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Problem importing your gedcom [23 July 2009]

I noticed that the system had a problem importing your GEDCOM. Sorry for the inconvenience. I'll look at it first thing in the morning.--Dallan 00:58, 21 July 2009 (EDT)


Sure hope you can resolve any issues. The review process is really thorough, but takes a long time so I hope I don't have to do it again. I am currently working on the "warnings" to fix my tree on Family Tree Maker, which is the software on my laptop that I use. I also update my tree on and would like to "fix" the issues on werelate wiki pages. IF I can get use to werelate I would like to drop due to the expense though their searches/documents are great the search results are a little overwhelming.

Peggy--Peggytrobinson 11:49, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

As you can see by the following message, it took longer than I thought but I fixed the problem. Let me know if you have any other issues.--Dallan 12:35, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

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Wooley Cousins? [24 July 2009]

Hi Peggy, I see that you updated one of my Woolley pages (Stites Wooley descendants). Is this your family? IF so, I'd love to "chat". I have not yet found a Wooley descendant. Sheri 16:57, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

Hi, Sheri,

The Woolley line stems from my grandmother's first marriage. If you look at Floyd Warren Woolley, you will find him married to Adelaide Kennedy Beck. They had 4 children. I don't have the exact date of their divorce but it was when my mother was young. The last time she saw him was when she was 5 or 6. She does remember going to Niagra Falls with him once.

Wooley Palmer [27 July 2009]

Hi Peggy, Why do Floyd Wooley's children have the surname of Palmer? Sheri--Sheri 17:48, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

Hi, Sheri,

After Adelaide Kennedy Beck and Floyd Warren Woolley divorced, he disappeared from their lives. I never knew this grandfather. My mom has always said that one morning she woke up and when she left for school her mother said, your name if Margy Palmer from now on. It was after the 1930 census where you will find Adelaid and the children living in Washington, DC. Adelaide Kennedy Beck married Raymond Abbott Palmer in 1932 and though my sister and brothers and I always called him "Uncle Ray", we did not call him "Grandpa", Mom and her sister and brothers did call him "Daddy". Though I have never looked for formal adoption papers and my mother says she is not aware of an adoption taking place, she has always used the "Palmer" name as has her brothers and sister and there are no records anywhere for Margy Woolley except maybe for 1st and 2nd grade and her birth certificate.

For the above reasons, I have not done much researh on the Woolley side, except when things "pop up" here and there.

Regards, Peggy

Hi Peggy, That's too bad. I guess we all have some unfortunate ancestors in our families.--Sheri 16:40, 26 July 2009 (EDT)


I don't look at them as unfortunate relatives rather interesting characters that help make up our history. Though I have not yet run into a bank robber or other "criminal-type" and, of course, hope that I don't, as we all what stellar lines that connect us to the Queen of Scotland, etc. people of all types exist, as witness the recent incident in Massachusetts and the invite to the White House for a beer and family is family. I just chose not to follow the Woolley line in detail. Therefore, I really appreciate your work as it gives me a place to go when I do get questions about Mom's biological family. So we are cousins or something, right - I have not looked into that yet.

Regards, Peggy--Peggytrobinson 11:02, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

Hi Peggy, Yes we are cousins -- probably about fifth cousins. I wrote a book on the Conklin family which is why I have some Wooley info. Stites Wooley's mother was Keziah Conkling. If you would be willing to send me the names and details on your mom's sisters and brothers (not to be published of course) I'd really appreciate it. 16:49, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

Aurelia Wooley [24 July 2009]

Hi Peggy, I see that you added an Aurelia Woolley to Stites Woolley's family. I wonder if tha may have been a misspelling of Amelia? Sheri--Sheri 18:25, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

Hi, Sheri

Aurelia Woolley Ross, age 60, living in East Portland Oregon, is listed on the petition of Frederick R Woolley filed in Seward, Nebraska, 31 Mar 1902. This petition is in regards to Mary Ann Woolley's estate. As you know, handwriting is not always clear so it could be "Amelia" but I don't think so.

By the way, I am not sure if I should be doing "edit" or "add comment". Are you getting these replies or should I go to your page and "leave a message for....."

Regards, Peggy

How leave messages

Hi, volunteer admin here. When you type in the text box and save, it is saved on that page. If Sheri is watching your talk page, she will get an email telling her you responded. If she doesn't respond, you can leave a message for her at User:Grandma's Garden and click on leave message. Remember to save the page.

