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[add comment] [edit] WelcomeWelcome to WeRelate, your virtual genealogical community. We're glad you have joined us. At WeRelate you can easily create ancestor web pages, connect with cousins and other genealogists, and find new information. To get started:
If you need any help, I will be glad to answer your questions. Just click on my signature link below and then click on the “Leave a message” link under my name in the upper left corner of my profile page. Thanks for participating and see you around! Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:11, 1 August 2010 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Welkom [15 November 2011]Welkom bij WeRelate, uw virtuele genealogische gemeenschap. Fijn dat u zich heeft aangemeld! Met WeRelate kunt u gemakkelijk webpagina's van uw voorouders maken, contact opnemen met andere genealogen en nieuwe informatie vinden.
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Dank je wel voor dit warme welkom........;-)--henk 13:07, 15 November 2011 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Thanks for Knot/Knott gedcom [8 August 2010]Hi, Henk, I see you got the gedcom up. That was much faster than I expected. I merged a few more pages. I hope you don't mind. They're mostly from the generation when people were adding family names to patronyms, and the computer doesn't catch those very well. It's interesting to see how the family continues. I hope you are able to contact relatives in Michigan.--GayelKnott 23:02, 7 August 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Person:Baukje De Swart (1) [9 September 2010]Henk, when you have a moment, can you take a look at Person:Baukje De Swart (1)? She was part of your GEDCOM upload, but I think she is connected to the wrong family. However, if we remove her from Family:Ate Veltman and Frietzen Van Der Ploeg (1), she is no longer connected to any page on WR. Seems like she needs a proper home.... :-) --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:35, 8 September 2010 (EDT) hoi, I just had a moment ;-) What I found on Baukje de Swart, born around 1902, married after 1953 to Ate Veltman (Ate Veltman's first wife died in 1953) she died 16 oct 1989 in Leeuwarden I found the announcement on www.dekrantvantoen.nl you can search this site with the terms: familieberichten name--henk 04:03, 9 September 2010 (EDT) Henk, bedankt voor de informatie! I made Ate and Baukje their own family page here: Family:Ate Veltman and Baukje De Swart (1) - you will probably want to add it to your tree by clicking on Trees in the Left Menu. --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:20, 9 September 2010 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Forum page [21 October 2010]Hallo Henk, I noticed you are not watching WeRelate talk:Forum (Nederlands). I'm hoping that it becomes a page where users interested in Dutch research can discuss various issues and ask questions. So... be sure to "Watch" if you'd like to be notified of changes! Dank u wel, --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:07, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
Stupid me :-)), I´ll take a look (or 2)......
[add comment] [edit] Duplicate Family [28 November 2010]Hallo Henk, I noticed that you have a family that appears to be a duplicate of one that User:Ekjansen has. Family:Geert Ludema and Jelkjen Egberts (1) and Family:Geert Lulofs and Jelkje Egberts (1). Is it possible for you to work with Klaas to merge this family? I'll leave this note on his talk page as well. Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:57, 27 November 2010 (EST) it is the same! of course I like to merge --henk 03:35, 28 November 2010 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Grand Rapids City Directory [6 December 2010]Hoi Henk, I was just looking at the Grand Rapids City Directory for 1911, and I see there are 2 Beiboer's listed. Not sure who they match up to though... Google Books --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:42, 6 December 2010 (EST) Hey Jennifer, Last week I was reading about the ferry from Rotterdam to New York, it took 7 days and communication was only by mail and look at us: we mail, chat, skype, etc in seconds! But I know this city directory and both are familiar, about the last one Sytze I just wrote last week on my blog.
Thanks ;) Though I find it difficult to write in English and myself i think it's rather amateuristic(?) I can do better (I think) and I'm pleased with critics--henk 09:58, 6 December 2010 (EST)
Oh my, you're a perfectionist to..? :-)
hmmm, thanks, I know that's my problem: being to hard on myself.... Do you know the inaugural speech of Nelson Mandela (Marianne Williamson)? I often find my inspiration in this text--henk 10:32, 6 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Alteveer,Hoogeveen, Drenthe, Netherlands [16 November 2012]Hallo Henk, there are 3 people that reference Alteveer,Hoogeveen, Drenthe, Netherlands in your gedcom. I think they were buried in Place:Alteveer, Onstwedde, Groningen, Netherlands instead. Alteveer is in the gemeente of Stadskanaal now. A page for one of them from Graftombe [1] shows at the top Groningen » Stadskanaal » Alteveer alg. If you agree, I can edit your gedcom to connect to the existing Alteveer page instead. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:47, 26 December 2010 (EST) hoi Jennifer, yes, I know where Alteveer ls ;-) (it's 10 miles from where I live) and I think i made a mistake there the Hulzebos is from Alteveer Groningen, but my partners family has several members in the Alteveer Drenthe region. but I feel "encumbered" when you have to correct all my mistakes ;( That is funny, of course you'd know where Alteveer is. Silly of me to explain in such detail... There is no need for you to feel bad about mistakes! That's why I'm a volunteer here - I like the Dutch side of things, and I like to help. So, about Alteveer. Maybe what we can do is fix the pages when the file is uploaded. Right now, Pietertje Kiel, Johanna Roelfsema, and Willemtje Veen all say they died in Alteveer (Hoogeveen), Drenthe, Netherlands. When the file is uploaded, you can edit those people to point to the correct place page. I see you made all of your family matches. When you are all done reviewing the file, go to the Import tab and press Ready to Import. That will alert me that you are ready to have me process it. doei, --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:09, 26 December 2010 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Two Persons to Track [6 May 2012]Henk, I've got some people I'd like your help with. First, I'm looking for the family of Jennie Noteboom. I'm pretty sure her father is Balten Noteboom, but the only link I have that Lena van der Weele is her mother is that the birth month matches and the birth year is off by a year. Are you convinced? The other person I'd like to find is Jennie, the wife of Jan Blok. They are first on the list of Lynden CRC charter members, so I would very much like to find them. But I don't have much to go on. Many thanks for any help you can give on these. --Pkeegstra 19:57, 5 May 2012 (EDT) I'll see what I can do--henk 02:23, 6 May 2012 (EDT) The first 1 is solved : on the talk pages of Jennie Noteboon, Balton Noteboom and Lena van der Weele you may find my "discoveries" at the end you were correct it was Lena van der Weele, but she was born as Lena de Puijt her mother remarried with van der Weele. The second 1 will be more difficult (I think)--henk 05:11, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
