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Janie

  Found you file. Will try to look into it further in a day or two. 
               Jack Mc

Response to your message on June 15 [16 February 2011]

Janie Finally got here. I don't see any information that you have posted as yet. It will be interesting to see how this all works out. My push for cooperative research has not been met by a crowd of persons and those that did respond have seldom do much of anything. Maybe this isn't the wave of the future?

                          Jack Mc

This is really strange; his msg to me looks all broken up. I looked at editing his msg and it looks fine on the preview but sure doesn't look good after it's saved. --Janiejac 01:08, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

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Jackson and Coker research [24 January 2008]

Hi Janie,

Excited to know that you were already on WeRelate. I believe that the talk page is for talk so we can talk here or by email. I did not know one thing about Wikis when I started on WeRelate and still have a lot to learn. I just jumped in and asked many questions on the Watercooler. One will be able to download a gedcom from WeRelate eventually so I plan to use WeRelate as my main database, web page and most everything. I will have to maintain the "living" in a database in one of my genie programs.

If you keep coming back you are probably going to get hooked on this just like I did. <g>

--Beth 01:20, 24 January 2008 (EST)


Link to home page for Jackson genealogy [30 March 2008]

Hi Janie, Your link does not seem to work for me. Maybe it is my browser, but you try. --Beth 22:05, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Janie, edit the link again. Highlight the link and select external link from the edit toolbar; then it should work. --Beth 08:10, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

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Jackson/Shotwell information [4 June 2008]

Hi Janie, Thank you for contacting me about Mary Jackson's information. I would gladly accept any help that you may be with her line. I don't believe that I have actually researched her line very much, if any. If you'd like, you can either edit the information or you can email where I can find the information and I can do the research.

I only recently discovered WeRelate a few days ago and have not had much time on it as I was pursuing other genealogy networking sites simultaneously. I sort of wanted to see what the other sites are like and what they entail. I have been trying to dedicate time to my research but am busy preparing for a little one. My wife is due to give birth at the end of July and there is so much to do!

I'm glad you contact me and I hope to hear from you soon.--Kim Ostermyer 18:53, 4 June 2008 (EDT)


Shotwell [4 June 2008]

Hi Janie, I have an Eleanor Shotwell who married Noah Coker in my database; have not had time to enter that line on WeRelate yet. The Shotwell family was in Jackson County, Georgia and Laurens County, South Carolina. --Beth 00:34, 5 June 2008 (EDT)


Shotwell/Jackson marriage [5 June 2008]

I think that there might be a rather quick way of looking at this situation. I think by simple deduction, we can narrow the probability of when they married.

Your information is that:

1. Mary Jackson was born 22 Jan 1727/1728

2. She married Abraham Shotwell 28 12m (Feb) 1750/1751

That puts her age at the time of marriage at 23 years.

Placing my date of marriage of 1841 into this information seems rather unlikely as that would put the age of Mary at the time of marriage at 13 or 14 years. I believe that Quakers had an age of majority which was 18 for women and 21 for men. I can't find anything definitive, but teenage brides tend to be an anomally in most Christian faiths. This, again, is pure speculation on my behalf.--Kim Ostermyer 11:37, 5 June 2008 (EDT)


Jackson's in some of my books [24 June 2008]

Hi Janie, Sorry but I don't have the time to enter this data by category so will type it here and let you parse it out. --Beth 20:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Source: Death And Marriage Notices From Autauga County, Alabama Newspapers 1853-1889 by Larry E. Caver, Jr. [Janie there is already a source for this one under Caver, Larry E.) Notes about the source, dates of the newspaper are given. The page numbers that I am posting are from the book.

Death Notices from The Autauga Citizen.

page 12 - 01 Mar 1860: It becomes our melancholy duty to announce to our readers the death of our distinguished fellow citizen, General C. M. Jackson, who died at his residence in this county on Sunday last, the 26th inst. (ult.). . . He frequently represented Autauga County in the State Legislature, and two years ago, was unanimously elected Speaker of the House . . . His remains were attended to the grave by the neighboring Masonic & Odd Fellows Lodge . . . (lengthy article)

page 33 - 29 Jun 1876: Died at is home in Elmore County on the night of the 23rd, Nick Jackson, colored, aged about 60 years. The deceased was the old body servant of the late C. M. Jackson . . .

page 43

18 July 1878 Seaborn Jackson of Coosa County, committed suicide the 25th ultimate.

25 July 1878

We learned that Dr. Bolling Jackson, a former resident of our city, was killed last week on the Mississippi River near Old Point Chicot, Arkansas.

Death Notices from Prattville Progress.

page 137 - 06 Sep 1889- The funeral services over the remains of Mrs. Julia Jackson Christian, daughter of Stonewall Jackson, who died in Lexington, Virginia, on Friday, took place Sunday morning at the Presbyterian Church at Lexington. The body was interred beside her father, General Thomas J. Jackson.

Marriage Notices from The Autauga Citizen.

page 148 - 09 Mar 1865: Married at the residence of William C. Howell in Prattville, on Tuesday evening, the 7th inst., Mr. William B. Jackson and Miss Eva M. Harber, all of this county.

Marriage Notices: The Southern Signal

page 177 - 05 Jan 1883: Married at the residence of the bride's father in Mulberry, [Autauga County - Beth Gay inserted this] on the 21st of December, Mr. T. M. Jackson and Miss Miream M. Cory. The groom is the cashier at the Pratt Mines and the bride, one of Autauga's loveliest daughters.

