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[add comment] [edit] Column religions on Landverhuizers [28 February 2015]what do you think of these abbreviations for religions? Religions--henk 18:21, 28 February 2015 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] familie Gommers [27 April 2015]Hallo Henk, Even een vraagje vooraf. Kan ik in het Nederlands mijn vragen stellen of moet ik het in het Engels doen. Ik heb enkele vragen over de familie Gommers. Met vriendelijke groet, Gerrit Gommer--Gommer 08:13, 27 April 2015 (UTC) goeiemorgen, Ik ben Nederlander :-) duskan gewoon in 't Nederlands..... Ik zag op de website van werelate.org uw naam bij enkele namen van de familie Gommers staan. Zoals bijvoorbeeld bij George en Henry Gommers wonende destijds te Michigan. Ik ben een boek aan het maken over mijn familie. Heeft u nog meer gegevens m.b.t. deze familie. Mocht dat zo zijn, wilt u dat met mij delen. Zo niet weet u hoe ik verder moet zoeken om aan contactgegevens te komen. mvrgr Gerrit Gommer--Gommer 08:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC) Helaas heb ik geen verdere gegevens, maar ik zal eens kijken wat ik verder over ze kan vinden. Het gaat dus om George Gommers en zijn vader Henry? en ben je ook benieuwd naar Klaas Gommers? Ik kom er op terug..... hartelijke Groet Henk Smidtman Inderdaad ik ben ook benieuwd naar gegevens van Klaas Gommers. Alvast bedankt voor de medewerking. mvrgr Gerrit Gommer--Gommer 08:42, 27 April 2015 (UTC) Ik was vergeten te schrijven dat het inderdaad om George en zoon Henry en de andere kinderen gaat. mvrgr Gerrit--Gommer 08:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC) Beste Gerrit, Het lijkt erop dat ik al beet heb :-) heb je een e-mail adres? ( je mag ook een e-mail naar [[email protected] [email protected]] sturen ) Ik publiceer nl geen gegevens van "levende"mensen groet [add comment] [edit] [27 May 2015]
[add comment] [edit] [1 June 2015]1. Gebruik en plaatsing Een ieder die tot de Nederlandse adel behoort, wordt aangeduid met het predikaat jonkheer of jonkvrouw, tenzij hij of zij recht heeft op een titel. Het predikaat gaat aan de voornaam vooraf, terwijl de titels tussen de voornaam en geslachtsnaam worden geplaatst. In uitzonderlijke gevallen staat een titel tussen twee delen van de samengestelde geslachtsnaam (bijv. Bosch ridder van Rosenthal). 2. Hoofdletters of kleine letters; afkortingen Aangezien academische titels met een kleine letter geschreven worden, kan hetzelfde gelden voor adellijke titels en predikaten. Jonkheer en jonkvrouw kunnen worden afgekort tot ‘jhr.’ en ‘jkvr.'--henk 09:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] date [1 July 2015]The preferred format of dates is D MMM YYYY. For example, 4 Sep 1753.--Radrexhage 18:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
[add comment] [edit] bron [2 July 2015]Hallo Henk mooie correctie/toevoeging bij Pieterke Geerts. vraag: hoe doe ik dit? groet Richard--Radrexhage 16:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC) by Birth zie je onder het blokje Source staan; je klikt op de +; automatisch springt ie naar de eerst beschikbare "source citation" ; Je kiest Source en zoekt op de source ( de DTB en Burgerlijke stand van Groningen Friesland en drenthe hebben wij gemaakt ) In dit geval de burgerlijke stand van 't Zandt. (als je bij Title alleen 't Zandt invult zie je welke beschikbare Bronnen we gemaakt hebben.) Bij record name heb ik de bron van www.allegroningers.nl gecopieerd met de link tussen 2 haken. *Source Burgerlijke stand *'t Zandt, Groningen, Netherlands. Doop-, Trouw- en Begraafboeken Hoop dat het zo een beetje duidelijk is :-) groet Henk [add comment] [edit] Vredeveld confirmation [13 July 2015]is Person:Aaltje Vredeveld (5) the same as Person:Aaltje Vredeveld (3) ?--henk 09:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you for the help with the Elbers. I wondered if they were all connected. So pleased with this website. Diane Hosler.--Diane Hosler 00:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC) You're welcome :-)
[add comment] [edit] Emigrant Meiring Mystery [11 August 2015]Hindrik Meiring had 3 wives in Groningen. The last one, married in 1865, was Aaffien Berghuis. She died in August, 1866. So why does what is almost certainly his (1867) landverhuizer record say he has a wife? (Another case where the bevolkingsregister might be enlightening....) (P.S. in the Huwelijk record all 4 parents have patronymic "Hindriks"....) Note that he marries Aafke van Kampen in Michigan as soon as he arrives; according to the 1900 census both immigration and marriage were in 1865. Could they have been engaged before he left, and he was thinking of that? