User talk:BobC

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‎philgibbs1.ged [4 January 2011]

You uploaded a gedcom, ‎philgibbs1.ged, on 6 Oct. Since this time, WeRelate's gedcom uploading software has been updated. As a result, the warnings for your gedcom may not be properly calculated. It does not appear that you have processed this gedcom to date. Please remove the current gedcom, and reupload so that any warnings display accurately. Let me know if you have any questions, --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:49, 13 December 2010 (EST)

Seems like someone removed the GEDCOM for me. Contrary to what you stated, the GEDCOM file was being processed by me. It was a larger one, over 100 names, and as time permitted, I was processing it name by name slowly over two months, adding information from other sources to the data file for more completeness, accuracy, and source referencing. To know that someone, perhaps you JBS66, deleted it in one stroke of the keyboard illustrates well the ease of which someone can disregard and disrespect the efforts of another contributor at WeRelate and the complexity of the GEDCOM upload process. I think my time would have been better spent updating and/or correcting the possible problems and warnings caused by the upload, but you or some other caring and dedicated Admin decided that deletion of the file was the simplest and most efficient method to handle the situation. I could say more, but to do so would not get me anywhere but Heartburn City. --BobC 21:44, 4 January 2011 (EST)
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Record check for John Michael [8 March 2011]

Hi Bob, could you check your records for John Michael, son of Frederick Michael and Elizabeth. You have his first wife as Elizabeth Williams, I have another source that has her as Juliana (surname unknown). I've listed the link to the article on Frederick Michael that claims his first wife is Juliana (no records listed), so maybe you have something that shows otherwise.

Thanks and best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 20:09, 7 March 2011 (EST)

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Your recent Jackson contributions [22 December 2011]

Bob, I am SO glad to see you posting here again!!
And Gen. Stonewall's line at that! Double blessing. I thought you might want to know that two distantly related, well documented descendants of John Jackson and Elizabeth Cummins are currently awaiting results of their DNA tests. Since they were well documented, they did not need to do this testing, but did it so that other Jacksons would have another way of verifying their relationship. The Jackson Brigade group sponsored the tests. I am a volunteer admin for FTDNA Jackson group and had written to Dan Hyde asking if this could be done.
Getting two distantly related, well documented men to test has been such a benefit for my own Jackson line (Robert Jackson of Hempstead, NY) that I wanted this for Stonewall's line also. Now I'll go back to see if you have info on the two men who have just recently tested. Results will probably come in sometime in January. Just hoping the haplotype will be unique enough to distinguish this line from other Jacksons! --Janiejac 00:44, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Happy for you - as well as the DNA contributors/testers you mentioned. I couldn't believe all that information on the Jackson line and even the grandparents to the famous Civil War General here at WeRelate, but no Stonewall posting! I just had to add it, even tho' I don't believe I have a connection.
Needed a break from WR for awhile, both because of work and because I was getting discouraged at the new protocol being developing here at WeRelate. Also, I had a couple fairly large GEDCOMs prematurely deleted by an infamous contributor/administrator who must have felt I was taking too long to update them and decided she'd take it upon herself to decide the fate of them without asking or giving notice. Made me reconsider using this site because of the ease at which information can be discarded without considering the thoughts, hard work and time people invest into their own contributions. So for now I'll take it a day at a time.
Good luck with researching your line, Janie. --BobC 23:16, 21 December 2011 (EST)
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Congratulations! [11 February 2012]

You just won the first WeRelate Genealogy Contest - Billy the Kid!! Thank you so much for contributing and making WeRelate a great resource for historians and genealogists. Your graphic prize badge is on the way. Congratulations BobC!! ~ The Contest Organizers --cthrnvl 14:52, 1 February 2012 (EST)

Thanks and it was a learning experience for me as well. Appreciate your novel approach to reinvigorating WeRelate. Good luck with it. --BobC 00:21, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Here is the graphic badge [[Image:Img0772012 werelate winner.gif]] signifying that you are a winner. You can add it to your user page if you like. Thanks for playing! --cthrnvl 10:10, 11 February 2012 (EST)

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 February 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded WECKERT.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.


--WeRelate agent 22:49, 23 February 2012 (EST)
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WECKERT.ged Imported Successfully [23 February 2012]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.


--WeRelate agent 00:58, 24 February 2012 (EST)
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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [24 February 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded WECKERT (1).ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.


--WeRelate agent 08:09, 24 February 2012 (EST)
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WECKERT (1).ged Imported Successfully [24 February 2012]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.


