User talk:Janiejac

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Information on Robert Duncan [6 August 2011]

Hi Janie, here is the information on Robert Duncan. From this source, Robert Duncan (that married Ann Gallop) WAS born in Scotland, a son of William Duncan of Perthshire, Scotland. This information is in the gedcom that I loaded and reviewed yesterday, but has not been fully loaded by one of the administrators. Once it is loaded, the information seen below will also be added to the family pages of the key Duncans.

Best regards,

Jim

From "Genealogical Record of the Duncan Family" (copy from Dr. Lenox D. Baker 12/1980) GENEALOGICAL RECORD OF THE DUNCAN FAMILY of Virginia and Kentucky, by John C. Underwood.

William Duncan of Scotland

William (2) Duncan, born 1659 10/1 in Perthshire, Scotland, married 1689 a "Highland Lassie", but the name of his wife is not known; yet it is of record that he had by her at least five children, certainly three sons and probably two daughters -- possibly others. These brothers and sisters immigrated to America and settled 1722 1/23, on the "Northern Neck" of the colony of Virginia, the special location being the later formed County of "Culpeper".

Issue of William (2) Duncan, known to have settled in Virginia.

1. William (3), born 1690 4/19, in Scotland, who married Ruth Rawley of Culpeper, Virginia, and had issue. See his "House";

2. Robert, born 1692-6, in Scotland, who married Ann Gallop, and had issue. See his "House";

3. Charles, born 1692-6, in Scotland, who married ---- and had issue, of whom but little is known, as the family moved out of Virginia. One statement is that it went to Pennsylvania, and another is that it removed to South Carolina, and the probability is that the first is true;

4&5. Two daughters, about whom nothing is known further than the allegation that they came to America with their said brothers; and it is not certainly known who of the two younger brothers was the elder.

(The foregoing is taken in substance from a Kentucky printed biography of the Duncan family, and is corroborated by record history of the family obtained from Jos. Dillard Duncan, Esq., of Warren Co., Kentucky, and Hon. Henry T. Duncan, of Lexington, Ky.)--Delijim 09:35, 3 January 2010 (EST)

Just another Benjamin Jackson [18 January 2010]

Hi Janie, How are you? I hope the New Year has been a good one for you. It is a beautiful day here in Alabama. Talking about discovering new things on this Wiki; I have been on here forever and always get to my user page from the menu, but I just found out quite by accident all I need to do is to select my user name at the top of the page, duh?

My husband copied the page on the Gay family from Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635 by Martha W. McCartney, Genealogical Publ Co., 2007, p. 324. The entry for John Gay reads On January 24, 1629, John Gay, who indicated that he was 22 years old, identified himself as Benjamin Jackson's servant. He said that on New Year's day (that is, March 25, 1628) he had been mending a pint pot at his master's house at Blunt Point (22) when William Reade and John Burrows got into an argument and Reade gave Burrows a fatal stab wound (MCGC 183).

The MCGC is the source abbreviation but unfortunately my husband failed to copy the explanation of the abbreviations. The number 22 references the no. 22 on a map, sorry but I don't have a copy of that either. Blunt Point was in the Corporation of Elizabeth City (Recoughtan) according to data on p. 47. There are other Jacksons listed in the book; check out the limited preview on Google Books. --Beth 13:05, 18 January 2010 (EST)

James Keith and Mary Randolph [19 January 2010]

Hi Janie, I got your message on James Keith and Mary Randolph. After looking at my files, I noticed that I had some information on the Ford family that you referenced, so I added that information in a gedcom. Please review it and make sure that it agrees with your information.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 13:40, 19 January 2010 (EST)

Jacksons in Isle of Wight, Virginia [20 January 2010]

Hi Janie, I added will abstracts on this page. [1]. I suppose you need to watch the category surname in place page to be alerted to newly created pages in the Jackson surname in place pages. --Beth 22:28, 20 January 2010 (EST)

Editing Text & Chart Data [10 February 2010]

Janie, my response below is a suggestion to your situation cited at WeRelate:ToDo_List#Editing...