Oh, and now I'm looking for a Hendrik Hop born about Feb 1850; I've determined it's not the obvious one from GENLIAS born in 1851. GENLIAS has lots of them, but not many right around 1850. --Pkeegstra 06:44, 6 May 2012 (EDT) well let me first the John Block search ;-) I think I found the most of it yet, do you think what I found so far is right?--henk 06:47, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Looking for the Netherlands Birth Record of August Van Strat [16 November 2012]I have another one for you which so far has been a tough one. August Van Strat is the grandfather of a friend of mine; unfortunately, she never learned too much about his origins. What I learned from her is on his talk page. --Pkeegstra 19:58, 21 May 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Willem Nykamp and Aaltje Seinen [16 November 2012]Henk, I have set myself a goal today to work on townships in West Michigan, but I found a good site for Willem Nykamp and Aaltje Seinen if you would be interested in running with it. (Looks like a good reference for other Drenthe and Overijssel immigrants too.) --Pkeegstra 10:53, 9 June 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Hessel Kamminga [3 July 2012]Do you perhaps want the occupation "pakhuisknecht" to go with second Hessel Kamminga, who lived to adulthood, rather than first Hessel Kamminga? --Pkeegstra 13:44, 3 July 2012 (EDT) litt;e mistake I think ;-)--henk 14:04, 3 July 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Which Huizenga is Agatha? [27 July 2012]Agatha Huizinga married Jakob Koning in 1909. Her parents are definitely Jan Huizinga and Elisabet Houwenga as per the Michigan marriage record. That says she was born about 1840 (death certificate says 16 Jun 1839), but she is definitely not Rolfke, who was already married. Is there an earlier daughter? All the children listed other than Rolfke died way too young. BTW, it looks like this is Agatha's death certificate. --Pkeegstra 19:58, 25 July 2012 (EDT) Thanks for tracking down Agatha. I was hoping she was married to Tjapko's brother, but it doesn't look that way. His only brother other than his namesake who died in infancy is named Jacob (and he dies unmarried at age 39), so no brother Willem. And there are a long list of persons named Willem Dekker born 1835 - 1840. William Dekker died on 8 Dec 1893; unfortunately one record does not list his parents' names and the other explicitly lists them as unknown. Assuming they did the math right, we can infer that his birth month was April. There is a Willem Dekker (WeRelate page) born in Bedum in April. He is the only Willem Dekker born in Groningen in April 1937-1939. He is not a first cousin of Tjapko, which would have been convenient. --Pkeegstra 17:11, 26 July 2012 (EDT) It looks that he could be the one, His initials are W.J. so Jacob would be possible, when he died he was 54 so I think he married in the Netherlands, that's wheree I will start this search, marriage, immigration, etc. Where do you want me to add my notes? on Willem Dekker's talk page?--henk 13:09, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] My Latest Quest [27 August 2012]Henk, Now that I finally resolved my highest priority, showing that [[Person:Teuntje Pippel (1)|Teuntje Pippel] is Matilda, I can move on to my next highest priority, finding "Marines Konigh". All I know is from the Michigan marriage record I transcribed on the talk page for Gezina Schols (1857). This has stumped me for over a year, so assistance will be appreciated. --Pkeegstra 14:04, 27 August 2012 (EDT) P.S. Another thing I'll be working on presently is the Horlings. I think some of the entries there are duplicates, so I will use the talk page to systematically sift through the evidence to figure out who is who. And of course I'll be watching your progress in enumerating all the emigrants from Groningen..... [add comment] [edit] My Latest Mystery: Which Twin is Which? [9 September 2012]If you want a new challenge, I'm trying to connect the Americanized names of a pair of twins with their Netherlands birth names. --Pkeegstra 14:01, 8 September 2012 (EDT) I found a web page which resolved which twin is which. But the same web page hints at a connection between Wietske Piers Tanja of the Rozendals and Gerlof Piers Tanja of my Bouma line, so that's what I'm working now. According to the Ancestry private family tree of my Bouma cousin the trees do line up, so the question then becomes one of finding independent sources for WeRelate. --Pkeegstra 06:28, 9 September 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Two Groningers Born About 1812 in New Jersey [6 October 2012]Henk, I think I have two Groningers (from Leens) in New Jersey. Does it look right to you? Thanks, --Pkeegstra 10:37, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Indonesië [29 October 2012]Hoi Henk het wordt een rotzooitje wanneer alles op de overlegpagina van Indonesië moet gaan komen. Wanneer dat de bedoeling is stop ik gelijk met mijn idee Indonesië. Stel dat we al het overleg over Nederland op de overlegpagina Nederland zouden moeten zetten. Ik was juist zo blij met jou initiatief. Ik had er zelfs al geschreven, maar nog niet opgeslagen. Dat ga ik daar op die pagina, als nog doen. Groet, Lidewij 13:17, 27 October 2012 (EDT) Hoi, Ik denk het juist niet, Indonesie is geen algemeen onderwerp wat op het discussie forum geplaatst moet worden, ik ben het wel met je eens dat de Nederlandse gebruikers op de hoogte moeten zijn dat jij met Indonesie bezig bent, dat kan o.a. door het onderwerp op het discussieforum te laten staan, met een verwijzing naar deze pagina. Ook ergens anders (waar weet ik nog niet) moet er ovezricht zijn. 'Mijn" initiatief blijft gewoon overeind, alleen voor dit onderwerp op de genoemde plek en ik wil nog steeds graag met je meekijken en hoop dat je niet meteen de handdoek in de ring gooit. Overigens zijn alleen Klaas en ik de enigen die iets met Indonesie doen,;-) groetjes --Henk 13:29, 27 October 2012 (EDT) Henk, ik was maar even boodschappen gaan doen. Ik was zeer teleurgesteld. Ik was juist in mijn nopjes met jou initiatief. Vandaag was ik ook al zelf begonnen met een soort opzet, ook de provincies.:-) Maar goed geen (breder gedragen) project Indonesië dus. Op de Place talk:Indonesië hoort volgens mij Engels als voertaal en dat ga ik niet doen. Het bericht dat op de overlegpagina van JBR was geschreven kwam pas om 19.49. Ik vind dat Indonesië niet te vergelijken is met Schotland, niet qua oppervlakte en niet qua inwoners.