Larry has the dates in present day, such as January, 5, 1883. If their are any spelling errors they are probably mine. Most if not all of the newspapers are microfilmed and available at the Alabama Archives & History through interlibrary loan. He also used the superscripts for 10th etc. --Beth 20:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

New book: {Source: Death And Marriage Notices From Jefferson County, Alabama Newspapers Volume I (1854-1881), by Larry E. Caver, Jr.; 2002; Pioneer Publishing Co., P. O. Box 408, Carrollton, MS 38917.

Page numbers are from the book and dates from the newspaper edition; I also have entered the dates differently; by the usual genealogy entry method.

Death Notices from The Birmingham Observer:

page 29 - 23 Sep 1881: Died Wednesday evening, in this place, Mr. Bunk Jackson, a well-known engineer on the South & North road. He died of typhoid fever.

Death Notices from The Birmingham Iron Age

page 40 - 11 Jun 1874 - John Lewis and Hardy Jackson, colored [colored is intalics in the book, Beth], living in Montgomery County, had a quarrel about some land, and John closed the argument by shooting Hardy dead with his little musket. He was arrested and committed to jail without bail.

page 108 - 20 Aug 1879 - The following unpleasant intelligence appears in a special dispatch to the Nashville American [in italics in the book of Friday, from Florence: The sad intelligence has just reached the town that Hon. James Jackson, Probate Judge of this county, was killed late this evening, about ten miles east of Florence. With a party of ladies and gentlemen he and his only daughter were returning from a picnic on Muscle Shoals canal. A pair of frightened horses in the rear ran against his buggy with such force that he was thrown and killed instantly. Miss Jackson fortunately escaped with slight injuries. The deceased wass in the Confederate Service, in which he commanded the 29th Alabama Regiment with distinction.

Marriage Notices From The Birmingham Iron Age

page 177 - 25 Aug 1881 - Died, in Summerfield, the 5th, Mrs. Elizabeth Jackson, aged 74 years.

page 212 - 26 Nov 1874 - Married, at the residence of the bride's father, in this county, by Reverend William Barton, Mr. David Jackson and Miss Mary Linn.

page 240 - 26 Jan 1881 - Married at Trussville, the 10th instant, by G. W. Cross, J. P., T. A. M. Jackson and Alice Murphy.

page 241 - 26 Jan 181 - Married in Hale County, the 6th, W. H. Jackson and Ida Burford.

page 245 - 09 Feb 1881 - Married, near Troy [Pike County, Alabama, from Beth], the 25th ultimo, John Jackson and Margaret Patterson. . .

page 248 - 09 Feb 1881 - . . . Married in Limestone County, recently, G. A. Jackson and Mary E. McCravy.

page 277 - 18 Aug 1881 - Married in Franklin County, W. M. Jackson to Francis M. Grissom.

--Beth 22:16, 24 June 2008 (EDT)


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Carlock [13 September 2008]

Hi Janiejac...

There are a couple of versions of the map on the site, but the most useful version is the basic image at

Image:Thompsons Creek Boundry Map.jpg I say "most useful" because the annotations, such as they are, can be brought up from this version (There's a limitation in th WeRelate implementation of WikiMedia that's on Dallan's todo list, but its a while off I suspect before it gets fixed. Eventually the annotations should appear when then image is displayed in an article.

Settlers of Thompsons Creek, Washington County, VA is also helpful because it includes the names of more of the settlers, though not the annotations.


There's a start for Carlock Family in Southwest Virginia, though it hasn't been carried too far. There are several Carlocks in the area during this period. Brothers Hanchrist and Conrad Carlock being the most prominent in the surviving records. Eventually there will be articles for both, but currently only Hanschrist has a stub beng worked on.

Person:Hanchrist Carlock (1)

Q 08:00, 14 August 2008 (EDT)


Saryfine Jackson

Hi JanieJac. Technically, Carter Co TN is outside the boundaries of SW VA Project, but those boundaries are fairly arbitrary, and Sarafina and her family wouldn't be the first to make there way in who weren't actually in the area. I've toyed with creating a "Wautauga" project to capture these folks down in this area, but I've sort of got my handsfull with just sticking with SWVA. But I find that you can't really cut things off too finely, (no pun intended)---and if I keep going with this eventually almost everything may come into play. People are connected, and its all part of the context I'm building. Post 1800 folk will probably be much later. I've got about a thousand pioneers to deal with just before the revolution as it is.

The Boone connection here is interesting. The Wilderness Tral actually begins at Anderson's Blockhouse, with trails connecting to it from NC and from Virginia to the north. But its common to refer to a branch of the trail connecting from the Yadkin to the Blockhouse as "the NC-TN branch of the Wilderness Trail." Eventually it might be interesting to collect names of folks known to have used THE Wilderness Road, and also those that used the NC branch. You're right, what's on Ancestry is probably covered by copyright, so couldn't be used in an article per se. I'm operating on the principle though, that Talk pages are sort of like personal notes, so I think its OK to keep something like this there, as long as its deleted once the information has been folded into the article.

And I appreciate your keeping me in mind on this. When I see stories like this there's this burning itch to figure out exactly what was going on with these peoples lives, to identify what they context was that underlies the specific tale being told. So much to do, so little time.

Q 21:15, 13 September 2008 (EDT)


[8 November 2008]

Hi there!

Thank you for the assist! :D And feel free to merge/change anything you need to!

As far a Bilbery/Bilbry (Rats, I can't see your original post when I write here...I'm spelling them wrong, I know it!), I'll check with my sister (Who is sorta in charge of our tree), I'd be willing to bet we can change those pages to match :D

Thank you for checking in with me, though! I appreciate it!

