Thoughts? --ceyockey 19:47, 16 January 2010 (EST)

I hadn't noticed before you brought it up, but you are right in saying that there are many cemeteries (exactly 121) listed as source pages in the Category:Cemetery records page, (most probably, as you say, referring users to outside links). The first six or seven I looked at (through the letter "L") seem to be correctly identified as Source Pages since they refer to resouces at outside links. A couple of them could be Repositories, as they seem to meet the definition of an on-line repository.

You're correct in saying that WeRelate is not yet known as a place for original research, at least not as far as cemetery and obituary research is concerned. Regarding the methodology for posting that information, the Cemetery Portal links the "Cemeteries as Places" help page showing that the agreed-upon approach for posting cemetery pages is listing them as placenames (see also the Category:Cemeteries of the United States page). So the cemetery sources mentioned above could also have linked placename pages too, which could be the start to an original research page here.

As I posted at your user talk page I think the approach you used for the Pencader Cemetery is unique and still meets the WR guidelines with identifying the actual cemetery at the associated placename page. I'm not sure that posting the Cemetery transcriptions category at the Special Projects category would serve your intended purpose, although I agree that in the meantime a cross-reference note or link from the Category:Cemetery records page might certainly be in order. Unfortunately, it seems most "Special Projects" end up being someone's pet project rather than a collaborative effort. I think our interest in cemetery research is a specialized area of research for which there seems to be little interest here at WR at this time; User:JoshHansen, User:Moultriecreek and User:Ajcrow and myself have been the only contributors to the Cemetery Portal.

Great corresponding about this with you. --BobC 04:18, 17 January 2010 (EST)

I've added a to-do note at the Cemetery Portal to create WR cemetery placenames of sources identified at Category:Cemetery records. --BobC 04:55, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Hi Bob! Sorry for jumping into the middle of your conversation, but what would you think about adding the cemetery-related source pages to the appropriate cemetery place pages? On the cemetery pages I've been creating, I've been adding a section called "Resources," where I have the link to the cemetery on FindAGrave (if applicable) and the cemetery website (if I happen to find it). There have been a few cemeteries where I have listed a book there as well. I think linking the cemetery sources to the cemetery page could be another way to point people toward information they're looking for. --Amy 15:01, 17 January 2010 (EST)

I think we're both using the same sheet of music, Amy. That's exactly what I had in mind with those random cemetery source pages categorized at Category:Cemetery records. When the cemetery placename page is created it would be great to add the category links for location and for type as identified on the Cemetery Portal. I agree that we don't need to recreate here what others have done on external websites, just provide links to them or for books note them on the page as outside resources (or new WR sources). --BobC 15:42, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Cemetery goal achieved [19 January 2010]

Hi Bob! We now have at least one cemetery for each state in the US and the District of Columbia! I updated the Portal main page to reflect that. -- Amy 20:07, 19 January 2010 (EST)

Thank you [22 January 2010]

Bob, I just wanted to say that I appreciate your confident approach with the Categories project. You’ve helped to encourage a nice team spirit and provided positive feedback. Most importantly, you have really taken the lead to implement the suggested changes. Thank you, and it’s a pleasure working with you on this project. --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:58, 21 January 2010 (EST)

Thank you very much for your comments and encouragement, Jennifer, but in fact I (and the entire WeRelate community) owe a debt of gratitute to you and Janie especially and primarily. Because of the assistance of both of you this project is legitimized and validated, something it would not have had without your valuable input. I think together we've done more in the past three days related to category organization and maintenance than anyone besides Dallan has done in the year I've been associated with WeRelate. Now it looks like we've only got a few clean-up items remaining in the primary categories and then we can go into the weeds and look for those wierd misplaced and misdirected category links further down the category chain. --BobC 15:06, 21 January 2010 (EST)

I'll add my thanks too. I'm very wiki-challenged and to be able to do this has been very enjoyable and I'm learning a lot. I appreciate the opportunity to have my two cents heard! Someone said one time it was difficult for folks experienced with wiki to know where wiki-challenged folks are going to have trouble. So in a way, I see that as my place for now. To let you know where I stumble so it can be fixed (or explained in such a way that I can understand it.) When we're satisfied with this, then we should to go to Help for categories to update that too! A little like genealogy - there's nowhere to stop. --Janiejac 14:46, 22 January 2010 (EST)

