Person:John Mann (62)

m. Bef 1725
  1. John Mann, Jr.1725 - 1774
  2. Moses MannAbt 1727 - Bef 1756
  3. William Mann1731 - 1778
  4. Thomas MannBet 1735 & 1738 - 1772
m. Abt 1749
  1. Moses MannAbt 1750 - 1849
  2. Elizabeth Mann1752 - Abt 1825
  3. Jean Mann1755 -
  4. Asa 'Esauh' MannAbt 1758 - 1786
  5. John Mann1764 - 1766
  6. Joseph Mann1765 - 1820
  7. Priscilla Mann1770 - 1870
Facts and Events
Name John Mann, Jr.
Gender Male
Birth[1] 1725 Ulster, Northern Ireland
Marriage Abt 1749 Virginiato Frances Elizabeth 'Dames' Carpenter
Death[1] 10 Oct 1774 Point Pleasant, Mason County, Virginia

John Mann, Jr. was one of the Early Settlers of Augusta County, Virginia


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Not to be confused with contemporary John Mann (b. 1727), son of George Barnet Mann of Germany, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania and Stoney Run, Augusta County, Virginia.

Early Land Acquisition in Augusta County, VA

Acquisition of Land from Chalkley's:

  • Page 487.--17th August, 1762. Joseph Carpenter to John Mann, £70, 230 acres on Jackson's River.

Disposition of Land from Chalkley's:

  • Page 735.--10th September, 1763. John Mann and Damis to Thomas Meek, £73.15, 254 acres conveyed by Beverley to Moses Mann, 4th February, 1748. and descended to John as eldest brother and heir-at-law of Moses; corner Wm. McCutchen's land. Grassy Lick Run. Teste: Hugh, Johnston. Robert Reed. Wm. Mann, John Smith, James Graham. Delivered: Thos. Meek, March, 1773.
Related Records:
Page 736.--Damis Mann's relinquishment of dower, 9th July, 1764. Delivered: John Meek, 10th January, 1787.
Vol. 1 - NOVEMBER 20, 1764. - (160) Damis, wife of John Mann, relinquishment of dower.

Records in Augusta County, VA

From Chalkley’s Augusta County Records:

  • Page 167.--19th August, 1756. John Man's bond (with Adam and Jno. Dickinson) as administrator of Moses Man. (Note: Moses was John's brother).
  • Page 403.--20th August, 1760. Widow Swoob's appraisement, by Jos. Carpenter, Peter Wright, Jno. Mann.
  • Vol. 1 - MARCH, 1764 (C). - John Mann vs. Jeremiah Seely.--Ejected, 25th May, 1763. Fort Young.
  • Page 873.--20th May, 1765. Same (from Joseph Carpenter, Sr.) to Solomon Carpenter, planter, £10, 160 acres, John Man's line. Delivered: Wm. Huggart, 4th November, 1772.
  • Page 40.--24th August, 1767. Account of administration of estate of Col. John McNeill, recorded--Cash paid Wm. Duncan for board of servants under cure; to gold watch sold George Weedon. 1765, April 1st-- Cash paid Joseph Gamble for riding express for Col. McNeile to Dr. Jameson. July 4th--Cash paid in part of Farghagh Cambel's account. November 5th--Cash paid James Hughes the balance of Farghagh Camil account. Cash paid Hector McNeil. 1766, January 1st--Cash paid Mr. James Melvin. 1766, January 9th--To cash paid Wm. Lewis for 750 pounds flower for ye use of ye detachment Col. McNeil marched to Fort Pitt. July 2d-- Cash paid John Coke. Credits--1765, February, by 5 ounces, 3 pennyweights of gold, £25.16.0.; by 35 dollars and 2 half johannos, £14.13.9.; by 1 moidon, 6 Inglish shillings; by cash from Col. Bouquet, £90.0.0.; by cash from Capt. Walter Cunningham, £12.16.9.; by cash from John Mann. August 20th, by cash from Edward Long for blankets. 1766, May 22d, by cash from Wm. Hyde.
  • Page 116.--18th September, 1767. John Cloyd's estate sold at vendue George Poage, Thos. Arbuckle, John Man, Andw. Wilson, Josiah Crawford, Robert Kirkham.
  • Vol. 1 - MARCH 16, 1768. - (499) John Mann qualifies administrator of Caleb May.
  • Page 79.--16th March, 1768. John Mann's bond (with Wm. Mann) as administrator of Caleb Moy.
  • Vol. 2 - McDowell vs. Robinson--O. S. 27; N. S. 9--Bill dated 5th May, 1791. Elizabeth McDowell, widow of James McDowell, who died October, 1771, intestate, leaving an only son James, an infant. Samuel McDowell of Kentucky, brother of James, qualified with Elizabeth, as Admrs. Deposition of Samuel McDowell in Mercer County, Kentucky, 20th November, 1792. Elizabeth brought suit in Botetourt in 1772, against Solomon Carpenter, which was tried in 1784. Solomon died before 1784 intestate, leaving several children, of whom Thomas was oldest; also a son, Jeremiah Carpenter. John Carpenter was son and heir of Thomas Carpenter. Copy of deed, 12th August, 1779. Moses Mann, son and heir of John Mann, dec'd, of Botetourt, and Fanny, his wife, to Jeremiah Carpenter of Greenbrier County. Proved in Botetourt, August, 1779.
  • Vol. 2 - Block vs. Meek--O. S. 284; N. S. 93--Bill, 1816. Complainants are Samuel Black and Nancy, late Meek. Many years ago David Meek of Augusta died owning land in Augusta conveyed by John Mann to Thomas Meek, father of David. David died, intestate, leaving widow Elizabeth and children, viz: Elizabeth, Sally M. McKnight, and oratrix. McKnight is dead.