As for the rest of the merge... I don't spend a lot of time here these days (I work my Geneology in fits and starts, one year on, one year off... this is an off year). I'll merge the pages later on, or you may feel free to do it today (I'm not being lazy, I'm a teacher and I'm swamped... totally swamped. Genealogy will have to wait a little while :))

Thank you for anything you can help with! :)

---Guy Davis (Aabh)--Aabh 00:56, 8 November 2008 (EST)


Formatting of text [28 November 2008]

Hi Janie,

I noticed your comments about the lack of formatting in your text uploads to WeRelate. Have you tried saving your document in Word as HTML and then uploading; just wondering if that would help. I saved my formatting in my Legacy gedcom upload. I know that the bold and italics were uploaded correctly but not sure about lists. I did not have any tables. --Beth 08:10, 28 November 2008 (EST)


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Nathaniel Moore and Sarah Jackson [31 March 2009]

I followed your link to your website. Thank you for posting that.

Most sources I see match the Nathaniel Moore who was b. 1642, son of Thomas Moore and Martha Youngs, to Sarah Vail, the dau. of Jeremiah Vail. This Nathaniel's will of 19 Apr 1698 mentions his wife Sarah and a brother-in-law Jeremiah Vail, which seems to suggest this is correct.

The Nathaniel Moore who married Sarah Jackson and was father of John Jackson Moore is generally identified as this Nathaniel's nephew, the son of Thomas Moore and supposedly Elizabeth Mott. This does seem to match the birthdate of a son John in 1691 better than the uncle Nathaniel.

The most reliable source I have found giving this position is Southold Index of 1698. I have seem the Jacob Milton Bergen book and believe they confused the two Nathaniels, not hard to imagine given all the Sarahs, Thomases, etc. floating around, and not much primary evidence.

I have no information about Sarah Jackson's birth date, listed as about 1654 on your website, but this Nathaniel was probably born in the neighborhood of 1665. I saw the one website quoted as a source for Sarah's birth, but certain characteristics make me believe (perhaps unfairly, but unlike yours, it lists no sources) this website is merely a compendium of other websites.

--Jrich 11:16, 30 January 2009 (EST)


Actually the website I was referring to was website: www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/4653/moore.html, Pomroy, Donald G. It was listed as the source of Sarah's birthdate in 1654, which I think is a minor conflict if Nathaniel wasn't born until 1664 or after. --Jrich 22:45, 30 January 2009 (EST)


I was reading Harry Macy's article on Richard Jackson and his wives and noticed a footnote where he says some people mistakenly believe Nathaniel Moore m. Sarah Vail, and he referenced an article in Suffolk County Historical Society Register that apparently refutes this. I believe it is an article entitled Thomas Moore descendants, Southold, NY, spread over several issues of Vol 1 (1975-1976). I am trying to track it down, but it appears that my library does not have a complete set...

I haven't changed my data, since I have yet to see this article. On the other hand, Harry Macy places Sarah Jackson's birth in 1654 on some decent evidence, namely that it appears her mother, --- (Washburn) Jackson, died in 1656 since probate documents dated 1659 for William Washburn talk about them caring for a child of Richard Jackson's for three years (and in any event, she was certainly dead by 1659). While it is not a law that the husband had to be older, this would make Sarah about 8 or more years older than the younger Nathaniel Moore, which is a significant gap, and probably unlikely. --Jrich 21:23, 7 February 2009 (EST)


Cross another source off the list of potential helps. I located the article on the Moores of Southold in the Suffolk County Historical Society Register. It is written by Barrington S. Havens. He lists several sources including the article on the Moore family in NYGBR and others.

Regarding the issue at hand: which Nathaniel Moore m. Sarah Jackson. He shows the first Nathaniel Moore, s/o Thomas Moore, marrying Sarah Vail. He apparently never saw Robert Jackson's will, because after one mention that one source names her as Sarah Jackson, he uses Sarah Vail everywhere else he refers to her. There is no marriage specified for the younger Nathaniel Moore (nephew) and the identification of Jeremiah Vail as a brother-in-law is not included in the abstract of the older Nathaniel's will, so this whole controversy does not get explained.

Despite the fact that the abstract of the will only names a son Nathaniel, the author places a son John Moore in Nathaniel's family (and other sons). (If Nathaniel's wife was Sarah Jackson, this would presumably be the John often referred to as John Jackson Moore?) This John Moore is said to have married Elizabeth Cheek, his son John is shown marrying Rachel Conklin, and that John's son John is identified as the one who married Mehitable Havens. (It does not agree with my information which says John Jackson Moore m. (1) Mary ---, m. (2) Rachel Conklin, but I have little proof.)

At the end of the article, there is a bibliography that includes most of the important sources for this family, but the lineage presented here seems to be based mostly on the Journal of the First Settlers of Southold by Augustus Griffin.

--Jrich 23:43, 30 March 2009 (EDT)


Location Assistance..... [8 February 2009]

If you have better location information than mere town or county references, you can always use the GIS data to nail down the location. I added some commentary on the watercooler but I wanted to make sure you knew about it. If you need help getting the GIS numbers for a location, you can use the mapping site, [1], zoom in to whatever you need and the coordinates will be sitting there for you to grab.

Good luck...--Jrm03063 00:05, 8 February 2009 (EST)


Can I read your story? [8 February 2009]

Janiejac,

Since your post to the watercooler, you've got me curious about your disputed ancestry challenge. I'd like to read about it. I visited your web site but could not find the right link. If you'd prefer to send it to me via email, I'm at jillainedc AT yahoo.com. Thanks.

jillaine 10:07, 8 February 2009 (EST)


Interesting Project - Slave People Pages [14 February 2009]

Hello Janie,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Life is a bit crazy.

I do not think we have corresponded about a Jackson Stonewall connection. It is not ringing a bell.

My thought about the Slave People Pages is pretty simple and for now low key.