No watchers? [23 January 2010]

I think this falls under the Category:Stupid Questions . . . Why aren't watchers listed on the WeRelate:Categories project page? The menu says I can 'unwatch' and I do get notices of changes - but there are NO watchers listed on this page or on it's 'talk' page! Not a big deal, but just makes me wonder. I'm curious as to who else is taking an interest.--Janiejac 14:12, 22 January 2010 (EST)

Hi janie, Are you conerned that nobody saw your note on the Watercooler page indicating continuation of the discussion on this new page? I don't believe "Watchers" are normally visibly listed on these type pages. The Watch link automatically changes for a person when they make a change or click on "Watch" on the tab bar above. In any case, I added a link to the Active Discussions Taking Place at Other Pages link at Watercooler. In my own mind I think the three of us (you, me and Jennifer) balance each other well and work as a team together quite fairly -- can't say the same about a few others who can't seem to climb out of the box they've created for themselves here and expect others to abide by the rules they've interpreted as built out of concrete; no names need be given. Besides, I haven't really seen any further input at the same Watercooler topic in the past few days during the same period that we've been going to town seemingly, as you observed, on our own. Maybe it's a sign of our competence that others are just content to let us do the work as they work on their own family trees (or even their lack of interest). Both are okay with me to some degree. --BobC 15:00, 22 January 2010 (EST)

Since our WeRelate:Categories project is in the WeRelate namespace, watchers are not indicated on that page. You need to do a search for Categories project, and on the list of results, you will see there are currently 7 watchers.--Jennifer (JBS66) 16:50, 22 January 2010 (EST)

Thanks for the explanation! It bugs me to see these little things I don't understand. Yes, this Category project seems to be going very well. There was a LOT there I didn't understand! I tell you what doesn't make sense to me, and most of the time I don't know enough yet to be able to fix it. But y'all are doing a great job of it and making my learning process pleasant. --Janiejac 19:55, 23 January 2010 (EST)

Remeschatis [28 January 2010]

Thanks for your thoughts at [1]! Linda Remeschatis is my aunt - her husband is my mother's brother. He had two daughters, so he is likely to be the last of the Remeschatis surname for this particular line. I can pretty much trace all the U.S. Remeschatis' I've ever found to the descendants of our common immigrant ancestor in 1871; so far none of them have had any insights into the origins of the family. I should create an official one surname study for the name; it is very unusual. Someday I will (tho I had best do it soon before they all die out!)--Brenda (kennebec1) 11:07, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Hi Brenda. Sometimes those rare surnames can either be a blessing (it's a good chance all are related) or a bane (because information is difficult to find). My ancestral Swiss Schönauer name is one like yours, with multiple spelling variations here in the U.S. which I learned most are related and can be grouped generationally and by offspring.

With all your help on the source renaming project last year I'm surprised you haven't joined in on the category project underway now (referred to above). --BobC 11:25, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Redirecting categories [24 September 2010]

Bob, due to MediaWiki limitations, Wikipedia does not recommend redirecting categories (see Category_redirects). Since nothing links to the Category:Genealogical Content page, I'm going to go ahead and delete it. Let me know if that poses any problems. Thanks. --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:30, 30 January 2010 (EST)

I had two categories: Category:Jackson surname and [[:Category:Jackson Surname]]. I got everything moved off of the one capitalizing Surname but can't delete it as there are some pgs that link to it (and there is no delete button). So what do I do with the now empty category that has no watchers? --Janiejac 22:14, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

I corrected the problem for you: I changed the category references to the correct lower case so there are no more links to it and it pooints to the correctly formatted category namespace, and put up the page for speedy delete. Take care. --BobC 12:38, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

category to user page question [2 February 2010]

Hi Bob, Thanks for your note here: Category:Janiejac's Trees OK, I've come to see this was not such a good idea. OK to delete. --Janiejac. Janie, rather than delete, why not just move its contents to your own User Page. You can then title it anything you want, "Janiejac's Trees," "Nobody's Business," "Something I Just Dramed Up!," whatever. --BobC

