User talk:Parsa



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Census Source Pages [7 March 2009]

Hello, I am a volunteer admin here at WeRelate.

I noticed that you have created a few source pages for U.S. censuses. I wanted to direct you to our naming convention for this type of source: Help:Source_page_titles#United_States. Generally, any time a source is geographically-oriented, such as this, they are titled in the form: Place.Title (where Place is in the order country, state, county, town). So Source:1860 Federal Census, Shelby County, Indiana would be titled: United States, Indiana, Shelby. 1860 U.S. Census Population Schedule. You may also want to see this talk page for a current discussion about Census sources at the state level. Please let me know if you have any questions.--Jennifer (JBS66) 15:05, 7 March 2009 (EST)

I'm starting to work on changing and redirecting these. There sure are a lot of census records that don't follow this format though.--Parsa 19:26, 7 March 2009 (EST)

MySources [7 March 2009]

I noticed that you do a wonderful job using MySources! I don't yet have a featured MySource for the Portal Page. Would you mind if I used one of your pages? Do you recommend any in particular? Thank you!--Jennifer (JBS66) 19:23, 7 March 2009 (EST)

Perhaps this one for now: MySource:Parsa/Jacob_Varner_Certificate_of_Disability_for_Discharge_1863. --Parsa 19:26, 7 March 2009 (EST)

Thank you very much. I added that page to the Portal. It serves as a great example of the intention behind MySources and how they can be used effectively.--Jennifer (JBS66) 19:35, 7 March 2009 (EST)

Pedigree Template [11 June 2009]

I just tried out your pedigree2 template and it is perfect for what I need. Thank you for posting it.--Judy (jlanoux) 13:55, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

You're welcome. - Parsa 01:11, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

I realized I wanted to use the pedigree from somewhere other that the subject's Person page. So I have attempted to create a variation Pedigree3 template which seems to work. I wanted a link to the subjects page. Please take a look and let me know if I have erred in the instructions or implementation. Also, is it ok if your family remains in the example? This is my first attempt at a template. --Judy (jlanoux) 19:16, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, it's fine. - Parsa 02:19, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

my name is Parsa...Please read [17 October 2009]

Hello Mr.Varner,

I hope that is your name. I am assuming that based on a photo I saw on we relate website. Gosh I am not sure where to start... I had come across a website a while back called Parsa's Page, and it surprised me to say the least. I took a quick look around it and thought I would some day send and email asking why the Page was called Parsa's Page. Needless to say I never got around to it because it didnt seem to have anything to do with what I was looking for.

Which is what brings me to now. I came across it again by searching my name on google just for the heck of it, and once again, along with several other website, we relate site came up and I decided to take a look , and there was a user by the name Parsa, which I take is you,so I started reading it.

Ok,so I registered to we relate and much to my surprise I came across alot of information,( none of which I could understand much ),since I am new to the site and have no idea what it is all about. So to get to the point, I notice all this information about family trees,dna, etc etc. and alot of it is based in Clay county Indiana and terra haute indiana of which most of my family is from, Ive been told.

My first name is Parsa, and so is my mothers first name ,and I have been told my whole life that it is an old family name,that was once traced back to the 1700,s and my mother was named after my Great,Great Aunt Parsa Jensen,(maiden name LIGHT, lived in Boone N.C. but was born in CLAY CITY indiana. and was the sister of my grandfathers mother.

I have spent MANY years looking up geneology information to find the heritage of this name and have only come across some information. Some of the information goes way back and there is a big gap of no information up to me.

I am curious as to why your webpage is called Parsa's Page. I dont think this is a fluke ! I have been FREAKING out since i found this website, little less than an hour ago, when i spent years trying to trace my first name. I can only hope this is the connection I have been desperately looking for and you hold some answers to my mystery.

My grandfather told me when I was about 16, now i'm 46, that he had done approx 20 yrs of research tracing our family history and logging it in a document he created,and that one day when I was old enough, I would receive a copy, to know the importance of my name. Well unfortunately, my grandfather passed when I was 18 and all of my grandparents belonging, including this precious information, were given to his son(my Uncle) who was executor to the estate. I was told by my Uncle, that he would have the family tree information duplicated so that each family member would receive a copy, and once again unfortunately he also passed a few years later. His children, which are my cousins , were quite young at the time and dont remember such documents. I spoke to My Aunt ( by marriage of my Uncle ) and requested her to locate the information and I would take over with the duplication of this very important Family history. I lost contact with this aunt by marriage, and for several years tried to find her, and once again she had also passed and when I asked my cousins if they knew where to find this log, they stated that there was a flood at there home years back and everything was thrown away.

