Hello Dallan, this is Steve lewis here. As you can tell from my work on my web material, I am fairly new at this. I am sure I will get through this but be patient!
Just noticed that the name of Margaret Rinehart is spelled incorrectly on her page even after I corrected it! What gives?
My name is Barak, I am a 25 year old guy from Israel. I am researching my Jewish Ashkenazi + Norwegian + Swedish roots.
My family tree, unlike most family trees.... is quite unique... I know for certain of 27 generations back (over 857 years back) and in the last year I found out that I might be able to trace back over 80 generations, 2000 years back, and that there might be a chance that I am a descendent of ancient celebrities such as Mark Antony, Boadicea and Prophet Mohammad..!!!
how is that possible you ask ...?
Well.. Back in the 1980's, my now late Norwegian grandfather, which was into researching his own Norwegian roots, got an expert in the field from his home town to study his family tree and see how far he would get.. He managed to get back as far as Sverre Sigurdsson (1150-1202), one of the first kings of Norway.. Even though most Norwegians today are in one way or another descendents of that king, my grandfather was excited about managing to proving the links through the official historical church books kept. My grandfather had a slight problem back then though - producing a big enough family tree chart to visualize his discovery would take him ages. So all of the information he gathered laid back in his office in a pile of boxes and gathered dust. After he died in 1998 my mother inherited the boxes but she never got to open them up and finishing my grandfathers work.
During the last years I have been trying to digitize my mother's and late grandfather's intensive family tree research on both sides of my family in hope of preserving their valuable work so that my descendants would be able to enjoy it in the future as well and I am hoping to share the information with all my close and distant relatives worldwide. I started the digitization process by using the software "Family Tree Maker", which is able to produce huge family trees (up to 99 generations). I entered all the info we had in the boxes quickly and easily into the program and there is was... The complete family tree the way my grandfather wanted it to be.
After a few weeks of looking at the tree my mother started to re-think if maybe we might get even further back by googling our oldest ancestors... and indeed ... we found out that since the 1980's genealogists have furthered researched the Norwegian Novelty and some unofficial sources share their research online which links our oldest known ancestor to many different directions in the novelty of Europe during the first century and goes as far back as the roman empire. In theory it makes sense, since back in those days novelty only married novelty and they all those ancient VIPs were well documented.
Questions started rising like..
I haven't answered those questions yet.. Because I haven't found such a place on the web to share my knowledge and find out the claims are true.
I've been going over different genealogy wikis during the last year but haven't found the right solution for myself. After finding your site today I was very pleased to see how well you have created it. very well done. I signed up and uploaded my GEDCOME file to the new uploading beta feature (I am supposed to get it ready by Tuesday).
--Barak4u 18:28, 15 February 2007 (MST)
seem to have found the first bug
I didn't manage to add into the image page of this photo http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Image:Even_Mikkelsen_Stenberg_and_wife.jpg a link to the peoples' names and pages.. --Barak4u 16:26, 16 February 2007 (MST)
what to do when ..
one of the people I enetered has his own Wikipedia article ? should I copy the entire content of his Wikipedia article or is it any way to link it so that it works together well automaticly? --Barak4u 16:55, 16 February 2007 (MST)
saw your mug in the mag
Hello both -- I'm just looking thru my latest edition of byu magazine and Dallan's name caught my eye, got your info from the "Colleges Honor 13 Alumni" page (congrats!). My name is Scott Brackney, my wife, the former Laura Hafel, was Solveig's roommate in Heritage Halls, just before y'all (and we'all) got married, way back in 1984. drop us a line at (email removed).
Following the discussion on the Watercooler, I wonder what your opinion on the Geni.com site was. Would you be willing to look at the possibility of some sort of partnership between the sites?--Bjwebb 14:41, 18 February 2007 (MST)
Is it possible to download Gedcom files from pages I create?
Can you copy the page Source:Mayflower families through five generations : descendants of the Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth, Mass., December 1620 (86888) to Source:Mayflower families through five generations: descendants of the Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth, Mass. December 1620, or even better, Source:Mayflower Families Through Five Generations? This will clean up the old name somewhat, though it can be left as a redirect to the new. The LOC uses the long name, but the book refers to itself by the short. --Joeljkp 16:30, 22 March 2007 (MDT)
1. Uploaded a gedcom file and nothing happened.
2. I have one person in tree, but how do I find John Gillespie (1) and (2) to get rid of them. They were entries before I figured out how to do it right?
Dave Gillespie, starfield
I just heard about WeRelate (through DearMyrtle). The features mentioned sounded interesting, so I explored the site. After looking around a bit, I viewed the video and am sorry to say that it's really not very good. In fact, it's fairly terrible because:
1) The image is too small for senior eyes to tell what's going on. 2) It dashes through too many processes much too briefly to be followed. 3) The narration is simply painful.
If I may make some suggestions . . .
Consider breaking the material into a few sections and taking each one more slowly. The current format might make sense to experienced users but I can say from the viewpoint of a potential new user, it's very confusing. I would appreciate something beginning with an introduction explaining the purpose of the site. Is it to facilitate collaboration among researchers, provide a place to archive data, assist family research, replace individual web sites, replace desktop genealogical software? Or some--or all--of these?
Next could come bulletpoint-type examples of the very nice features of the site (without animation). Perhaps examples of some well-designed pages, a sample map with several events included, a typical family tree, a family photo with captions included, etc.
That should be followed by a "getting started" tutorial with choices for uploading a GEDCOM or inputting directly. And then, of course, some suggestions about where to go from there.
Obviously many computer-savvy people are using the site successfully but, in my opinion, broadening the user base will require something to take folks through the process in the ubiquitous "baby-steps." Remember that a very large number of family history researchers are retired folks who are a little reluctant to just jump in and start randomly clicking here and there.
I do hope I'll find the patience to struggle (for me) through putting my data on the site. And whether or not that happens, I wish you good luck with your venture.
Dallan, obrigado pela atenção vou importar novamente o gedcom, abraços --carlosetmenezes 07:39, 8 April 2007 (MDT)
"WeRelate:About sources From WeRelate Our goal is for the source wiki to become a comprehensive database of genealogical sources, both on-line and off-line.
The Source wiki currently includes approximately 1,300,000 sources, including links to over 100,000 websites found on 58,000 unique hosts, 250,000 message boards, and 950,000 off-line microfilms and books found primarily in the Family History Library Catalog.
Everyone can contribute their favorite sources to the wiki. Most of the sources in the wiki were added by WeRelate's genealogy web crawler, but the crawler may have missed your favorite sources (or your favorite sources may be off-line). Please help others by adding your favorite sources to the wiki. First search the wiki to see if your favorite sources are already in there, and if not, please add them. Thank you for your involvement!