Example: here is Person:Josiah Jackson (1) a person page that I've previously uploaded and haven't got around to adding the line breaks. So you can see how the census transcriptions look like w/o line breaks and then check the edit page to see that there was some kind of spacing when it was uploaded, but it sure didn't retain the spacing because the text is scattered all about.

It isn't too bad to go back and fix a few of these types of pages but I've got hundreds of such pages. I like to put the transcriptions in the notes (vs just citing them) because I get a better picture of the changes in the family over the years. At this point, I'll do whatever you folks suggest. I think it looks terribly hard to read and compare when all run together, but if that's what has to happen, so be it. If it looks so bad you don't want it at all, that's OK too. I guess it's late and I'm tired. P.S. I use PAF and it won't even take html in the notes. PAF has a LOT of users so eventually this will need to be dealt with if at all possible. Sounds like it may not be possible. --Janiejac 02:05, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Please excuse the change in color below, but I want to show contrast in what I'm saying and the resulting action.

That always seems to be a problem when using both text from a word processing document and text from a spreadsheet. Everything gets wrapped and becomes unreadable. One handy utility I use for the spreadsheet portion is the "Excel-to-Wiki Converter". Then I can take the resulting wiki table and insert it into the word processing portion of the text.

As an example of the results of using such a utility, using a portion of your Jackson page above, what looks to you on the finished page as...

...Now looks like this with only a little bit of extra formatting...

While it may not be perfect it is much better than the run-on paragraph formatting you had previously, and only took an extra minute or two to accomplish. Using MS-Excel to format your rough data first and then using the "text to column" data tool prior to using the converter may give you even better results, with true columnar format in the finished product.

Good luck. --BobC 11:28, 9 February 2010 (EST)

Janie, I don't know if this makes you feel better, but I find your "non-formatted" version just as easy to read as the "original" version or Bob's. I always do census transcriptions as essentially a run-on line (for just this formatting reason, although with some commas and semi-colons ;-)). If you don't label the columns, which you don't, people will either know what they are looking at or they won't, regardless of format.

In addition, I'm pretty sure that the line breaks are respected in the source notes field. That of course requires editing, but at least it's just a cut/paste instead of inserting code. --Amelia 12:13, 10 February 2010 (EST)

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Elizabeth Strother [19 August 2010]

Hi Janie, regarding your message:

changes to Family:Francis Strother and Susanna Dabney (1) [19 August 2010]

I wondered if you have seen the comment section on Family:Francis Strother and Susanna Dabney (1) before you deleted the second Elizabeth on that page. Perhaps if you know which it should be, you could leave a message on the talk page so others would know not to question about conflicting info about Elizabeth.--Janiejac 14:03, 19 August 2010 (EDT)

The younger Elizabeth Strother was not deleted. She was moved to her father's family page, John Strother (son of Francis and Susanna (Dabney) Strother. I didn't see the comments section, but I did add the following comment on the younger Elizabeth Strother (b. 1744), who was actually the grand-daughter of Francis Strother and Susanna Dabney, and was clearly identified in her father's will:

Parentage of Elizabeth Strother

"Elizabeth (Strother) Browning" was named in her father, John Strother's will. Some sources have mistakenly placed her as a daughter of Francis Strother (1700-1752), who was her grandfather.

I will add a similar comment in that section.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 15:35, 19 August 2010 (EDT)

Jackson [18 September 2010]

Hi Janie, I reverted the changes you made to Elizabeth Jackson, and it seems to be OK (I don't see any other marriage for her). If you see any other errors, let me know.

Thanks and best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 15:13, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

Abstract of Will of William Jackson-1710 Surry County Virginia [20 October 2010]

Hi Janie, I added an abstract for above to Jackson in Surry, Virginia. I think he connects to your Group E, John Jackson. Just wondering if you were notified of any changes to your pages. I clicked on the page with county table for Virginia and created the Surry page. I don't think that you will be notified; one of the problems with this system. Hope that you were.--Beth 22:24, 20 October 2010 (EDT)

Source:Annals of Bath [11 November 2010]

Hi Janie - I added the phrase (2009 ed) to the page title for your new source to further distinguish the two editions. Just wanted to let you know...--Brenda (kennebec1) 17:13, 11 November 2010 (EST)

Former Virginia Counties [8 December 2010]

Janie, I know there are several former Virginia counties that would be affected by your changes (about 15-20+). It is my opinion that the counties set up as Virginia Counties should stay as they are, since they were clearly within the boundaries of the State of Virginia prior to West Virginia's statehood in 1863. By changing them to "West Virginia", this would not be historically accurate. Most (if not all) of the former Virginia counties that I added already had been set up for West Virginia. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you'd leave them as is.