I can only guess sadly, that all this information my grandfather worked so hard on ( long before computers) was lost forever. Most of my family have passed and there is no one who can really tell me surnames, so that I can link some of the information that I have found. One bit of information that I do know is that my mother says that there is a book called the COOPERRIDER CHRONICLES , that has something to do with our family and a connection.

I apologize for the length of this email, but have been so desperate to find ANYTHING in relation to my name. I am so excited right now, and all I keep thinking is that WHAT IS MY LUCK that i just happen upon your website and you could hold all the missing links.

Please let me know if I am even on the right track. And any information you have regarding my families geneology. I will be willing to do the same with any information you need.

I will be waiting anxiously for your response...


Parsa Johnson--Parjohn1 18:17, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

Parsa is just a username. It is the name for the Persian homeland in the Persian language. The city-state that was the center of the empire is generally known by the Greek name, Persepolis (Parsa-polis). I first used it on ebay as I collect Persian coins on occasion. I now use it on many web sites.--Parsa 00:29, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

This Week's WeRelate Featured Page [3 January 2011]

Hello, just wanted to let you know that one of the people that you added to WeRelate, Erastus Varner, has been selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page, and is shown on the Main Page! Thanks for the contribution and keep up the nice work!

Best regards,

Jim Co-Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 14:33, 3 January 2011 (EST)

Varner/Warner [2 March 2011]

Hi Steve! I may have contacted you before. Your dna matches my brother's DNA 25 Marker Gen Dis 1 and 37 Marker Gen Dis 1. His name is Richard Glenn Warner. What's your thought on what the DNA connection means?

I didn't realized your family had been in Indiana. Shelby County, where Jacob Clay Varner was is only about 30 minutes from my home. I believe my line descends from Christoffel Werner. His son Adam moved to Ohio and little is known of him with other Varner/Warner researchers. My line (from memory)is:

Dawn Warner Perry Reed Warner Harold Warner Arthur Warner George Warner Adam Kepler Warner Henry J. Warner Adam Warner Christoffel Werner Johann Adam Werner

I have recently convinced Jim of Journey through Time, that my Adam is Christoffel's son. We don't have the solid documentation to prove it yet, but he admitted a few days ago after I sent him all my documentation that he thinks it is VERY likely the same guy.

A descendent of Adam's son David was Daniel Sidney Warner who founded the Church of God movement in the 1800s. Anderson University (Church of God) in Anderson Indiana has some of Daniel Warners papers. In a book called "Birth of a Reformation" written in the early 1900's, Daniel's Grandfather is listed as Adam WArner and his great grandfather as Christoffel Warner. It's all online. This was written decades before computers or VERY likely accurate. Practically speaking...who's going to pull the name Christoffel Werner out of thin air??? The only problem is that it says they were from VA in one instance. It does say in the next sentence in the same book that a granddaughter said they were Pennsylvania German. It was high brow to be a Virginian...i think the Virginia bit was embellishment and nothing more.

I'm betting in a couple of years we will have nearly all of our Varner Warner lines fairly complete. The internet is sure making the connections easier lately!

What state are you in? I'm in Indianapolis.

If you are NOT in Indiana...and need something searched nearby...let me know and perhaps i can help you.

Best wishes on your searching!

Dawn Warner Perry--Gmahug 01:50, 2 March 2011 (EST)


As I point out in the Alexander Varner (1) page, I believe he is likely a close relative of John Varner, since Alexander was living next to three of his known children. Alexander was not in his will however. I am certain I am related to Johannes Adam "Hans" Werner the immigrant, since I am related to a cluster of 8 or 9 people, some of whom have proven descent from Hans Werner. My connection is not proven, but was highly likely before I had my DNA test. In fact, it turns out that I am currently one of two "modal haplotype" members of the Varner DNA group for that Werner family (the other person also has a Warner surname). In other words, the other related people all vary from mine by a marker or two.

So I didn't really understand the differences (if any) between myself and your brother. Perhaps you can email me with information.