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS9V-9XR See e.g. 1903 marriage of son for evidence fourth wife was Aafke van Kampen.... https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQQH-C2V --pkeegstra 01:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Followup to Person talk:Hindrik Meiring (1) --pkeegstra 10:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Klaas Isebrants [2 September 2015]Is this Klaas IJzebrands Zarkema the same person as the husband of this family? --pkeegstra 18:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC) Oops, I don't think so. The latter was 16 in 1812.... I found the connection. --pkeegstra 19:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC) Is that common for a guy to marry at 16? Did it require a royal dispensation? --pkeegstra 16:11, 2 September 2015 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Harmanus van Doren and Geertje Schuring [2 September 2015]Any idea where and when they got married? I'm guessing from the birth years it's in the civil registry era, but I haven't found it, and neither have this or this stamboom. --pkeegstra 16:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Hack van Roorda m/v? [24 October 2015]Dag Henk, We hebben beide een Hack van Roorda toegevoegd. De één vrouw, de ander man. We hebben ons gebaseerd op dezelfde bron, nl het werk van Simon Wierstra. Als je het met me eens bent dat Hack een vrouw was, zet ik het wel om. Prettig weekend! Edwin--Edwin 14:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC) ben het met je eens het is een vrouw :-) fijn weekend [add comment] [edit] Source for LaDow family [28 May 2016]Hi I'm wondering what source you used for the John LaDow and Maria Lindebeck family, as there are 20 children born over a span of 32 years listed. This is both an unusual number of children and an unusual span of actual child-bearing years for one wife. One of the reasons this caught my eye was that I noticed a Polly LaDow (b. 1789) amongst the children. I wonder if she was their child, or if she was the wife of Daniel, since it is known that there was a Daniel LaDow whose wife was named Polly - see Boardman Genealogy, p. 296 and both the 1850 Federal census (where Daniel's name is transcribed as David La Due) and 1855 New York State census. I don't know enough about the prevalence of the La Due/La Dow name in New York to determine whether Daniel LaDow and Daniel La Dow were the same person. If you have sufficient information to believe that they were, please merge these pages. Thanks.--DataAnalyst 18:06, 28 May 2016 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] GEDCOM Export Ready [31 December 2019]The GEDCOM for tree Groningers, Friezen en Drenten is ready to download. Click here. [add comment] [edit] Daniel Jacob Loth [4 July 2021]Hi Henk, Mijn zus en ik zijn onze familielijn aan het uitzoeken. Ik zag dat je wat informatie over Daniel Loth op zijn pagina had gezet, oa dat hij mogelijk uit de East Indies zou komen. Mag ik vragen waar je deze info gevonden hebt? We zijn erg geinteresseerd in de bron! Dat hij uit Duitsland zou komen (in ieder geval 1e generatie) lijkt niet aannemelijk aangezien hij een vrij donkere huidskleur gehad moet hebben. We hebben foto's van zijn vrouw Jacqueline, die oogt als een vrij licht gekleurde vrouw, en zijn dochter Albertine die duidelijk veel donkerder is dan haar moeder. Alvast bedankt! Sjuultje--Sjuultje 15:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Hoi, Ik heb dit uitgezocht voor Marilyn Rochford ([email protected]), een Canadese mevrouw ook een nazaat van Daniel Loth en we vermoeden dat jij als handelaar uit West Indie komt, maar zeker weten doen we het niet. Zelf werkt ze er niet meer aan, maar ze zal het leuk vinden dat je contact opneemt. Groet--HenkCS 15:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Hallo Henk, Daniël Jacob Loth is één van mijn voorvaderen. Er zijn twee geruchten in omloop, die ik vooralsnog niet bevestigd weet te krijgen. De ene is dat de familie Loth in Colombia woonde voor hun komst naar Suriname. De andere is dat de familie eerst Levi of Levy heette en er een naamsverandering is geweest. Dit laatste komt van mijn moeder maar die kan ik er niet nader naar vragen omdat zij is overleden. Wellicht heb je hier iets aan. Vriendelijke groet, Ronald van Oosten--Rovano 18:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC) Hoi, Ik deed dit onderzoek voor een andere nazaat van Daniel Loth, dit was bij haar niet bekend, zelf denk ik dat de familie Loth via Indonesie naar Suriname is gekomen. groet Henk [add comment] [edit] Pages with no dates [17 October 2021]Hi There are several pages (below) where you are the last contributor, and there are no dates for the person or relatives. Since WeRelate can't tell if these people are living, these pages will be deleted unless at least some dates are entered. Do you want to take a look at these pages, or should I just delete them all? If I don't hear back within about 2 weeks, I'll just delete them. Thanks.--DataAnalyst 16:00, 14 September 2021 (UTC) delete Person:Agnes Rubingh (1)