I still like the idea of *Category:Janiejac's Trees but understand that having such a category for every user would eventually overwhelm the system. I think I know how to move the text at the top of Category:Janiejac's Trees page, but what do I do about the person and family pages that are already linked to this category? Do I need to click on each link to . . .hmm I can't have those pages link to a user page, can I? I am having trouble envisioning how this can work? --Janiejac 00:09, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Hi Janie. If you create your own User Page, in edit mode copy the text from your category page and paste it to the User Page (once again in edit mode so all links are preserved). For every family and person page you have linked to the category page, yes, you'll have to edit each. In it you'll do two things: Add a "==See Also==" heading at the bottom of the textual content along with the new User Page link "[[User:Janiejac/My_Trees]]" (or whatever you name it). After you do it the first time, copy those two lines and you can paste to each of the other files to make your editing job easier. While you're in each family or person page, ensure you delete the Category:Janiejac's Trees link on the bottom of each to comply with the WeRelate protocol established. As you know it will probably be easier doing this with two screens open rather than just one. Hope that helps. --BobC 12:06, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Yes, your instructions helped! Thank you for your help. (It actually hurt as I was deleting the info from that category!) But those links are on my user page now and organized better. One thing I did notice; I had some pages that I didn't even remember their names and had no idea which tree they belonged to. Since I uploaded several small trees, the only way I know to determine which tree the page belongs to is to edit the page and see which tree is checked at the bottom of the edit page! Seems like there should be a better way, but that's all I can think of now. Maybe in the long run, it won't matter which tree it was in when originally uploaded. --Janiejac 23:32, 2 February 2010 (EST)

American Indian woman u.s. vets [31 January 2010]

Hello Bob, this is a link you might be interested in for the American Indian woman u.s. vets. Hope it helps.

http://www.defense.gov/specials/nativeamerican01/women.html

Debbie Freeman --DFree 15:15, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Thanks Debbie. I added it to the Native American Research Guide. I might create a WR source page for it because then I can add it as a link to both the American Indian and Military categories. Take care and appreciate you bringing it to my attention. --BobC 23:07, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Thanks [8 February 2010]

Bob, thanks for catching my bad link. I had that link on many other pages. Have now corrected them all. --Beth 12:29, 7 February 2010 (EST)

No problem, Beth. --BobC 08:24, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Thanks from Janie [26 April 2010]

Many thanks for the instructions. Perhaps I am overly concerned about putting stuff on werelate that other folks will need to clean up. I'm about to decide to upload it the way it is just to assure that it gets preserved before I reach the point of being unable to upload it at all. Maybe I'll get it cleaned up and maybe it will be left for others to clean up. But at least the info will be left for others. Most, but not all, of what I have is on my website, but I'm of the age that I look around for a way to pass it on. --Janiejac 18:19, 9 February 2010 (EST)

Bob, I'm back with frustration and questions about categories and you are the only one I know to ask. After a strong start with the category project, I bailed when it got way too confusing to me.

Since it is NOT added automatically, I just added Category:Jackson in Hempstead, Queens, New York to Person:Robert Jackson (1) page. When I clicked on the category there is Robert alphabetized under 'P' !! for Person! Which means every person page that uses this category in the future will be listed by 'P' instead of by their name! This is crazy.

Since eventually I hope to upload a large GEDCOM, I hate to think of having to add these surname-in-place categories manually to each person and family page. Why are they not added automatically from info in the birth or death window? And was a decision made to limit the Surname in Place Category to state level or can I drill down to county and/or city level? --Janiejac 13:04, 26 April 2010 (EDT)

Hi again, Janie. While I usually try to make a point to advise rather than to edit, in this case it was probably more instructive to edit the entry for you to show you what I did and how it's done. It's basically an easy fix: just add the word you want the entry to be identified under within the category after the entry using the "|" bar separator and it will be categorized there, such as [[Category:Jackson in Hempstead, Queens, New York|Jackson]].

Regarding entries under Category:Surname in place, Surname in Place articles are titled by the full place title down to lowest known geopolitical level, whereas Surname in Place categories are by state level and above. That's just how it was built. If that doesn't work well for you, then you'll have to manually add sub-level categories down to county level and link them to the next higher geopolicital category, if that is your preference.

