User talk:RGMoffat

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [28 April 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded GIENOW DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 00:40, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [28 April 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded FRED SUMMACH DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 01:44, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Support and help pages [29 April 2011]

Hello Rick, I moved your recent question to the Help talk:Review GEDCOM page. In the future, if you have a question about gedcom uploads, you can leave them on that Help page, rather than creating a new article. If you have general questions, you can leave them on WeRelate talk:Support. One additional tip, you can sign your messages by clicking on the 2nd button from the right that is above the text box of every edit screen. Thank you, --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:13, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

FRED SUMMACH DESCENDANTS.GED Imported Successfully [1 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 12:51, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [13 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded NOACK DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 10:15, 13 May 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [13 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded NOACK DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 23:06, 13 May 2011 (EDT)

NOACK DESCENDANTS.GED Imported Successfully [15 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 08:41, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Radcliffe & Raglan, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada [11 June 2011]

Hi! I'm a volunteer administrator here on WeRelate. Does "Radcliffe & Raglan, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada" refer to one place named "Radcliffe and Raglan" or are there two separate place (one named Radcliffe and one named Raglan)? If they are two separate places, they should each have their own Place page. Thanks! -- Amy (Ajcrow) 23:08, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

In some sources, such as Ontario Birth Registrations, the registrar kept records for more than one township. In some of the related birth records, you cannot tell in which township the birth occurred. In these cases, I have used the combined names, as they are shown on the birth registration ledger.

Thanks for asking. I am still learning how to work with this Wiki, but it is worth the effort.--RGMoffat 08:13, 17 May 2011 (EDT)

WeRelate place pages are for one geographic location. If the census combines the separate municipalities of Radcliffe and Raglan, then that information would need to be placed in the description field instead. We can't create place pages for various combined census designated areas. --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:08, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [3 June 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded MISC INDIVIDUALS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 11:51, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

MISC INDIVIDUALS.GED Imported Successfully [3 June 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 00:13, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [9 June 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded CARL ZUMMACH DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 09:45, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

Source titles [11 June 2011]

Hello, I am an admin here at WeRelate. I've noticed that you have created a few sources for Canadian censuses. We have titling conventions for the Census of Canada that appear here. Similar to the U.S. census source pages, we ask that the Census of Canada be added at the county level and that pages follow a standard convention. For example, Source:Grey, Ontario, Canada. Grey South, Grey, Ontario, Canada YEAR 1911 Census of Canada would need to be renamed to Source:Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1911 Census of Canada.

Please review the sources that you have added to date by viewing your contributions and rename them to follow our naming conventions. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:03, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the clarification. I will rework my sources ASAP.

Rick--RGMoffat 12:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Hi Rick, here is a sample census for Canada that is correctly titled along with the template and category added: Source:Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1911 Census of Canada. You can use this page as a guide to go by. When you rename them, be sure not to include the place twice in the title, so Source:Renfrew, Ontario, Canada. 1871 Census of Canada instead of Source:Renfrew, Ontario, Canada. Renfrew, Ontario, Canada 1871 Census of Canada. When you add the census to your person/family pages if you need detail beyond the county, you can add that in the event's description field. Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:30, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

I realized my error and I think we were stepping on each others toes for a few minutes. I have started from the bottom of my list of sources. I have renamed one source to "Renfrew, Ontario, Canada 1901 Census of Canada".

However, I have other sources at the township level which will now resolve to this same source. I am going to all of the linked pages for them, and changing the source to the one above. Once all links are modified, there is nothing pointing to the page. However, I cannot delete it. For example, "Pembroke, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada. Renfrew North, Pembroke, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada YEAR 1901 Census of Canada" can be deleted so that no one else starts to use it.

How should I advice y'all (I live in Texas) about the sources to be deleted?

Rick--RGMoffat 13:09, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

I think we were getting in each other's way too :-) Thank you so much for your patience, and I'm sorry an admin didn't notice the titles before you got so far along in your sourcing. You can put a speedy delete template on the page by adding {{Speedy Delete|Place your explanation here}} to the text box on the page. That will put it into a category for admin attention.