Best regards,

Jim--Delijim 15:17, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Hello Janie and Jim

From what I've seen of Janie's renamings, I have to agree with her. I was actually wondering myself why we had places with titles such as Place:Harrison County, Virginia, United States. Janie renamed this to Place:Harrison, Virginia, United States which does follow WR convention. I don't see where she is renaming Virginia to West Virginia. I know there was a conversation about this - I'll look for it and post the link here. --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:20, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Here is the link Help_talk:GEDCOM#suggested_topic_.5B20_July_2009.5D --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:23, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Agree with both, I had not noticed that "County" was not included in the title.:)

Thanks for correcting,

Jim:)

Hi Janie, got your note, interesting.... If I remember correctly, when I set up the first "Former Virginia County" I set them up that way because I believe I noticed other former counties set up the same way. In fact, if you check this one out, it was Dallan that added it that way:

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Place:Princess_Anne%2C_Virginia%2C_United_States

In addition, they're listed as "former counties" on the Virginia page. I'd think that if the county was no longer part of the state of Virginia that "former county" would be the best label to apply to them, but do what you think best:)

Best regards,

Jim:)

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Keeping track of WeRelate articles [19 December 2010]

Hi Janie. Hope you have a happy holiday season. I have been thinking about how you could keep track of your articles entered on WeRelate. You could create a tree and name it Janie's Articles and add your articles to the tree. Then you could view all of the articles in your tree. --Beth 08:25, 17 December 2010 (EST)

Hi Beth, Thank you for remembering that I struggle with that. But articles in trees? I haven't even learned to appreciate people in FTE. I rarely even open FTE and really don't know how to get the most from it. My user page which has links to articles sorted by states is a help; also I'm learning to put parent categories on the pages and that helps. Tapestry banners is on the back burner until I become more experienced. I love the results when I see what others have done - but being able to do it myself is something else again. I need to stop fishing in other folks' ponds and get my own direct line uploaded in pieces.

Hmm Yes, articles can be attached to trees but I had never thought to use a tree as a way of remembering which articles I've written. I'll study on this a bit. Thanks. And Merry Christmas to you and yours! --Janiejac 18:55, 19 December 2010 (EST)

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Jeremiah Jacksons [27 February 2011]

Hi Janie, Going through some of my old research in Autauga County, Alabama and a Jeremiah Jackson lived there. He was enumerated in the 1830 census, was 40 to 49 years old. Other white males, 1 male - 10 to 14 and 3 males - 15 to 19. White females - 2 females - 5 to 9 and 1 female - 40 to 49. He owned 25 slaves. Total in household 34. [p. 129, line 1, NARA M19, roll 3]. He purchased several tracts of land which can be found on the BLM site. Haven't checked for other records on Jeremiah Jackson.--Beth 08:16, 27 February 2011 (EST)

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Gedcom file [7 April 2011]

Janie, Your gedcom file was due to be removed April 6. Please let me know right away whether you are working on it or not. If you need more time, I need to note that in the log so it doesn't get purged. --Judy (jlanoux) 19:23, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

Barbour County, Virginia [11 April 2011]

Hi Janie, I created Barbour County, Virginia as a Former County of Virginia (like several others in current West Virginia). I'm not sure what to do about the wikipedia information, unless we "cut and paste" it from Wikipedia, since it only exists there as part of West Virginia.... Technically, the way we have it on WeRelate (showing it as part of the state of Virginia pre-1863 and part of West Virginia post-1863) is the correct way to show it....

Hope that does what you wanted.

Best regards, have a great week:)

Jim--Delijim 16:27, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

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James Jackson and Martha Harmon [13 July 2011]

Hi Janie,

Here is the link to the marriage record for a James Jackson and Martha Harmon in Ohio.

[2]

This is a link to a Jackson tree on Ancestry.