The Surname in Place concept apparently is not too well-received by some WR users, ardently so by a couple, for reasons I'm not quite sure. It seems they feel that somehow the Surname in Place category is preventing something better from being used. My recommendation for them is to create (or encourage Dallan to create) any categorization scheme that will enhance useability for WR users, but don't take away functions that are presently in use and adds to the user-friendliness of the program.

Just my point of view. --BobC 13:36, 26 April 2010 (EDT)

Thanks! [18 February 2010]

Thanks Bob, it is good to have that exchange where I can find it easily again. I hadn't thought to move it.--Janiejac 11:20, 18 February 2010 (EST)

Question [3 March 2010]

How did you know the William and Francis Passengers category existed if it doesn't link anywhere or have any articles in it? It didn't seem to "exist" any more than Category:Alasdfkj, so I was wondering why we should bother deleting it? (I did delete it, now that there's the history of your additions, but the whole exercise seems odd.)--Amelia 15:24, 3 March 2010 (EST)

By reviewing Special:Uncategorized categories and comments at WeRelate talk:Categories project. --BobC 15:47, 3 March 2010 (EST)

France categories [4 March 2010]

Bob, just an FYI. I've been avoiding categorizing France due to a bug in the system. When Dallan renamed these pages, he removed an entire hierarchy level, but the automatic categories do not currently reflect this. I brought it up on the Category project page. We are having the same problem with Portugal. --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:19, 4 March 2010 (EST)

Thanks for the heads-up. I did about 10 of the most populous (as far as WR users are concerned), so I'll hold off on any others. --BobC 14:25, 4 March 2010 (EST)

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Recent comments on categories [11 April 2010]

Bob, I appreciate your recent comments on the category structure of WR. I do think you have some very good ideas. I'm wondering if we might be able to have a discussion about how Wikipedia categorizes some of their pages. I keep feeling that if we closely examine what WP is doing, we could save ourselves a lot of headaches here. Are you open to that? --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:40, 2 April 2010 (EDT)

Jennifer, while I respect your knowledge and acumen in wiki-world, acknowledge your contributions and efforts here at WR, and appeciate your offer to expand the discussion, we seem to have distinct differences in opinion of Wikipedia and in your insistence on using it as the wiki "gold standard" or guidepost, as I've tried to share in at least a couple posts elsewhere. If we can have a equivalent discussion on categorization based on organizational logic, reason and sensibility, using methodology that can be validited in deductive reasoning and authenticated by logical approaches for categorizing WeRelate articles, pages and categories, then yes, I'm open to expanding the discussion with you; but if it is going to be a one-sided lecture about how Wikipedia categorizes its subjects, then no, I think I'd rather work in my garden and pull weeds. *_* v/r --BobC 10:13, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

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2325068.ged Imported Successfully [21 April 2010]

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kpriddy.ged Imported Successfully [23 April 2010]

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dwynepatrick.ged Imported Successfully [6 May 2010]

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Featured Page for week of June 21 [25 June 2010]

Hello Bob, just wanted to let you know that the following page, Surname Kemp that you contributed to has been selected as WeRelate's Featured Page for the week of June 21, 2010. Great work, thanks for your work on this page.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 14:29, 21 June 2010 (EDT) Volunteer Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 14:30, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

Appreciate the acknolwedgment and deference, and although I may have added the latest touches to that page, it is a collaborative effort, and I hope the other contributors have been acknowledged as well. You yourself provide an excellent service in helping evaluate and highlight the noteworthy contributions to WeRelate, and from my little corner office in my home, I say thank you as well. Take care. --BobC 18:46, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

You're welcome as well:) FYI - I did also acknowledge User: Nastrond as well, as I noticed that he/she did much of the "leg-work". Have a great week, keep up the good work and best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 20:08, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

Jim, I hope you don't mind that I modified the featured page entry relating to the Kemp page slightly, because I don't want users and researchers to assume the page is devoted to a single specific Kemp family, but should be thought of as a One-Name Study, reflecting the purpose and use of our WeRelate Surname Pages, which are designed to contain and collect broad historical information about indiviaual surnames regardless of family connections.--BobC 09:22, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

Not a problem, agree with the modification.:)