I see you are renaming your newspapers too - take a look at the conventions for Newspapers first. Having the place name there is ok, like Source:Manitoba Free Press (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada). --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:20, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Small note about Speedy Delete - if you were looking at the code for that from the edit screen, you need to not include the < nowiki > tags around it. Those are so the template displays properly when looking at this talk page. I found the pages you've put into speedy delete so far and I'm working on deleting them. btw, this gave me an opportunity to see your pages - very well sourced I must say, nice! --Jennifer (JBS66) 16:41, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

The census titles are coming along. There is one small piece missing, however. There needs to be a period and a space between the word Canada and the year: for example: Source:Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1911 Census of Canada. I have renamed most that I saw were missing the period. If you need to see what pages link to a particular source page, you can click on What Links Here from the menu at the left. --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:27, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Deleted source [14 June 2011]

Just letting you know that I deleted the source you created (Source:Burant, Ray. H8403.EXE) because gedcoms downloaded from websites, if they must be used as sources (which is itself discouraged), should be MySources, not Source pages, as they are not the type of generally accessible, definable source for which a Source page is useful. For the same reason, we do not create Source pages for individual's webpages or WorldConnect/Ancestry trees. If you need to cite this information, please use a MySource page.--Amelia 14:38, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

Is there more information on this in Help topics. I want to understand and follow guidelines, but it is a real barrier to using this wiki (for me - at this time)

In this particular case, this researcher has spent years extracting genealogical data from Renfrew County newspapers, etc. And making the data available in several versions of web pages. This is just one of them, but since I cannot be sure they are identical, I prefer to be precise when referencing a source.

Let me add that I know such sites are unreliable or questionable, but they are a guideline for future research. I beleive these are valuable to other researchers because they may point them to a new line of research.

Thanks for "listening"

Rick--RGMoffat 09:51, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Hi Rick,

The help here is always a work in progress, and in this particular case, the guidelines themselves have changed over time. We don't have pages for websites in part because they are typically of little interest beyond a small group, in part because they are themselves not the most reliable, in part because the sites themselves have the ability to disappear, and in part because it's simply not scalable to have Source pages for all genealogy websites out there. All those reasons combined lead to us deleting all of the "personal" websites out of the source database and setting a policy that if people want to have pages for them, then they can be MySources. However, your question made me look at the help, and that policy does not appear to have been documented, so confusion is completely understandable. We'll have to work on that.

In the particular case of the .exe source I deleted, there was no information on the source page enabling anyone else to find that file, so that was an additional reason to delete it. I also looked at the other Burant source that I deleted, and sources were cited in a very low proportion of the information, so it did not seem to live up to its promise to have mostly extracted data.

It's also important to note that websites can and should still be cited (either in a general manner, by citing, say, WorldConnect and putting the specific URL in the detail field, or by just putting the webpage in the source field without selecting "Source" or "MySource"). Not everything benefits from having a source page.

If you have other specific questions, let me know.--Amelia 18:04, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Two book sources merged by Admin [14 June 2011]

Can you help me understand why two different volumes of a local history were merged into one source? The sources were volumes one and two of "Hazlet and its heritage". I think it would be lot easier for a person to locate the source book if they knew which volume to look for.--RGMoffat 09:41, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

All volumes of the same work get just one source page because the title is the same and the reasons to have a source page (citation information, repository information, usage tips and discussion) are all common to the set. When you cite the source, you put the volume in the volume/page field.--Amelia 18:04, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

CARL ZUMMACH DESCENDANTS.GED Imported Successfully [14 June 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 15:29, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [20 June 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded MISC INDIVIDUALS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 11:50, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Error linking to Johann Zummach [20 June 2011]

When I try to go to his page I get the following error: Requested Range Not Satisfiable

He is the infant son of August Zummach and Marie Noack.

If something I did caused this error, please let me know so that I can avoid the issue in the future.

