User talk:Artefacts



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Michael Dowd & Catherine O'Keeffe [13 November 2013]

Hi Artefacts,

I've just seen your WeRelate entry on Michael Dowd and his wives, Mary Reynolds and Catherine O'Keeffe. I believe Michael and Catherine are my great-grandparents, but their youngest daughter Catherine (my late grandmother) is not listed after Eva on your account of the family. I believe Catherine was the only member of the family to remain in Ireland, as I have always heard that all her siblings emigrated to the USA (though I'm not sure if this relates to her full siblings only or to all her step-siblings too).

I would be happy to share the information and sources I have with you, since you have provided me with so much material I was unaware of!

Regards, DeepSleeper--DeepSleeper 22:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

[16 March 2014]


I have been reading through the recent discussion with interest, wondering how to add my two cents' worth, when I noted your Ontario examples. So this note is partly a hello from another WR user with an Ontario family. There aren't that many of us about.

I didn't know that the French Canadian priests messed up the Irish homelands, but I think the Irish ones who came out to help them paid them back by misspelling places in Quebec. Have you seen WR's list of Quebec places? (I think that someone decided adding the accents was more important than getting the organization straight.)

The problems of French Canadian and Irish priests providing information on their congregations merged in Mara Township (previously in Ontario County, now part of Ramara in Simcoe). An early contribution to WR has probably provided us with the whole Roman Catholic population of Mara Township. The inconsistencies there are beyond belief.

I joined WeRelate in 2012. With almost half my family Ontario-born back to 1800 I soon found out that WR needed some education in how the province went together. Members from south of the border did not appear to have considered the concept that some state-equivalent places changed their names during the 19th century, much less did they realize that alterations to municipalities might occur post-1970. I was challenged numerous times with the problem of presenting WR with a birthplace such as [[Place:Markham (township), York, Upper Canada, Canada]] or [[Place:Pickering (township), Ontario, Canada West, Canada]]. Each time I hoped the automatic pipe would put it in the right place. It didn't always happen because the database had been poorly drawn up.

Consequently I decided to spend several months of 2012 sorting out Ontario placepages (you have no idea of the number of familiar places which were in the "unknown" category when I started), county by county. One of my first work experiences in Toronto was to learn the townships in each Ontario county. Little did I know then how useful this knowledge would be once I discovered genealogy. I don’t live in Canada any more and it was a bit of a shock to discover that since 1970 the counties had been asked to reorganize themselves and they have done so in a myriad of ways, sometimes twice.

I now live in England and last year I decided to sort out place pages for various counties in the UK. Guess what? They also decided to change the municipal organization in the 1970s, but the whole country had to do it together in 1974. Some places didn't like it and have gone back to the old names or something part way between the old and the new. Great fun!

Sorting out modern place-naming from a distance has been made worse by the fact that the world wide web was discovered and put to use just after these post-1970 alterations were put into place. Many Wikipedia articles and municipal websites present the current facts and forget to mention the changes that have occurred in the past 50 years. Digging for the facts has sometimes been very time consuming. Try telling someone under 40 from Oshawa that Whitby used to be in Ontario County! Yes, Ontario is now a confusing name for a county, but before 1867 it would have been perfectly acceptible.

Regards --Goldenoldie 19:35, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Weather [16 March 2014]

Gee, Hasn't it thawed out in TO yet? It's spring here. Daffodils in bloom, birds singing their hearts out at 7am, going outside without a coat, the lot!

Our family stopped supplying people to be related to in the 1930s. I was an only grandchild. But in studying the Keffers (a study that started by correcting placenames on WeRelate and expanded to add 19th century census entries) I discovered that three Keffer men married girls named Quantz (from Markham Township) and so did the sister of my great-great grandmother (well, she married the brother of at least one of them). /cheers --Goldenoldie 21:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

References; Atkinson Family [30 June 2014]


I saw your query on the Support page about using references on PlacePages and was wondering how you employed it. It might be useful on some of the many placepages I set up.

Then, looking at the people in your tree, I saw that you have an Ambrose Atkinson in Northumberland, Ontario. My great-great grandfather, Ambrose Atkinson (1818-1898), lived in "old" Ontario County from 1847 till his death. I don't see any obvious links when comparing the two trees--even the fact that they both happened to marry a woman named Mitchell is probably no more than a coincidence. (In my gg-gf's case his second wife's first married name was Mitchell.)

/cheers --Goldenoldie 10:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello again Goldenoldie! I am working on setting up informal templates for sections of place pages using my wikipedia formatting knowledge (doesn't always work here). I might try to turn them into actual formatting templates if I figure out how to program those. Right now I am building: Timeline, Demographic statistical tables, and Source coverage tables. I am doing this in the place page for Place:Creech St Michael, where I also just created a Source Citations section and got help getting refs to list there if you want to take a look. Using refs helps reduce the clutter and size of tables (and also makes it more encyclopedic). Once I have tested out how well these templates work, I hope to deploy them in a template for creating townland pages in the Irish Townlands Project (I am moving somewhat slowly on that as I figure out how best to research townlands, also, huge volumes) which may be similar to your Scottish work. Will look into Ambrose in a moment (on wrong computer) and see if I can down trace the next generation to look for a connection! --Artefacts 16:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Parameters in Templates [10 October 2014]

You asked earlier about how to add parameters to a template so that the number of transcriptions, etc could be passed to the template.

If you look at the FindAGrave template you will see an example of how to pass parameters. If you have any questions, perhaps I can help you sort it out.

Rick----RGMoffat 18:02, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rick, I did find and exemplar and think I have it figure out, just need some time ... --Artefacts 22:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)