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Trying to access my old tree [24 December 2024]

Hey Dallan - I've been trying to access my original tree under "TheLiederAcademy" but that email is long gone. Is there a way I can get that tree back? Also - how do you build a tree of WeRelate? I have a lot of my pictures here and I want to see them.

I hope you are well - Tell Solveig I said hi!

Jennifer Lieder Fargo Family History Center Director Fargo National Cemetery Manager--Jenlieder 14:46, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Theliederacademy? --Jrich 15:55, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Jennifer, nice to hear from you again! It looks like the User:Theliederacademy is using the same email as User:Jenlieder, so just log into Theliederacademy and click on "Email password". That will send you a new password for that account.
If you want to build a tree, click on "MyTrees" in the "MyRelate" menu at the top of the page, then click on "Create a new tree", then navigate to the pages you want to add to that tree, Edit them, and click on the tree you want to add them to at the bottom of the page.
Solveig says hi back :-)--Dallan 01:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

J’essaie d’utiliser mon gedcom, rien ne fonctionne, site impossible à comprendre, jamais rien vu de pareil. Vos instructions ne fonctionnent pas, impossible de rien faire. Extrêmement complexe et incompréhensible…--Mamielise61 04:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


Delete My Tree [16 June 2022]

Dallan, My tree(s) have so many errors and inconsistencies that I have discovered. I want to delete my tree and my account, and I am unable to do that because of the "watchers". What good is a tree with all the incorrect data? Please help me to delete my account.--Mars 17:39, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it appears that a number of other people have also been contributing to the pages that you originally uploaded. Even pages that haven't also been edited by others would be missed if I were to delete the pages that you originally uploaded. This page reports that several dozen people you originally uploaded are part of families that others have also contributed to, and those families would have missing family members.
We have a new data quality page, that reports probable errors in people's trees, but it reports 0 errors for your tree. No one's genealogy is perfect, but it appears to me that yours is pretty good!
If you'd still to delete your tree, let me know if there are particular lines that you'd like me to delete. I can delete pages that you're unhappy with so long as they don't impact families that others are also working on.--Dallan 20:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia routine [30 August 2022]

Hi Dallan - The history [1] of Template:Wp-President of the United States suggests that the Wikipedia routine has not run since 2019. Is that accurate? I'm trying to remember if the overall schedule had officially changed, but everywhere I look, it still says it should run 1-2x/year. Would it be possible to run it soon? Thank you, --cos1776 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's probably true! It's been a long time (way too long) since I've run it. I will run it this weekend.--Dallan 03:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
I started the new WP update on Sunday and it finished yesterday.--Dallan 14:43, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Wow! There must have been a lot to update, since it's been a while. A new user was asking about it, so thank you for running it. --cos1776 23:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, thank you!--Julie Kelts 15:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


Place:Wood Hey Laithe, West Riding of Yorkshire, England [18 August 2022]

Hi Dallan I am trying to sort out User:Dsrodgers34's work on Holme, West Riding of Yorkshire, England. One aim is to redirect all the hamlets within the parish of Holme back to the main parish. One place, Mount Farm has already been redirected to Holme, but it is also a "contained place" to Wood Hey Laithe. Now Wood Hey Laithe refuses to be redirected. (I have already made it into a sub-article to Holme.)

Could you please see what you can do to sort out what I think is a very small problem.

I wish I could say that the rest of User:Dsrodgers34's work is a very small problem.

/cheers, Pat (GoldenOldie)--Goldenoldie 12:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

I just renamed Mount Farm to Place:Mount Farm, Holme, West Riding of Yorkshire, England and removed it as a contained place from Place:Wood Hey Laithe, West Riding of Yorkshire, England. Does that help?--Dallan 03:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Removal helps. I have discussed Wood Hey Laithe under Holme and added a note re Mount Farm to that discussion. My policy, particularly in the UK, is to remove all places under the level of parish (ancient or civil) and to redirect them to the parish in which they are located. Seems to me that, for our purposes, tiny places that are "located in" minor hamlets are just as unnecessary as a "place" as a street address in a city. Placenames should be reserved for places named in registration documents, i.e., censuses and "bmd" documents provided by religious institutions.

When I redirect a small place into a larger place I use italics to name the smaller place.

Sorry, I am trying to rush and my vocabulary is not keeping up with my thoughts.

Thanks and regards, --Goldenoldie 07:58, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks for your work on this!--Dallan 01:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

James Weir b.1748 [18 January 2023]

Hello Dallan,

Can you tell me who contributed the information for a one James Weir b. 1748 on your WeRelate page? I’d like to contact them.