eerste even een paar kleine misverstandjes uit de weg ruimen: - de voertaal op de Talk page hoeft niet persé Engels te zijn, Jennifer heeft hem aangemaakt en zijn kan er niets an doen dat de programmatuur geen Nederlandse versie heeft, waardoor de naam in het Engels is. Ik heb er zelf al Indonesie van gemaakt. - het project wordt zo breed mogelijk gedragen, alleen zijn Klaas, Jij en ik, momenteel, de enige 3 gebruikers van WeRelate die hierin geinteresseerd zijn en ik dan ook nog in beperkte mate. van Klaas weet ik het niet. - ik ben me er heel erg van bewust dat anderen je werk zo weer ongedaan kunnen maken, of nog erger, ik heb daarom ook echt behoorlijk getwijfeld of ik WeRelate wilde gaan gebruiken en heb eigenlijk ook totaal geen zin om met andere "dingen" dan met met eigen projecten bezig te zijn en zelfs daarvoor maak ik continu backups voor mijn website, - eigenlijk als ik er nu zo over nadenk, is dit dus wel weer een onderwerp voor Nederlandse Kletsplatform :-) - volgens mij gaat het helemaal goedkomen met Indonesië en heb het idee dat je ook helemaal niet op (ongevraagd) advies zit te wachten, maar probeer het gestructureerd te houden, top down (sorry, van bovenaf) - sterkte ;-) --henk 04:06, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
Ik kwam in mijn laatste 2 gedcoms: nageslacht van Hugo de Groot en nageslacht van Johan van Oldenbarnevelt, nogal veel Indonesische plaatsnamen tegen. En het is werkelijk soms vrijwel onmogelijk de juiste plaats te vinden, dat ik soms de Nederlandse naam laat staan en dan met bijv Jawa, Indonesia verlink. Dan wordt de plaats tenminste niet rood. Dat alles met de idee - later bekijk ik dat nog wel in detail. Maar of daar wat van komt... Het initiatief Indonesia begroet ik, want voor de komende generaties zegt dat koloniale verleden nog veel minder. Nog een vraag (wat je ook kunt verstaan als een half antwoord) is de oude koloniale administratieve indeling ook te achterhalen? Als dat kan zou je de Nederlandstalige naam Buitenzorg, Koloniale administratieve regio, Eventueel nog een grootregio, Indonesia. moeten worden ingevuld. Maar daar kan ik niet zo erg veel bijdragen. Ik zou als land altijd Indonesia gebruiken, dat is een WeRelate-conventie. Niet Insulinde, Nederlandsch Oost-Indië of Indonesië. Daarover kunnen we dan weer discussiëren.--Klaas (Ekjansen) 12:35, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
Ik heb deze discussie gekopieerd en naar [[2]] verplaatst. Op 'mijn'talk page wil ik me graag beperken tot de onderwerpen die betrekking hebben op mij en mijn onderzoek, :-) hartelijke groet --henk 03:58, 29 October 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] [13 November 2012]Henk, I have two mystery immigrants from Friesland for us to puzzle over. One is in the 1900 census for "Peeter Jaager"; Mary, age 15 (Sep 1885), is older than the marriage of Peter and Sara in 1891 and does not show up as a child of either. (And can't possibly be the granddaughter of either.) The other is in the 1910 census for "Peter Jaeger"; brother Alburtis born about 1863 does not have a birth record (I could find), but there is a hole in the family where he might fit. Any ideas? If while you are looking you find proof of Tytje Faber or Geert Venema in America, that would be great too. (It seems odd to me that Feikje is using the name Jager, not Venema, in 1910, except that everyone else in her household is Jager.) --Pkeegstra 17:15, 12 November 2012 (EST) - Mary: I couldn't find any other trace from her then the 1905 census, but looking at the original 1900 census, it looks if it says DopDaughter and in my opinion that could mean adoptive daughter so I was wondering - Albertus: I found his Birth : [3] - Tytje Faber I'm 90 % sure she never set foot outside the Netherlands - Geert Venema: well let's say 80% sure - I think she just the name of the man who's head of the house instead of her maiden namen, maybe she just forgot it --henk 08:40, 13 November 2012 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Christian Enno Haan [15 November 2012]Speaking of Indonesia, one of the people I'm trying to track down seems to have been born there. Christian Enno Haan was supposedly born in Batavia on 23 Jan 1878, son of Enno Haan and Kristina Krijgsman. Where would I even begin to look for birth records? I'm also having some trouble tracking down his wife born in Netherlands, whose last name is different every place I see it in American records [4]. Any ideas? Many thanks! --Pkeegstra 06:20, 15 November 2012 (EST) I adde some information to the Talk pages 1. I don't think you will find birth records of Batavia at least I can't find them. but it is certain that his father was there in that period with his mother so it will be 95 % sure that he was born there. 