The source wiki includes the title of the source, a URL if the source has one, surnames and places covered by the source (usually), and a description (sometimes). Searching the source wiki is a good way to find off-line sources such as microfilms for a particular place and record type, but to search the full text of all pages on source websites, including these wiki pages, you should use the Search button at the top of the page.
[edit section]Related pages Search and browse sources Help on sources"
Retrieved from "http://www.werelate.org/wiki/WeRelate:About_sources"
-click on Search and browse sources and get "No such special page From WeRelate You have requested an invalid special page, a list of valid special pages may be found at Special:Specialpages.
I hit the "e-mail my password" button instead of the "log in" button. I was e-mailed a new password and told to log in and change my password. How do I change my password?
Shirley Palmer email@example.com
Family Tree Explorer source problem
I am sending this directly to you as it contains personal information I don't want on the water cooler.
I uploaded a GEDCOM of the Comegys Family yesterday and started inspecting it today.
There appears, at least to me, a problem with the way you are handling Sources: If you look at the root person (Cornelius Comegys, C 1) and source one. you find my name in the leading position which I believe has no business being their and no author's name. If you look at the GEDCOM you find: 0 @S169@ SOUR 1 TITL Maryland Calender of Wills 1 ABBR WIL MD Calender of Wills 1 AUTH Baldwin, Jane Baldwin & Wright, F Edward 1 PUBL Kohn & Pollock +, Baldwin, MD, 1904+
No where in the GEDCOM is my name but the authors name is there.
Shouldn't the source as presented in FTE show the authors name rather than mine?
Creating a Family Tree
I am a Macintosh user. My computer is running OS 10.3.9. When I go to my profile page, there is no box for me to enter surnames and locations. I have tried 3 different web browsers, but all have the same result. I am using Safari right now, but i also use Firefox.
When I enter the family tree manually, how do I connect parents with children, working back in my family line? The page appears to be set up to connect children with parents, but I have always been taught to work back from the present. Also, the information I am gathering is nearly always pushing one of my lines back a generation or two.
Image file names, unique vs descriptive
Hey Dallan, I just uploaded a couple of image files and was wondering about the file name itself. I've definitely chosen names that are unique. Naming them is also easy for me as the file name matches up with what's on my computer and the numbering system for my sources. However, they are not at all descriptive for anyone else looking at them. Is the file name itself something that someone would search for and then from that decide if they want to view the image? Is this something I need to correct? --Ronni 12:47, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
place names and dates
I've read about your plans to create a standardized format for places but what will you do with GEDCOM files that folks upload to your site that don't comply with your standards? For instance, I have a large chart; have never used the country name U. S. A. Would each individual have to be edited to comply with the standard? And how about the county that's written this way: Queens (now Nassau) County, L. I., NY ? That wouldn't fit neatly into the standardized format either. So how difficult will it be to get all the individuals in a large uploaded chart to fit into the format? I understand your making adding new typed individuals easy by selecting a location from a drop down box, but uploaded charts will present a different problem.
I also have dates that might defy standards, such as, betw 12 Nov 1826 and 5 Apr 1827. That is, between the time the deceased wrote the codicil to his will and the date the will was proved. Just something I was wondering about. --Janiejac 22:12, 12 April 2007 (MDT)
Delete a used-created source page?
I am still on the learning curve for WeRelate. I created a source page - http://www.werelate.org/wiki/MySource:Debbie_V.:Marriage_Register%2C_Franklin%2C_Illinois and I realize now that I should have research a bit more before I did this. It is actually just a transcription of a marriage record for my g-grandparents and some info about where I found the information. I would like to add the transcription to the image itself and DELETE this source page.
I don't see any button marked Delete. Sorry.--Debbie V. 15:28, 13 April 2007 (MDT)
Delete image page?
I have a similar request - I want to delete one of my early image pages. media:Edgar_Ligon_Marriage_Details.JPG but I don't see a DELETE button.
Oops - here's the link to the page.http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Image:Edgar_Ligon_Marriage_Details.JPG--Debbie V. 17:13, 13 April 2007 (MDT)
Kanawha, West Virginia place name fix
Hi Dallan.. Place:Kanawha (county), West Virginia, United States needs changed to Place:Kanawha, West Virginia, United States. I tried to move the former into the latter, but couldn't of course because the page already existed. The page I tried to move it to is a little screwed up as well, e.g. preferred name is "United", made to look like a city, when it's really a county, etc. I'm stumped as how to proceed. I have some town information I want to include for Kanawha County but wanted to get this fixed first. Thanks!--Ronni 03:47, 14 April 2007 (MDT)
Category pages, Surname in Place
Title Change I am working on a Category:Surname in Place page, Category:Ligon in Illinois. Should I have titled it Category:Ligon in Illinois, United States. Can that be changed?
Page format If you look at the page, you can see I am attempting to come up with a format that will do two things.
Right now this is rather cumbersome, but I hope in time to make it less so. If a county section gets too full I will move it to a separate page.
Do we have an example page for Category:Surname in Place pages?
Category Pages listing I added Category:Surname in place to the bottom of my Category:Ligon in Illinois page. However, when I look at this page, Category:Surname in place my Ligon page is listed under "Subcategories". Is that a mistake? --Debbie V. 19:28, 15 April 2007 (MDT)
Capitalization of User Name
I tried to create the user name alexeagar, but it ended up as Alexeagar. I don't mind it being AlexEagar or alexeagar, but Alexeagar bugs me. Could you fix that? I can link to my home page using AlexEagar or alexeagar, but every time I log in it displays AlexEagar.
Thanks Alex Eagar
Dallan: I've been exploring the site. Lots of potential here! One thing that I'm confused about are the place wiki pages. For example on the Place:Fairfield, Ohio, United States page, there are contained places listed on the right-hand side, including several in the "Unknown" category. Many/most of those are townships in Fairfield County. Is there (or should there be) a "township" category? Or should townships fall under the "Inhabited Places" category?
I wasn't clear before. The type shows up as "township" when you look at that specific page (for example Place:Berne, Fairfield, Ohio, United States), but on the Place:Fairfield, Ohio, United States page, it is listed as an "unknown" type. Is there a place to add "Townships" as a category in "Contained Places"? --Ajcrow 05:28, 19 April 2007 (MDT)
Don's Tree will not load
I put in a few more people (without having Family Tree Explorer open) and now when I went to launch Family Tree Explorer and open Don's Tree, it will not open! What did I not do correctly?