[3] --Beth 13:14, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks Beth for working to resolve this. The link to the will is for the correct James and Abigail and is a better copy than the one I had so I'm glad to get this. But . . .

The Jackson tree on ancestry.com has multiple problems and I will contact the author to see if some of it can be resolved. In 1790 Ashe County, North Carolina had not yet been organized and the area that became Ashe County was still Wilkes Co. So both James Sr. and James Jr. are enumerated in 1790 in Wilkes and in 1800 in Ashe; but it was the county lines that moved - not the families.

James Jackson Jr., s/o James Jackson and Abigail Fairchild, married Martha 'Patsy' Chambers 21 Dec 1799 in Wilkes Co., NC.

The James Jackson who married Martha Harmon was born (according to that ancestry chart) in 1783 in Scioto County, Ohio and married Martha in 1805. Couldn't have been the son of James and Abigail of Wilkes/Ashe Co. NC. Even this ancestry chart has no record of James and Abigail being in Ohio. --Janiejac 17:17, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

James Jackson and Abigail [13 July 2011]

Link to will of James Jackson in Ash County, North Carolina.

[4] --Beth 13:25, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

You are welcome Janie, it was fun. Good luck on sorting it all out.--Beth 18:36, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

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Persons Born Too Early.... (GEDCOM limit 1750) [23 January 2012]

I asked about this in the administrators group, figuring that we could get an exception for you. Dallan remarked that this could be cranked back to as early as 1550 and that you're not the sort of user for which the 1750 limit should be a hard one. Has anyone contacted you on this yet? --jrm03063 13:32, 23 January 2012 (EST)

No contact from anyone so I assume it isn't going to happen. :( The earliest birth I have to import is 1643 and have to admit the sources for that are not from original research. But it is the best info I've found and would be a starting point for anyone wanting to research further. It would take me several separate GEDCOM uploads to get into the acceptable time frame.

This info is all posted on my Jackson website but I'm going on 83 and am concerned what will happen with the info when my site is no longer available. I'm already slowing down a lot and would have liked to get as much posted at WR as possible. Yes, I've posted it to rootsweb; but that doesn't include all the analysis pages that would go with the personal data if I ever get it posted to WR. And I have wills transcribed that I haven't had time to put on WR...So this inability to continue sort of took the wind out of my sails. --Janiejac 17:48, 23 January 2012 (EST)

There was agreement from Dallan that you would be able to do this - I thought someone was going to contact you on what needed to be done. I'll follow up on the admn thread - please don't lose hope! This is just a function of volunteers innocently dropping the ball - we'll get back to this! --jrm03063 20:38, 23 January 2012 (EST)

Sorry, I've been overwhelmed at work lately and haven't gotten to this. You now have the ability to upload people back to around 1550. I'll explain exactly what "around" means on your sound off page.--Dallan 21:39, 23 January 2012 (EST)

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Alexander M Jackson [11 April 2012]

Hi Janie,

How are you? Found this interesting and wanted to share with you.

Found this Jackson in the book on Ancestry. Name of book is History of old Tishomingo County, Territory of Mississippi. See book for exact verbiage.

See p. 73-74. In Oct 1845 Alexander M. Jackson, born in the Kingdom of Ireland in the year 1823, and that his father John Jackson, emigrated to the United States bringing with him this petitioner in 1831, petitions to become a citizen of the United States. Says he has been in Mississippi for the last 2 1/2 years. --Beth 08:20, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Thanks so much Beth! I've been considering how I can set off Jackson immigrants so they can be easily identified. I keep running into so many. I'd like a new category called 'Jackson Immigrants' for any Jackson born in another country no matter when or how they arrived. I've checked out the category index and there doesn't seem to be any category like that. The only categories I see are those listing the passengers on certain ships. But if I were looking for an immigrant Jackson, I'd have to look through all those passenger lists and that's not going to happen! Have you any idea whether my suggested category for Jackson Immigrants would be acceptible? This Alexander would be a perfect person to make a brief person page to have this category. Can any user set up a category or is it best to ask an admin so that it gets set up with sensible parent category?