[add comment] [edit] GEDCOM Export Ready [30 December 2021]The GEDCOM for tree Groningers, Friezen en Drenten is ready to download. Click here. [add comment] [edit] Principality of Zurowy , Principality Zurowy Count Werner Zurek, Count Werner Zurek Baron de Grotow-Eichenau The noble Polish family Grotowski , called Zur and Zurek __________________________________ [14 jul 2025]Principality of Zurowy , Principality Zurowy Count Werner Zurek, Count Werner Zurek Baron de Grotow-Eichenau The noble Polish family Grotowski , called Zur and Zurek ________________________________________ Zur, called Zurek of Zurowie and Grotów . Grotowscy ( Grotowski ) who lived in GrotówStary inherited Zurowie . In 1537 Pawel, son of Maciej, called Zur of Grotów , inherited the estate from Stanislaw Grotowski . Nobilis Stanisław Zur , wife the Honorable Katarzyna Grotowska , married in the year 3.8.1603, witnesses: Nobilis Jan Grotowski and Jan Slassa Pawel's son Stanislaw, called Zurek (i.e. son of Zur), with his wife Anna Belska , daughter of Pawel ( Belski ) in 1560 notarized and entered into the land register a commitment about the lifelong inheritance with his wife Anna of Belski , daughter of Pawel ( Belski ) (Zs. Gr . Czers . 10 B f. 225; 27 f. 114; 30 f. 866; 31 f. 748). Stanislaw (Zurek) had two sons, Jerzy and Ludwik. Jerzy was accused of robbery by the sons of Adam Boruta in 1583. In 1603 Ludwik (Zurek) moved to the town of Bodzew with his brother Jerzy's sons, Adryjan , Anna and Barbara . Later, Adryjan and his wife “von Dubielski ” had their lifelong inheritance recorded before a notary in 1617. (Zs. Gr . Czers . 51 f. 1033; Perp . Czers . 2 f. 388; Zs. Warec . 21 f. 757 i 789) Zur, called Zurek of Zurowie and Grotów . The Grotowskis , who lived in GrotówStary , inherited Zurowie Maciej Zur of Grotów Pawel Zur of Grotów , inherited the GrotówStary estate from Stanislaw Grotowski in 1537 Nobility Stanisław Zur , wife the Honorable Katarzyna Grotowska , married in the year 3.8.1603, witnesses: Nobilis Jan Grotowski and Jan Slassa Stanislaw, Zurek of Grotów ob Anna Belska , daughter of Pawel Belski , documented the estate GrotówStary in 1560 Stanislaw, Zurek of Grotów had two sons: Jerzy Zurek of Grotów , and Ludwik Zurek of Grotów in 1583 Jerzy Zurek of Grotów was accused of robbery in 1583. In 1603, Ludwik Zurek of Grotów moved to the town of Bodzew with his brother Jerzy's sons, Adryjan Zurek of Grotów , Anna and Barbara . Adryan Zurek from Grotów oo N. von Dubielski inherited the lifelong Grotów estate in 1617 Stary certified before the notary. The "Principality of Zurek" is a fictitious or hypothetical entity, not documented in historical or genealogical research. Since there is no historical or current reference to an actual Principality of Zurek, this could be a term used either in historical romance, genealogical reasoning, or fictional representations. If “Principality of Zurek” is an idea or a concept, the following aspects could be highlighted: 1. Fictional or historical representation: o Fictional context: The term could be used in literary or historical fiction to represent an imaginary noble or aristocratic structure. o Genealogical speculation: In genealogical research, the term could be used to describe hypothetical circumstances or the status of a family that was never historically recognized as a principality. 2. Connection to the Grotowski family: o If "Principality of Zurek" is related to the Polish noble Grotowski family, it may be a speculative or symbolic representation of their importance and influence, but not an actual historical entity. 3. Possible uses: o Cultural or Symbolic Significance: The term could be used to illustrate the influence and significance of the Grotowski family in a symbolic way. o Extended Genealogical Views: In genealogical research or historical fiction, the term might be used to create an extended or idealized representation of the family. Werner Zurek is an author who deals with the history and genealogy of the Polish noble family Grotowski, called Zur and Zurek. He has published a book entitled “The noble Polish family Grotowski, called Zur and Zurek” . In this book he describes the lineage, nobility and aristocratic literature of this family. The Grotowski family, also known as Zur and Zurek, is a Polish noble family with a long and interesting history. Here are some important points about this family: Origin and history • Origin : The Grotowski family comes from Poland and has its roots in the Polish nobility. • • Name : The name “Grotowski” probably derives from a geographical location or characteristic. “Zur” and “Zurek” are additional names associated with the family. genealogy • Family trees : The family has a detailed genealogy that can be traced back for many generations. This includes various branches and connections to other noble families. • • Coat of arms : Like many noble families, the Grotowski family has its own coat of arms, which symbolizes its identity and history. Meaning and influence • Historical role : Members of the Grotowski family have played various roles in Polish society