Need another Image delete
Hi Dallan, I need another image page deleted. http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Image:Patseybradyobit.jpg. Thanks.--Debbie V. 07:14, 24 April 2007 (MDT)
Sending a URL
If I'm doing it correctly, according to a few tests that I've run, I'll need to use the "%281%29" at the end of the URL. That is, it needs to be typed "http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Given_Surname_%281%29" instead of "http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Given_Surname_(1)". The reason seems to be that the ending ")" will not stay underlined, whereas the second "%" will stay underlined. Please check it out!--Dquass 16:43, 27 April 2007 (MDT)
I suppose this was to be anticipated: popular historical figures are being entered in multiple copies. I wanted to connect less well-known ones to Edward III of England and I found no less than 12 pages for Edward III under the names Edward Plantagenet (1,8,11,12,13,14,15) and Edward England (6,8,10,11,16), created by 6 different users. There may be more under other names. Do you have any guidance on how to resolve the situation ? --CTfrog 20:58, 27 April 2007 (MDT)
Footnote problem - duplicates
I am editing the Place:Franklin, Illinois, United States page and trying to cite sources using footnotes. I added a couple of sources but for some reason I get duplicate entries in the reference list. Can you help me with this?--Debbie V. 08:25, 28 April 2007 (MDT)
Editing the sidebar list on a Place page
I need to edit the sidebar list of cities, villages, etc on the right side of a Place page. I would like to rearranage the list so that it works from largest to smallest and include a few more names. I don't see this section when I choose to edit the page. Place:Franklin, Illinois, United States Actually this is an issue on other Place pages as well.
Recently uploaded a gedcom file furness-1823.ged.
Doesnt seem to appear on my gedcom list
--Kopuru 17:09, 5 May 2007 (MDT)
strange wiki arrow on link?
Help! Bad changes being made?
A change was made on one of my pages, and the change is wrong. Person:Living Ross (30) (that's my mother, actually) has just been given new--and incorrect--parents. The page she's on where the change was made is the correct page, showing John Ross and Mary Dunn as the parents. But Mary's parents--my mother's grandparents--have now been listed as my mother's parents.
I can just force a reversion to the old page, but I wanted to give you a heads-up. This change is wrong, and whatever prompted this change needs to be reexamined.--KF-in-Georgia 19:05, 17 May 2007 (MDT)
Hi Dallan... I'm having trouble adding new pages to any of my trees and apparently I've had this problem for a few weeks but I'm just now noticing it. In FTE, the box will be gray indicating I need to add the page, but when I click on the "Tree+" button on the page, it won't be added even though it says my trees have been updated. (I thought there used to be a green plus sign actually in the FTE menu, but I don't see it now). In the last week or so I did a clean install of Windows XP on my computer and thought maybe that had something to do with it, until I noticed names that I had added to WeRelate before I did this install. Any ideas? --Ronni 15:36, 19 May 2007 (MDT)
I just hate to do a rollback if it's just an ignorant person. Am I too scrupulous?
--Hh219 13:41, 20 May 2007 (MDT)
Gedcom upload failure
I just deleted by "ZUPP" file (I hope!). A couple of days ago I uploaded a gedcom and it took awhile to process into a family tree explorer file. I looked at it this morning and THE SPOUSES WERE NOT LINKED!! All spouses were 'UNKNOWN'. I am trying to decide if I should try again - perhaps with a smaller, simpler file / gedcom; or conclude that this site is more smoke than sizzle. Any suggestions??
No, there should have been no problem! I have spoken with others who have had a problem with gedcoms from their PAF being loaded into other programs. I am going to try the same families from an Ancestor Quest gedcom next week when I am back from the Jamboree! Thanks for the explanation!
How do I delete my account? Thanks.
The following place should be removed: Place:Orléans, Paris, Île-de-France, France. There is no such place. I have placed a link to the Orléans templates in Place:Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France which is the correct description of the city of Orleans. Same thing with Place:Argenteuil, Paris, Île-de-France, France and Place:Bretagne, Belfort, France, I don't know where the Belfort part came from, it is a city in France about 500 miles from Brittany. The content on this page is now on the correct Place:Bretagne, France.--CTfrog 15:19, 4 July 2007 (MDT)
Seven more places to remove as I continue the cleaning up of the Paris suburbs: Place:Nanterre, Paris, Île-de-France, France, Place:Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Paris, Île-de-France, France, Place:Vitry-sur-Seine, Paris, Île-de-France, France, Place:Aubervilliers, Paris, Île-de-France, France, Place:Champigny-sur-Marne, Paris, Île-de-France, France, Place:Neuilly-sur-Seine, XVIe arrondissement, Paris, Île-de-France, France and Place:Créteil, Paris, Île-de-France, France. Content has been moved to the correct Place:Nanterre, Hauts-de-Seine, Île-de-France, France, Place:Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Yvelines, Île-de-France, France, Place:Vitry-sur-Seine, Val-de-Marne, Île-de-France, France, Place:Aubervilliers, Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France, Place:Champigny-sur-Marne, Val-de-Marne, Île-de-France, France, Place:Neuilly-sur-Seine, Hauts-de-Seine, Île-de-France, France and Place:Créteil, Val-de-Marne, Île-de-France, France. I have also rewritten the page for Place:Courbevoie, France, using material I translated from the French Wikipédia site. You can thus delete the template: Template:Wp-Courbevoie. --CTfrog 16:23, 15 July 2007 (MDT)
Here is a place that needs to be fixed, not removed. Place:Verdun, Meuse, Lorraine, France has in its Place Information box Verdun-sur-Garonne as an alternate name, when it actually is a separate place. More seriously, the Coordinates are those of the wrong Verdun, which makes it show up on Pedigree maps at the other end of France (they are wrong in the Getty Thesaurus as well). The correct coordinates should be:05° 23' 01" E, 49° 09' 37" N (Wikipedia). It doesn't look like I can make the change myself. Thanks. --CTfrog 13:23, 19 July 2007 (MDT)
No, Verdun-sur-Garonne already exists. Thanks for doing this, --CTfrog 05:27, 20 July 2007 (MDT)
Question from new user
Msscarlet1957 asked a question on my user page that I'm directing to you if that's ok?
What happens when I upload a GEDCOM to update a GEDCOM?
response from MsScarlet [15 October 2007]
Dallan, I am not sure if you will see my response to you from my talk page, it does not show who is "watching" that page... so forgive me if this is a duplication, you can delete it...