Thanks Rick--RGMoffat 12:11, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Rick, I can view Person:Johann Zummach (1) both on Chrome & Firefox. You can try opening a new browser window or refreshing the page cache by refreshing the page while pressing the CTRL key. For support related questions, it is preferable to post at WeRelate talk:Support, as more users are watching that page. Let me know if the above suggestions don't fix the problem. --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:27, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

CRTL and refresh worked. Once again you have come through for me. Thanks.--RGMoffat 15:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Gedcom issue [21 June 2011]

Hello, I am reviewing your current gedcom. The file contains only one person and has no links to any other person. Do you intend to extend this into a tree? Did you know that you can create pages from scratch? It is not necessary to create a gedcom for just a few people. I'm importing it now. Please give Caroline some relatives. --Judy (jlanoux) 16:28, 21 June 2011 (EDT) (WeRelate volunteer)

MISC INDIVIDUALS.GED Imported Successfully [21 June 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 16:29, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 June 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded MORE INDIVIDUALS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 16:29, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

MORE INDIVIDUALS.GED Imported Successfully [24 June 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 18:02, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [2 July 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded GIENOW AND BORK.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 10:34, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Import greyed out [3 July 2011]

Hi, I have found out that you can't edit pages in review when the warnings indicate too many errors to import. I am going to override and import the file for you. Please then edit these problem families and make the needed corrections. Thanks --Judy (jlanoux) 17:37, 3 July 2011 (EDT) (weRelate volunteer)

GIENOW AND BORK.GED Imported Successfully [3 July 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 17:43, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [9 July 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded SPOUSES AND MISSING.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 08:36, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

SPOUSES AND MISSING.GED Imported Successfully [9 July 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 18:39, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 July 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded Yourt.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 23:52, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [14 July 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded Yourt.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 22:39, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Gedcom problems [17 July 2011]

Hello. I have checked your latest gedcom and I don't think I can import it. You have been sending in rapid succession a number of very large files. Please understand that WeRelate is different from your private database. In a public, shared tree people need to be identifiable to be useful. In this particular file, you have many people with no personal events or dates and who are not attached to others in a tree. A family such as "John Smith and Mary" with no links to anyone else and no dates or places becomes only clutter in a large, shared database. Please work on your files a little before submitting them. If your personal file does not give you the ability to filter exports, you can try one of the free ones who do. You can also make use of the exclude box in WeRelate to surpress creation of pages which are inappropriate. Thanks. --Judy (jlanoux) 11:28, 17 July 2011 (EDT) (WeRelate volunteers)

The "orphan" people that you mention will be linked to data already uploaded. I am still working on an ideal process but here is what I am doing so far: 1) identify a group of records to upload. I have tried loading them with or without spouses. When I include spouses, my export utility does not filter on the "living" flag so I end up with excluded data. Still not sure which will work best. 2) after uploading, I review each record loaded to remove some sources and modify others. I then flag them on my database as loaded and reviewed. 3) where I have a marriage registration that identifies parents, I upload them as well, but they will not have birth or death dates, etc. I load them because it will help other researchers ensure the family connection is the one they are looking for. 4) during my review, if I find that a spouse was not uploaded, I flag them for the next upload. I then connect them manually. 5) Similarly, some uploaded records are duplicates of people already loaded. I occasionally manually create a family page for parents and then upload the more complete data, including sources, later. I flag them in my database as "duplicates" so that I can manually merge them in the Wiki. In this particular load there are 5 duplicates and 60 spouses and parents. In addition, there is a whole new family line included.

I understand your concerns about loading junk into the database, and fully agree. I am trying to work within your guidelines, and to develop a process that works for both of us.

Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the process?

Rick--RGMoffat 11:47, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for elaborating. I understand. Your item #1 seems a big problem. What is your software? Why are people flagged as living when they are not? Our import with flag as living people less than 110 yrs who have no death events. It also looks at relatives for clues when a person has no dates.

It does take a while getting everyone uploaded. I still have a lot to do.

I will upload your file now. --Judy (jlanoux) 12:36, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for understanding and uploading the file.

I use The Master Genealogist. It is a very powerful tool, and the problem may be user related. I will continue to experiment with the export function.