2. the birth record of Kristina Krijgsman: see her talkpage have a nice day :-) --henk 08:34, 15 November 2012 (EST) Thank you so much! The material you found is great! --Pkeegstra 17:40, 15 November 2012 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Groninger Emigranten [5 dec 2012]Dag Henk, Ik zag je berichtje van de emigranten bij Jennifer. Ik klikte zo maar een jaartal (1866) aan. Hier vroeg ik me af hoe je de schema’s maakt? Copier je die van uit een bestaan bestand? Dit omdat namen die achter elkaar op een regel staan, geloof ik niets met elkaar te maken hebben. Wat is je doel wat je wilt bereiken? Alleen een lijst met namen van personen die bij Allegroningers vermeld staan, waar je door kan linken wanneer de persoon in WeRelate is opgenomen? Wat doe je met de Groningers die niet op deze lijst staan? (Person:Klazina Bos (1)) Groet,--Lidewij 09:51, 4 December 2012 (EST) -Je klikte precies het jaartal aan waar ik een beetje mee worstelde het zijn 367 personen, ik kon ze allemaal onder elkaar zetten, maar dat werd een beetje erg lang,1867 heeft bijvoorbeeld nog veel meer. Dus ik heb ze eerst maar verdeelt over 8 kolommen. heb je een tip hoe ik dit beter kan doen? Bijvoorbeeld zou ik de kolommen met achternamen een kleur kunnen geven en de koptekst verduidelijken. - Mijn doel? Alle geregistreerde Groninger emigranten tussen 1847 en 1901 koppelen (linken) aan reeds ingevoerde Groningers en/of toevoegen - Voorlopig wil ik alleen alles wat op AlleGroningers is vermeld opnemen, maar als je ideeén hebt? --henk 10:11, 4 December 2012 (EST) Zie User:Lidewij/Zandbakje --Lidewij 18:13, 4 December 2012 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Hank Drenth [9 dec 2012]Hallo Henk, Bent u familie van deze Hank? http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Hank_Drenth_%281%29
Hoi Kevin, nee totaal niet ;-) --henk 07:37, 9 December 2012 (EST) oke, waarom wil je heb wel volgen dan?--Kdrost 07:38, 9 December 2012 (EST) nooud dat zal ik je uitleggen: ik ben bezig met alle Groninger emigranten op WeRelate te inventariseren en toe te voegen Groninger Emigranten en daar hoort deze familie ook bij, dus als ik er 1 tegenkom dat voeg ik mezelf toe --henk 07:44, 9 December 2012 (EST) Aha, oke, dan weet ik voldoende! [add comment] [edit] Challenge: Harke Hellinga and Samuel Terpstra [24 December 2012]Question from someone I know: You're not related to the Hellingas from Giekerk or the Terpstras from that area, too, are you? That would be Geert Hellinga and Samuel Terpstra or his dad, Michael. It could also be Gerrit instead of Harke. I'm trying to find relatives to visit before we fly over there in April. So far no luck.--henk 06:13, 21 December 2012 (EST) -- Added 2 famliytrees, case closed so far
[add comment] [edit] GRONEM1848.ged Imported Successfully [31 December 2012]Registered Groninger Emigrants 1848 (475 persons) source www.allegroningers still 52 years to go! [add comment] [edit] GRONEM1849.ged Imported Successfully [31 December 2012]WWW.allegroningers.nl emigranten 1849: 209 persons [add comment] [edit] GRONEM1851.ged Imported Successfully [31 December 2012]source www.allegroningers/emigranten 24 persons btw Gronem1850 had 32 persons
[add comment] [edit] puzzle: Jan Johannes Gastma [5 January 2013]De voorouders van mijn grootmoeder Ytje Spoelstra. Zij is de dochter van Jan Jans Spoelstra, die weer de zoon was van Jan Johannes Spoelstra. Deze Jan Johannes was getrouwd met Sytske Jans Gatsma. Deze kwam ik tegen op je site. Ik beschik over een kwartierstaat (zonder bronnen) waar de vader van Sytske Gastma, net als bij jou, Jan Johannes Gastma wordt genoemd. Edoch volgens mijn kwartierstaat is deze Jan Johannes Gastma geboren in maart 1775 en niet zoals bij jou, en op andere sites, in 1760. Het zou kunnen zijn dat de vader van Jan Johannes Gastma, die volgens mijn kwartierstaat Johannes Jeens Gastma (Gastmer) heette, 3 keer getrouwd is geweest, en uit die relaties verschillende zonen heeft met dezelfde naam. Jan Johannes Gastma, de man van Pietje Jans Wadman, zou uit het tweede huwelijk stammen van Johannes Jeens Gastma met ene Wytske Jans. En mogelijk stamt er uit het eerste huwelijk van hem met Systke Jans nog een Jan Johannes. Kortom een ingewikkeld verhaal, maar hopelijk kun je er wijs uit worden. Misschien kun je je licht hierover laten schijnen.--henk 10:14, 2 January 2013 (EST) Opgelost!!
Source www.allegroningers.nl 38 emigrants and their family [add comment] [edit] The 1847 Groninger Emigrants [7 January 2013]My first blog about the 1847 immigrants: groninger-and-frisian immigrants [add comment] [edit] Jakomina Hoeksema [12 January 2013]Henk, Do you have any information on her in terms of siblings? Sorry to ask, but since she is from Groningen and you said you are doing research on all people from that are I thought you might have something. Thanks in advance Sam--Parkave777 20:24, 11 January 2013 (EST)
Hi P. ;-) I already added some questions on Person talk:Gerard Hoeksema (1) --henk 07:39, 12 January 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] GRONEM1853.ged Imported Successfully [16 January 2013]The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:
For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.