Information on John Mann, Jr.

The following article details the life of John Mann, Sr., father of this John Mann:

THE FOUR SONS OF JOHN MAN In this chapter I will address the four known children of John Man, emigrant to Virginia in 1735. According to Kegley and supported by court records, John had at least four sons. Their names were John, Moses, William and Thomas. Moses, the second son, as stated in another portion of this manuscript, purchased land from William Beverley on February 3, 1748 on the Grassy Lick Run in the Beverley Manor land grant. He is described as Moses Mann, planter, which implies at least that he was moderately well-to-do. This land was inherited to his brother John, eldest brother and heir-at-law. Moses was a wanderer and explorer, helping to settle Draper’s Valley, near Christianburg in present day Montgomery county. He was captured by the Indians in February 1756 according to the Preston Register recorded in Lewis Preston Summer’s “Annals of Southwest Virginia”. Moses Mann was captured on Reed Creek in the New River Valley. According to family lore, he escaped from the Indians and returned to his home near Covington but died before August 1756, when his eldest brother and heir-at-law John Mann was appointed administrator of his estate. Since no widow or children are mentioned, it is certain that Moses died without issue. John Mann, with surety Adam Dickenson and bond with Adam Dickinson and John Dickinson qualified as the administrator of Moses’ estate on August 19, 1756, as found in Augusta County Will Book II. John served as an ensign in Captain Cunningham’s expedition of 1764 against the Indians. He lived on Jackson River and is shown there on the 1773 Botetourt county list of Tithables. Also living in William Huggard’s (Hughart) district from the river to the county line and to the western waters were Robert Armstrong and his son Robert, Junior, Joseph Carpenter, Senior and Junior, Nathaniel Carpenter, Zophar Carpenter, Thomas Carpenter, David Glassburn, James and William Graham, Andrew Hamilton, Ezekiel Johnston, John Kinkead, William Mann, William McClintock, Thomas McCalester, Jacob Parsinger, William Robinson, Senior and Junior, two John Robinsons, James Robinson, John Sprowl, William, Christian and Henery Whooley, Peter, Thomas and James Wright. The following year, John and William Mann were among those whose residences were described as being located in the Cowpasture and Jackson River areas and this list was taken by William McClenahan. Again, familiar names appear as neighbors, including Jacob Parsinger, John Sprowl, the Robinsons, the Wooleys and the Wrights. The reason that Thomas Mann, youngest brother of John, Moses and William, is not listed is simply that he died in 1772, as the court books make clear.

