User talk:Btomp



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Person Title Pages [26 September 2007]


I'm Mary, one of the volunteer administrators for WeRelate. One of our "conventions" is to have only a first name and last name on Person and Family page titles, even when the middle name is known. Consequently, I renamed "William Brewster Stanton" page to "William Stanton." The index number after each name distinguishes one William Stanton from another, and people can still search for the full name with our search engine. It makes it easier to prevent duplicate entries when page titles are limited to first and last name, so we don't get multiple versions (all 3 names, 2 names, 2 names plus a middle initial, etc.).

The full name is always retained on the actual Person page as you entered it, by the way--it's just an issue with the page title.

Thank you for joining and contributing your material to WeRelate!

Mary--Kittydoc 10:26, 26 September 2007 (EDT)

Cornelius Nightingale/Emma gale [9 August 2008]

My grandmother Florence Nightingale was Emma gales sister.I have the Family History of all the nightingales back to 1789 but do not have the following 1 Emma Gales death date and where she was in the 1871 and 1891 censuses 2. What happened to Robert George Nightingale ,born 1816 who married Margaret Frances Coleman in 1839. 3 what happened to Emma's children Alice Gale and Henry john Gale.

Can you help? 
John Halliday--Hallidayb 12:10, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

It would appear that in the 1891 Census Emma was a servant in the Household of Frederick Roden at Haselbury Plucknett, Somerset. Transcribed on Ancestry as Kightingale, aged 26. Her place of birth is given as London. (Class: RG12; Piece: 1895; Folio 82; Page 4)--Btomp 13:27, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

A UK or England Portal ? [20 July 2009]

Would you be interested in establishing a UK or England Portal to help raise some interest in WeRelate among UK centred researchers ? I note how a Uk and Aus portal has helped sites such as ancestry.

Theres a danger that UK researchers migh look at WeRelate and think it is predominantly US centred (OK it might be but we could change that)


Dale Rodgers (Melbourne, Australia but originally form West Yorkshire, England) HolmeVillageHome--Dsrodgers34 10:41, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

Awesome [7 February 2010]

I'm working on a project adding categories to notable people and came across your suffrage pages (Person:Nora Blatch (2), etc.) I just wanted to say you've done an awesome job both gathering the evidence and putting it all together on the page. I wish we had more people doing that! --Amelia 12:29, 7 February 2010 (EST)

Cox family [19 September 2010]

Hi - are you researching the cox family in Taunton? They are my ancestors from several generations ago. Would you like to share information? Thanks--Emmacox 16:34, 19 September 2010 (EDT)

This Week's Featured Page [22 September 2010]

Hello, just wanted to let you know that your page Maiden Newton, Dorset, England has been selected as this week's WeRelate Featured Page! I also added a small photo of the train station in Maiden Newton to its page. Good work, best regards and congratulations on your 2nd Featured Page (since I started doing the Featured Pages):)

Best regards,

Jim - Volunteer Administrator on WeRelate--Delijim 18:35, 21 September 2010 (EDT)

William Pascoe's Family [16 January 2011]

Hi There,

I've just found "We Relate", and checked for Pascoe's. This family is part of my family tree. Are you a descendant on the USA side? I'm in Australia, and a descendant of one of William's brothers.

Trying to work out how to edit William's wife, as I have her identity, and would like to update.

Cheers, Rogo--Rogo 03:43, 16 January 2011 (EST)

Jane Pascoe [17 January 2011]

Hi There

I'm new to this site, and having trouble navigating, familiarising etc. The William Pascoe family that you have listed is my family, and I've done intensive work on it. Have tried to record William's wife on this site, so some details under his name.

With his daughter Jane, you have her married to a fellow named Dobb. This is the incorrect Jane Pascoe for your fellow. William's daughter married a Thomas Bury Burton, in Madron, where all his children married. I've put as many notes and references as I can under her name.

Do you know about the Online Parish Clerks of Cornwall site? It's extremely useful for free Cornish reocrds, although not a lot of Penzance records have been loaded yet. You can also email the parish clerks with queries. Also FreeCEN, is fabulous for census record searches.

Happy to discuss this. Cheers, Ro--Rogo 21:31, 16 January 2011 (EST)

Duplicate families [20 December 2011]

Hi Btomp,

When you have a moment, please take a look at your Duplicates List by going to My Relate>Show Duplicates. It’s a good idea to check this list on a regular basis. There are a few families there that are potential matches. We have an ongoing site-wide project to merge duplicates, but it is always better if somebody familiar with the families can make the merge. Here is our help page on merging. If you have any questions, just let me know. Thanks! --Jennifer (JBS66) 14:44, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Congratulations! [8 June 2012]

(Sorry for this late note congratulating you for winning the contests "John Houston, Whitney Houston's grandfather" and "George Katsutoshi Nakashima." I have been away caring for a family member.)