Are you a member of the Family Tree DNA Varner project? Many of the people are Warners, Vernors, etc. I have a chart comparing the DNA of all the people in the group; a list that is only sent to members. Here is the link to join: VARNER project page

—--Parsa 12:02, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Updates to Erastus Varner page [22 April 2011]

I've updated the person page for Erastus Perry Varner, a featured article. I think it's a lot better now. I fixed the source and note links (since the system changed) for both Erastus and his brother, Jacob Varner. I added some new sources and facsimile images, such as a marriage and death certificate. — Parsa 01:48, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Cemetery categories [25 April 2011]

Hi, Parsa! I've noticed you've been adding cemetery pages. Thank you! I think that cemetery pages could become very valuable resources on WeRelate. I have one request. When you add the link to the cemetery category, please add the cemetery name as a sort key (for example [[Category:Cemeteries of Crawford, Illinois, United States|Beckwith]]). Otherwise, all of the pages end up under "P" for "Place:", which doesn't make for a very intuitive layout. Similarly, if you need to create the link from the county cemetery category to the state cemetery category, add the name of the county as the sort key: [[Category:Cemeteries of Illinois, United States|Crawford]]. Thanks for all of your contributions! -- Amy (Ajcrow) 09:23, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the info. Perhaps you can point me to the help topic or tutorial on categories where this is mentioned. Perhaps there are some other tips I can pick up.
Also, I wanted to have a way to link to a category within the text for the county page. Since cemeteries are one of the most important genealogical resources in a county, it makes sense to list them in the county pages. However, since there is already a category that does this, I wanted to make a section called "Cemeteries", and just say, "For a list of Crawford County cemeteries on WeRelate, see: [[Category:Cemeteries of Crawford, Illinois, United States]]. Or something like that. However, although you can link to places and people inside text, it doesn't seem possible to link to categories like that. It just automatically puts the category on the bottom of the page. I suppose that's what is supposed to happen when a Category link appears anywhere on the page. I could just make the category show up on the bottom, but that's not a very visible option. Any suggestions? — Parsa 11:49, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
I looked and couldn't find a good "how to" for the cemetery categories, so I added one here.
There is a bit of a trick to adding a link to a category page. Place a colon in front of the word "Category" -- [[:Category:Cemeteries of Crawford, Illinois, United States]]. You can also add a pipe symbol at the end to change the text. For example, [[:Category:Cemeteries of Crawford, Illinois, United States|List of Crawford County Cemeteries]] would look like this List of Crawford County Cemeteries.
Historically, categories haven't gotten a whole lot of love here on WR. However, with projects like the Cemetery Portal, the American Civil War veterans, etc., I think that is starting to change. -- Amy (Ajcrow) 12:17, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

BTW, I like what you're doing with the Beckwith Cemetery page! -- Amy (Ajcrow) 16:33, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

I'm working on New Hebron currently. I have about three relatives there that served in the war, and my GG grandfather, George W. Beam, was the captain of Company H 152nd Illinois that many of them were in. He's buried in Idaho, however. His wife's parents are buried in New Hebron also. The cemetery work is partly to find out who is where. - Parsa 17:52, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Another WeRelate Featured Page! [7 June 2011]

Hi Parsa, just wanted to let you know that your Person Page: William Banks has been selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page! Great job and keep up the good work.

Best regards,

Co-Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 19:43, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Changing featured page templates is a minor edit [14 May 2012]

Please hit minor edit when making these changes. Thanks.--Amelia 15:59, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Are you getting notifications for some reason? Most of these don't have many watchers. Some of the pages have no featured Page template at all, so it's not really minor to add one. — Parsa 16:19, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
Oh, I see you're an admin watching general changes. So you don't get messaged on the minor edits? — Parsa 16:20, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
Yes, I had gotten over a dozen notifications - there have been a lot of featured pages over the years, and I created or am watching a large number of them. Thank you for checking the box now; I've avoided at least a half dozen more emails, since they are not generated for minor edits.--Amelia 19:27, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

DNA Template [28 May 2012]

Hi Parsa,

Would be interested to hear your views on the formatting of the DNA template I've pulled together at Template_talk:DNA-Y12. Would you use such a thing? Thanks AndrewRT 18:53, 28 May 2012 (EDT)