[add comment] [edit] Van Arsdalen family [23 January 2013]Hi. I see that you have uploaded to the pages for some of the Van Arsdalens. Thanks for sharing. If you can, will you please help clean up duplication and add sources to the pages. I have also been working on this as I can. Most of my good research was not typed into the computer yet. If you are interested in the family, I have started working on an outline page to make it easier for people to see where their family appears among the several Van Arsdalen lines. It is currently on [this user page], but I can move it to a public article page if you would like to contribute. Thanks. --Judy (jlanoux) 11:44, 21 January 2013 (EST)
though it is not really my area (the early Dutch settlers), I got curious because I 'met" an van Arsdale descendant on Facebookand read about the family.
User:Jlanoux is Source:Vanguard: The Newsletter of the Van Aersdalen Family Association (1998-2003) (Charles R. Vanorsdale)a reliable source --henk 15:19, 22 January 2013 (EST)
Charles did good work, but a newsletter contains much data submitted by others. So I would say "use with care". His series "The Delta Project" was an attempt to get the first few generations adequately documented. I think there may still be some questions. He has made the newsletters available online.
Made a 'project page" van Arsdale project --henk 03:52, 23 January 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Albert Coertse van Voorhees [24 January 2013]While working on the van Arsdalen's, I came accross Albert Coertse van Voorhees from Hees, Ruinen, Drenthe and as you know I'm working on Groninger Emigrants but have an interest in Emigrants from Drenthe. On one of the websites I use I came accross a letter written to Person:Coerte Van Voorhees (1) by his cousin Person:Albert van Voorhees (1) --henk 06:56, 24 January 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Somerset and Raritan, New Jersey [11 February 2013]I finally got some time to investigate why there are neighboring boroughs in New Jersey named Somerville and Raritan. It looks like the Dutch settlement (Raritan) was absorbed by the English crossroads settlement Somerville as it grew, and the borough is the true successor to both. Modern Raritan reuses the name, but is not the successor to the Dutch settlement. --Pkeegstra 06:24, 11 February 2013 (EST) P.S. I liked your link to the Reformed Church in Somerville, so I repeat it here for reference. The Reformed Church in America (RCA) is the actual corporate successor to the historic Dutch Reformed Church from New Amsterdam times. [add comment] [edit] Requesting your views... [26 February 2013]I'm trying to put together some practices for dealing with situations where surnames do not follow present-day customary practice of the last-name == surname == family name. I'm doing a lot of work with European Nobles and Royals, and found myself increasingly annoyed at the useless generation of categories, particularly for name strings that - in general - really were not modern inheriting family-name/surnames. So I wrote this document to try to both up front about practices I was following as well as to try to generate some discussion. Thought you might have some experience in this area (I certainly don't!). Best Regards, --jrm03063 19:07, 26 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Next step: Review your GEDCOM [6 March 2013]Familytree Person:Sytze Roorda Van Eysinga (4) [add comment] [edit] Minor Mystery [24 March 2013]In their Michigan marriage record, Jan Schut and Aaltje Arendse both claim to be from Gelderland. But the best fit for Aaltje Arendse is a person born in Friesland. Is this merely a mistake in the marriage license, or is there somethig more to this, like say, that her parents moved to Gelderland when she was young. Or is it my mistake, that I have the wrong Aaltje Arendse? --Pkeegstra 21:02, 20 March 2013 (EDT) This Aaltje died 2 months later, so you must have the wrong 1 --henk 06:35, 21 March 2013 (EDT)
Your Aaltje was 15 when she married Jan Schut, so it would be logic that she knew the family and came from Doornspijk too --henk 06:40, 21 March 2013 (EDT) How close is Harderwijk to Doornspijk? I have an Aaltjen Arendsen of the right birth month and year, and she and both her parents vanish from the Netherlands registry just after the year she is born. --Pkeegstra 21:36, 23 March 2013 (EDT) 20 kilometers, so about 17 Miles --henk 03:33, 24 March 2013 (EDT) On 8 aug 1867 the ship Hibernian arrived at the port of Quebec with a Wim Arendsen, age 28, and his wife age 30 :-)--henk 03:55, 24 March 2013 (EDT)
No she isn't but,but I don't know if baby's under 1 are listed [*] Born in Netherlands is of course what I meant. So it looks pretty good that Aaltje Arendse is Aaltjen Arendsen, so I'll merge them sometime this week. P.S. I found a web page by one of his descendents, and learned that Morren and his second wife emigrated too. --Pkeegstra 15:58, 24 March 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Johanna Mol [5 June 2013][add comment] [edit] Jan Alderts [31 August 2013]I hope this note finds you well. Jan Alderts chr.28 SEP 1777 Siddeburen, Slochteren, Groningen, Nederland I have been trying to make a connection in my tree. Could the above person be related to: m: Ida Jakobs father of: Anje Jans Alderts (who married Jan Alberts Velthuis) I found the marriage document for Anje and Jan, but cannot find anything going back far enough to confirm if it is the same Jan Alderts. Karen Syed--KarenLSyed 20:54, 30 August 2013 (EDT) From what I can find, Jan Alderts and Ida Jacobs were married 23-12-1787, which would have made the Jan you are looking at 10. Also, Anje Jans born to Jan Alderts and Ida (Itje) Jacobs Christening was 26-10-1788. I am sure Henk will be able to check this and let you know for sure.