Now, there is overlap.. and sometimes quite a bit. I start at the oldest family member that I have in a particular surname and filter to include all descendants. This very likely always ends with my children's generation, thus it includes me, and them and any generation before us that overlaps between other files. There is no other way to do it and not have overlap, unless I filter out to a certain number of generations, thus loosing family member's of a certain surname's descendancy (spell checker says this is not a word!). So yes the files greatly overlap sometimes, it is not a perfect world. If I uploaded my entire GEDCOM at once there would be no overlap, but that is not what I want to do, as many names have not yet been reviewed. I hope this is not too confusing of an explanation on my part
--Msscarlet1957 07:48, 14 July 2007 (MDT)
Dallan, I have three issues:
1. On my own talk page, if someone posts a message to me... Where do I respond that they will see it? do I post a comment right there on my own talk page? As I have said before, it does not show who is watching my talk page, so I do not know how that works. Once a person posts a message to my own talk page, are they set up as watching that page? Or do I click on the link to the author of the comment and go to their talk page to post a response?
2. On my offsite Internet home page I have a list of links to my GEDCOM's which I have posted at WorldConnect. See list at: My homepage. Please go there and click on one of the links to a Gedcom and see how it comes up.. say the one titled "ADELSPERGER family". What I would like to do is create a similar link to those files which I have here on WeRelate. I am not sure how to get a link that might go to an "opening" page into any given gedcom here. I really did not want to make a link directly to the FTE page. I am not sure that the "share" option is what I want, what do you think? I hope I am describing it well enough for you to understand what I need.
3.It has been a while since I created many of my GEDCOMS, thus I am wanting to create new updated copies and upload them. Have you yet created a way to do that other than just to delete a current GEDCOM and then upload a the next one as a "new" file, or is there a "replace" in effect now, that will not cause me to loose changes I have made to any of my existing Wiki pages? I remember you had told me earlier this summer, that you were going to be working on that.--Msscarlet1957 10:10, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
Ancestor changed surname - which name to use?
I have an ancestor, John Walker Woods - I use 2 surnames because he changed his last name from Walker to Woods and I didn't know what to do with that. His son, John, took the Woods surname as well and all his descendants. I would like your opinion on which name to use when I move this to a page with only one surname. --Debbie V. 09:55, 20 July 2007 (MDT)
Images [1 August 2007]
The Image Loading still baffles me. I followed the instructions and instead of my picture on the Image page I have the phrase: Download high resolution version (575X819, 18KB). How do I get my picture to show up? Separately should birth certificates etc. be considered historical documents for the licensing choices ? --CTfrog 08:14, 29 July 2007 (MDT)
Hmm, still can't see them on any of the four pages. I must be doing something wrong.--CTfrog 15:47, 29 July 2007 (MDT)
I use Mac OSX / Firefox. Interestingly, the pictures show up fine if I use Safari or Internet Explorer. --CTfrog 06:40, 30 July 2007 (MDT)
I can't find anything using google about GIF images not showing up in Mac OSX/Firefox. I'm not sure what's going on. Are you using the latest version of Firefox? Also, can you see the gif image when you click on the "download high resolution version" link; e.g., this page?--Dallan 14:09, 30 July 2007 (MDT)
Renaming Family Tree? [4 August 2007]
I am trying to rename my family tree "Thomas Lefler, Civil War Veteran" to "George and Thomas Lefler". IN FTE, When I click on File, Rename and enter the new name in the field, it gives me the message that George and Thomas Lefler is not found. What am I missing?--Debbie V. 14:24, 3 August 2007 (MDT)
Sorry about that. It was a bug. I just (barely) fixed it.--Dallan 13:51, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
I was able to change the name, thank you. It appears correctly as "George and Thomas Lefler" on my Family Tree page, but the old title "Thomas Lefler, Civil War Veteran" is still appearing on my User Page. --Debbie V. 19:32, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
Argh, the system had cached the old version of your page (with the old family tree name) and was displaying that. It's working now. Thank-you for being patient.--Dallan 19:53, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
Password change [11 August 2007]
Greetings from IVANHOE
saying I had an on-line "greeting card from an old class mate" It also was from 126.96.36.199 and it did not or would not open. I did NOT request a change in Password, and I will change the password, however I didn't see where to do that on WeRelate website. I tried asking for my password by clicking on the "forgot password" and that generated another automated password. I was only able to get back in after failing, by using my original pass word.
Help appreciated, --Ivanhoe 19:39, 11 August 2007 (EDT)
This is *very odd*. That IP address doesn't belong to WeRelate.org; it belongs a machine on Southwestern Bell's sbcglobal.net network (see http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=188.8.131.52). Could you please forward me the first email that you received - the one saying that you had requested a password change? I'd like to report this to their abuse department. Thanks.--Dallan 01:16, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
Feedback [18 August 2007]
Thanks for the note. I've been a wiki-dabbler for a while and have been looking for a place to get this family tree stuff online. None of the sites I had been too so far, including this one in its previous incarnation, seemed overly promising or easy to use. I was very pleased I took another look here and have been impressed at the ease of use. All the features of wiki, and the nice front-end and automatic fill-in boxes make it easy enough that even a non-technical person can use it. There's hope for some of my computer-challenged relatives after all :) I'm a Wikipedia:WikiGnome at heart, so here's some stuff I have stumbled onto so far.
HOW LONG BEFORE MY DATA POSTS TO "WE RELATE" ? [21 August 2007]
I was wondering how long the lag time is before my family information becomes "searchable" or can be found on "We Relate"? A day? A week?--Garycliser 20:33, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
Delete Source (shold be MySource) [22 August 2007]
Hi Dallan, Please delete http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Source:Debbie_V./Wilson_family_notes. This should be a MySource. I will redo this.
--Debbie V. 19:48, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
WeRelate with a Macintosh? [24 August 2007]
The tabs for Home, Create, Connect, Web, Research, Wiki, My Relate, and Help do not appear on my screen as shown in the tour.
I've uploaded a gedcom, but can't navigate at all. I double click a person, and their info shows on the right, but I can't get the screen on the left to do anything but rotate left or right.
Safari seemed to be the least useful. Firefox allowed me to rotate left and right.
Peggy--Flutter8y 15:30, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
The tabs you mention do appear! I was looking above the family tree in FamilyTree Explorer.
The sliders and right clicking work perfectly! Just didn't know to do it.
I am going to re-watch the tour and tutorial.
Thanks again for your help.
Peggy--Flutter8y 15:28, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
Jackson Family Tree [4 September 2007]
I submitted my Jackson 2007 gedcom a couple of nights ago and it's still not up and running. Could you tell me if I've done something wrong?
Thanks so much,
Lois--Polly710 07:05, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
Sorry about that. It looks like the GEDCOM uploader was down over the weekend. I see that your Jackson 2007.GED file was processed on Monday and it looks like you were able to open it. Please let me know if you have any other questions.--Dallan 20:01, 4 September 2007 (EDT)
Marshall Co., Tn [6 September 2007]
Hi Dallan, I'm not sure if you are the one to bug about this bug, but here goes. If not please let me know.