John Mann died intestate. Had he left a will, much speculation would have been avoided. Ah well. The estate was inventoried by John Robinson and Peter Wright and contained the following articles:

One brown horse @ 9 pounds, one cutting knife of steel @15 shillings, two boxes irons @16 shillings, one pair of silver shoe buckles @ 1 pound 2 shillings, one plow and tackling @2 pounds 5 shillings, eleven pewter plates @ 1pound 13 shillings. The total value of 15 pounds 11 shillings was carried over to the second page which continued listing the contents of John’s estate thus: five basins, four plates and two dishes @3 pounds 3 shillings 6 pence; three large dishes @ 1 pound 7 shillings; one pair of old (illegible) @ 3 shillings; one stone jug @ 3 shillings; one stock fork @ 5 shillings; two old chest locks @ 4 shillings; three old books @ 1 shilling; one bed @ 1 pound 10 shillings; one woman’s saddle @ 2 pounds, etc. for a total of 30 pounds, 3 shillings and 6 pence. John Mann died a widower, as is apparent both from the lack of feminine articles listed in the inventory save for one saddle and the fact that no widow is named in the administration of the estate.

This was not the total monetary value of what John Mann left his heirs, however. Included in the inventory is a list of the (illegible word) due to the estate of John Mann, deceased: John Jemison’s bond, Gabreal Smither’s bond, William Allen’s bond, Edward Willson’s bond, Francis Bowen’s bond, John Clark’s bond and Arthur Woods’ bond, for a total of 41 pounds 10 shillings 5 pence. Proven accounts were George Minsher, William Fullen, James Meckks, Patrick Willson, James Robinson and Asa and John Mann are listed “by Account” for the respective sums of 2 pounds 15 shillings and 3 pounds 2 shillings 1 pence. Including the sums listed for Asa and John, the sum of the accounts totaled 16 pounds 4 shillings. This was filed by Peter Wright and James Robinson on October 20, 1781, three years after the death of John Mann.

A subsequent tallying up of debts owed and owned by the estate of John Mann was submitted to the Botetourt court on May 31, 1784 by Moses Mann, administrator of the estate. The court examined the accounts and found a balance of 218 pounds 7 shillings and 5 ½ pence was due to Moses Mann. The names mentioned on this list of debtors and debtees were as follows: Zophar Carpenter, estate of William Mann, deceased, David May, James McAfee, Reuben Smithers, Christopher Persinger, Thomas Kelly, John Doughtery, Thomas Carpenter, John Stewart, Crane Brush, James Bambridge, Joseph Hamm, John Sprowl, Jacob Parsinger Senior and Andrew Edmundson.

William Mann, third brother, was the most successful materially, judging from the amount of his estate when he died. The estate was valued above 700 pounds, quite a bit of money for the time. William served as an Indian spy, or scout, and as a sergeant in Colonel William Peachey’s Frontier Battalion in 1759. He also served in Dickenson’s Company of Rangers for several years prior to 1759. The frontier was under constant threat of Indian attack during the decades from 1750 to 1780 and all able bodied men served in the militia. It is estimated that the entire pre Revolutionary population in the area west of the Blue Ridge was about one thousand. William served as a sergeant at Fort Young (Covington) and in 1762 he erected a small stockade fort on a portion of his land near Jackson River. The log cabin has been wonderfully preserved and is still standing, the oldest house in Alleghany county. William Mann was probably born around 1729 or 1730, judging from the fact that his next oldest brother Moses could have been born not later than 1727 in order to purchase that land on the Beverley Manor in 1748. William married Jane Hamilton, daughter of William and Alse Hamilton, possibly in 1755, if the tithable in his household on the 1772 Botetourt county tax list was his son Moses. This would make Moses’ year of birth 1756. However, the will of William Mann makes it clear that his son Thomas was not yet ten years old at the time the will was written, making all of those tithables found in William’s household from 1772 onwards merely indentured servants, farmhands or apprentices. Depending on the source, William married Jane Hamilton anywhere between 1750 and 1760. According to the Mann-McClintic genealogy, which gives precise birthdates and presumably may have been taken from Bible records, the ages of his children were as follows: Moses, born January 17, 1761; Alice, born November 5, 1762; Jennie, born September 7, 1764; Thomas, born March 8, 1771; William Junior, born October 4, 1773; Sarah, born in 1774; John, born December 2, 1775 and Archibald, born August 29, 1778. William, son of John Man the emigrant, died about March 1778 and his will, written February 3, 1778, was probated in November of that year.

Moses, son of William and Jane, married Jane Kinkead in 1779. His will is dated 1816 and is the oldest recorded in Alleghany county. Moses obtained the following land grants, per the Virginia Land Office: December 10, 1792 26 acres on both sides of Jackson River including a saltpetre cave; 835 acres on both sides of Jackson River adjacent to William Taylor, Richard Morris and Robert Kinkaid; April 28, 1798 land on Falling Spring Run (about ten miles north of Covington) adjacent John Mann; April 26, 1815, 200 acres in Bath county (Bath from Botetourt in 1790) on Indian Draught, a branch of Jackson River; April 30, 1795 55 acres on south side of Jackson river near the land of James McCallister; October 10, 1820 400 acres in Bath county on Falling Spring Run adjacent his and Henry Massie’s land.