Jim--Delijim 18:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

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EmielSchoennauer1D.ged Imported Successfully [27 June 2010]

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DOERING.ged Imported Successfully [1 July 2010]

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3142404D.ged Imported Successfully [21 July 2010]

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 July 2010]

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okamiA6.ged Imported Successfully [26 July 2010]

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3259252A.ged Imported Successfully [1 August 2010]

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483121A.ged Imported Successfully [5 August 2010]

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mjelmore2-A6.ged Imported Successfully [12 August 2010]

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My Wiley Page [25 August 2010]

Hi Bob,

I saw your comments on my "Wiley Page" and the featured James Richey page. I really appreciate your liking my Wiley page. I've only been on WeRelate for a short time and it's encouraging that others like my work. The Wriley Pollard page was not nearly complete when they selected the James Richey page. I still had a large section that had not been done. This is my husband's family and I have a lot of data to add and I can't get it on fast enough.

Again, thanks for the encouraging words. P. S. You sure have a lot of nice pages...

Pam User:Txbluebell6--Txbluebell6 13:52, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

Hi Pam, thank you for your comments as well. There are far too many near-blank person and family pages here at WeRelate (or pages with minimal info info on them), so it's good to see one with some honest hard work to it. I guess I was curious as to why it was not listed on the featured page as a nominated page -- I didn't realize until reading your message that is was still being update. Good luck in your research. --BobC 14:32, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

Could you do an edit on place pg for NYC? [26 August 2010]

Bob,

I just saw something on wikipedia that I thought would be helpful for the place page for NYC. I came to WR to see if we already had it and see that we don't. Also see that to do much would be a major undertaking. Perhaps just a little bit could be done now and then.

Here is what I found that helped me understand how the area that used to be Hempstead, Queens Co, became part of NYC. Note the two images that I believe would be genealogical help: the table showing boroughs and the small map showing the distinct boroughs. I think these can be brought over and used but I have no idea of how to do that. I see that you are a watcher for that page and wondered if you would have time or inclination to add the map and the table?? Here is a link to what I'm referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borough_(New_York_City)

I clicked on the link to 'five boroughs' which is already on our place page, but I don't think it goes to the right page. I'd rather see the table and map here anyway, instead of just being linked to wikipedia. Don't feel any pressure to do this . . .I just knew I couldn't but thought it was neat and it helped me understand.--Janiejac 01:18, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Hi Janie, I've added the Boroughs narrative and grahics as a section to the Place:New York City, New York, United States page. I agree that it important in understanding the history and demographics of the city at large. Thanks for the lead. I hope it's close to what you had in mind. --BobC 20:48, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks Bob! The map looks great but the table showing Jurisdictions lost some of it's info. I liked the ability to see which county each borough was in and that info didn't come over. If pressed for space, the table showing % of population is not at all important to me but the table showing jurisdictions is. (So many of the people in my db lived in Queens in the 1700-1800s. Now I've got to figure out if they lived in the part that became Nassau or in the part that became Kings. Eck! I've never been there, so had a hard time envisioning it. The map is very helpful! Thanks! --Janiejac 21:45, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Isn't the info you're looking for under "County of"? --BobC 21:54, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Next Week's Featured Page [28 August 2010]

Bob, I'd like to use your Cherokee Heritage Project Page as next week's WeRelate Featured Page. I noticed that you have one small area "under construction", did you want to remove that area? Otherwise, I think it is more than worthy of recognition and beats the heck out of 'Ol Louis XVI.... :) I like to "mix it up" and show different types of pages, especially the "project pages" that some of us have worked on for many hours.... I'll probably feature one of my project pages in a few weeks, then probably one of Bill's (Quolla6).