I can't seem to enter the place: "Marshall, Tennessee, United States" for birth or death or marriage places. Other places are accepted, but this gives me an error every time I try to use it:
placesearch returned bad response: 404
Marshall Co., TN is a valid place and I had used it before, a couple of weeks ago with no problems. If I strip out "Marshall" leaving the rest, it works fine, so obviously the database is having a problem with "Marshall" (I'm not using the quotes when entering it).
Let me know what to do.
Thanks for all the great work you've done here, I love WeRelate.
Marty--Martygrant 01:07, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
I'm having the same problem Dallan, except it occurs with all the place names I try to enter. --Ronni 05:07, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
Sorry about that. The indexing process crashed last night and I didn't find out about it until about 30 minutes ago. It should be back up and running again now. (And I'm spending today writing some better error-notification scripts.)--Dallan 13:10, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
your email does NOT work! [10 September 2007]
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In order to add my gedcom 10MB, the upload fails without an error message--JFBailey 13:17, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
Thank-you for pointing this out. With all of the spam floating around, email providers are making legitimate email senders jump through more and more hoops. This hoop is a new one. It should be working now.
Regarding the GEDCOM upload, I apologize -- you should have gotten back an error saying that the GEDCOM is larger than what we allow by default. However, a bug prevented the error from being displayed. I fixed the bug, and tonight I'll increase the limit so that you can upload your GEDCOM tomorrow.--Dallan 14:07, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
Gedcom processing [12 September 2007]
I submitted the gedcom file about one hour ago; it still says "In the queue"
Will you notify me if there is a problem?
Thx--Themaceffs 13:43, 12 September 2007 (EDT)
Will do. Not sure of the reason, but we've had a huge number of GEDCOM's uploaded today (more today than in the entire previous week), and it's swamped the GEDCOM processor. Hopefully the new GEDCOM's will slow down over night and give the GEDCOM processor a chance to catch up. We're working to bring another machine on-line so this doesn't happen in the future.--Dallan 16:28, 12 September 2007 (EDT)
System broken [13 September 2007]
I think I broke your system: I am getting a database error when I try to edit a page.
Don't worry - you didn't break the system :-). We had about 10 times the normal amount of traffic yesterday and the database was straining under the load (and periodically giving out database errors). We made some changes last night so performance is better today. Later this week we'll be adding an additional machine.
Can I ask how you found out about the site? We're trying to find out how people are finding out about us.--Dallan 13:39, 13 September 2007 (EDT)
My trees being held for review [19 September 2007]
Can you please go ahead and put them through for me. I originally had some of them all in one tree, but deleted them and put them in separate because it seems like it might be confusing (for example, if I share with someone researching the HINEMAN line, they would have to sort through all the other people they are not interested in) to locate those connected to HINEMAN. If there is a better way to do it, just let me know.--CynthiaR 14:54, 15 September 2007 (EDT)
Done.Dallan 11:34, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
I found out about the site from the rootsweb email newsletter. Can you tell me how to respond to the updates/edits I get? Like this one where you asked me where I heard about the site? I am not sure if I am doing this the best way. Should I normally click on the person's name? Or edit the original message like I have done here? Sorry, still new at this.
You can do it either way - both work. I usually edit the original message like we're doing here so that the conversation "thread" (original comment, my response) is maintained on the same page. I hope you're enjoying the site!--Dallan 13:46, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
You need to make ads [18 September 2007]
I made this one to put on my myspace page.
This is really cool, thanks! Would you mind if we used it? I'm hoping not to have to pay for ads, but maybe we could encourage people to post them in a few places for free.--Dallan 11:34, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
yeah sure go for it, tryin to make more.
Thanks!--Dallan 22:10, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
Are my records public? [23 September 2007]
I sent a previous email re: my inability to login...but forgot to ask if the info I enter on my family lines is available to the public-which is what I want. I discovered on other sites that the info is "available only to relatives"? My relatives, obviously know about the family. I am hoping that your site would be another way of getting my research to others who are 'climbing our family tree'... "Private genealogy" is a contradiction is terms! Will my info be available to the public etc.? Barbara Pixley email: firstname.lastname@example.org--Troypix 18:22, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
Yes they certainly are. Anyone can find the pages you've created and start adding to them. Your pages appear in the WeRelate search index the following morning. Google and other search engines are also indexing pages on WeRelate. Later this year we'll add a "match" capability to notify you if someone else is creating pages for the same people as you, and we'll provide a "merge" function so the two of you can merge the pages and start working together.--Dallan 02:45, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
Thanks - Florida Research Guide [25 September 2007]
Thanks for the help. I never thought to try it without braces. --Moultriecreek 17:34, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
General Genealogy & Family History Help? [5 October 2007]
As a new genealogy consultant, I was hoping to find a location for providing beginners some basic instructions and how to get started on their own research. For example, what is the LDS Ancestral File, how do I access it, and what information is available there? I'm not looking for in-depth tutorials on each topic, but rather a way to help people who are computer literate to quickly get up to speed on good resources. Are you aware of anything like this that already exists, or if not, how this can be created without getting hidden among all of the family and individual-specific pages on this site? Of course, if this exists on another site, that would be OK with me too. ;-) --Davidnhale 15:33, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
You could start by reading How to get started in family history research guide. You can find all of the research guides at WeRelate by clicking on Wiki, then Articles, then on Research Guides (under the Browse heading). People add to the research guides periodically, and you are more than welcome to contribute as well! It's often good to have a "newcomer's" point of view.
Also, here's a sampling of websites with additional getting started material:
To answer your specific question, you can search Ancestral File by going to http://www.familysearch.org , clicking on Advanced Search, then on Ancestral File. Ancestral File is a compilation of family trees submitted to FamilySearch during the 70's and 80's I believe. It was succeeded by the Pedigree Resource File, which is also searchable at FamilySearch. But the majority of FamilySearch data is in the International Genealogical Index, which is the result of thousands of people indexing millions of records over a period of several decades.--Dallan 11:09, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
Difficulty in learning rapidly [19 October 2007]
Hi, I think your wiki concept to be excellent. However, I find the execution not sufficiently intuitive to continue using at this time. I'm not into studying your program application in depth.
I started with home computers in 1979 and have had 1 or 2 continuously ever since. I've written several programs for my own use and used a vast range of application software over the years. I give you that information only to give you an appreciation that I'm not a novice.
I will return sometime in the future and try you again.
