User talk:Moverton

Welcome [22 January 2011]

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GRO Certificates [4 March 2012]

Thanks for clarifying this point about uploading certificates, I was very unsure about the copyright situation. However, do you know if a similar situation applies for copies of those vital records recorded prior to civil registration and obtained from sites such as ScotlandsPeople. Looking at their website it seems to indicate that we cannot upload these records.--Kenamoore 03:20, 22 January 2011 (EST)

Sorry, but I do not know the answer to that. That would be a good question to ask the users at large. Moverton 03:54, 22 January 2011 (EST)

Has there been further discussion about this anywhere? I've been uploading a few certificates lately, following the advice given on the National Archives website (which states that we "are authorised to reproduce the layout of the form in any format including on the web, in films and in print". I made a template to use on these works, {{Crown Copyright BMD}}. What do you think?

Even if we're not allowed to publish the actual certificates, there is no copyright in the facts written on them, so we're perfectly allowed to transcribe!

— Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 21:05, 2 March 2012 (EST)

Seems ok to me, though I don't pretend to be an expert on copyright. It would be nice if the drop-down on the images included one specific to GRO certificates. I never have been quite sure which option is best. —Moverton 19:03, 4 March 2012 (EST)

WeRelate Featured Page - Week of April 18th [19 April 2011]

Hello, just wanted you to know that your page Leavenworth, Kansas - 1880 Census Population Schedule, has been selected the WeRelate Featured Page for the week of April 18th. Great job and keep up the good work!

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Jim Co-Administrator on WeRelate.org--Delijim 18:01, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

Valley View Memorial Cemetery [22 June 2011]

Re: Place:Valley View Memorial Cemetery, Gypsum Creek, McPherson, Kansas, United States, if the oldest headstones predate 1877, why is that the "established" date? Is there a source for this from the town? — Parsa 17:36, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

If you follow the link for the source of the "former name", the dates were given there. It could be that the cemetery's association was established in 1877. And it could be that it was private until that date. I haven't done any further research. Moverton 17:49, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Transcriptions of GRO docs [4 March 2012]

Hi! I like what you're doing at User:Moverton/sandbox#GRO_transcripts. Do you think there's a need for some templates for doing these sorts of transcriptions? I've been having a go at some myself, and would love to hear what you think. Something like {{Scotland. Statutory Marriage Record}}, for example.

I was thinking that I'd include the transcription firstly on the MySource page (I create one for each certificate), and then perhaps also on the Person or Family page to which it's most pertinent (e.g.). Then, I started wondering how to tie all the transcriptions together, so there was a place in which we could see all our own certificates, and others' too. Then I got confused.... ;-)

Any ideas?!  :-) Thanks! — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 21:12, 2 March 2012 (EST)

Templates might make transcriptions easier to do if they are being placed into a table. Some users won't want to have to mess with the table syntax. (Obviously not a problem for me.)

My own preference is to just leave any transcriptions on the image pages if they have been uploaded (example). In some cases I may just excerpt a portion of text or provide my own summary of the information on the person's page, rather than replicating what is readily viewable in the original image. I try not to create any more of the MySources than I have to.

Previously I had been thinking about transcriptions of records or indexing, but not until the recent discussion did I decide to get started on it. After playing around with them a little, it is not obvious to me what the structure of a document containing all the transcriptions for a given district would look like, or whether it would need to be subdivided in a certain fashion. Perhaps it would be easier to create an index based on the GRO with certain enhancements (i.e. including the precise location, person's age, and other names mentioned). Those additional fields could only be filled out once the record was obtained, but it could still be linked to the person that a researcher believes it refers to. The additional names contained in the record could be linked to their pages, and if the certificate was uploaded, it could be linked to the record. —Moverton 18:52, 4 March 2012 (EST)