Best regards,

Jim--Delijim 15:48, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks much, Jim. Give me until tomorrow night to remove the construction link and touch it up a bit and then go ahead and link to it. There's actually so much more I wanted to do with it, but I get sidetracked on other projects (not to mention life in general -- as we've already discussed. --BobC 21:06, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

Sounds great, this project should have been acknowledged before... One of the best on WeRelate, in my opinion. :)

Best regards,

Jim--Delijim 15:43, 28 August 2010 (EDT)

Cherokee Page [2 September 2010]

A very well done page! I enjoyed reading it. --Txbluebell6 21:10, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Appreciate your interest and your remarks. If you have more to add to the subject or can enhance it, please feel free to do so. I had hoped to make this page collaborative, and I hope that by it being highlighted on the homepage, that others will take an interest and add to it or edit portions that are incomplete. I am on a couple RootsWeb ListServ message boards relating to Cherokee Indian heritage and DNA, but have hesitated as yet to "advertise" the page there because some of those folks are far more knowledgeable, saavy and personally invested than I, and I didn't want my start-up efforts here on the subject to be ground into dust until I had some more substance or "meat" in the page. --BobC 23:14, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Status of your gedcom file [6 September 2010]

Hi, I'm wondering if you're planning to load this file or if it needs to be deleted. It's getting a bit stale. --Judy (jlanoux) 19:27, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

To some who are too impetuous, impatient and inappreciably hasty, a good fruit once ripened only turns stale; to others it becomes a vineyardist's delight, a strategically planned ripening of delicious worth. Thank you so much for the reminder to water the digital vines in my vineyard, but please leave my genealogical fruit to ripen on it's own. It will soon reach it's intended maturity. Enjoy your holiday. --BobC 00:43, 6 September 2010 (EDT)

mjelmore2-D6.ged Imported Successfully [6 September 2010]

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OK Corral Article

Bob, regarding Source:O'Dowd, Peter. Clerks Find Papers from 1881 Gunfight at OK Corral -- reproducing the entire article, including even the photo, is almost certainly a copyright violation. This goes way beyond "fair use." And all you need is the link to the original article in any case. --Mike^Talk 13:40, 6 September 2010 (EDT)

3142404A.ged appears to overlap a previously-imported GEDCOM [10 September 2010]

The pages from this GEDCOM have not yet been generated because they appear to match pages from a GEDCOM you have previously imported to WeRelate.

If you have already imported a GEDCOM containing people in this GEDCOM and you want to replace that tree with this GEDCOM, you need to delete that tree first so duplicates aren't created when you import this GEDCOM. Click on Trees in the "My Relate" menu, then click on the "delete" link next to that tree. Please be aware that any pages in the tree that are being watched by others won't get deleted. Once that tree is deleted you can create a new tree and re-upload this GEDCOM into it. (We're planning to make re-uploading GEDCOM files much simpler soon.)

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--WeRelate agent 09:18, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [13 September 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded 3142404A.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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--WeRelate agent 11:27, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Notable people [18 September 2010]

Nice work on categorizing what had gotten somewhat unwieldy. And nice use of the minor edit... that's why I didn't see what had happened and have messed it up a bit. I'll fix ;-) --Amelia 18:21, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

Featured Page [28 September 2010]

Hello, just wanted to let you know that one of the WeRelate person pages that you've contributed to and worked on (added images), Nicholas Earp, has been selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page. Thanks and keep up the good work.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 13:56, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

3142404A.ged Imported Successfully [4 October 2010]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 18:27, 4 October 2010 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [6 October 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded philgibbs1.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 23:49, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

Categories [22 October 2010]

I keep seeing activity on category pages on the Recent Changes pages with your name, so I assume you are working on organizing them. I am not really familiar with what is being done or where it stands. I was looking at one or two of the Surname categories and noticed something that seems odd to me. Kendall in Massachusetts is listed as being in the Kendall Surname category. So I went to the Kendall Surname category page to see what other Kendall subcategories there were, and none, not even the Massachusetts one, were listed. Is this how they all work? It would seem, intuitively, that the main Kendall category would contain a master list of all the subcategories as a navigational aid, the way it also lists all the Family and Person pages in the category. No? Is this true of all of them or did I just pick a category tree that has yet to be organized? Thanks. --Jrich 09:12, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

Never mind. It was on one of the later pages. I had assumed that Category would be under C. --Jrich 09:15, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

more ? on categories [15 December 2010]

Hi Bob, I'm hoping you can help resolve my confusion. Would you go to http://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Jackson_surname&from=J to see what I'm seeing - this is 'Category:Jackson Surname'. There are 3 categories at the top of the page and several 'articles' at the bottom of the page. I have created these categories and articles but their titles are the same and it is driving me nutty. I need to do something differently!