Rick--RGMoffat 12:42, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Did you find this Help page for setting up your export? Forgetting to include spouses as a last step is common in creating the Focus group. Leave a message if you need help with that. --Judy (jlanoux) 15:53, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Yourt.GED Imported Successfully [17 July 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 12:44, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [22 July 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded MISSING SPOUSES AND PARENTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 16:49, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

MISSING SPOUSES AND PARENTS.GED Imported Successfully [25 July 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 16:27, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

We Relate Featured Page - week of August 1, 2011 [2 August 2011]

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that your Person Page Mary Noack, has been selected as WeRelate's Featured Page for the week of August 1, 2011! This page was well-sourced, interesting and contained much useful information on her family. FYI - I slightly brightened up her photo, to make it a little more visible. Thanks much and keep up the good work!

Best regards,

Jim

Co-Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 16:35, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

I am honoured that you noticed my work and found it worth featuring.

I would like to thank all the volunteers that have helped me along the learning curve. It is a long and tedious process to load and review thousands of pages, but in the long run, I think it will be worth the effort.

Thanks to all, or as I have learned to say in Texas - "Thanks to y'all y'all."

Rick--RGMoffat 16:13, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

Doris I Poland [28 September 2011]

I have better picture of grave marker for above. It definitley shows 1990 as death date.

I'll pass along copy if you send me your email address.

The old address I have for you(rmoffat&mail.airmail.net)

Don Boland <bolandll@hotmail.com>--Don Boland 16:03, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

It has been a while since we last communicated. I now use gmail as rgmoffat.--RGMoffat 09:58, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, but I don't know how to get picture to you using gmail. Also I note there was an error in my original email address it should be <bolandll@hotmail.com>

Cannot create place correctly [12 September 2011]

I would like to rename the following cemetery page to reflect the current township name of "Brudenell, Lyndoch and Raglan", however when I try to create a place for the new township name, the system parses it as "Brudenell" located in "Lyndoch and Raglan.": Place:Rosenthal Wesleyan Cemetery, Rosenthal, Brudenell (township), Renfrew, Ontario, Canada

I have tried several different ways to create the palce without success. Can you help create the place for the amalgamated township so that it can be used in the Cemetery name?

Thanks--RGMoffat 14:34, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

The place pages in WR are titled as they were historically. It appears that Brudenell, Lyndoch and Raglan was established recently, in 2000. If the cemetery spans multiple townships, it can be renamed to exclude the township - such as Rosenthal Wesleyan Cemetery, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada. --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:57, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [5 October 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded MOFFAT FAMILY.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 12:27, 5 October 2011 (EDT)

MOFFAT FAMILY.GED Imported Successfully [7 October 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 17:41, 7 October 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 November 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 16:08, 23 November 2011 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 November 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY 1.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 23:11, 23 November 2011 (EST)

The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found [26 November 2011]

Today I tried to create sources for the 1920 and 1930 U S Census for Union, New Jersey, United States. After I had linked them to source records in the Gedcom I was preparing, I realized they were both titled something like "Union, New Sweden Colony..." I renamed both of these pages to reflect New Jersey, but have received email messages from JBS66 that neither of the pages could be found.

This message is to give you the background on this issue. I have submitted the Gedcom, and will deal with these sources when I encounter them during the review of the loaded records.--RGMoffat 17:12, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Hi Rick, I saw that you renamed the two census pages, but they were missing the words United States. I renamed them both after you did, which is why you received the automated messages. The pages are now: Source:Union, New Jersey, United States. 1920 U.S. Census Population Schedule and Source:Union, New Jersey, United States. 1930 U.S. Census Population Schedule. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:56, 25 November 2011 (EST)

My bad. Thanks for cleaning this up, as well as some other duplicates. I'll get the hang of this yet.--RGMoffat 22:46, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Your recent gedcom [26 November 2011]

Hi,

In reviewing your recent gedcom, I notice that you have a lot of marriages where only the husband or wife is listed, not both. Is this correct, or was there a problem importing your gedcom? If it's correct, that's fine, and I'll go ahead and import it. But I didn't want to import it if there was a problem somewhere and we didn't match the husbands and wives correctly.--Dallan 22:14, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Thanks for asking. I will have to do manual fixes, where required. I review all records once they are loaded.--RGMoffat 22:53, 25 November 2011 (EST)

