Person:John Palmer (128)

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m. 13 Feb 1791
  1. Mary PalmerAbt 1791 - 1792
  2. Jannet Palmer1793 - 1835
  3. William Palmer1795 - 1826
  4. Robert Palmer1796 - 1868
  5. Isabella PalmerAbt 1799 - 1886
  6. Agnes Palmer1800 - 1802
  7. Jean Palmer1802 - 1816
  8. Margaret Palmer1804 - 1871
  9. Samuel Palmer1806 - Aft 1881
  10. Mary Palmer1809 - 1891
  11. John Palmer1811 - 1881
m. Est 1834
  1. William Palmer1836 - 1848
  2. John Palmer1837 - 1882
  3. Janet Palmer1839 - 1859
  4. Margaret Palmer1841 - 1873
  5. Mary Palmer1843 - 1848
  6. Isabella Palmer1845 - 1922
  7. Robert Palmer1846 - Est 1935
  8. Jean Palmer1849 - 1849
  9. Thomas Grierson Palmer1850 - 1936
  10. Samuel Palmer1852 - 1939
  11. James Palmer1855 - 1855
  12. Mary Eliza Palmer1857 - 1950
  13. Williamina Palmer1859 - 1861
Facts and Events
Name John Palmer
Gender Male
Birth[1][8] 1811 Balmaghie, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Christening[1][8] 23 Aug 1811 Balmaghie, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotlandat parish church
Occupation[7] From 1830 to 1832 Kirkgunzeon, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotlandteacher (dates appoximate)
Occupation[7] From 1832 to 1844 Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotlandschoolmaster (start date approximate)
Marriage Est 1834 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotlandto Mary Gibson
Census[2] Apr 1841 Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotlandschoolmaster, census enumerator for Colvend district
Occupation[7] Jan 1844 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandburgh schoolmaster
Census[3] 1851 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandburgh & parochial schoolmaster
Census[4] 1861 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandschoolmaster
Census[5] 1871 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandschoolmaster
Census[6] 1881 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandschoolmaster
Death? 10 Jun 1881 Rothesay, Bute, Scotland
Burial[9] Aft 10 Jun 1881 Rothesay, Bute, Scotlandcemetery at the High Church
Reference Number MGSD-YT2 (Ancestral File)

John Palmer's move to Rothesay followed the disruption in the Church of Scotland in 1843. The Church of Scotland was an established church and Presbyterian. A group within the church decided that the clergy in each parish should be chosen by the congregation rather than by the "heritors", the people who financed the upkeep of the church and appointed and paid the minister. The group that broke away, the Free Kirk, included about one-third of all the congregations throughout Scotland.

Rothesay was a town where more than half the congregation decided to form a Free Kirk. Among those who left the established churh were the minister and the teacher in the church-run school. The remnant of the High Church school was left without these vital members of staff and a search proceeded for replacements. One of the Rothesay heritors was the Second Marquess of Bute whose family also held lands in the vicinity of Southwick in Kirkcudbrightshire. Hence, the young Southwick schoolmaster with a wife and family of five children in a country school was invited to take up the post in the town.

John Palmer remained teaching at Rothesay for the rest of his life, taking on other voluntary positions such as Clerk of the Session for the church, and, later, becoming an elder. When civil registration arrived in 1855 he was appointed Burgh Registrar. In addition, he was an enumerator for the censuses of 1851, 1861 and 1871. In April 1881, although not in good health and on the brink of retiring from teaching, he was Census Registrar.

The Rothesay school grew during John Palmer's sojourn. By the 1860s he had a staff of about half a dozen and there was a campaign to build a larger school. The school was not completed until 1877 when staff and pupils (including his own young grandson and namesake) marched through the town from the old school to the new.

When, in early 1881, John Palmer notified the school board of his intention to retire, the town decided to hold a "jubilee" or celebration for him. This was scheduled for the first Saturday in June. Such was the state of his health that he had been down in Derbyshire taking the waters at Buxton and just returned to Rothesay, but was unable to attend his jubilee. He died the following week, aged 69. (Source: The Buteman newspaper)

(sources: The Buteman (weekly Rothesay newspaper), various issues from 1881 and also from 1878; a biography of John Palmer written by Jess Sandeman for a local historical group in the 1980s; Rothesay High Church Session Records 1843-1881).

References
  1. 1.0 1.1 Scotland. Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. (Ancestry.com)
    Original data: Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

    Name: John Palmer, male, age: 0
    Birth Date: 23 Aug 1811
    Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1811
    Baptism Place: Balmaghie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
    Residence Place: Balmaghie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland in 1811
    Father: William Palmer, Mother: Margaret Neilson

    Baptismal record also seen in person at the Scottish Record Office in Edinburgh. Formal registration number not recorded.