Jerry--Jpost 18:34, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
Southwest Virginia Maps [7 November 2007]
OK, Don't have a problem with them being moved into another space, particularly if that's useful to others. However, this is part of a series of maps and articles dealing with Southwest Va. That series is intended to provide the framework for a largish series of genealogy person articles focused on the early settlers of SW VA. What I'm trying to do is provide the contextual setting within which these people lived. Right now its not a problem correcting a few links. But as this grows, and if you find other articles need to be in a different space, it will get a bit cumbersome to start changing linkages if simple redirection won't work. (I assume redirection is a problem because the articles are being moved into another space.) So, how should I handle the additional articles that are coming along? Bill 10:43, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Sources [7 November 2007]
Then I'll shift some of these other articles as they are being created into the article space. I have a related question concerning sources. The setup here clearly emphasizes (without being intrusive about it) documentation of information using a combination of "Source" and "MySource" name space. Understand the distinction, I think, and I'm definitely enfavor of people documenting where they get information from. However, the Source namespace input boxes seem to emphasize the title of the work, rather than the more conventional author. Normally, I'd want to cite a source in the Smith, 1912:423 format. I've got work arounds to do that using "Source" and "MySource", but you may have different preferences. I'd like to understand why the Source namespace is set up the way it is, and if there's a problem with the way I want to cite my sources. Would it be helpful to have a "Reference" namespace in addition to Source and MySource? Bill 11:12, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Scotland places [8 November 2007]
Hi Dallan, I responded to your additional questions on Place_talk:Scotland. The Scotland placelist is looking much better, although the "located-in" swaps that you did yesterday took us in the wrong direction. I'm hoping it's not too painful to roll them all back? Thanks! --TomChatt 11:49, 8 November 2007 (EST)
P.s. I notice that someone (I presume you) has been cleaning up the little 'DELETE-ME' artifacts I've been leaving in Scotland, where a bunch of links and child places need to be patched up before deleting. Thanks for that! :-)
Source Pages and Zotero [9 November 2007]
I just recently re-visited WeRelate.org to see what new developments there have been and I came across you Source Committee discussing how to handle sources.
I like the idea of a master source list of all genealogical sources and have thought for a while about how such a beast could be created and how it would best function.
I have been impressed by a little plug-in that works in Firefox called Zotero (www.zotero.org). Are you familiar with it?
It allows me to take a snapshot (and optionally link to) any page I visit on the web, simultaneously ingesting all the "bibliographic" data that there is available. Furthermore, when you are on a page with bibliographic content (Amazon, many catalog systems, etc.) Zotero recognizes the bibliographic information on the page and places it all in their proper fields. It is really quick and it allows you to edit and/or enter additional information it may not have captured with the bibliographic fields, tags, and notes.
What I have wished for is a "master catalog" that could be built by importing records via a tool such as Zotero.
What I next have wished for is a way to have my own "version" of this catalog which would contain the subset of the master catalog in which I have an interest, and which could be supplemented by my own personal artifacts and documents, which I could choose to either share with others (get sucked into the master catalog) or conceal for my own use.
Next, I want to be able to have this personal version of the sources be something portable that I can carry around on my flash drive and have it sync with my internet version as necessary.
Ideally this portable file would be the sources used in my Legacy database (or Family Tree Maker, PAF, Rootsmagic, etc.)--not that they would be another listing of the same sources, but that this file would be the source file accessed by my data manager.
I just wanted to share these ideas with you and see if any of this seems useful direction for the source pages on the wiki.
Bibliostuff 15:09, 9 November 2007 (EST)
I've heard of it. It does look interesting, although I confess I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I have thought about trying to integrate something like this, customized for genealogy, into WeRelate's source pages. I think it could be very useful.
Feel free to jump in on the source discussion. as soon as we get match+merge and the digital library working, working on sources is the next big project.--Dallan 15:21, 9 November 2007 (EST)
FHLC Film Numbers and Film Notes [9 November 2007]
It looks like you have imported portions of the Family History Library Catalog, going as far as importing the film numbers, but not the notes associated with each one. Was this a copyright concern, did you wish to start with a "clean slate", or was there some technical difficulty in importing the notes?
It seems to me that it would be much easier to edit the notes rather than put all the information in from scratch.--Bibliostuff 16:02, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Strictly a copyright concern. If the people involved were amenable, I'd be excited to re-import and include notes in the future. This could be done without starting from scratch.--Dallan 16:09, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Gedcom not appearing [10 November 2007]
Dallan, I uploaded a Heller family gedcom last night around 10pm or so, it is now 8am the next day and still no sign of it. --Msscarlet1957 08:09, 10 November 2007 (EST)
OH, and I had deleted my Adeslperger family gedcom and uploaded a new version, but I am getting the usual "overlap so cant create pages" warning, can you put in an OK for it, please? (note: I just tried to upload that Heller file again and it did work this time, it just showed up 9:15)--Msscarlet1957 08:59, 10 November 2007 (EST)
Re: John Tresadern [15 November 2007]
Thanks for the mod. Your right that at that time Tower Hamlets would have been part of Middlesex. It's strange but even people who lived in the same physical house from 1850 onwards, would have different numbered houses from census to census. Just goes to show how much London and other major cities grew then, with the migration from Land to city. He was related to me through the Goldsmith Family as his wife would have been my 3rd cousin twice removed. Regards Graham--Ggoldsmith 13:21, 15 November 2007 (EST)
Questions from AFAOA [20 November 2007]
I am a member of AFAOA, the Austin Family Association of America. We were one of, if not the first, genealogical websites on the internet beginning January,1995. http://www.afaoa.org/ In 1996, Tim Doyle wrote a program, IMG which generates webpages on the fly from GEDCOMS. We have been using it ever since. He has since moved on and has started his own Wiki site about a year and a half ago for the Whitney Research Group at http://wiki.whitneygen.org/.
We are exploring modernization of our site and a Wiki model seems desirable so we are experimenting with your site. Our database consists of some 30 Gedcoms comprising approximately 100,000 individuals. Are you prepared to accept a submission of this size?
I began our experiment by uploading a personal GEDCOM containing 1097 individuals Tuesday Evening. Yesterday we experimented with editing person pages and all went smoothly.
Today a number of questions arise that concern me. I5t may just be a learning curve for me. But...
When I launch FTE it shows my tree (whitlock33) now contains 1697 individuals. Where did 600 new individuals come from overnight?
I renamed it whitlock33a as I may want to upload additional individuals from the whitlock33 file but the new name shows on the right but not the left of the manage tree(s) window.
I uploaded an image to a person page and launched the preview and it was fine I went back to edit mode for some text editing and preview again and the image was gone. I entered Image:(filename) in the box and the upload was apparently gone.
I selected a person page from the tree to add a spouse and was told the page did not yet exist so I hit the edit button and added a spouse and the upper left window says "not in tree". How do I attach new pages to the tree?
Once a tree has been placed on your site and edited can a GEDCOM be downloaded to our archives so we don't need to copy the edits into our master file?