I went ahead and imported it. You'll be notified as soon as it's ready.--Dallan 00:16, 26 November 2011 (EST)

RENWICK FAMILY 1.GED Imported Successfully [25 November 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 00:20, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Olive Grove Cemetery [17 December 2011]

I was going to add more information to the Olive Grove Cemetery page, but I could not find any information about it. There was no listing for it on the DeKalb County IL GenWeb, nor was there a listing on FindAGrave. It appears it should be Place:Ohio Grove Cemetery, Cortland, DeKalb, Illinois, United States. The DeKalb County GenWeb site has an index of people buried there, including Robert and Mary A. Renwick: [1]. In addition, Robert and Mary's daughter Mary is buried in Ohio Grove. If you agree, would you change Mary's page to Ohio Grove and delete the Ohio Grove page? Thanks. -- Amy (Ajcrow) 08:29, 4 December 2011 (EST)

I flagged the "Olive Grove Cemetery" page for a speedy delete. Thanks for catching this.--RGMoffat 18:48, 14 December 2011 (EST)

Thanks for taking care of that. -- Amy (Ajcrow) 07:30, 17 December 2011 (EST)

How do I add Line Breaks in Text box on Sources? [3 January 2012]

See Source:Canada GebWeb Cemetery Project - Fifty Cemetery

In the text, I added 4 URL's for the index pages for this website. They display as a single concatenated line which is difficult to read.--RGMoffat 19:33, 3 January 2012 (EST)

Add <br> where you want a line break. I went ahead and did that on the page for you. -- Amy (Ajcrow) 19:37, 3 January 2012 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 February 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY ADDITIONS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 15:09, 23 February 2012 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 February 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY ADDITIONS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 21:37, 23 February 2012 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 February 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY ADDITIONS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 22:22, 23 February 2012 (EST)

RENWICK FAMILY ADDITIONS.GED Imported Successfully [29 February 2012]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 14:32, 29 February 2012 (EST)

Place - Why was it redirected [18 April 2012]

Admin Goldenoldie recently redirected place Hamilton, Canada West, United Province of Canada to Hamilton, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada.

For events prior to July 1, 1867, this is inappropriate. I'm just wondering what the rationale was.

Thanks Rick

PS - Goldenoldie has been making lots of changes that I appreciate. As I have learned to say in Texas, "Y'all Y'all" work hard to make this site better.--RGMoffat 00:27, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Hi Rick, there was a conversation on the support page here that explains Goldenoldie's changes. --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:43, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [8 May 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded RENWICK FAMILY MISC MISSING MEMBERS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 13:13, 8 May 2012 (EDT)

RENWICK FAMILY MISC MISSING MEMBERS.GED Imported Successfully [9 May 2012]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 23:40, 9 May 2012 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [14 May 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded White Family.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 00:15, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [15 May 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded White Family.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 16:49, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [15 May 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded White Family.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 17:22, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

Adding a Template for Canadian Gravemarker Gallery [18 May 2012]

Using the Albert Street Cemetery in Arnprior, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada as a test case, I tried to add a link similar to the one for Find A Grave. It would link directly to a Cemetery page in the Canadian Gravemarker Gallery. It is not behaving the way I expected. When I initially set it up, it showed that a template needed to be created so I created one by editing the link. I am over my head so would appreciate some advice.

A couple of days ago I also created a template for the Atlas of Canada. It is not as complicated because it will not have variable links leading to unique home pages. I think it is OK.

What I envisioned is a link on a cemetery place page under Resources that would read "Canadian Gravemarker Gallery, followed by the name of the cemetery, which would link to a specific cemetery home page. For example, the Albert Street Cemetery is found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~murrayp/renfrew/mcnab/albert/index.htm

If I can get this working, I will go through the various cemetery places that I have set up and add the resource code.--RGMoffat 22:26, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

What is the standard for Census of England sources? [18 May 2012]

Is there a standard naming convention for census sources for England, Scotland, etc?