throughout history, including military, political and cultural contributions. • • Cultural heritage : The family also contributed to Polish culture and literature, which is recorded in various historical documents and books. Literature and research • Werner von Zurek : Werner von Zurek has written a book about the family in which he describes the history and genealogy of the family in detail. This book provides a comprehensive overview of the lineage and nobility of the Grotowski family. • Werner Zurek was born on March 13, 1952 in Voelklingen in Saarland as the son of the employee Heinz Kurt Zurek and his wife Maria, née Kußler . • At the age of 6 he attended the Catholic primary school in Voelklingen - Geislautern and finished secondary school in Geislautern in 1968 • From 1968 to 1970 he began an apprenticeship as a machine fitter. • From 1970 to 1972 he completed an apprenticeship at Roechling - Völklingen as a rolling mill worker (skilled steelworker). • Daun for two years , where he was trained as a radio operator in electronic combat reconnaissance. He finished his service as a non-commissioned officer. As a reservist he was promoted to staff sergeant. • Acquisition of the intermediate school leaving certificate at the ILS • From 1975 he was a civil servant candidate in the Ministry of Finance (Federal Customs Administration). After passing the final examination, he served as a border guard under the Federal Border Protection Act and as a customs officer in customs and tax matters and was therefore also an assistant to the public prosecutor. • In 1975 he married his wife Ulrike, née Daub. • In 1982 his daughter Sandra was born. • He retired in 2014. • Awards: • Air defence training at the Technical Relief Organisation • Bundeswehr Marksman’s Cord • Training at the German Red Cross • State explosives permit • Basic certificate of the German Lifesaving Association • European Police Sports Badge from the Federal Customs Administration. Also valid for the European Community. • Admission to the Royal Brotherhood of Saint Teotonius . Protector is the heir to the throne of Portugal, HRH the Duke of Braganza. • Veteran badge of the Bundeswehr. Werner Zurek is a versatile author and historian who is particularly interested in the Polish noble Grotowski family, also known as Zur and Zurek. His book "The Noble Polish Grotowski Family, Called Zur and Zurek" provides a detailed overview of the history, genealogy and cultural heritage of this family. Important aspects of the Grotowski family: 1. Origin and history: The Grotowski family has its roots in the Polish nobility and is an important example of the aristocratic families of Poland. The name "Grotowski" could be derived from a geographical location or a characteristic. "Zur" and "Zurek" are additional names also associated with the family. 2. Genealogy: o The Grotowski family has a detailed and well-documented genealogy that can be traced back for many generations. This includes various branches and connections to other noble families. o Like many noble families, the Grotowski family has its own coat of arms, which symbolizes its identity and history. 3. Significance and influence: o Members of the Grotowski family have played various roles in Polish society throughout history, including military, political and cultural contributions. o The family contributed to Polish culture and literature, which is recorded in numerous historical documents and books. Werner Zurek: Personal background: Werner Zurek was born on March 13, 1952 in Völklingen in Saarland. He grew up as the son of the employee Heinz Kurt Zurek and his wife Maria (née Kußler ). Education and career: After attending the Catholic primary school in Völklingen - Geislautern and graduating from secondary school in Geislautern , he trained as a machine fitter and completed an apprenticeship as a rolling mill worker. From 1972 to 1974 he served as a temporary soldier in the German army, where he was trained as a radio operator in electronic combat reconnaissance. After his military service, he worked as a civil servant in the Ministry of Finance (Federal Customs Administration) from 1975 onwards, where he worked as a border guard and customs officer, among other things. Family: In 1975 he married Ulrike Daub, and in 1982 his daughter Sandra was born. Retirement and awards: Werner Zurek retired in 2014. During his career he received several awards, including the Marksman's Cord of the German Armed Forces, the European Police Sports Badge and the Basic Certificate of the German Lifesaving Association. He is also a member of the Royal Brotherhood of Saint Teotonius . Zurek's book and his research contribute significantly to the understanding of the history and genealogy of the Grotowski family and provide valuable insights into the aristocratic heritage of this Polish noble family. --Conde 16:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
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