Any user may create a new category but I would not recommend this for all users. I don't see any problems with your category. I would name the category Jackson (Surname) Immigrants to the United States unless you have a better suggestion. We need to distinguish the surname from the country. I know there are no countries named Jackson but take for instance England. English immigrants to the United States could be the surname English or English citizens. Your parent category would be Category:Migration. --Beth 08:06, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

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Samuel P. Jax of KY.ged Imported Successfully [6 May 2012]

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John Asa Holbrook.ged Imported Successfully [9 May 2012]

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Charles Jax Comfort Coonrod.ged Imported Successfully [17 May 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 18:25, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Abigail Jax_Jon Hughes.ged Imported Successfully [4 June 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 23:12, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

Jacob Jax Maryland9959.ged Imported Successfully [15 June 2012]

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Thomas Ireland3210 .ged Imported Successfully [20 June 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 19:58, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Christopher Ash 20448 Hempstead.ged Imported Successfully [24 June 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 16:07, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

Joseph Jackson will Logan County Kentucky [3 July 2012]

Hi Janie,

While searching for a Watson will found this one on FamilySearch. Proven in March 1819. Here is the link. [5]

From Kentucky, Probate Records, 1792-1977 Logan Will records, Index, 1815-1823, Vol. B, image 113 of 267. --Beth 19:17, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Hi Janie, you are welcome. You already transcribed it, not one of my favorite things. I have several I need to transcribe. I have no idea where this Jackson family was from. Regarding this Watson family that I am halfway researching, I have traced them from Logan Co., KY back to Greenville, South Carolina back to Pittyslvania Co VA (which was created from Halifax) and back to Louisa Co VA (which was created from Hanover Co Va. One of the Squire Boones evidently died in Logan Co KY. --Beth 17:34, 3 July 2012 (EDT)

Sam Jax Mary Hanks.ged Imported Successfully [14 July 2012]

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Alexander Jax Washington OH.ged Imported Successfully [9 August 2012]

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Transforming Census Records [11 August 2012]

I wondered more about this. It's really common to want junk all of your MySource entries in favor of some actual source - so maybe a bot could be created that would do this more automatically. My thinking is that a user should be able to upload their GEDCOM - allowing whatever MySource pages there are to be created. Then, look over the MySource pages and see what Source would be preferred. Mark the MySource page with a template indicating that you want all such references to be transformed into some alternative Source. If all that needs doing is to change the MySource to a Source - then this should be pretty simple. If we need to be smarter about what happens with the content for any given citation - that it might be more tricky. --jrm03063 14:47, 11 August 2012 (EDT)

Thanks Jrm03063 for even being willing to address this problem (again). I know its been cussed and discussed before. I was gritting my teeth over the conclusion earlier but found I have been able to work around it. But during my latest GEDCOM upload it appeared that something has changed in the system so that now for any census record after 1870 my 'work-around' doesn't work. I'm concerned for future uploaders when they discover how tedious it is to source even census records that folks will give up. I've sure thought about it.

But in trying to verbalize a response to you, I wonder if the 'change' was something I did. This GEDCOM upload had in it some info that I had downloaded from my tree at ancestry.com. I don't normally do that - so perhaps the census record citations from ancestry is what was causing my problem. (I just saw how they turned out on the person pages and am not real happy with that - take a look at Person:John Jackson (363) I had no idea all that detail would be included with the census citation. I thought about removing the detail; but hesitated to do that.) That detail wouldn't be there if it hadn't come from ancestry.com.

When I do a regular source search for "1850 U.S. Census" the source comes up immediately, on top; no problem. It was just during the review of GEDCOM trying to match sources, that the source was not available unless I edited my source before searching to read exactly this way: "United States. 1850 United States Population Schedule". This should not be necessary; a regular search can find the census source; why not the matching search?

So the question comes to mind - is there something about citations downloaded from ancestry.com that would cause a problem with matching those sources in WeRelate? If so, it probably needs to be addressed because folks will not be patient with this much difficulty in GEDCOM uploads.