I have a few ancestors and related people (son in laws, etc) that genealogical records, wills, etc. show had slaves. Some of these are named in these records. First names though. There is always a possibility that these slaves are related to our ancestors. President Jefferson's slaves as an example (if I remember right).

Many slaves moved out of the state they lived in after the Civil War.

Your Researcher's research would be a good addition as well.

There has been such a discussion on the European names, that I did not want to just start doing the slave people pages without an agreed to system.

Looking forward to your input, and others

Debbie Freeman --DFree 20:09, 14 February 2009 (EST)

For people enslaved; I would seek input from the USF Africana Heritage Project. Dallan and WeRelate are associated with this project and the creation of the digital library. See this blog: [[2]]--Beth 21:18, 14 February 2009 (EST)


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I have an idea about copying your GEDCOM from the sandbox [14 March 2009]

Hi,

I just thought of something I could do to make copying your GEDCOM from the sandbox a little easier once we get the new GEDCOM upload process on the main site: After the new GEDCOM upload process is working on the main site, if you upload the exact same GEDCOM file to this site, I can copy all of the person, family, source, and place matches that you had done on the sandbox site over here so that you don't have to re-match them. You'd still have to re-do the merges (re-update any Wiki pages that you had updated on the sandbox), but at least identifying the right matches would be done for you. I hope to have the new GEDCOM upload working on the main site by the end of this week. What do you think?--Dallan 13:35, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks Dallan for considering a way to save some work. But I'm just chalking it up to a learning experience and want to start over. I think I accepted duplicate sources not knowing any better. There are two of us uploading some overlapping info so some of it I'm cleaning up today and some will not be uploaded until the new upload function is brought over. --Janiejac 14:17, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

Sounds good. Thank you for your patience.--Dallan 00:55, 15 March 2009 (EDT)


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Navigation [17 March 2009]

Hi Janiejac

I noticed the following comment on Solveig's talk page:

In time, it will be hard to remember in which tree a person is located. I'm wondering if that will cause me a problem.

You are quite right, without someway to keep track of what's been created, the inability to relocate articles, or even remember that they've been created, is going to be a problem downstream. While I don't make use of "trees", I have this same problem in spades. Most of the person articles I create are unrelated to anyone else in my card set. Finding a particular person, or even remembering that I've created them, can be a problem after awhile. The improved search function helps....but only if you remember who it is you are looking for!

There are a couple of solutions that I've found work, with varying degrees of success.

a. Category. One way to do this is to add a "category" tag to the top card of each of your trees.---Say a label like "Janijac's Trees" e.g., insert [[Category:JaniJac's Trees]] somewhere on the page (The usual convention is that category tag's go in at the top, but they can be placed anywhere you want. Then when you want to locate a particular tree you can go to the category page and see all the one's you've tagged.

That's an easy solution, with a minimum of fuss. The next one is a bit more complicated, but is in someways more straightforward.

b. My preferred solution to this to create "Navigation Pages", with links to key articles. That's the main purpose of the "front door" to the Southwest Virginia Project---those images link to various parts of the project, and each subsequent page has its own set of links so you can navigate through the project with a least some sence of where you need to go to find something.

You probably don't need anything quite so elaborate, but you might create a simple page of links, with each link perhaps pointing to the "top" of each of your sub tree's. This page might give you an idea about how to do that: Family Lines in Southwest Virginia

This is still being refined, but if you click the link to the Edmondson family (bottom left), it will take you to a page that, among other things, contains links to key individuals in this family, plus various sources, and related articles.

I use both approaches in my own work, though the second aproach is one I use more consistently. Q 08:15, 17 March 2009 (EDT)


You can also go to the "My Contributions" page under the "More" navigation button to see what you've contributed. I like Q's category idea, but there is no easy way to add that to each and every page of your tree. A nice upgrade to the GEDCOM upload feature would be an option to add a category to every page of your tree. I'll go suggest that in the appropriate place. -- jillaine 08:45, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
I would guess that for JanieJac's problem she only needs to locate the tree she's interested in by inserting a category marker on a key card within that tree. Might be the top card, or might be some other "Memorable" person of interest to her. While the trees are not my thing, it appears to me that there is a LOT of work needed to make them functionally useful. There are a lot of really clever features associated with the tree's, but I suspect this is one of several reasons this site is still in Beta mode. Its by far superior to any of the other Wiki attempts, but their are problems left to be solved. Q 08:54, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Still another thing you can do is click on "Trees" in the "MyRelate" menu, then click on "View" to get a searchable list of people in your tree.--Dallan 15:01, 17 March 2009 (EDT)


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Red Text [26 March 2009]

Hello Janiejac,

I will try to help. Like you I too am learning the wiki system.

The Red color in the text usually indicates that you have created a webpage, but not edited that page. An example would be a MySource. If you click on the link that is red it will take you to that webpage, you can then edit it such as mentioning who this source links to whom, writing why this Mysource is important, etc. Then preview, then save, that will make it blue. Or if you are like me on occasion you do not write it just right ie period, comma's etc in the title to be recognized by the server for a community source. If you locate a Community source that you would use often such as a census, if you watch it it will make it easier to locate later.

As for the other question on titling you might want to look in the help under that word. As I understand it your question needs to be more precise. Locations are one title format, Country, County, etc. Sources such as books are usually author first, then title except for geographical source books.

Hope this helps some.

Debbie Freeman --DFree 18:21, 26 March 2009 (EDT)


More about categories [29 March 2009]

Did I point you to this one?