Thanks George--Sunnyvalley 13:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I put a reply on the user's page. --Jrich 16:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Jrich thank you--Dallan 15:55, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Happy if it was helpful. --Jrich 06:05, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Delete my account [26 June 2023]

Am trying to figure out how to delete my account. Can you help me with that?--GenSearcher22 20:53, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Done--Dallan 22:32, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Renaming ... [16 March 2024]

Hello ! Why ? ... https://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Place:Borce%2C_Pyr%C3%A9n%C3%A9es-Atlantiques%2C_France&action=history and this automatic revert of my logic "actualisation" for all communes of this département ? --> Le département des "Basses-Pyrénées" a été renommé officiellement "Pyrénées-Atlantiques" depuis OCTOBRE 1969.

- --Markus3 05:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

The same work of actualisation is necessary for "Côtes-du-Nord" --> "Côtes d'Armor" ... depuis Février 1990.
---Markus3 06:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what the WeRelate Agent is doing, but I will point out that the WeRelate standard for France Place names is that they reflect what was in place in 1965 (see How Places are Organized in Place:France). So Places shouldn't be renamed based on changes after that. Note that the standard for North America is the year 1900.--DataAnalyst 14:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


Delete account [23 March 2024]

Please delete my account. I reviewed this and I do not like it as it is unorganized, old, outdated and difficult to use. I will not be using this.--Nanasfamily 00:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


Done--Dallan 03:40, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


Stuck Gedcom - "Importing" [27 October 2024]

Dallan, I just noticed that there's a Gedcom file from some months ago stuck in "Importing" state (as happens from time to time on this host). Although the submitter might have lost hope for it, it really should get completed. As you're the only one I know that has the knowledge and permission to kick this back into action, I'm asking you to do so. It is this one:

       04:45, 23 May 2024 Importing ‎Untitled_3.ged [22,733 bytes] Cual (Talk...

Thanks --robert.shaw 18:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. It had already been reviewed and was stuck importing. I got it unstuck and it's now been imported: https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Special:Gedcoms?status=3&offset=0&limit=50&submit=Go --Dallan 04:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Looks like another stuck Gedcom [1 November 2024]

Sometime after posting the above about the "‎Untitled_3.ged" file, I handled another Gedcom and then started it importing. Unfortunately it seems to have been stuck in state 7, "Importing", for 2 days, as https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Special:Gedcoms?status=7&offset=0&limit=50&submit=Go shows:

    23:55, 27 October 2024 Importing ‎Costello Direct.ged [1,367,508 bytes] Bcostello51 (Talk...

and no import contributions have appeared for the user. (The file looks big, but all except 60 Persons are excluded.) Seems like another unsticking chore is needed on this file. --robert.shaw 05:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

It's been imported now.--Dallan 19:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Can I clarify something, please? [12 February 2025]

When I started work on Lincolnshire Placenames 2 weeks ago, I went to the Help page to refresh my memory on how to express things. Surprise! Surprise! You have had a real reorganization! I copied down the instructions to OneNote which I can keep beside me while working on WR.

Both {{source-wikipedia|title of the Wikipedia article}} and {{source-WP|title of the Wikipedia article}} are used in the instructive article. I tried them both.

If I used {{source-WP|title of the Wikipedia article}}, the finished Place Page title came up in a dark red which I took to mean there was an error. If I used {{source-wikipedia|title of the Wikipedia article}}, the title was a blue Wikipedia which I took to mean I had expressed it correctly. As a result I stuck with {{source-wikipedia|...}}. I checked through last week's contributions carefully and adjusted all my errors. This week's changes have just come through and I notice that everything is being corrected back to {{source-WP|.....}}. Could you clarify, please?

While writing, I also have a query about section headings. Some Wikipedia writers are very wordy and provide a number of sub-sections under History. Some of these sub-sections are useful to family historians; some could well be omitted. Is there any way we could use the sub-sections selectively?

Regards Pat --Goldenoldie 17:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

You want to use the {{source-wikipedia|title of the Wikipedia article}} as you've been doing. After you do that, a program runs that looks for the source-wikipedia entries and turns them into {{Wp-title of the Wikipedia article}} entries. That's what happened here and is expected. The program makes sure that the corresponding Wp template exists before replacing your source-wikipedia template with the Wp template.
The Help:Guidelines for use of Wikipedia page recommends against using section (and sub-section) headings because they can get out of date. Also, you have to create the Wp templates for sections (and sub-sections) manually, as described in Guidelines, which is a bit of a pain. The program doesn't create them for you. Given that we don't update from wikipedia very often, I don't see it being too much of a problem if you want to create them. Just use them sparingly.
Please let me know if anything else comes up.--Dallan 18:15, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, Dallan.

There are times when certain sub-sections are really worth taking in while the rest of the section is far too 20th century or goes back to the Romans. I've had enough practice over the years to employ the good ones (and credit Wikipedia with them) that I can continue to do so.

Regards, Pat --Goldenoldie 21:12, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Pat—Dallan 08:19, 12 February 2025 (UTC)