I assume you are saying there are categories and articles with the same name, and not what I first read, that there are multiple articles with the same title. After all the system wouldn't support two articles with the same name. I personally don't see why this is an issue since they are displayed in different groupings with categories labelled as such, and articles as such, and you click on either one and the system knows what to do. As far as articles, I think you can label it however you want, if you want to make them alphabetize so that all articles pertaining to one area get grouped together, etc., that shouldn't be an issue. But of course, the title should remain descriptive and understandable to others, unless you are talking about private articles. --Jrich 16:25, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

I've been studying Bill Willis' Tapestry and see that he has divided his articles by type: Data. xxx or Analysis. xxx and even Notebook. xxx. I'm thinking that may be what I want to do with my articles to help me organize the articles better and to distinguish the titles different from the categories.

Does this make sense? Would it conflict with any WeRelate protocol?--Janiejac 14:51, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

Actually, Janie, I wouldn't be too concerned with what you see as conflicts or confusion in the Jackson surname category page, because in fact the category pages are just internal finding aids for organizational assistance -- something akin to a library card catalog. Each surname-in-place article automatically creates its own surname-in-place category, which in turn should be linked to its three parental categories: (1) the associated surname page, (2) the associated placename page, and (3) the Surname in place category page. Unfortunately, Dallan has not yet created an automatic function to do the latter. I have been monitoring the Wanted Categories index page closely and have created parent categories for those category pages with over 200 linked pages (i.e. those wanted category pages which would exceed one page -- or over 200 links), whether they be surname pages, placename pages, or surname-in-place pages. That may have been how your three Jackson surname-in-place category pages were created, I'm not sure.

The Tapestry pages you referred to were created using a more advanced indexing method Bill thought would serve his purpose, but I would ask you to reconsider carefully using that template as a guideline because that too has built-in problems because of its complexity, use of multiple uncategorized WeRelate templates, and lack of automated linkability to parental categories. Your problem with the Jackson pages, as I see it, is the sheer volume of pages and information you have uploaded and are maintaining. Much of that interconnectability can be solved by organized use of parental and linked categories, manually created and maintained at this point.

Good luck. Hope that helped. --BobC

Thanks Bob! I think you've hit on my problem - it is the volume of pages - so many I can't remember them and Dallan hasn't yet created the ability to print out a list of pages I created. Remember I earlier had a category Janiejac's Tree for that purpose and had then had to give that up. So I think I've cast my net too far and have more than I can keep track of. I'll try to find them all, print off the first page and put them in a notebook and organize them in whatever way seems logical to me. That's what I was hoping to use the Category:Jackson Tapestry/then type of pages (Data, notebook etc) for - an organized replacement for Janiejac's Tree. Using the Tapestry wouldn't have been so much 'mine' but would hopefully gather together all Jackson info. Yep - cast my net too far!! I just got confused and was looking for an easier way to navigate through my pages. I thought Bill's navigation box might be the way to go. I didn't need the image bar but the links to types of pages was and still is intriguing. So I'll backup and take baby steps! Thanks so much for helping me think this through! --Janiejac 00:24, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for adding the parent category to Pocahontas, West Virginia‎. That helped me see what I needed to do. --Janiejac 21:33, 15 December 2010 (EST)

Coleman Family Exchange [10 November 2010]

Bob, I have transferred the data from the Coleman Family Exchange to Surname:Coleman and recommended Coleman Family Exchange for speedy delete. You have a reference to this site on the portal so please remove the reference. Thanks. --Beth 00:56, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

All changes to those references have been made that I can see. Thanks. --BobC 00:44, 10 November 2010 (EST)

De Koning edit 07.11-2010 [10 November 2010]

Hi Bob,

I received a notification that you did an edit on the De Koning name and added parents? I am working on the same name, who did you edit? I can not seem to find it

Annemarie ( grand daughter of a De Koning)--Kalishoek 10:59, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Actually I only added the Surname Category as a parent category to the De Koning surname category since there were over 200 referenced pages in it. No other edit were made. I have no connection to the surname. Good luck with your research. --BobC 00:42, 10 November 2010 (EST)