Scot--Scot 17:13, 15 November 2007 (EST)
Hi Scot, nice to hear from you.
Are you sure the GEDCOM you uploaded has only 1097 individuals? I just did a quick check and it has a few more than 1700 "INDI" tags in it, which seems to indicate that it has closer to 1700 individuals.
Renaming the tree using the "rename" link under "Manage Trees" on the "Family Tree" page while the FTE has that tree open is a bug; the FTE is still trying to use the old name. I'll add this to the todo list. Thank-you for reporting it.
Can you tell me which page you were having the image trouble on? I looked at Person:Edwina Whitlock (1) and Person:Philip Austin (4) and they both appear to have an image. By default images appear at the bottom of the page, but you can move one image to the top by checking the "Primary" checkbox to the right of the image filename when editing the page. (Or you can put images anywhere you want on the page by including an "image" link when editing the text. See this help page for more information.)
There are several ways to add pages to your tree
There's currently a discussion going on at the Watercooler about GEDCOM download. Feel free to add your opinions. We don't have anything like this working yet, but I am committed to making it easy to get updates back into your master file. This won't happen until next year though. We need to get match+merge working first.
30 GEDCOM files totaling about 100,000 individuals shouldn't be a problem. If you upload all of them at once, just be willing to wait a day or so for them to finish processing. We have the capacity to process about 120,000 new individuals from GEDCOM uploads per day.
--Dallan 19:41, 15 November 2007 (EST)
Error [17 November 2007]
While trying to save changes to a Person page at http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Deborah_Barlow_%288%29 I repeatedly got the following error message. I have done the same with other pages with no problem.
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
(SQL query hidden)
from within function "RecentChange::save". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)". --Scot 19:09, 16 November 2007 (EST)
match/merge project [18 January 2008]
I read that you are writing a match program and a merge program that will make the process of eliminating duplicates much easier. Here are my thoughts on the subject.
I assume your match program will search for duplicates and present them as candidates to merge or not. But I hope it does not search the way Ancestry.com searches for duplicates (indicated by a green leaf) which not only misses most duplicates, but breaks links that are very difficult to fix because it allows merges only on what it presents as candidate duplicates. The result is a father can be accessed from his son's record, but the son cannot be accessed from the father's record. WeRelate has similar problems with broken links when John Doe (2) is changed to John Doe (3) in a family record, but does not automatically rename the person records.
Editors should be able to merge John Doe (1) with John Doe (2) and expect that all the links and record names in the person and family records are correctly changed, whether or not your match program presented them as merge candidates.
An editor should be able to select a pair of merge candidates for your merge program without them being presented by your match program. The Mormon's software PAF for home computers does this correctly, because an editor can specify the specific pair of records to be merged.
If an editor merges both parents of duplicate families, both sets of children should end up as one family under the same two parents and not be in two separate families having those two parents. This is a problem in Ancestry.com An editor should then be presented with a list of duplicate children in the merged family so that the editor can merge each pair of duplicate children, which cannot be an automatic process because it requires editorial judgment.
Your match program should not only match similar names, but also check for evidence, such as birth dates, that they are really the same person, so that a father and son with the same name are not presented as merge candidates or be merged accidently. The degree of match should be variable so that an editor can insist on an exact agreement of spellings and dates to eliminate duplicates from multiple GEDCOM uploads from the same user, or relax that restriction for imperfect matches in data from different users. A simple match of all the John Smiths without comparing the data for their parents and children would invite chaos. In most cases this evidence is obvious, but this evidence must be presented to the editor, otherwise the editor will not know if it is a good match or not. And if it is a good match, the editor needs to see which data will end up in the merged record. This is done in PAF which displays the parents and spouses of each pair of merge candidates and indicates which data will be in the merged record. This is important if there are differences in spellings and dates, but there is no way to judge this in WeRelate without printing out each page for manual comparison.
A related problem is what to do about duplicate family trees that represent competing theories about spelling and dates. Ancestry.com solves this problem by storing alternative dates and spellings, but only one alternative is selected by an editor for display. Something similar should be done in WeRelate so that a merge will preserve alternative spellings and dates in the merged record. Greensburger 11:52, 19 November 2007 (EST)
Dallan, What is the status of the Match/merge project?--Scot 13:32, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Cleaning up the place index for non-US places took a lot longer than anticipated so I didn't get it done by the end of the year as I had expected. This quarter I've committed to launch the digital library and that's a pretty firm commitment, so match-merge has been pushed back to next quarter. I expect it will be ready end of May / early June.--Dallan 12:32, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Bug Report [25 November 2007]
Dallan, I responded to your questions on Knarrows talk page. Greensburger 14:00, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Surnames in bible genealogy and royal lineages [2 December 2007]
Hi Dallan... Do you see any problems with us leaving out the "Unknown" for surnames in the titles of our pages for the bible genealogy and royal lineages? "Adam Unknown and Eve Unknown" just ain't doing it for me. :) --Ronni 18:35, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Big River [2 December 2007]
Dallan - I'm new at this - Let's see if I do this right. Big River is near Ukiah in Mendocino County, CA. I have never been there. I believe it is near the coast. Mark--Mtpina2 21:47, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Lexington, Rockbridge, Virginia [4 December 2007]
Got your message and understand what you are saying. In the (possibly theoretical) situation in which an independent city does not have or keep any overlapping vital or legal records with the surrounding county, it could be argued that the county should be left off. However, even in that situation, I think it helps others locate their families by keeping keep the county as well.
In this specific case, I checked, and while Lexington is indeed categorized as an "independent city," it is ALSO the county seat of Rockbridge County, so I firmly believe that the county should be included in this case. Does that make sense?
Hope you are settling into your new home. It's good to be back with my family, though I still have a couple of dozen boxes left to unpack!
Regards, Mary--Mary 13:12, 3 December 2007 (EST)
It's nice to hear from you again. I hope the move went smoothly. (If I knew last April how much work this move was going to be, I'm not sure I would have moved. :-) I'll put the other independent cities in Virginia under their surrounding county. Thanks!
--Dallan 13:26, 4 December 2007 (EST)
Tree deletion problem [4 December 2007]
The system has told me that the last gedcom file that I up loaded has overlaps with the previous one. Allthough I thought that I had deleted the previous one, I conclude that I didn't. The "open tree" screen shows me the tree without a name but I can't do anything with it. I would like to be delete both trees because I have a more accurate filr to upload. Can You help?