--Parkave777 07:02, 31 August 2013 (EDT) KarenLSyed,Parkave777 is absolutely right, I think it has to be like this: Family:Jan Alderts and Ida Jakobs (1)--henk 08:21, 31 August 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] [16 September 2013]Goede morgen HenkCS Even voorstellen: Mijn naam is Wim Brouwers(brouwerswim@home.nl)Ik probeer al een poosje mijn opa Walterus Brouwers'amerikaans avontuur wat boven water te krijgen. Mijn mogelijkheden lijken te zijn uitgeput. Maar daar krijg ik in eens u, als volger, in beeld!! Bent u misschien ook familie?? Kunt u de reden van uw belangstelling bekend maken. Ik zou hier erg blij mee zijn! Voorlopig vast bedankt en mogelijk tot ziens of horens. Wim Brouwers--Wimbrouwers 03:55, 15 September 2013 (EDT) Ook goede morgen: nee hoor, 't is eigenlijk heel simpel, Jennifer en ik zijn zowel bevriend als collega's geneageeksen we kijken graag over elkaars schouder mee en soms kan ik iets aanvullen :-) groet --henk 04:12, 15 September 2013 (EDT) Ik heb trouwens nog wel een vraag: Ik kwam een John Bernard Brouwers tegen, geboren op 28 Sep 1926 en overleden op 28 Sep 1994 in San Diego California met als naam van de moeder van Maren, weet u wie dit is? Jammer Henk, dat je geen familie bent en me ook niet veel kunt helpen met mijn Opa Walterus. Je vraag over John Bernard Brouwers: Twee broers van Walterus zijn ook naar Amerika geëmigreerd: Cornelis en Jacobus. Cornelis Petrus Maria (Kees) 1868-1940, deed dat in 1910 met vrouw en 5 kinderen, waaronder twee zoons Jacobus 1894 en Ludovicus 1898 Zij zouden mogelijk de vader van John Bernard kunnen zijn als je naar hun leeftijden kijkt! Maar een probleem zal zijn, dat hun moeder Maria Francisca Theresia Josephina van Belle heette!! 1866-1943. De andere broer van Walterus heette Jacques (Jacobus) Corneille Maria van hem zijn mij geen kinderen bekend. Beide broers zijn ook al in Werelate te vinden. In ieder geval bedankt voor je moeite en ik probeer weer wat meer te weten te komen over de twee vrouwen waarmee Walterus in Amerika het leven deelde. (Zie mijn vraag aan Jennifer!) Met vriendelijke groet: WimBrouwers--Wimbrouwers 03:25, 16 September 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Image:Jurgen_streelman.jpg [20 September 2013]I apologize - there was a glitch tonight and I lost your recently-uploaded photo. You can go here: Image:Jurgen_streelman.jpg to re-upload it. Again, my apologies.--Dallan 09:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC) Thxs, no need to :-) I hope the problems are over now [add comment] [edit] Jongebloed and Nordmann of Papenburg, Bokelermoor, Germany [18 October 2013]Thank you very much! You have been very helpful with my genealogy search. I am the granddaughter of Mathilda Nordman ( born 1900) and Nicholas Jongebloed (born 1901) of Papenburg, Germany
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[add comment] [edit] Help with Genealogy of Nicholas (Nikolaus) Jongebloed. [17 November 2013]Hello! I'm hoping that you speak English since I speak no German! I have been cooresponding with Heinz Kruessel about my ancestors Nicholas Jngebloed (born 1901) and his brother Bernard Jongebloed (born 1907). They were born in Papenburg, Germany and they are the sons of Abram Jongebloed and Angela Nee. Heinz has it listed in his genealogy that they are not brothers. They are listed as having different parents. See the following information for details. I am very, very grateful for all the help that Heinz Kruessel has offered me. I truly am grateful. I am sorry that I am causing problems by bringing this to your attention.
This genealogy information from Heinz Kruessel seems to be incorrect. Bernhard Jongebloed and Nicolaus (Nicholas) Jongebloed are brothers and my family has much information to confirm this fact. The problem we are having is that Nicolaus (Nicholas) Jongebloed is listed in another genealogy as being the son of Abram Jungeblut and Angela Nee. Heinz Kruessel provided me with the information titled “Vorfahren von Nicholas Henry Jongebloed” that includes Abram Jungeblut and Angela Nee. I believe that information is accurate since Nicholas Jongebloed wrote in the family bible that his parents were Abram Jongebloed and Angela Nee. This genealogy that Heinz Kruessell prepared for Klaus Jongebloed indicates that Bernhard Jongebloed is the son of Abraham Jongebloed and Thekla Sextro. Here is a passage from the genealogy provided to Klaus Jongebloed (born 1964) about his grandfather Bernhard Jongebloed:
Kinder von Bernhard Jongebloed und Maria Walker sind: i. Angela Jongebloed, geboren 15.07.1934 in Papenburg; verheiratet mit Gerhard Sonntag 14.10.1959 in Papenburg; geboren am 23.09.1933 in Papenburg; verstorben am 21.05.1998 in Papenburg. 2 ii. Heinrich Jongebloed, geboren 22.01.1937 in Papenburg; verstorben 15.09.2001 in Papenburg; verheiratet mit Maria Feldhaus 09.10.1963. 6. Nikolaus Feldhaus wurde geboren am 13.10.1900 in Papenburg und verstarb am 23.11.1979 in Papenburg. Er ist der Sohn von 12. Johann Hermann Feldhaus und 13. Maria Hanneken. Er heiratete 7. Adelheid Albers am 03.05.1939 in Papenburg St. Michael2,2. 7. Adelheid Albers wurde geboren am 21.02.1912 in Papenburg und verstarb am 13.02.1982 in Papenburg. Sie ist die Tochter von 14. Heinrich Albers und 15. Adelheid Voskuhl. Kinder von Nikolaus Feldhaus und Adelheid Albers sind: i. Adelheid Feldhaus 3 ii. Maria Feldhaus, geboren 11.03.1940 in Papenburg; verheiratet mit Heinrich Jongebloed 09.10.1963. Papenburg. Er ist der Sohn von 16. Johannes Jungebloed und 17. Anna Alexandrine Walker. Er heiratete 9. Thekla Sextro am ca. 1904 in Papenburg St. Michael3,3.