The fact that I don't put locations in the title of the census records is a separate issue and at first I thought that was the problem. But perhaps it is ancestry.com citations instead. Because that's the only thing I know of that has 'changed' since my previous upload. Thanks for thinking about this with me.--Janiejac 16:40, 11 August 2012 (EDT)

Wm Hallett 273 3 gens.ged Imported Successfully [28 August 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 21:34, 28 August 2012 (EDT)

David Jackson info [28 October 2012]

Hi Janie, thanks for the note on David Jackson. I've added the wikipedia link to his page so it will be added with the next refresh. As far as the watercooler discussion, hopefully "cooler heads will prevail" on that issue and we can all get back to working on our lineage and projects instead of bickering over nothing....

Best regards and enjoy the rest of the weekend,

Jim:)--Delijim 09:59, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

NCSettlers [11 December 2012]

Hi Janie, got your message on the NC Settlers Page and Jacksons. If you'd like to add a link to your page at the bottom of that page, that would be fine. I haven't done any additions to that page yet. I was planning on adding some of the early key settlers in NC (governors, prominent settlers, etc) that were instrumental in the early formation of government in NC, similar to the Virginia page.

Thanks and best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 08:53, 11 December 2012 (EST)

WeRelate Featured Page - week of February 18, 2013 [20 February 2013]

Hi Janie, just wanted to let you know that your Article/Project Page, Disambiguation. Cash McDonalds in Texas, has been nominated and selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page (will be up until the week of March 4th). Great job and keep up the good work! I've added a few links to help other researchers, and also I added the "other" Cash McDonald, per the information on his Find-A-Grave page, since I couldn't find him when I searched. Hope this meets with your approval.. :) Again, congratulations and have a great week.

Jim:)--Delijim 14:45, 20 February 2013 (EST)

volunteer partners [3 March 2013]

Hi Janie, I'd love to help out with your family history database if you have any ideas how we can go about this? AndrewRT 14:53, 3 March 2013 (EST)

Thanks so much Andrew! User:DataAnalyst offered to work at breaking my GEDCOM file into uploadable pieces. I had given up trying to do that. Let me get back to you when she is finished with it and I know more what the pieces look like. Her software lets her break up the database into families. If my PAF does that, I don't know it. --janiejac 15:09, 3 March 2013 (EST)

That's good to hear - would be interested to understand how that works as I could do with that myself! How are you planning to split it up?

I was thinking if this works is it worth having a 'bin' where people could upload raw gedcoms that others could then process? AndrewRT 15:16, 3 March 2013 (EST)

User:DataAnalyst is splitting it up and I don't know how it is done nor how large the pieces will be when she's finished.

I like the idea of a 'bin' to hold GEDCOMs of work that other folks need help with (like myself). I don't want the work lost to the WR community, but I'm getting too old to do this. I already see the difference between what I could do 2 years ago and now. When User:DataAnalyst has it broken up, let's examine what needs to be done and how. She has already suggested fixing some double dates before uploading and my eyes glazed over. I responded that it was that kind of thing I couldn't do now and that if I did the upload it would be on a 'as is' basis. I think this touches on the discussion about raising or lowering the bar. A decision needs to be made as to whether the WR community wants to accept less than perfect info in hopes someone more knowledgeable would fix it or hold out for 'more mature' work. I'll let you know when I know more.

Kimble - 375 - load to WeRelate.ged Imported Successfully [11 March 2013]

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Edward Jackson - 991 - load to WeRelate ver two.ged Imported Successfully [28 March 2013]

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Posslble duplicate Martha Millers (married Edw. Jackson) [31 March 2013]

Hi Janie, I think the two MAY be the same, except the New Jersey marriage troubles me. Martha's father John Miller was clearly in Augusta County by 1747, so if she was married to Edward Jackson in 1762, it seems quite a journey to New Jersey to get married..... I believe it was much more likely that they were married in Augusta.

Anyway, just my $.02.

Best regards and Happy Easter,

Jim:)--Delijim 10:10, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

Sarah Dennison 4104.ged Imported Successfully [13 April 2013]

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Stephen Jackson - 1205.ged Imported Successfully [2 May 2013]

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--WeRelate agent 13:19, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Father of Nancy Norris [5 May 2013]

Hi Janie, I was adding a Norris family from an Ancestry submission, and they have your Nancy Ann Norris as a daughter of William Norris and his wife Hannah Bell, from Lancaster and Fauquier County, Virginia. If this agrees with your records (you show William being born in England, the Ancestry submission has him being born in Lancaster County, Virginia), feel free to merge them, otherwise, you can dis-connect her from this family if you feel it is in error.