Category:Carter_in_Massachusetts

This is an example of a Category page that has been edited. All the names on the lower portion are added automatically, but the text at the top was added by me. Adding such text changes the link to this page from Red to Blue wherever it may appear. It's also a way of organizing data about a surname in a given place. Frankly, I think it's better than creating separate article pages. but that's just my personal preference. -- jillaine 20:07, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


MySource with Email address [2 April 2009]

Janie, you asked about fixing a MySource that contained an email address, that you want to get rid of so it doesn't appear whenever the source is used. Is it in the title? Or are you using a template in someway? Either way, if you change the title the problem should go away. If it appears in the body of the MySource, and you're using a template, you have to remove it from the body as well. Q 20:27, 2 April 2009 (EDT)


Deleting pages [27 April 2009]

Hi, Hope all is well with you and yours. I didn't know if you knew that you can delete any page for which you are the only contributor. The delete option is under the More menu. You still have to put pages with multiple contributors into the Speedy Delete category. See you around.  :)--sq 09:33, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Opps my mistake. This only works for person or family pages for which you are the only person watching the page. You still have to put all other pages in Category:Speedy Delete. :)--sq 10:35, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

re: Helping me with maiden/married names [15 June 2009]

Thank you for the assist! :D My sister started building our GedCom more than a decade ago... before there were a lot of rules on how to do it... now there's 3,500 records in that GedCom, which means almost 2,000 names in the wrong format... If you come across them, feel very, very free to fix them as you see fit. (I'm doing it too :D) :D Aabh 10:47, 15 June 2009 (EDT)


GWJax_by_Marda.ged Ready for Review [16 June 2009]

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Parking data [21 June 2009]

Janiejac, you wrote elsewhere:

So I guess I'm using werelate as a place to park info I've researched and want to keep and/or share with others -...I hope this isn't considered a mis-use of the site. If I ever know any more about these folks, I'll add it, but for now, until someone knows something more, their person pages are going to look very empty. That's all; just wanted you to know, I was thinking of you tonight. --Janiejac 00:59, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
Janiejac, FYI, I think this is this is one of the really GOOD ways WeRelate can be used. I use a variety of techniques to capture information for future reference. Sometimes those notebooks are "data capture" notebooks where I extract information from specific sources of interest (e.g, Chalkley's Chronicles of the Scotch Irish). Sometimes I use them to capture information sent me by colleagues interested in a particular family. This way I can link the information back to person pages. I usually place a link to the appropriate notebooks on the person page as part of an extended TOC-directory. That way this bits and pieces of information (so easily forgotten) can be recovered later when more information is available. Here's an example Notebook:Porter_Family_in_Southwest_Virginia Q 08:52, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

Samuel_Virginia20090621forJack.ged Ready for Review [21 June 2009]

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Samuel_Virginia20090621forJack.ged Imported Successfully [22 June 2009]

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JamesStrother.ged appears to overlap a previously-imported GEDCOM [22 June 2009]

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JamesStrother.ged Ready for Review [22 June 2009]

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Overlapping gedcom [23 June 2009]

Hi Janie, interested in how this works for you. I am overwhelmed by trying to enter data in Legacy and WeRelate and sometimes on my private tree on Ancestry. I began by entering new data on my Coker name study just on WeRelate, but found out that I could not share my information in report mode with other researchers. I recruited a few Coker researchers to WeRelate, but they just dropped their gedcoms off and left. Well one did merge his pages which I am thankful for. Then I attempted to add the new information back to Legacy, but haven't finished that project either. I now enter the information in all of my genealogical endeavors but it is too time consuming. --Beth 21:08, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

I can certainly relate to what you're doing. I'm working with Jack McAnally on a special Project. He created an ancestry.com chart with what little we knew and invited me to be an editor with him. So I use that for searching ancestry's data bases, but I'm also trying to keep it all on my desktop program. We have trouble staying in sync so I suggested WeRelate where we each could input what we were finding. But we still needed ancestry for searching. Then he just couldn't handle a wiki environment so he abandoned that part. Then someone else joined us and sent their GEDCOM. So as we go along, I'm trying to put all the pieces together on WeRelate just hoping I'll be able to download it all in one tree/chart/whatever - something where we all can get the whole picture on our desktops.
Anyway, the upload of my small addition seemed to go well, though it hasn't had administrative approval yet. The wait time between uploading and approval is a bit frustrating because I get my mind off it during the wait. My main concern is to go back and double check all the family pages because I'm very uneasy about the sources. I can handle the merging of duplicate persons OK, but I'm uncertain if the various merged sources still remain referring to the correct item. That still is confusing to me, so I'll be checking that after approval is rec'd.
This has become a full-time, non-profit job for me. I doubt if folks without a large chuck of time to put into this will stick with it. But I love the concept and no matter the frustrations, I keep coming back. --Janiejac 23:11, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
Well, I learned it doesn't recognize duplicates as well as I hoped. Perhaps because in the first record of Family:Unknown Strother and Nancy Jackson I didn't have dates and in the new upload their record was updated to be Family:Lewis Strother and Nancy Jackson. So I just happened onto that and merged them. Which also caused other pgs to be merged.
But now I'm still looking for some new persons that I was sure I was uploading and can't find them now. Was I mistaken or did they just get lost somehow? Since this line keeps naming their children after parents, aunts and uncles, it sure gets confusing. There are only abt 10 or 12 of them so I'll input them manually, but it's hard to believe I just didn't upload them! Strange . . . --Janiejac 14:14, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

JamesStrother.ged Imported Successfully [23 June 2009]

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Pleasant Jackson [28 June 2009]

Hi Janie, I found a Pleasant Jackson, male, age 41, born in North Carolina near my Coleman family in the 1850 US Butler County census in Alabama. The female age 24 is Lucy Ann and the oldest child in the family is George , age 9. Everyone in the household except Pleasant were born in Alabama according to the census. Civility, age 6, female and Andrew, age 2 round out this household. Are you interested in Pleasant Jackson or perhaps you already have this data? First time I have ever come across the name Civility; is this common usage with the Jackson family? --Beth 22:00, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

Thanks Beth. No this is a new name to me! What do you bet there is Quaker background in this family?! If I ever get my current research out of Virginia, I want to tackle some North Carolina Jacksons. I've got 2 or 3 brick walls there. Thanks for keeping me in mind.--Janiejac 22:10, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

SamlandMaryFarrow.ged appears to overlap a previously-imported GEDCOM [5 July 2009]

The pages from this GEDCOM have not yet been generated because they appear to match pages from a GEDCOM you have previously imported to WeRelate.