Vorfahren von Nikolaus Jongebloed 1. Generation 1. Nikolaus Jongebloed wurde Born: am 27.07.1901 in Papenburg. Er ist der Sohn von 2. Abram Jungeblut und 3. Angela Nee. Er heiratete (married) (1) Mathilde Nordmann. Sie wurde Born: am 26.09.1900 in Bokelermoor. 2. Generation 2. Abram Jungeblut wurde Born: am 14.11.1865 in Papenburg und verstarb RIP am 23.04.1938 in Papenburg. Er ist der Sohn von 4. Nikolaus Jongebloed und 5. Christina Rehbock. Er heiratete (married) 3. Angela Nee am 25.11.1890 in Papenburg St. Michael. 3. Angela Nee wurde Born: am 02.02.1867 in Papenburg und verstarb RIP am 11.05.1936 in Papenburg. Sie ist die Tochter von 6. Bernhard Nee und 7. Anne Frericks. Kinder von (Kinder von (children of) )Abram Jungeblut und Angela Nee sind: i. Margarethe Jongebloed, Born: 18.09.1891 in Papenburg; verstorben (RIP) 21.02.1966 in Papenburg; married mit Bernhard Brakhuis 17.09.1918 in Papenburg, St. Michael; Born: am 19.01.1893 in Steenfelderfeld; verstorben (RIP) am 07.07.1963 in Papenburg. ii. Anna JJungeblut, Born: 27.03.1894 in Papenburg; married mit Johannes Lakeberg 14.08.1917 in Papenburg St. Michael; Born: am 08.11.1891 in Papenburg. iii. Christina Jungeblut, Born: 27.05.1896 in Papenburg; verstorben (RIP) 11.06.1897 in Papenburg. 1 iv. Nikolaus Jongebloed, Born: 1901 in Papenburg; married mit Mathilde Nordmann (born 1900) in Birmingham, Alabama, USA. V. Bernard Jongebloed, Born: 1906 in Papenburg; married mit Maria Walker. 3. Generation 4. Nikolaus Jungeblut wurde Born: am 25.07.1820 in Papenburg. Er ist der Sohn von 8. Abraham Jungeblut und 9. Elisabeth Niebuer. Er heiratete (married) 5. Christina Rehbock am 18.02.1851 in Papenburg St. Anthony. 5. Christina Rehbock wurde Born: am 25.09.1826 in Papenburg und verstarb RIP am 07.03.1873 in Papenburg. Sie ist die Tochter von 10. Christoph Rehbock und 11. Catharina Schipmann. Kinder von (children of) Nikolaus Jungeblut und Christina Rehbock sind: i. Elisabeth Maria Jongebloed, Born: 17.10.1852 in Papenburg II; verstorben (RIP) 14.08.1864 in Papenburg II. ii. Christoph Jongebloed, Born: 23.10.1855 in Papenburg II; verstorben (RIP) 28.07.1856 in Papenburg II. iii. Abraham Jongebloed, Born: 06.09.1857 in Papenburg. iv. Christoph Jongebloed, Born: 11.10.1860 in Papenburg. v. Maria Anna Jongebloed, Born: 27.09.1863 in Papenburg; verstorben (RIP) 05.01.1865 in Papenburg. 2 vi. Abram Jungeblut, Born: 14.11.1865 in Papenburg; verstorben (RIP) 23.04.1938 in Papenburg; married mit Angela Nee 25.11.1890 in Papenburg St. Michael. vii. Nicolaus Jungeblut, Born: 03.05.1869 in Papenburg; verstorben (RIP) 25.08.1869 in Papenburg.
[add comment] [edit] van der Laan family [4 January 2014]Hi Henk Many thanks for all your help with this Greatly appreciated and has encouraged me to delve deeper - and wider... Lis--Elidrew 07:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Andrew Gansevoort [22 January 2014]I found an Ancestry birth record for an Andrew Gansevoort, but it lists his mother as Grietje Zylstra. Could Maggie Kroel be a stepmother? Name: Andrew Ganseyoort Birth Date: 6 Feb 1872 Birth Place: Marion, Iowa Father's Name: Henry Gansevoort Mother's Name: Gritje Zylstra FHL Film Number: 1019720 I see Henry and Grietje in the 1870 census in Lake Prairie, Marion, Iowa. --Pkeegstra 12:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
= [add comment] [edit] Dorp, Voormalige gemeente [11 mei 2014]Henk, komt dit wel goed? Dorp, Voormalige gemeente het staat niet in de lijst. http://www.werelate.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Place_types
[add comment] [edit] Jan Hendriks Lanting [11 mei 2014]
Gedoopt: Jan, geboren te Eexterveen, zoon van Hindrik Harms Lanting en Aafje Ottens. Getuige: Roelofje Hindriks.
hoi,
[add comment] [edit] Foto's en zo [11 mei 2014]Dag Henk, leuk dat je foto’s ophaalt bij Commons van Wikimedia. Twee dingen.