I expected to see something similar to the standard for Canada and the US, but a quick search did not show me the expected results.--RGMoffat 22:58, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

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in the Atlas of Canada, a search for Rosebank Ontario gives three hits. The following area in Ontario County appears to be the best option: http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/search/getFAPMapURL?feature_na=Rosebank&entity=UNP&location1=35&unique_key=0c4cdde6849c20c35ff7ad089cec1d23&lat=43.80351&long=-79.12048&origsearchstring=Rosebank%20Ontario

I will update the place page accordingly.

Rick

== Rosebank, marriage place of William Lockhart and Mary Renwick [9 June 2012] ==

Hello

I have no link with your family, but I am trying to sort out some of the geographical problems of the Durham area.

Looking at the map of Durham Region, Rosebank comes up as an "area" just about on the border of Pickering and Scarborough. This seemed peculiar for two people who appeared to be very much of Clarke Township. So I went over to Ancestry and inspected (maybe I should say, peered) at the image of the marriage registration. There, the "residence at marriage" for Mary Renwick is "Rosebank, Clarke". I am wondering if Rosebank was the name of the family farm.

Before I go altering the lat long coordinates for Rosebank I would appreciate your opinion. If you have found Rosebank Farm could you tell me its co-ords and I'll be glad to re-position it.

--goldenoldie 11:49, 9 June 2012 (EDT) (aka Pat)

Hagarty & Jones, Renfrew County [24 July 2012]

Are you sure the census division was Hagarty and Jones? The two townships are not next door to one another. The merger in 2000 included a united Hagarty and Richards (and Richards and Hagarty are neighbours) with Killaloe. Hagarty and Richards would make more sense. --goldenoldie 15:56, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

In the 1881 census Hagarty and Jones was a sub-district of Renfrew South. Go figure, maybe the boundaries were different at that time.

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wp template in a place [20 October 2012]

I tried to use the wp template in Place:Notre Dame Cemetery, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada and it did not work correctly. I defaulted back to the wp "other topics" format, but am wondering what the problem was with the following format (i have left out the double braces to avoid triggering the termplate in this topic:)

wp-Notre-Dame Cemetery (Ottawa)

I suspected that the brackets were the problem and tried to enclose them in quotes, but that did not work either.

Thanks Rick--RGMoffat 11:22, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

I think I have figured this out. I should not be creating the wp- template reference. Instead I should be adding the source reference and an automated process will copy in the text from Wikipedia.

I referred to http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Template:Source-wikipedia/doc

and should be using the following format: Place

source: Wikipedia on the page where you want the content to appear.--RGMoffat 10:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

hello from distant cousin [5 November 2012]

Thank you for your recent additions to the Crowell family ancestors. Much appreciated!--kath newc 11:16, 5 November 2012 (EST)

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Brisco/Briscoe family tree William Brisco/Briscoe Adamston Renfrew Ontario Canada [24 November 2012]

Is this person part of your family tree?--KB 18:22, 23 November 2012 (EST)

William Briscoe (1815-1899) is the grandfather of the husband of Matilda Augusta Ristau. Her family are relatives of mine.

My wife also has Brisco/Briscoe connections through her grandmother, Jane Watson nee Mayhew.

Rick--RGMoffat 20:29, 23 November 2012 (EST)

Rueben Briscoe/Brisco, William Briscoe/Briscoe Adamston Renfrew Ontario [24 November 2012]