If you have already imported a GEDCOM containing people in this GEDCOM and you want to replace that tree with this GEDCOM, you need to delete that tree first so duplicates aren't created when you import this GEDCOM. Click on Trees in the "My Relate" menu, then click on the "delete" link next to that tree. Please be aware that any pages in the tree that are being watched by others won't get deleted. Once that tree is deleted you can create a new tree and re-upload this GEDCOM into it. (We're planning to make re-uploading GEDCOM files much simpler soon.)

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--WeRelate agent 23:16, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

SamlandMaryFarrow.ged Ready for Review [5 July 2009]

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SamlandMaryFarrow.ged [6 July 2009]

I've reviewed your gedcom and am releasing it. However, I noticed that you did not match some of the families. Please review your duplicates list tomorrow. --Judy (jlanoux) 06:43, 6 July 2009 (EDT)


SamlandMaryFarrow.ged Imported Successfully [6 July 2009]

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Augusta County [13 July 2009]

Hi Janie,

Here is the information on the boundaries of Old Augusta County, (although arguably it could have gone all the way to the Pacific Ocean):

Originally, Augusta County was a vast territory with an indefinite western boundary. Most of what is now West Virginia as well as all of Kentucky were formed from it, and it also claimed the territory north and west of those areas, theoretically all the way to the Pacific Ocean. (source: Wikipedia.com)

In addition to much of what is now Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky and West Virginia, present Virginia Counties formed up to 1800 from Augusta County include: Botetourt (1770), Fincastle (formed from Botetourt in 1772), Monongalia (1776), Ohio (1776), Yohogania (1776, abolished in 1786), Montgomery (1776), Washington (1777), Illinois (1778, abolished in 1784), Rockingham (1778), Rockbridge (1778), Hardy (1786), Harrison (1784), Randolph (1786), Russell (1786), Pendleton (1788), Greenbrier (1778), Bath (1790), Wythe (1790), Lee (1792), Grayson (1792), Brooke (1797) Wood (1798) and Tazewell (1800). Source: http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps.htm

For this project, we are concentrating primarily on the areas of the Beverley and Borden Tracts and some of the outlying areas (Calfpasture, Cowpasture, Bullpasture, Goshen Pass, James River Settlements, etc.) To try to do more than that would be too large of a task.

Hope that answers your question. If any of your ancestors fall into these areas, feel free to include them with the accompanying documentation and records.

Best regards,

Jim:)

Thanks for your response. West Virginia is my home state but I have to admit ignorance about it's early history. It will be interesting to see your Project evolve. I do know a bit about the two Jackson lines in early Harrison Co. One line descends from my immigrant ancestor, Robert Jackson of Hempstead, Queens, the other line is the line that produced Stonewall Jackson. These two lines both had an Edward Jackson as early settlers in Harrison County and sometimes the descendants were hard for later researchers to differentiate. But the lines have been pretty well established now. I wish you well with your Project and will keep an eye on it. --Janiejac 12:03, 13 July 2009 (EDT)


Your message:

Old Augusta includes Culpepper, Prince William ??? [13 July 2009] I'm wondering just what is the scope of the 'Old Augusta' Project? I saw something about Culpepper County and it caught my eye because I've been wishing someone would do a study on Northern Neck Virginia which would (I think) include Culpepper, Prince William, Fauquier etc. I've just recently discovered that some of the Jacksons there are connected by DNA to Robert Jackson of Hempstead, Queens, NY; so I'm just beginning to study that area. (Because I have a website dedicated to the descendants of Robert Jackson.) But the connection must be back in the late 1600s or early 1700s and this is breaking new ground for me. If your Project includes those area, I sure want to be watching it! --Janiejac 09:59, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

Retrieved from "http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User_talk:Delijim"--Delijim 11:27, 13 July 2009 (EDT)


Newbie status [17 July 2009]

Hi Janie, Your newbie status is no longer available. You have been here longer than I have. <g> Dallan has a plan to have a section for newbies to ask questions but that has not been implemented yet. Volunteers are already so busy with the other projects but I am sure that after these projects are finished something along the lines that you are requesting will be created.

I just asked dumb questions anywhere and everywhere when I joined WeRelate. I downloaded all of the tutorials and just worked my way through the entire site. I don't always remember everything unless I use a feature regularly so I have created my own tips page and am adding items as I see a need for reminders.--Beth 01:40, 17 July 2009 (EDT)


Research in Virginia [21 July 2009]

Hi Janie,

Many of the original land patents from the Northern Neck are available at the Library of Virginia online: [3].

Also the Library of Virgina has one of the best interlibrary loan programs ever. Link: [4]

Regarding microfilm or microfiche:

Books and Microfilm

Microfilm and microfiche are circulated through ILL only. All loans are for 28 days. All materials except overdue items and archival microfilm (county records, vital statistics, etc.) may be renewed one time for an additional 28 days. There is a 5 volume or 5 reel limit per patron.

There are no charges for loans.

Janie, I was required to pay the return postage by my local city library. --Beth 23:52, 21 July 2009 (EDT)


GeorgeW.ged appears to overlap a previously-imported GEDCOM [25 July 2009]

The pages from this GEDCOM have not yet been generated because they appear to match pages from a GEDCOM you have previously imported to WeRelate.