Dus van 1024px-Kolham Kerk.JPG maak je bijvoorbeeld Kolham Kerk.JPG
Heb je een beweegreden dat je de foto ook niet op de plaats pagina zet? Je voegt de films bij de bronnen. Handig. Ik gebruik http://www.genver.nl/index.htm (en soms http://www.genver2.nl/index.html) omdat daar veelal handige index zijn toegevoegd en je 'met een beetje kan berekenen kan schatten welke foto je wilt hebben. Groetjes, --Lidewij 08:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC) -- Goeiemorgen, www.genver.nl gaat zoals het er nu naar uit ziet in juli uit de lucht, vandaar dat ik op dit moment (in elk geval de DTB boeken van Groningen & Drenthe) de links overneem in We Relate en omdat ik die DTB pagina's een beetje saai vindt de foto's van de bijbehorende kerken :-)Als ik hier mee klaar ben is mijn bedoeling ga ik de Groninger plaatsen bij langs en ga ik daar de verwijzingen naar de sources aanbrengen en deze pagina's een beetje updaten. groet van --henk 09:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
er hangt ons niets boven het hoofd :-) Genver kopieerde links van Familysearch, ( was dus eigenlijk een soort "portal" daar zijn ook de originele films ) de links die ik (en Jennifer) nu maak gaan dan ook rechtstreeks naar FamilySearch. In eerste instantie wilden we heel Nederland doen, maar da;s te veel voor ons tweeën, dus doen we alleen Friesland, Groningen en Drenthe. Voor zover ik weet hangt ons verder niets ergs boven het hoofd, behalve momenteel een hele hoop wolken met daaruit heel veel regen :-)--henk 09:51, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Lidewij, ja, dat is precies het probleem met GenVer. See a GenVer link https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19077-59854-58?cc=2026219&wc=MCLV-8TL:343159301,343431701. But... you don't need the "cc" number or the "wc" number! Only the "TH" number is needed. This same link works https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19077-59854-58. We are using a template on WR like this: {{FSscan|TH-1-19077-59854-58|Tienjarige tafels 1883-1892}}. If FS changes their URL, WR only needs to make a change to the 1 template. Also, anybody can add, edit or fix the links and add specific page numbers like here Source:Achtkarspelen, Friesland, Netherlands. Burgerlijke Stand. --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:29, 11 May 2014 (UTC) Regarding: entire film upload - that is not allowed by FS. There were some websites that "hacked" that - but it is against FS's "terms of service". --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC) Jennefer, ik weet dit van de linken. Ik had dat al eens uitgezocht. Het laatste stuk is er af.
Maar wie zegt dat https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19077-59854-58 zal blijven werken. Na het opknippen van de films zal dat, volgens mij, dat ook niet meer werken. Groetjes, --Lidewij 11:47, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Zie verder Help:NLHelpdesk#Akten_bij_familysearch.org --Lidewij 21:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Lijst van plaatsen in Groningen [28 mei 2014]Henk, naar aanleiding van mijn verwijdering van jou toegevoegde Village op Beerta schreef ik je mijn excuus en motivatie. Daarbij gaf ik aan wanneer plaatsen driemaal op de provincie pagina zouden komen dit wel wat onoverzichtelijk zou worden. Voor plaatsen was er een andere mogelijkheid zoals op Wikipedia. Helaas heb ik je toen niet gemeld dat we die ook op Werelete hadden, ik ging er van uit dat je dat wist. Er gaat wel eens wat fout in de communicatie....:-) we blijven toch maar gewoon mensen, ik had inderdaad niet gezien dat deze lijst al bestond en ben misschien een beetje te voortvarend te werk gegaan, we gaan gewoon met die van jou verder en die i gisteren gemaakt heb gooi ik weg ..... groetjes --henk 07:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
[add comment] [edit] Margaret May Steinberg [29 mei 2014]I am working on getting the exact date of death for Margaret Steinberg (Kaufman). I know other family members have the information so will track it down. Actually, she died in Mandeville, La. but she was buried in Omaha, Douglas, NE. at Forest Lawn Cemetery.--J42wribrusky 14:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Place:Borgercompagnie [1 June 2014]Borgercompagnie is een linddorp die over meerdere gemeenten liep. Wanneer je in Muntendam werd geboren was dat niet in eens gemeente Veendam. We zijn met geschiedenis bezig niet met anno nu. Anders de naam Borgercompagnie niet gebruiken en alleen de gemeenten waar men werd geboren of stierf. --Lidewij 19:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC) De akten werden opgemaakt in Sappermeer tot 1949 en tot 1990 in Muntendam. Veendam of Wildervank. Alleen Veendam en Wildervank worden in 1969 één gemeente. --Lidewij 20:01, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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[add comment] [edit] Douwe Alles Zuidema family in Lancaster, Erie County, NY [27 July 2014]Dear Henk, You have put information on We Relate about the Jan Harke Zuidema family in Lancaster, NY. In finding information about his family did you come across information on the Douwe (Douma/David) Alles Zuidema family? According to our family history book Douwes' family immigrated from Friesland, Netherlands arriving in New York on 1 June 1852 on ship, Jan Van Brakel from (port) Rotterdam. (His name was written wrong, as Donnie Alles Weidema.) He cam with his wife, Grietje (Margaret) Pieters (Nieuwsma), and my great grandmother, Froukje (Francis) Douwes Zuidema (2 years old). They missed the 1850 U.S. census, can't find them in the 1860 U.S. census and are shown in the 1870 U.S. census living in Holland, Ottawa County, Michigan. Our family book shows that two children were born in the Village of Lancaster, Erie, NY: Nanke (Nancy) Douwes Zuidema on 27 Nov. 1854 and Albert Pieter Zuidema on 1 Sept. 1856. If the Jan Harke Zuidema family is the only Zuidema family listed in the 1850's and Nanke and Albert were born in Lancaster, my assumption is that these families were related and/or knew each other. I have read that Worp Van Payma started a small Dutch community in Lancaster around 1849, so it's possible that these two Zuidema families made their way to Lancaster, because of that. Thank-you, in advance, for passing on any information that you have, that would help me "fill in" this part of the Zuidema family history. Sincerely Nancy Danburg--Bookgirl2 14:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC) Hi Nancy on your talkpage :-)--henk 07:44, 27 July 2014 (UTC) |
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