Hello, I am a descendant of this family thru William and Caroline, down to Bryan and Rachel (Burgess) Briscoe/Brisco. Lesley Garner Briscoe is my grandfather, William is his grandfather. Rueben is one of my grandfather's brothers. I came across the gravestone of Caroline Ightman from a picture on Ancestry.ca which has been quoted in other sources as Hatman and Hightman. Found a picture of William as well. If you go to a Latter Day Saints Family Search Center the access to Ancestry.ca/uk is free. Apparently William according to information in my father's family had married twice. I have found some references in my research pointing to that. But I would like to find out who William and James parents were? Would you have any idea where I could find that out? Also was he born in Yorkshire and where was he christened. There are two family trees for James, William's brother who married Sara Taylor with two separate parents, one set says: Tamar Singleton and James Sr. the other tree for James and William leads to: John Brisco and Mary Evans. I met my great uncle Rueben and Aunt Tilly, (Matilda) as we called her when they came out from Saskatoon to visit my grandparents, my mom's family are all from the same area in N. Sask. where Joy Horner Brisco and Albert Horner lived, (Joy) Rueben and Tilly's daughter, nice to know there are people related to this family who are researching them as well as myself, its a needle in a haystack. One lady who researched James Brisco's (William's brother) even lived over in England for some time and did research there, she will get back to me after the American Holiday Thanksgiving with some of her notes, I will let you know from my other notes that are not on the computer what I have found out and also when I talk to a relative that has the bible from my grandfather's generation, (one of the brother's of my grandad's) daughter inlaw has some info in it. I followed the trail on the family search LDS site for James and William who had emmigrated to Renfrew Ontario Canada and as I have said, two separate parents for these two made things confusing. With what info on Ancestry.ca where a supposed newspaper death notice from the Renfrew Mercury newspaper quoted William Brisco/Briscoe in 1899 from Adamston Renfrew Ontario Canada, died and he had been born at Whittington, Westmoreland which would be on the border of Lancashire. Well, that tree with that lead contradicted info for parents of William, James with the other tree searched. Do not know for sure where he was born, but research this relative of Sara Taylor James wife conducted over in England pointed to Cumberland. Will know more when she gets home from the holidays. Keep in touch - K.--KB 21:31, 23 November 2012 (EST)

Changing all of the US Census Source Pages? [26 November 2012]

--Cos1776 11:33, 26 November 2012 (EST)

Yes, i noticed that on the category pages, many of the census source pages did not have a sub-category, so they end up in the alphabetical list under "S".

While I am at it I am also modifying the place so that "United States" is not part of the citation since it is already included as the "Census U.S. ..." Someone else had done this on several of the sources I reviewed, and I think it is a good idea.

And finally, I am putting in Ancestry and FamilySearch repositories.

If anyone else has "standard" suggestions, I will incorporate them into future revisions.

Rick

Changing all of the US Census Source Pages? [26 November 2012]

Hello - Can you tell me why you are removing the "United States" from the citation titles to all of the US census pages by piping in just county & state? Is this a new rule? I thought that the standards for naming censuses were already established. It seems like going in and changing each one like that just adds extra work and introduces the possibility of human error vs. just using the drop down to select the place name. Likewise, why are you piping in the county in the category template? Perhaps I have missed a memo somewhere... Thanks.--Cos1776 11:47, 26 November 2012 (EST)

If I am breaking a standard on the citation, I will go back and fix them, with apologies to the WeRelate community.

The piping on the category places the census sources in the correct alphabetical sequence on the category page.

Rick

Sorry about that, I guess I accidentally sent the topic above before typing the message... I understand what you are trying to accomplish. My biggest concern is in consistency across the board and the changing of the citation at the source page level. If this is an agreed upon change in policy, then it should be applied to every US census record source page from now on and they will all appear that way automatically. If it is just a matter of style and you do not like the way that the citation appears on the pages that you are working on, then you could pipe in the style change on whichever individual page you wish in the source box on that page. That way, it does not automatically change the format for others who are not using that style. But, once again, that seems like a lot of bother when there is already an agreed upon format in place.

Thanks for Cleaning up my Sources! [26 November 2012]

I appreciate you cleaning up my sources. Am I not putting the place in correctly? RC--Rebekah Carlisle 19:23, 26 November 2012 (EST)

The Place is correct. I have been adding the "sort code" to the Category so that on the Source Category page the census source pages are in alphabetical order.

For example, Category:1870 Indiana census would be changed to Dearborn if the page was for Dearborn County. If you click on the 1870 Indiana Census link at the bottom of the page, you will see the results.

Thank you. I thought that the sort was automatically added by what was typed in the place. I will make a note to start adding the place sort on my new sources. RC--Rebekah Carlisle 19:47, 26 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the general rule is that sort keys are not added to census pages. The help page does not show a sort key in the instructions, and the vast majority of the census pages do not have sort keys added. The thinking has been that pages within a category like Category:1930 Texas census sort alphabetically anyway (albeit under the letter S). Since changing all of the census pages would be a monumental task, the recommendation has been to not use a sort key. --Jennifer (JBS66) 19:56, 26 November 2012 (EST)

Thanks for the note Jennifer. You are always a great help.