Just wanted you to know. Enjoy the rest of the weekend and best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 11:04, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

Categories as of May 2013 [8 May 2013]

Hi janiejac My original suggestion of Places First--Surnames Second is Message 13 under [[Help talk:Categories]].

I just read your answer to Kaentlahn (not sure I got his alias right--don't want to chase around and cut and paste) and it is making me think. I see where you are coming from. We are both speculating around possibilities.

As you may know I live in England and my time zone is 5 hours ahead of yours. Give me a couple of hours to do some household chores and then I'll get back on the computer with thinking cap on.

cheers, Pat (--goldenoldie 02:48, 8 May 2013 (EDT))

Thoughts for new search page and categories [8 May 2013]

I decided to put your thoughts, and Khaentlahn's thoughts and what I have been considering down in point form. He (?) has also received a copy of this. As you will see I had to start at the beginning--with what comes in when we introduce an ancestor to WR. Having seen the results of other people's gedcoms (particularly those produced before WeRelate put rules in place), I am in favour of strict but kindly discipline at this point. After all, this is what led to messy categories in the first place.

What we’ve got to work with:
STAGE 1
From a Person page (from cell information)

• surname
• given names
• prefixes and suffixes
• gender
• birthdate
• birthplace
• baptismal data
• death date
• death place
• burial details

In addition from Family page

• father (incl birthdate and place, death date and place)
• mother (incl birthdate and place, death date and place)
• parents’ marriage date and place
• siblings (incl birthdate and place, death date and place)

In addition from Marriage page

• spouse’s name plus birthdate and place, death date and place
• children’s names plus birthdate and place, death date and place

Oblige people to convert gedcom information to a standard format before the people in the gedcom are accepted into WR. This should also be obliged for a member’s entries made within WR.

Standard format means

• all dates xx yyy zzzz (with April being Apr not apr; “bef”, “aft” and “abt” allowed)
• what isn’t known is left as a blank cell, but urge people to make a guess on birthplace based on baptismal place, if infant baptism
• all places written according to WR rules (country must be included, no abbreviations),

in the form:

• settlement or township, county, state/province, country for North America
• settlement or parish, county, country for the United Kingdom
• agreed order for other parts of the world

(Question: should country come up in a separate cell, like surname does? Should state/province do so as well?) Otherwise, they come up in red. If this is the case, an automated but friendly explanation should appear, with a message to contact some specific helper if the new user is having trouble. Suggest omitting the settlement/township/parish if unsure (or if it is unrecognized), putting this information in the additional description box. (Helper should be advised of this, too.)

STAGE 2 Adding sources. I don’t want to go into this here.

STAGE 3. SEARCH PAGES DISPLAY (minimum visible list 50).
We could have (simplified)

• surnames (with a filter for surname variations), given names (and gender as m or f)

• birth and death years

or we could have (expanded)

• surnames (with a filter for surname variations), given names (and gender as m or f)

• birth and death years

• birthcountry (+ state/province?)
• deathcountry (+ state/province?)

or we could have (detailed)

• surnames (with a filter for surname variations), given names (and gender as m or f)

• birth and death years

• birthplace in full
• deathplace in full

• initial user (no other watchers)

One of the things that bugged me on both the categories list as was, and on the search pages, is that persons and families were presented given names first. This doesn’t allow for any quick eye scanning of differences in surname spellings (if they are even allowed in the search parameters). It was a long time before I got my head around Person and Family numbers.

STAGE 4. CATEGORIES We could have

surnames (with a filter for surname variations, and perhaps by gender?)

or we could have

surnames (with a filter for surname variations), given names (with a filter by gender?)

birthcountry (+ state/province?) and/or deathcountry (+ state/province?)

or we could have

places from the Place pages (country)

surnames (with a filter for surname variations)

or we could have

places from the Place pages (country + state/province)

surnames (with a filter for surname variations)

or we could have

places from the Place pages (country + state/province + township/parish)

surnames

My brain is now going to return to my own family genealogy for the next few hours.
--goldenoldie 06:46, 8 May 2013 (EDT)