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Morrow DNA Group 4 (NC Irish)

This is one of three groups traced to men in North Carolina in the 18th century (the others being Group 2 and Group 6 ). Note these groups are entirely unrelated. This is the most diffuse of the group, with at least 4 different groups related in the last 16 generations. More testing is needed at more markers to refine relationships. (There are a lot of numbers below, but, in short, the latter three groups are somewhat more closely related to each other than the Crosswood Oaks group, except that the David Murray line "in the middle" tests as related to everyone within 8 generations.)

This group has significant MURRAY matches, and participants should join that project as well. This group corresponds to Group 2:D:0:3 in the Murray project.

Crosswood Oaks Morrows

William and James Morrow settled at what became known as the Oaks community in southern Orange Co--the "Crosswood/Oaks Morrows." By family tradition, they are brothers, and DNA is consistent, showing a 107/111 match, or mean predicted birth for a common ancestor of 1706 (previously expressed as 89% chance of a common ancestor within 8 generations, which is also consistent with these lines).

  • William Morrow ca1731 - 1807, died Orange Co. NC, m ca 1751 Jane Parks in Ulster.
  • James Morrow ca1740 – aft. 1800, probably in Orange Co., m2. ca 1772 Ann Mebane in Orange Co.

Also matching 107/111 with both lines (suggesting perhaps descent from another brother, or close relation):

Scottish Murrays

These men are closely related to each other, and are related both to the above Crosswood Oaks group and the below group more closely than those two groups relate to each other. This group is directly related to Robert Murray (of Murray Hill family in New York City) and his son, Lindley Murray, author of English Grammar.

  • David Murray of Sussex, DE, 1746-1823. Only tested 67 markers, but at that level, shows as a 95% chance of a common ancestor in the last 8 generations with the other Murrays, the Crosswood Oaks group, and the Thomas group.
  • William Murray (1690-1773) m. Isabella Lindley, immigrated from Scotland and settled on Swatara Creek in now Dauphine Co, PA. He immigrated with his father and brother, both named John, and Robert (above) is his nephew. (Numerous descendants from this line, primarily from his son Samuel, have joined the Murray project, although only one is also in the Morrow project.)
  • James Murray d.1757 Chillisquaque m. Janet or Jean. It's been speculated that James is William's brother; DNA results indicate a more than 95% chance their common ancestor was born after 1660, so that seems likely.
  • Alexander Murray b. 1735 - d. 1791 Cumberland Co, PA, m. Margaret Adams. This participant's tree places this man as a nephew of William, above, but that would make him considerably younger than John's other children. (But the DNA match is 108/111, which is a ~95% chance the common ancestor was born after 1600.) (See also below.
  • Thomas m. Rebecca Small - Thomas Morrow is found in Albemarle Co, VA in 1762, said to owe money, along with John Small, to David Lewis, indicating he was at least 21 and/or already or almost married to John's daughter Rebecca. They are found in records in Henry County, VA until 1801, and then in Wayne County, Kentucky in the 1803 tax list and 1810 census. Their son Matthew was born about 1765 (over 45 by 1810) and married Frances Burnet in 1790 in Henry County, and then also appeared in Wayne County. Descendants of sons Alexander and Thomas match closely at 111 markers.
  • These participants appeared to closely match the Crosswood Oaks line at 25 and 37 markers. But after testing to 111 markers, the match falls to 101 or 102 out of 111, which translates to a common ancestor born around 1400 or 1450. However, they do match the rest of this group, close enough for a 95% chance of a common ancestor in 12 generations. Based on a relatively few Big-700 tests, FTDNA places the split about 500-700 years ago.

Thomas Morrow / Nancy Mann

Two participants are descended from Thomas Morrow m. Nancy Mann, who settled in Marion Co, Indiana in the 1840s. Thomas was the son of John (b. 1760 PA, d. 1835 Indianapolis), whose father has long been thought to be named Alexander. Some think that Alexander is the Alexander married Margaret Adams (above), but the results match only 63/67 with the sample above.)

One of these lines has tested only 25 markers, and the other 67, so more testing is needed. At 67 markers, the matches correlate to a common ancestor born around 1600 (most likely 250-525 years ago) for this line and the Murrays. The match to the Crossroads group is more likely a couple hundred years earlier.

Morrows of Rowan Co, NC / Greene Co, IL

Descendants of John Morrow, b. 1798 NC, died in Greene Co, IL, and Jesse Morrow (1812-1888), also of Greene Co, match 34/37 markers. Based on records associated with William Morrow, Jr., son of William Morrow (~1771-1846) and his wife Jane, they are very likely brothers, even though the DNA is relatively loose for a common ancestor born ~1771. William m. Jane is in turn very likely the son of the John Morrow who left his will in Rowan County, NC in 1815, also naming Allen and Arthur Morrow (also later of Greene County, and daughter Rebecca, who married Charles Lovelace and moved to Greene Co, IL, and Fannin Co, TX.

Morrows of Johnson Co, MO

James G. Morrow appears in the 1850 Johnson Co, MO census in the household of his son John. He is age 76, "born on shipboard on Atlantic Ocean, from Ireland." His father's name was David and they settled first in South Carolina.

This participant matches close enough at 37 markers to suggest a relationship with several of the lines above within generations. However, 37 markers have not proven to hold on other lines once testing was expanded, so more testing is needed.

Other Families

We have Calhouns, Hays, Peden, Innes, and Lankford matches in this group as well. Based on Big-700 mapping (this group has been particularly group about upgrading), Peden and Innes branched off together, probably a few hundred years before colonial times. The Calhouns and Hays are very closely related to the Scottish Murray line above, from which the Crosswood Oaks group branched off later. Lankfords are in the middle, in a split that doesn't appear to have a dominant surname.


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MorrowDNA - Group 4 (NC) ~ {{{Line}}} Line ~ {{{Anc}}} Ancestor: {{{AncLink}}} {{{Addl}}} (info)

Parameters

  • Line = Tested or Related
  • Anc = Early or Tested
  • AncLink=for tested, earliest ancestor or most significant 'fork' in DNA; for related, most recent ancestor from tested line
  • Addl (optional) = Matches cousin (or whatever): (links)

Samples

For a tested line:

{{MorrowDNA4|Line=Tested|Anc=Early|AncLink=[[Person:William Morrow (22)|William Morrow]] of Orange Co, NC|Addl=Matches uncle: [[Person:James Morrow (13)|James Morrow]] of Orange Co, NC}}

Yields:

MorrowDNA - Group 4 (NC) ~ Tested Line ~ Early Ancestor: William Morrow of Orange Co, NC Matches uncle: James Morrow of Orange Co, NC (info)


For a related line (i.e. related male relatives)

{{MorrowDNA4|Line=Related|Anc=Tested|AncLink=[[Person:William Morrow (22)|William Morrow of Orange Co]]|Addl=}}

Yields:

MorrowDNA - Group 4 (NC) ~ Related Line ~ Tested Ancestor: William Morrow of Orange Co (info)