I had read a similar comment today on the help pages, but most pages I have looked at have a combination of some with and some without sort keys. You are right, it would be a huge job to change all of them. I happened to be hitting a new batch of sources as I reviewed my latest Gedcom upload, so decided to make the category pages I encounter consistent. Would it be better if I take the sort keys out when I see them?

You are welcome. I left a message on the WeRelate talk:Source patrol page for additional clarification. Since other categories (like Cemeteries) do use sort keys, I want to make sure which method we should suggest going forward. --Jennifer (JBS66) 20:29, 26 November 2012 (EST)

B C Vital records Images [5 December 2012]

Thanks for alerting me to the vital records of B C images online. Mildred Burtch Morton was my first cousin once removed.--Jmp 12:42, 5 December 2012 (EST)

Canada East [21 December 2012]

Your comment on talk page yesterday:

By using the category in effect today, all places regardless of historic political differences would be in one place.

Just a thought.

Rick--RGMoffat 12:39, 20 December 2012 (EST)

Might be fine if I could get my head around categories. I have been trying to figure out the concept for months.

The nitty gritty of Canada East is that we have to be able to name the place

• New France until 1763
• Quebec, colony of Great Britain, 1763-1791
• Lower Canada, 1791-1841
• Canada East, 1841-1867
• Quebec (preferably with an acute accent), 1867-the present

Don't know whether you saw my request on the Place Patrol the other day. The following is further thoughts that are only coming into my head as I write.

The above list looks simple, until we remember that we have to bring in that difficult word "colony" until 1791, or consider Quebec to be a highest level place and that can only be established by an administrator. If we bring in "colony" then Quebec shows itself as a contained place under modern-day France and Great Britain. I wonder if we could persuade the administrators to establish a policy involving two names for Britain, France and other nations that had overseas colonies--one name to be used for places physically within it (i.e., England) and another for overseas colonies and dependencies (i.e. Great Britain, or maybe British Empire). For France, I suppose we could use "Kingdom of France" and "Republic of France"--'though I bet there is something better hiding out there in French history, something like France exterieur--, but the dates would be just about right. Must look and see what our Netherlands--Indonesia group have done about the problem.

Actually I am holding off introducing a family until I can get the placenames right both in Quebec and Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland (and, at the moment, until Christmas is over).

Greetings of the season to you
--(Pat) goldenoldie 02:47, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Maitland/Butts Family [25 January 2013]

Would love to discuss the Maitland/Butts Family with you.

Kyle--Keddinger 20:54, 24 January 2013 (EST)

Most of my Maitland research stems from my Moffat/Renwick family research. Do we intersect anywhere in what you have seen here in WR?

Rick--RGMoffat 22:03, 24 January 2013 (EST)

My connection would be through Cora Butts Maitland. I have come across a couple photos of her line.--Keddinger 22:18, 24 January 2013 (EST)

So when you say you would like to discuss, what do you have in mind. Can you add to anything on her page, or her children? I see that I can upload some info on George since he was born in 1902, but what about Lester. Do you know if he is still living?

I have no personal knowledge of the family. Just what I have gleaned during my research.--RGMoffat 22:49, 24 January 2013 (EST)

George (Wilfred) Arthur Wallace [2 April 2013]

Archives of Ontario. Registrations of Births and Stillbirths – 1869-1913. MS 929, reels 1-245. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Archives of Ontario. Geo Wilfred Arthur Wallace Date of Birth: 24 May 1902 Gender: Male Birth County or District: Grey Father's Name: Russell Wilfred Richd Wallace Mother's name: Mary Jane Walter Archive Name: Archives of Ontario Archive Series: MS929 Archive Reel: 158

I can connect to the Wallace family through his grandmother Coulter. I cant much help on the rest of the line. did Mary Howson and Clifford divorce? I see he has another wife (at least he does on his gravestone) lhess@shaw.ca I cant figure out how to add stuff here. My tree is on Ancestry.--Lilyione 23:34, 1 April 2013 (EDT)