If you have already imported a GEDCOM containing people in this GEDCOM and you want to replace that tree with this GEDCOM, you need to delete that tree first so duplicates aren't created when you import this GEDCOM. Click on Trees in the "My Relate" menu, then click on the "delete" link next to that tree. Please be aware that any pages in the tree that are being watched by others won't get deleted. Once that tree is deleted you can create a new tree and re-upload this GEDCOM into it. (We're planning to make re-uploading GEDCOM files much simpler soon.)

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--WeRelate agent 20:55, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

GeorgeW.ged Ready for Review [27 July 2009]

Welcome to WeRelate! WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

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I did not merge the two cards of George Jackson and Nancy Strother because I wanted Dallan to see what happened when I opened the window to merge them. The window was way wider than normal and made it difficult to see both records. I don't know who will be reviewing the import to tell them.--Janiejac 16:48, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

GeorgeW.ged Imported Successfully [27 July 2009]

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Editing Cemetery Category [28 July 2009]

Hello, thanks for working on cemetery stuff! So did you try directly editing the Category:Cemeteries of West Virginia, United States? Category pages are automatically generated based on what other pages are part of the category, so trying to edit it directly won't work. To see what you have to do, take a look at Category:Cemeteries of Cabell, West Virginia, United States as an example. Edit the page so you can see the source. There's only one line, which is [[Category:Cemeteries of West Virginia, United States|Cabell]]. That's almost exactly what you'll add to any page you want to show up in the Cemeteries of West Virginia page. The "Cabell" part is specific to the Cemeteries of Cabell page, though, and tells the Cemeteries of West Virginia category how to alphabetize it. So you'll want to change that to reflect the name of whatever page you're adding to the category. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.--JoshHansen 18:50, 28 July 2009 (EDT)


Cemetery Portal [29 July 2009]

I happened to see your messages on JoshHansen's page about the cemetery portal. I've been linking cemeteries there, myself. If I'm understanding your question correctly, I think you might be editing the wrong page. To get a cemetery to appear on a county cemetery page, for example, you add [[Category:Cemeteries of XXX, YYY, United States|ZZZ]] somewhere on the cemetery's Place page (not on the Category page). XXX = name of county, YYY = name of state, ZZZ = name of cemetery.

Similarly, if you've added links to cemeteries in counties that aren't listed under that state yet, you can edit that county page and add [[Category:Cemeteries of YYY, United States|XXX]] . This will link the county category to the state category.

If that wasn't really your question, let me know and I'll try again :-) -- amy (Ajcrow)22:08, 29 July 2009 (EDT)


Sorry -- I should have looked at your talk page before I sent you the message. I didn't realize Josh had already answered you. -- amy (Ajcrow) 22:10, 29 July 2009 (EDT)


Sorting the Bibb County Canterbury family [12 August 2009]

Hi Janie,

How are ya? I am still entering data on this worksheet. I lack the knowledge necessary to create a template for a standard worksheet but if someone else does it may help. My Canterbery data has been languishing in my file folders; some of it since 2000 and some in 2005. What do you think? Should I have a standard name for the article that someone else may use by substituting their surname and location and have someone to try and create a template or just forget the idea? Link to Worksheet: Sorting the Bibb County Canterbury family--Beth 22:48, 12 August 2009 (EDT)


Broken Link for Henry Peyton & Sarah Grigsby [21 August 2009]

hi Janie, I checked the link and could not find an updated website for the person whose site I found the information.... :( Guess it's one of the problems with the internet. I did find a discussion of your line on Rootweb, just in case you haven't seen it.... :)

http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/MOHOWARD/2000-04/0955458740

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 19:34, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

Thanks Jim. No I hadn't seen that. My searching for Jacksons just took me to the Grigsby and Peyton families in the last couple of months and I probably would never have seen that. This is not my direct line, but at this point, I'm collecting info on anybody connected to the Jacksons in Prince William County! Casting a wide net.

--Janiejac 23:07, 21 August 2009 (EDT)


Finding Things [22 August 2009]

You asked "How can I go see what it ought to be if I can't find it by searching for it?" -- I've wondered the exact same thing! I have a feeling there are going to be a LOT of duplicate pages when we're done with the Renaming Project. --Amy (Ajcrow) 20:43, 22 August 2009 (EDT)


John Jax Loudoun VA.ged appears to overlap a previously-imported GEDCOM [25 August 2009]

The pages from this GEDCOM have not yet been generated because they appear to match pages from a GEDCOM you have previously imported to WeRelate.

If you have already imported a GEDCOM containing people in this GEDCOM and you want to replace that tree with this GEDCOM, you need to delete that tree first so duplicates aren't created when you import this GEDCOM. Click on Trees in the "My Relate" menu, then click on the "delete" link next to that tree. Please be aware that any pages in the tree that are being watched by others won't get deleted. Once that tree is deleted you can create a new tree and re-upload this GEDCOM into it. (We're planning to make re-uploading GEDCOM files much simpler soon.)