Congratulations! You are the winner of the WeRelate Genealogy Contest. Thank you for making WeRelate a great resource for historians and genealogists. We really appreciate your contributions! If you like, you can add this graphic Image:Img0772012 werelate winner.gif to your user page, signifying that you are a winner. Thanks again : ) --cthrnvl 11:23, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [23 June 2012]

Congratulations - you won the John Nicholas Ringling genealogy contest at WeRelate. Thanks for playing : )--cthrnvl 08:50, 23 June 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [30 June 2012]

You won the May Arkwright Hutton Genealogy Contest! Thank you Btomp, we really appreciate your contributions : ) --cthrnvl 22:50, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [6 July 2012]

Congratulations for winning the Person:Henry Ephron (1) & Person:Phoebe Wolkind (1) genealogy contest! Thank you for playing : ) --cthrnvl 14:48, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [20 July 2012]

Congratulations for winning last week's genealogy contest Person:Thomas O'Mara (1). Thank you for your contributions! --cthrnvl 14:21, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [27 July 2012]

Congratulations Btomp, for winning the Sylvia (Pressley) Woods genealogy contest! --cthrnvl 15:01, 27 July 2012 (EDT)

Congratulations! [10 August 2012]

Congratulations for winning the Shelby Harris genealogy contest. Thank you for playing Btomp! --cthrnvl 15:59, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

Samuel MARTIN [19 January 2013]


Are you related to Samuel MARTIN (1846-1892)of Frome Somerset, ENGLAND?

Samuel is my great grandfather.

Prussian--Prussian 10:46, 7 December 2012 (EST)

No I am not. The entry was part of my general intrest in Mells. See --Btomp 19:09, 7 December 2012 (EST)

Copyright Issue [30 November 2013]

You deleted the text of a source I used in citing a newspaper reference for substantiating the data and facts for Genevieve Catherine Faron. Rather than just reverting the deletion (which I feel I have a right to do), I would like to explain and substantiate my use of the wording of the reference verbatim.

Many publishers and copyright SMEs state that a recitation of facts are not violation of copyright laws, and furthermore, cannot be legitimately copyrighted in the first place. Even a retelling of the facts must "reach the unique creation test of copyright law" in order to have copyright laws even be applicable. That is why genealogical data and vital statistics cannot be copyrighted, unless the presentation and compilation of the individual facts are so unique that it substantially creates a unique work of literary prose or art. A newspaper obituary column is none of these.

Furthermore, the Fair Use Doctrine, as set out in Federal Law at 17 U.S.C. § 107, states, "the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means..., for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include - (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;..." (highlights added as my emphasis points). In other words, the transcription of an obituary (even completely in its whole) could very well be a fair use even if the newspaper does have a valid copyright.

The character of use here at for copied obituaries clearly shows that we use the information as a non-commercial, educational, non-for-profit organization.

Please review an opinion piece by Dan Hamrick at Rootsweb, an editorial by Judy G. Russell at The Legal Genealogist, and an expert opinion by AFry at Copyright Advisory Network. There are many other that further support my viewpoint.

Now I'd appreciate you citing your credentials for deleting the text of the obituary. Thank you.

--BobC 02:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Frank ReginaldTompkins [13 March 2014]


I'm interested in Frank as I am helping a contact research Frank's mother's family, the Fergusons. I have a great deal of info on them which you might be interested in

My main interest though is in an artefact which a member of the Ferguson family has told me about

As a young man my contact visited his aunt Mildred Rosamond Ferguson who lived at 36 Maybush Rd Southampton UK. Her nephew Frank R Tompkins lived next door at number 38.

Mildred Rosamund showed my contact a genealogical chart which seemingly depicted the blood-line of that branch of Ferguson family dating back to the 13th century. It is a fact that he saw the chart - how accurate it was of course there's no way of telling, and one naturally doubts the accuracy of such a thing unless the research is very sound

Mildred died 28th February 1972. Her will was dated 30 November 1969 and probate was granted on 24th August 1972. Frank was one of the executors. Mildred's estate was left between her sisters Mrs Hornsey nee Beatrice Mary Ferguson and Frank's mother Mrs Tompkins nee Kate Hilda Ferguson. Both survived her.

Kate Hilda died in summer 1976 and Frank died later that same year, presumably having inherited a share in his mother's estate along with his sister Joan. I found Frank's marriage to Nellie V Holt, but I haven't been able to find children of the marriage. I believe Joan Married Colin Hunt in 1951

Beatrice Mary had only daughters.

What my contact is desperate to know is what became of the genealogical chart

I'd be very grateful for your comments on this


Nestor--Nestor 13:49, 13 March 2014 (UTC)