The second son Thomas married Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Armstrong and had one son, William Thomas Mann. Thomas and Elizabeth were the great grandparents of the New York multimillionaire Isaac Thomas Mann, who built a large mansion in Bramwell, West Virginia, which stands today as a tourist attraction. Elizabeth married for the second time to James Steele and had nine children by this marriage. After his marriage to Elizabeth, Thomas moved to Monroe county, West Virginia, four miles south of Fort Springs.

William died unmarried. The story of how Thomas and William Mann met their fate goes something like this: After Thomas had moved to present day Monroe county, he and his brother William went to Ohio to fight the Indians. They probably served under General Wayne, who in 1794 overcame the hostile Indians who had broken out about three years before and cut to pieces St. Clair’s army. It appears that the two brothers were on the south side of the Kanawha river when a man named Simon Girty appeared on the opposite side of the river and gave the sign of distress, requesting them to come over in a boat for him, saying that he was being pursued by Indians. After much persuasion, they along with others, agreed to go. As they approached the other shore, the Indians came out of hiding and fired upon them. Thomas is supposed to have been instantly killed. William was badly wounded, but with the assistance of his companions, turned the boat amid a fusillade from the enemy and finally reached their own shore again. William, though suffering from his mortal wound, tried to return to Fort Donally, Greenbrier county, but got only as far as present day Fayette county. There he succumbed to his wounds and was buried at the foot of a beech tree at Stretcher’s Neck. The tree on which his name was cared stood until 1870 when the C&O Railroad was building Stretcher'’ Neck Tunnel. The tree was cut down and the grave lost sight of by his relatives.

The Simon Girty in this tale was the notorious “white Indian” and renegade, a traitor to his own people. He had been a sergeant in the British Army at Fort Pitt and for some reason deserted. His infamy has come down in history; I first made his acquaintance in the novels of Zane Grey, bequeathed to me by grandma Ann Scott. Zane Grey’s own ancestors were instrumental in building Wheeling, Ohio and saw many encounters with hostile Indians.

John, fourth son of William and Jane, married Jennie Johnson of Monroe county, West Virginia and drowned in Jackson River. His land, as already mentioned, lay on the Falling Spring Run in present day Alleghany county, next to his brothers Moses and Archibald.

Archibald was the posthumous child’s name and he was born on August 29, 1778. He got a grant of land on August 8, 1799 of 400 acres adjacent John Mann on the south side of Jackson river, in Bath county. He married another daughter of Robert Armstrong and was shot to death by his father-in-law in a tavern which he frequented. Robert apparently objected to Archibald’s ill treatment of his daughter. He was found innocent of murder by a jury. When Thomas and William Mann were killed in 1794 a lawsuit brought against them by Jemima Poo of Bath county for assault was dropped, due to the death of the defendants. Perhaps some of these sons of William were not very well behaved towards women.

As for the three daughters of William and Jane Hamilton Mann, they all married McClintic brothers. Jane married Robert and settled on Culbertson’s Creek in Greenbrier county; Alice married William and Sarah Mann married Alexander McClintic and lived on Jackson River. Alice’s husband William died in 1786 of wounds received in the Revolutionary War and her second husband was William Hunter Cavendish.

Thomas Mann, the fourth and youngest son of John the emigrant, was a minor when his father died in 1751. He became the ward of John Graham. The Augusta county Will Book I says that on the 18th day of (month unknown) 1752 John Graham’s bond as guardian (appointed) to Thomas Mann, orphan of John Mann, with surety Adam Dickenson. The continual involvement of the Dickensons, particularly of Adam, in the affairs of the Manns may simply reflect the fact that the Manns and Carpenters, among others, served in Captain Dickenson’s company of rangers during the French and Indian Wars in the 1750’s and 1760’s. On the other hand, it also lends some credence to the claim on the World Family Tree CD that John Mann’s first wife was Abigail Dickenson. Thomas is found on the 1771 Botetourt county list of tithables with only himself as a tithable male, but is absent from the 1772 list due to his death.

  1. 1.0 1.1 Public Member Trees: (Note: not considered a reliable primary source).