  2. Scotland. Census Office. Census returns of Scotland for 1841. (Salt Lake City, Utah: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1952)
    Kirkcudbrightshire, Colvend (parish 861), Enum Dist 6, page 13.

    Household Schedule: Cushat Grove, Southwick, Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire
    John Palmer, 29, schoolmaster, born in county
    Mary Palmer, 27, born in county
    William Palmer, 5, born in county
    John Palmer, 3, born in county
    Jannet Palmer, 2, born in county
    Margaret Palmer 2 months, born in county

  3. Scotland. Census Office. Census Returns of Scotland for 1851
    Buteshire, Rothesay (parish 558), Enum Dist 21, page 1, schedule 1.

    Household Schedule: 4 Bishop Street, Rothesay
    John Palmer, head, mar, 39, burgh & parochial schoolmaster, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Balmaghie
    Mary Palmer, wife, mar, 37, [no occ'n], born Kirkcudbrightshire, Colvend
    John Palmer, son, 13, scholar, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Colvend
    Janet Palmer, dau, 11, scholar, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Colvend
    Margaret Palmer, dau, 9, scholar, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Colvend
    Isabella Palmer, dau, 6, scholar, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Robert Palmer, son, 4, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Thomas G Palmer, son, 9mths, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Elizabeth Clifford, serv, u, 17, household servant, born Lanarkshire, Glasgow

    Page number cut off on image, but schedule number is recorded as "1", so assumed to be page 1. It is possible that John Palmer was the enumerator. The Palmer residence was the flat above the schoolrooms, accessed from an internal stair at the back of the building.

    The address of 4 Bishop Street does not match with later addresses, but it is assumed that in 1851 the houses were enumerated from the opposite end of the street. There was also a period which may have included this census when the schoolhouse was under renovation and the Palmer family had to move temporarily to other accommodation.

    Rothesay censuses taken from ScotlandsPeople website.

  4. General Register Office for Scotland. 1861 Scotland Census. (Edinburgh)
    Buteshire, Rothesay (parish 558), Enum Dist 21, page 4, schedule 26.

    Household Schedule: 38 Bishop Street, Rothesay
    John Palmer, head, mar, 49, born schoolmaster, Kirkcudbrightshire, Balmaghie
    Mary Palmer, wife, mar, 47, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Southwick
    Margaret Palmer, dau, unm, 19, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Southwick
    Isabella Palmer, dau, unm, 16, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Robert Palmer, son, 14, scholar, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Samuel Palmer, son, 8, scholar, born Buteshire, Rothesay
    Mary E Palmer, dau, 4, scholar, born Buteshire, Rothesay

    Rothesay censuses taken from ScotlandsPeople website.

  5. General Register Office for Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. (Edinburgh)
    Buteshire, Rothesay (parish 558), Enum Dist 21, page 4, schedule 24.

    Household Schedule 24. (21 numbered as 27 Bishop Street), the parish schoolhouse
    John Palmer, head, mar, 59, teacher, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Balmaghie
    Mary Palmer, wife, mar, 57, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Southwick
    Margaret Palmer, dau, unm, 30, teacher's daughter, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Southwick
    Mary Palmer, dau, unm, 14, teacher's daughter, born Buteshire, Rothesay

    Rothesay censuses taken from ScotlandsPeople website.

  6. General Register Office for Scotland. 1881 Scotland Census. (Edinburgh)
    Buteshire, Rothesay (parish 558), Enum Dist 20, page 10, schedule 54.

    Household Schedule: 37 Bishop Street
    John Palmer, head, widr, 69, teacher, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Balmaghie
    John Palmer, son, widr, 43, mariner, born Kirkcudbrightshire, Southwick
    Mary Palmer, dau, unm, 23, [no occ'n], born Bute, Rothesay
    John G. Palmer, grandson, 8, scholar, Bute, Rothesay
    Janet H. Maitland, serv't, unm, 19, domestic servant, born Lanarkshire, Glasgow

    Rothesay censuses taken from ScotlandsPeople website.

  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Teaching career.

    (1) Kirkgunzeon, Kirkcudbrightshire: first teaching post circa 1830

    (2) Southwick, Kirkcudbrightshire: followed his brother Robert at the school there in 1829. (At which time his brother moved to Currie in Midlothian with his wife and 5 children.)

    (3) Rothesay, Bute: moved to Rothesay in 1844 following his appointment as burgh schoolmaster, remained in that post for the rest of his life.

  8. 8.0 8.1 Baptismal record also seen in person at the Scottish Record Office in Edinburgh. Formal registration number not recorded.
  9. John Palmer's gravestone still exists in the cemetery at Rothesay High Church, however it has been very badly weathered over the 140 years since it was erected. It is a memoral not only to him, but to his wife and all their children that predeceased him.