--WeRelate agent 12:33, 24 February 2012 (EST)
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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [27 March 2012]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded a211.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 23:08, 1 March 2012 (EST)

This is a somewhat larger GEDCOM file than I usually load and will take awhile to review and edit which I'm doing as best I can as time permits, so please DO NOT DELETE! --BobC 09:22, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Hi Dallan: The latest GEDCOM import (a211.ged) I have been working on for the last three weeks has disappeared from my UserPage and Tree list. I have been working on it diligently as time permits and am just a little anxious about it and the time I put into it. Please either restore it or let me know what I need to do to recover it, hopefully with the changes I've made to it. Thanks. --BobC 11:36, 27 March 2012 (EDT)

I'm *really* sorry. Your gedcom was removed yesterday. I can recover the original file that you uploaded, but any changes that you made during gedcom review have been deleted, and I don't have any way to recover them. So you'd have to start over :-(
I've just made a change so that in the future if a gedcom is removed we'll be able to recover it along with any changes that were made during gedcom review, but that's not going to help your situation unfortunately.
I'm not sure what to tell you. If you decide to start over, would you give me a heads-up that you'll be spending awhile on it by sending me an email or leaving a message on my talk page? --Dallan 13:36, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
It's our fault that your gedcom was deleted. It had been in there awhile, but since you're a long-time contributor we should have contacted you before deleting it. I'm sorry that we didn't do that and that I don't have a good solution for you. --Dallan 13:36, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
Your apology is appreciated, but this is not the first time this has happened at WeRelate. Admitting fault doesn't bring my killed work back to life.
I hope you understand my time is valuable to me - what I choose to spend it on is extremely important to me, because it usually means something else is not being done. So when I spend a lot of time on something, maybe not all at one sitting but over a period of time, it means something to me personally. The loss of that GEDCOM data means that I wasted that time, valuable time I could have been doing something else meaningful to me, to my wife, to my family, or to my friends. I'm not only resentful, I'm angry. I can't imagine having to start that file over again and I'm dumbfounded that it cannot be restored to where it was when I left it. I can't even understand WHY it was deleted! Your message didn't even address the "WHY!" I'm so upset I'm seriously considering ending my association with WeRelate, but that would only compound the loss and the waste of time, and destroy the purpose of my deciding to keep my data on WeRelate. But I see now I am going to have to look at other options elsewhere.
Procedurally, I can't understand your action. You encourage quality, edited, sourced uploads to WeRelate, but only allow a month to go by before you delete not-fully-processed GEDCOMs. Anyone can restore any wiki edit made within WeRelate to any point in the life of the wiki page, but only now, four or five years into the life of this app, are you willing to add the capability to restore a partially edited, prematurely deleted GEDCOM file. Not acceptable! --BobC 14:28, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
I wouldn't blame you for leaving. I don't have any solution for you. This is the first time that I've been made aware that a gedcom has been deleted prematurely.
Actually, your gedcom wasn't deleted prematurely. Gedcom's are deleted because many people never complete the review. The policy, which is in the message left on your talk page when your gedcom is uploaded, is that gedcom's are deleted two weeks after upload. You left a message on your talk page asking that it not be deleted, but leaving a message on your talk page is not a good place to leave it. The admins didn't see your message. --Dallan 14:50, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
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GEDCOM Export Ready [27 March 2012]

The GEDCOM for tree Cherokee1 is ready to download. Click here.

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GEDCOM Export Ready [27 March 2012]

The GEDCOM for tree Marquez1 is ready to download. Click here.

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GEDCOM Export Ready [27 March 2012]

The GEDCOM for tree Welk1 is ready to download. Click here.

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GEDCOM Export Ready [27 March 2012]

The GEDCOM for tree Schonauer1 is ready to download. Click here.

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WeRelate Featured Page - week of July 9, 2012 [11 July 2012]

Hi Bob, just wanted to let you know that your Person Page, Charles Addams is this week's WeRelate Featured Page. Terrific use of narrative, photos and records on his life! Thanks and keep up the good work.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 18:38, 11 July 2012 (EDT)

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Civil War era FamilyBible John Utz/ Minerva (Starr) Utz [12 April 2013]

I have this Family Bible it has first hand accounts of the two of the Utz brothers who died in the war. I was under the impression Minerva Utz, the mother of said brothers, was a Cherokee Indian. If you have any interest in the Bible or have any information concerning the Starr family please contact me at G_Clore@hotmail.com. Thanks--Gclore 17:26, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

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