Person talk:Aaltje Vredeveld (3)

From Aaltje Vredeveld (5): Research Notes [26 June 2018]

is Person:Aaltje Vredeveld (5) the same as Person:Aaltje Vredeveld (3) ?--henk 09:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

We should be able to find her death certificate. --pkeegstra 10:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Found the death certificate. It names the father of (5) as Albert. Unless that's wrong. Drenlias knows only Roelofje 1845 and Hendrikje 1845 daughters of Albert.

Note also Aaltje 1839 daughter of Barteld who emigrates and marries Hermanus Gezon. --pkeegstra 11:05, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

The only marriages for Albert Vredeveld known to WieWasWie are in Beilen.

• Albert Geerts 1807
• Albert Jans 1822

(The implication being that the search for Aaltje probably can limit itself to Drenthe and not extend to the Vredevelds from Overijssel or elsewhere.)

And there are no illegitimate Aaltje's born on 8 Aug anywhere in Drenthe any year between 1835 and 1840.

--pkeegstra 10:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I noticed there was 1 other Vredeveld in Polkton: Person:Lammigje Vredeveld (1) a sister of Person:Aaltje Vredeveld (3) not sure if it is a clue but nevertheless..

For sure it is a clue. I wonder if she has a 1903 obituary.

It is also a clue that her sister Dina was also a servant in a non-Dutch household in 1850.

--pkeegstra 10:49, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

There is a photo of her first husband Lucas Elbers the Coopersville Reformed church has. It has been cropped and cuts out the person next to him which I believe to be one of his wives. Does anyone know where to locate the original photo? The church does not think they have it.--Bashy32000 10:55, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

From Aaltje Vredeveld (5): Research Notes [2 July 2018]

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF8F-Z2Y : accessed 13 July 2015), Elden Henux Fraduflt in household of George Stevenson, Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan, United States; citing family 174, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

United States Census, 1860," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW63-YTV : accessed 13 July 2015), Ellen Vredeveld in household of William Woodward, Third Ward Grand Rapids City, Kent, Michigan, United States; from "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," database, Fold3.com (http://www.fold3.com : n.d.); citing p. 101, household ID 758, NARA microfilm publication M653 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 803,550.--henk 11:55, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I'd say we have enough proof to tie the two together, and the name on the death certificate is just an error. (death certificate informant was Mrs. James Mulder. Do we know her or him?) --pkeegstra 10:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

yes we do: Mrs. James Mulder (stepdaughter)

I can look for obituary. Diane Hosler--Diane Hosler 21:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I did not find an obit for Lillie Vredeveldt Kloosterhouse. 'Bashy32000' would be the expert, and maybe between she and I we can ask the older folks if she and Ellen were sisters. There are plenty of Vredeveldts and Kloosterhouses to ask :)--Diane Hosler 23:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)