If you edit topic, (to the right of the first line of the message) you can change wording, correct spelling, add new info to messages already saved. If you click on add comment, (to the right of the first line of the message) it puts a blue line inbetween your response and the last comment. If you click on add topic at the top of the page, you can start a new conversation, like adding a thread to a message board. --sq 13:34, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Woolleys [26 July 2009]

Hi Peggy. The way you edited the pages is just fine/. I will take care of Amelia/Aurelia. I'd love hearing about your part of the family via email. How did you find out about the Woolley's (other than the obvious censuses, etc.)? It really exciting to find a real Wooley descendant.--Sheri 18:23, 25 July 2009 (EDT)


In 1989 I wrote to Seward, NE for Floyd Warren Woolley's birth certificate. The Deputy Clerk/Registrar at that time, sent me a whole package of documents: Fredrick R Woolley will; petition to probate the will filed by Ora Fink; handwritten last will and testament of Ethel C Woolley; petition to probate her will filed by Victor Woolley; petition for Letters of Testamentary of will of Stites Woolley; Mary Ann's handwritten will; petition by Frederic R Woolley to probabte her will.

I was very surprised to get so many documents as up until that time most of my written requests were tersely replied to, or ignored or redirected.


Van Kirk Family of Beaver Co., PA [15 January 2010]


My name is Jarrod Van Kirk, and I am part of the Van Kirk family from Beaver Co., PA. I saw your posting on Iza Pearl Van Kirk, and think she may belong in my branch of the Van Kirk family.

My GGG Uncle, George Washington Van Kirk married Agnes Ewing in Beaver Co., PA. Lena Van Kirk, their daughter, married Jackson Small. Lena had a sister named Martha. Who Martha married is unknown at this time. To further complicate this, Another sister Eliza Jane "Lide" Van Kirk had a child (son) out of Wedlock with an unknown man and then married A William Henry Powell. My tree is up on rootsweb, and you had probably ought to take a look to see if your Iza may be the daughter of Martha. I think Martha Van Kirk may have told Iza about Martha's sister who married a William Henry Powell and maybe the story got confused? The names just all seem to fit.

The link to my tree is above. Please fell free to email me at for more information!

Jarrod--Jvankirk 21:31, 13 January 2010 (EST)


I am very excited about your posting. I have looked for years for the Van Kirk/Powell connections and have rarely found anything that is even remotely concrete. And my great grandmother, Iza, being so secretive did not help. My grandmother, Miriam looked for many years for her official birth record and could never find anything. So the "redbook diary" is all that we have to go by. I was glad to find the SS-5 applications but again the leads seemed to be deadends. Your hypothesis also leads to some questions and I need to study it and put the names together more carefully. I will be contacting you at your regular email and will be most grateful for any ideas you have, especially if you have any documentation - newspapers, etc.

So we are possible cousins somewhere along the line legitimate or otherwise. Regards, Peggy--Peggytrobinson 15:06, 15 January 2010 (EST)

AA [26 January 2010]

--Marr794 10:54, 26 January 2010 (EST)

Sorry, my computer is jumpy today. I was going to say that I don't edit my pages -- don't have time. The administrators of werelate are doing it for me rather than just dumping my data off the site. If you would like to discuss my reasearch, email me at

Ann Marr

WeRelate Featured Page - Week of April 11, 2011 [12 April 2011]

Hi Peggy, just wanted to let you know that your person page, Andrew Kennedy has been selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page! Great work, keep up the good work and best regards:)

Co-Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 18:59, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

mage:Mary Annelle Landrum.jpg [23 September 2011]

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Rinker families [9 February 2012]

I was wondering if you would be willing to share with me some information on the people you may have in your Rinker Family. Regards Fraq10--Fraq10 12:30, 9 February 2012 (EST)


I will gladly share what I have on the Rinkers. Most of it is on these werelate pages. Is there something specific you for which you are looking? I also have a tree on that is more up-to-date as I have not worked on the werelate pages in awhile. I can be reached at 13:39, 9 February 2012 (EST)

Living people [8 July 2012]

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Good Afternoon Ms. Robinson [11 February 2014]

Dear Ms. Robinson,

My name is Benjamin Richard Palmer and my father (Bruce Palmer) contacted you I believe regarding our family tree. I would love to know more about Murray and Wilcocks.