John Ryan John Ryan 00:41, 4 December 2007 (EST)
Hi John, Sorry about that. It looks like you've found a bug that lets you rename a tree to an empty name, and then you can't do anything with it. I've gone ahead and deleted your tree, and I've added your bug to the todo list. Thanks for pointing it out.--Dallan 13:26, 4 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks Dallan John John Ryan 23:18, 4 December 2007 (EST)
Feature Pages? [6 December 2007]
Well, you asked me to contribute and I did. I checked back tonight and my little contribution seems to have been blown away by a historical version of the featured pages page. I don't even see my effort in the revision history. I guess someone must have retrieved an old version of the page, with it's revision history and slammed it over my puny little effort. I'll be the first to admit that I'm still sort of a newbie, but that's harsh... :(--Jrm03063 23:07, 5 December 2007 (EST)
Ballyforan article [6 December 2007]
Hi Dallan... I came across Ballyforan, County Roscommon, Republic of Ireland which is an article that should be in the place namespace. I created a page for it in the Place namespace, but can't redirect the "old" page to the "new" because it's outside the namespace. Should the article be deleted? --Ronni 18:17, 6 December 2007 (EST)
adding to other's work [19 December 2007]
I was not sure where this would go if I posted at the water cooler so I will ask here. I am not sure what this would fit under - WeRelate etiquette or adding to other's work etc.
I do a lot of work in North Central Kentucky. I am the GenWeb county archivist for several counties and the assistant county coordinator for Bullitt Co. KY I am in the film a lot; transcribing a lot; recognize people a lot.
I got curious and did some searches of WeRelate for some of these counties and saw families I knew. In some cases I saw where I could provide the marriage certificate etc. by scanning film of the originals that I have access to and could easily upload this in WeRelate to the researcher's pages. Now if someone did this for ME I would be delighted and think the Genealogy Fairy visited me but I want to ask if this is considered part of the beauty of WeRelate that this can be done or if this would be considering "butting in" and messing with someone's research?-- Thanks, Anne MizLiv 11:00, 19 December 2007 (EST)
The reason I have placed my data on this site is to encourage exactly the kind of participation you describe. Many people have access to sources unavailable to me and I hope to benefit from that. does your area include Adair, Greene or Warren Counties?--Scot 12:00, 19 December 2007 (EST)
By all means, please do! You've identified the basic purpose of WeRelate -- making it easy for the "Genealogy Fairy" to visit you :-), and/or for you to be a "Genealogy Fairy" for someone else. Thank-you! --Dallan 13:27, 19 December 2007 (EST)
The area I have most on is Nelson, Washington, Spencer, Jefferson, Shelby, Bullitt & old Hardin Co. (the early years, mostly) but I do have a little film accessible for Warren Co. that I have kept handy because a lot of the Jefferson Co. and Hardin Co. people go over there.
I guess my second question would be is the easiest way to see who is researching in these areas to use the search engine for persons, leave everything else blank but put in the place ie Washington, KY and then just browse people coming up?
I am just trying to think of how best to see who is working on whom. I also have a few other places where I am constantly in film and could build my own "watchlist" where I might share this way if I found something. With WeRelate's ability to upload a scanned image its not like I would need the investment of time to transcribe (unless someone needed me to) and I could help now and again.
Anne--MizLiv 13:40, 19 December 2007 (EST)
First of all, thank you for offering to help people in this way! The best thing is probably to wait for a few weeks until the new search engine is complete. The new search engine will list results in reverse date order so pages that have added or edited recently will appear at the top of the list. It will also list basic information (e.g., birth date, death place) right on the search results screen, so it should be easier to see who you might have information for. And yes, the way I'd suggest using it would be to enter a place and leave everything else blank. It should be ready by mid-January. I originally thought it would have been ready by the end of this year, but the place cleanup took longer than expected. Now that that's over, other things are moving ahead again.--Dallan 12:00, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Featured page [23 December 2007]
Hi Dallan... I'm going to try and remember to change the Featured Page every Sunday (or there abouts :)) if that's ok with you. Have a good day! --Ronni 08:56, 23 December 2007 (EST)
Source Deletion Weirdism [26 December 2007]
I just had a bizarre behavior when trying to delete a source from a Person page. It was the first source of several, and when I deleted it the existing sources were renumbered (as I would expect), but the content of the sources was not updated to reflect the change (S1 got the name of what was previously in S2, but the old S1 content remained). In order to avoid that issue, I tried to delete the first source by nulling out the whole thing - no source name, no source content, etc. I now have a person page with sources "S2" and "S3", and no obvious way to get them renumbered.
I'm assuming this is all part of some new code that recently hit, as it's the sort of thing I figure that I would have encountered before this. The person page that caused me trouble is John Tuttle (12).--Jrm03063 16:01, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, it was a result of the new changes I'd made. The bug is fixed now, and I went ahead and removed the empty source in John Tuttle's page.
In the future, if you delete a source citation by nulling it out, it will continue to show up in the edit screen as blank fields. You can remove it and have the rest of the sources renumbered by clicking on the "remove" link to the right.--Dallan 21:18, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Possible bug on the places page? [31 December 2007]
Dallan, I was adding coordinates (DEC) for some of my cemetery pages... all went well, entered the numbers, the preview page showed all was fine and brought up the google map with location. But once I saved the page, the google map was no longer visible. I tried hitting "refresh" but that did not do anything. When I click on the "larger map" link, it does open a map with the location showing fine and dandy. Possible bug?
Next question.. at one time I read you were thinking of setting up the ability to accept DMS coordinates as well as DEC. Is that still in the works? I use TMG (The Master Genealogist) software and it only accepts DMS and I have all those coordinates entered so I could easily transfer that information. --Msscarlet1957 00:35, 30 December 2007 (EST)
Also just now I attempted to edit a place page and I am unable to change the "located in" area. I wanted to "redirect" a page (Place:Butternut Ridge/Lay Cemetery, Green Springs, Adams Twp., Seneca Co., Oh.), to a properly created page (Place:Butternut Ridge/Lay Cemetery, Adams (Township), Seneca, Ohio, United States), but upon entering the redirect information I get this message: The "Green Springs, Adams Twp., Seneca Co., Oh." place page does not exist (you must create it before creating this page). Well Green Springs is NOT in Seneca county, so I can't create that page, and it will not let me change that line. Help! --Msscarlet1957 01:14, 30 December 2007 (EST)
Cemetery pages [31 December 2007]
Hi Dallan -- I know a few months ago, we were discussing having cemeteries with their own place pages. Msscarlet1957's earlier message reminded me to ask you if a standard nomenclature had been decided. Are cemetery place pages supposed to go under the town/township or directly under the county? I think the example I had posed when we were discussing this earlier was "Olivet Cemetery, Thorn Township, Perry, Ohio, United States" or just "Olivet Cemetery, Perry, Ohio, United States." Is there a standard way? --Ajcrow 11:12, 31 December 2007 (EST)