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--WeRelate agent 22:31, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
Hi Janiejac, let me know if you'd like to import this GEDCOM anyway.--Dallan 00:57, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [31 August 2009]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded John Jax Loudoun VA.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

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John Jax Loudoun VA.ged Imported Successfully [1 September 2009]

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thank you [5 September 2009]

Hey Janie : ) thank you for your message.... I didn't even know I HAD a user talk page.... that's how new I am : ) I'm still finishing up the transcription and making a separate tree for the book, but I will follow your advice when I am ready to post it.(unless I hear otherwise from the bigwigs: ) Thank you again for taking the time to respond. I think the reason why the whole watercooler/portal thing threw me, is that I'm used to regular forums. but, hey! I can adapt : ) I am very thankful for the "free" part of the wiki. I use Ancestry and other sites, but I would never want to post my tree there... for a variety of reasons. thanks again, Amelia Buckaroo : )--88buckaroo 20:09, 4 September 2009 (EDT)


Your Source/Mysource stuff [5 September 2009]

I took a swing at converting your mysource to a source, as well as the various citations. Please let me know what you think... --Jrm03063 22:02, 4 September 2009 (EDT)


Re: fixing my source & citations [6 September 2009]

You are entirely too kind, thank you.

I was able to rework the citations you mention very quickly, because there are really only two forms present. One form is just the name of the work with no other information. The other form points at the specific page 382-383 section. I was able to keep the contents of the updated volume/page field in the clipboard, and drop it in on all the pages that needed it without retyping much (the "transcript" link is not any sort of standard, but an idea that I've been toying with in another source I've been messing around with). The other item that helped is that the "source" fields are smart - when you type in the beginning of a source and then linger a bit, you'll see a list of possible candidates that already exist with the partial name you've entered. It happens, that the "MySource" name you entered, is a correct prefix string of the corresponding "Source" page. So I was able to just change the source type and remove your name from the prefix. Then "werelate" automatically suggested the correct "source", which I just clicked without having to type it fully.

With respect to "getting your stuff ready" for werelate, I would not worry yourself too much. Particularly if you havn't suffered from the "grab the on-line/CD data base syndrome". The point of werelate is not just to get your work out there for others to use and enjoy, but also to get help with the work. With a database the size of yours, it is a near certainty that there are other researchers - working on WR right now - that share some of that ancestry. Also, something done in good faith and with even basic attention to detail is always better than nothing. The MySource citations you had, didn't prevent Jrich from figuring out what you had there - rather, he DID figure out what you had, and together we came up with a refined source page, citations, etc.

I was just remarking to someone else about a sort of genealogical epiphany that I had a couple years back. The only way to really protect and save "my information" on "my tree" was to essentially give up all proprietary interest and put it out there for others to use, add to, improve (fix) etc. Saving "your stuff" by giving it away.

Anyway though, WR is still going through a lot of growth in learning what might be called the "best practices" for doing source citations and so forth. Don't be shy - you're obviously a reasonably careful person who has done a lot of good stuff - JUMP IN!

Anyway, best regards and thanks again for your kind words. --Jrm03063 11:31, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

Hi Janie, I agree with Jrm. You are remarkable at age 80; I hope I am functioning as well as you when I turn 80. The person pages versus family pages is a dilemma. I have always entered all of my detailed data on the person page. On the family page I only show the marriage. This decision was made years ago when I found that the genie programs I used separated the family data and person data in reports. Two reports are the chronology report and the family group sheet. I did not like the items separated so I just used the person page. I do not plan to change my data entry system regarding same for WeRelate. --Beth 19:27, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Source:John Strother, 1781-1863, Family Bible John Strother family bible [7 September 2009]

Hi - this title is on the source review list I'm going over. I note that you already went through a discussion on how to title the page; if it goes through the source renaming project it will change again. So I'm about to make a couple of changes to try to get the page as close as possible to the title you gave it (and reflecting the title the repository gives it, so someone can find it if they search there).

Will you take a look at it and be sure you agree with the changes (given the renaming project pending)? Thanks. --Brenda (kennebec1) 08:46, 7 September 2009 (EDT)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [21 September 2009]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

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Northern Neck Research Guide [8 October 2009]

Glad I could help.

If you're ever interested in how a particular thing is done, don't forget that you can pick any page that contains an example of what you're trying to do, open it for editing, inspect the code, and then cancel. Not the most orderly way to learn, but brute-force practical.

Of the people specifically noted in the guide, all but one already existed in WR. The (former) exception being Col. Nicholas Spencer. I spent a bit of time this AM adding him and the immediate family linkages that I could glean from WP. Through a not-too-tortured set of linkages, I was able to connect that family with the mass of Nobility/Peerage that I've been working through for about the last year. When the agent runs this weekend, that page, and a few others nearby, will get fleshed out with the WP content. I'm also taking advantage of The Peerage to get a little more info in there. While the genealogical purists may be incensed, I'm a big believer in boot-strapping on any free content I can get.

Best Regards, --Jrm03063 12:15, 8 October 2009 (EDT)


Northern Neck Stuff... [8 October 2009]

I wanted to give you another syntax example for something that I've found useful - the google map link. You'll see it associated with the first "Northern Neck" string. I've found this a pretty handy way to create a sort of light-weight place. If you have something that doesn't exactly fit with the standard place name hierarchy, or even, you have a lot more detail (say, the specific grave site in a large - or even just moderately sized - cemetery).

Actually, in the narrative, the best use would probably be to nail down "Windmill Point" (wherever that is!), but I didn't do that.

Anyway, it's in there, but I'm not sure that I've got it really centered correctly for the area. Also, not sure how detailed and/or what type (hybrid, topo, etc.). Maybe you can use "google earth" to figure out where you want things centered, or possibly, http://mapper.acme.com.

Good luck... --Jrm03063 15:40, 8 October 2009 (EDT)


Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library [12 October 2009]

Jane:

All references to Mary Ball Washington Museum AND LIBRARY need to have the words AND LIBRARY added to the name. The museum is one half of the whole. The other half is THE LIBRARY. Craig--Persisto1 02:39, 12 October 2009 (EDT)


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Thanks Janie [19 October 2009]

Thanks Janie, Craig asked for my help and I must have missed some of the links.--Beth 23:42, 19 October 2009 (EDT)



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