Look forward to learning more, Ben Palmer--Palmer.ben 00:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


Good to hear from you. You and I are 1st cousins once removed as your dad and I are 1st cousins. I do not have a lot on the Willcocks or the Murrays. Your dad sent me a very large family chart that I have not studied very closely. I am sure he still has it. I used it to enter some basic information to my tree. My Mom, your grandaunt, Aunt Margy, remembers that: Lucille was an artist and taught art at a vocational school in Washington, DC. Also a conversation with Mom: 2011-25 Sep-spoke with Mom last night-she met Aunt Peggy when they were in the 4th grade; Aunt Peggy lived on Calvert Street in Washington, DC; her mother was Lucille; they had an Aunt Lill that lived with them; Aunt Peggy had a sister Eunice Farnum Murray; Eunice married Robert Ditmar.

I'm afraid that is not very much help at this point in time, but I will do some research and look up the chart your dad sent and see if I can't get more info for you. I do genealogy almost every day and I have just now gotten home from visiting Mom and then I called her to let her know I had heard from you. You can get me direct at and please call me Peggy as we are cousins.--Peggytrobinson 20:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Ewald Willy DUNNEMANN [6 October 2014]

Hi Peggy,

I noticed that you're watching a page on Ewald Willy DUNNEMANN. I've just started researching some info about my family and have some old pictures. I came across one with the name Ewald Dunnemann, circa 1918, when he was 19 years old. He is wearing some sort of military uniform. Dunnemann was my grandmother's maiden name. Her father was Heinrich K. Dunnemann. My family is from Bremen, Germany, but many of them immigrated to eastern Pennsylvania. I'm wondering if you might have come across anything on the last names Dunnemann or Rolappe? Thanks a bunch.

Leanna--Lrolappe 04:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


I am sorry to say that I have nothing on Ewald Dunnemann other than his name and the name of his wife. Their daughter, Ernegret Lilly Dunnemann aka Anne was the mother of my 2nd cousins. I am still in touch with Carolyn and will ask her if she has anything on her German grandparents. If your picture is the same Ewald as listed on my tree, I am sure we would be glad to see it.

Peggy--Peggytrobinson 16:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Andrew Kennedy b: 1782 [21 July 2015]


My Kennedy family research has connected me with Andrew Kennedy, twin of Robert. I found a Kennedy family bible that lists Andrew Kennedy with the exact birth and death dates (m/d/y) as your Andrew. Andrew was married to Frances Peres (her father was Dr. Peter Peres, a surgeon in the Rev War) and they had at least three children - Henry Peres, Frances and Andrew. Henry is my ancestor and he moved his family from Philadelphia to Cincinnati in 1850 and then later into Northern Ky where I reside. Do you know if Robert and Andrew were identical twins? Do you have any other Kennedy photos that you could share? I have one of my gr-gr grandfather, William Kennedy, who died in 1948. Thanks for any help and for sharing your family history.

Joyce--PeresKennedy 23:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


To my knowledge Andrew Kennedy Jr. was not married. He worked for a time in the Naval Stores office with his twin brother, Robert. Below are two letters in my possession telling of Andrew's death. The letter is also quoted in the family history written by John Seitz Beck - the {660} is the page in the book where the letter can be found.

{660} It might be well to include at this point a letter written by Robert Kennedy to his son, Andrew III, then at the Norwich Military Academy. It is yellow with age and is badly torn in places, and while not of any particular importance it does tell of the death of the twin brother, Andrew, Jr., born December 12, 1782, died September 27, 1823.

Phila. 31st Oct. 1823. Dear Andrew:

On the 24th inst. I put on board the schooner Pilot, Capt. Milton, one box contg. sundry articles agreeably to the subjoined list, mark'd with your address to the care of Messrs. Parker & Stevens, merchts, Boston. I wrote to Mr. Parker advising him of the shipment, and requested him to forward the box to you. The freight to Boston is pd. Any expense Mr. P. may be at you can repay to him on__________. Anything else you may want mention it and it will be sent by young Innesly* when he returns. He has held the list of books, &c., you charged him with. Your mother is quite pleased with your present -- the bark, &c. I have deposited it among my collection of curiosities. Your two expeditions have afforded you an opportunity of seeing and learning something of the country and the names and customs of the inhabitants. Your description of those things, together with the letter of thanks to those whose hospitality you enjoyed, are very good. I am glad you embraced the chance which the excursions offered you to see the country. You are fortunate that you did not get sick after enduring so much fatigue and wet in your climate. You should take care of your health. Among the clothing sent you will find flannel drawers, &c. I advise you to wear them and make yourself comfortable. The difference between the climate of Phila. and Norwich is greater than I had imagined. No snow here yet, early in the morning a little cold, today the coldest this season, a thin skin of ice in the gutters, which the sun soon melted. I am surprised you saw no game on your route. You have not named even the robin. They are here in great numbers. We have been frequently out after them and have sometimes been very successful. Birds are no rarity in our house. John and Robt. have improved in their field sports as much as in their schooling. It is supposed that the robins migrate at the approach of winter from the northern regions and seek a milder climate in the south. If you have not seen nor heard anything of them it is evident they do not locate themselves so far north as has been imagined. Your brothers have recovered their health. John, indeed, has occasionally a slight chill of the ague, but he will not allow it to prevent him shooting. In what manner do you expect to spend the month of Dec.? It is a long vacation. It will be too cold to hunt game, so you will have to pass off some of the time in reading, and now and then give us a long letter. Your mother wrote to you some time past and, I believe, mentioned your Uncle Andrew's death, which occurred on the 27th of September. This {661} event and the circumstances surrounding it have been to me a source of trouble and affliction. My feelings will not allow me even now to enter into a detailed account of these things. At another time we will discourse more upon the subject. It has pleased God to relieve him from his sufferings. I buried him in the 2d Presbyterian burial ground, by the side of my father and mother, and have the consoling reflection that nothing which a brother should do before and after his death was left undone. I received a letter from Aunt Long and am sorry to inform you that Eliza's husband (the Doct.) is dead. He died, it is said, of the bilious fever, in the western section of the country. The yellow fever has made great havoc among the officers in the West, at Thompson's Island, and among whom are many of our acquaintances. I have appointed Mr. Crabbe in the room of your Uncle Andrew, and I find him an able assistant. We shall do very well together. They have increased his pay to more than double the amount he received previously. He has a large family and is in need of it. I have purchased a handsome watch, which I intend for you. I would have sent it but no resident offered and I felt it would get injured in the box.

also on pg 63 and 662 - letter dated Aug 19, 1823 - so it appears Andrew, Jr was ill and died a month later-[neither page quotes the whole letter]

Dear John: I have but just time to scribble you a few lines by Mr. West, who starts tomorrow for Philad. Yours of the 27th I was much pleased to receive tho it contained much disagreeable news. You are obliged to relate it, good or bad. I was very much surprised and was very sorry to hear of Capt. Rinker's death. Of Uncle Andrew's insanity I was, I can assure you, very sorry indeed to hear because I was under the impression he was getting better instead of worse. The whole weight of official duties now comes upon Papa. You must do your utmost to help in his accounts, &c. You can, no doubt, post his books for him now and then. Whether the alterations making in the N. Yard are for its improvement or not I cannot tell, but presume they are. I was disappointed in learning that Mr. Hays did not intend coming on to the Academy, and no doubt you all were. I am very much obliged, indeed to you all in preparing the articles you mentioned and regret the opportunity for sending them did not arise.

You can read/search the book at:

So unfortunately there are a lot of Andrew Kennedy's in PA as even witness the 1790 censuses. It would be hard to believe that two different Andrew Kennedys had two different twin brothers, Robert Kennedy. I don't know if my Robert and Andrew were identical twins.

I would be very interested in seeing your documentation - the family bible - but at this time I am not sure our Andrews are the same.

Keep in touch. Peggy - 15:31, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Beck family [28 March 2016]

Peggy, I'm very glad you populated this information, and I'm going to try to add some more. My Grandfather was Charles Beck, John's brother. I would be very interested in the book that John wrote if you have an electronic version. Thanks Charley Beck--Beagles371 23:10, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I am still doing family history, but have gotten hung up in some tree maintenance and I have not been on the werelate site for some time. My direct email is - I will be glad to share the book - it is online at a fellow genealogists site: scroll down to the 3rd paragraph - "The Thirteenth Earl of Cassillis"

Peggy--Peggytrobinson 13:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)