User talk:Obstinatesnooper

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Hello [16 November 2009]

Hello Cousin,

Good Morning. Welcome to WeRelate. It looks like you are busy doing your GEDCOM editing for your soon to be uploaded GEDCOM. How is it going? Hopefully it is going well. If you need any help please send me a message and I will try to help. Bye for now, Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:12, 16 November 2009 (EST)


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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 June 2010]

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 June 2010]

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Gedcom file [27 June 2010]

Hi, I have reviewed your gedcom file. You have a lot of nice stuff. But there are also a lot of warnings that haven't been handled. We cannot accept a file with duplicates and date warnings that indicate families may be incorrect. I am returning the file to user review status so you can work on it. You might find it easier to work on your personal file and then submit smaller gedcoms that are easier to manage. Thanks. --Judy (jlanoux) 09:20, 27 June 2010 (EDT) (WeRelate volunteer)


You will notice that I marked the "Exclude" box for all the duplicates. They will not be included. I did this before your message. I will go back and review the rest of the warnings, but I went through every single possible family match, with my program open to determine if I though it was a good match or not. I will resubmit it after another review.--Obstinatesnooper 09:25, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


Also, if I don't know the gender, I'm not going to guess. And when the program sees and "about", "circa", "after", "before" or "between" it doesn't recognize that they are guidelines for finding a real date, so it may seem as if the births are less than 9 months apart, or a death of a mother occurred before the birth of a child. No reason to scrap four days of work.--Obstinatesnooper 10:36, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


Also, you might want to take into consideration the way that the wiki interprets some programs' method (I believe this is mentioned in a help file that it might occur...) - that an Alternate Death will be recorded as other, making the wiki believe that some event occurs after death.--Obstinatesnooper 10:38, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

I understand all of your points. Thanks for taking a second look. No need to scrap you work. I'll get it imported for you now. --Judy (jlanoux) 13:03, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


Thanks. Sorry if that sounded a bit rude. I'm usually: snap first, stick foot in mouth, erase/delete/apologize.--Obstinatesnooper 13:07, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


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Rev Joseph Hull [27 June 2010]

I was wondering why you added children from Rev. Hull's first marriage to the family page for his second marriage. Children born in 1620's are added to a page where the marriage occurred 1633, creating many duplicate pages? --Jrich 18:02, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


I wasn't aware he had a second marriage, and it didn't connect when I did my upload.--Obstinatesnooper 18:29, 27 June 2010 (EDT)


Jeremiah Raner [20 July 2010]

Hello,

I noticed your recent talk addition. I was wondering do you want to add a page for Jeremiah and his other sister we have confirmed as his sibling? That way at least the three confirmed children will be listed as children of Hannah (VanGilder) Raner. You could then add a link to your other webpage that is not on WeRelate that you have for Jeremiah Raner. I am up for suggestions, comments, etc. Hope all is well. Debbie Freeman --DFree 11:37, 17 July 2010 (EDT)


Sure. I created a user page for research on the Winne and Raner families: [Research on Raner and Winnie families]. I wanted to create a shared research page, but they replaced those types of pages with something else. If we could figure out how to create one of those pages again, we could create that kind of a page for the (Raner - Vangilder) family research.--Obstinatesnooper 23:45, 18 July 2010 (EDT)


Hello,

How does this idea sound to you? I will create a "Raner Surname" page. We then can add a subsection called the "Joshua Raner and Hannah Vangilder family research". I will also create a "Vangilder Surname" page too. It will then link to the family page and probably their person pages as well. Also I will tidy up my Raner and Vangilder GEDCOM's and upload them in the next week. Suggestions comments, Thanks, Debbie Freeman --DFree 16:14, 19 July 2010 (EDT)


Joshua_Raner_and_Hannah_Vangilder_Family_Research --DFree 17:50, 20 July 2010 (EDT)


sweet!--Obstinatesnooper 21:48, 20 July 2010 (EDT)


Recent Changes to Robert Seeley [2 August 2010]

I notice that you made some 'corrections' to the record of Robert Seeley. I should have cited my sources when I made my changes, but I plan on loading a GEDCOM later this year and that would have supplied the sources.

It would appear that the changes you made are not based on the latest research - see the information I found in Great Migration Begins, below.

Great Migration Begins says about Robert Seeley (p. 1647ff):

'BIRTH: Baptized St. Johns, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, 4 July 1602, son of William and Grace (Prett) Seeley [Seeley Anc 6]. (Alan Phipps demonstrated that an earlier claim for the baptism of the immigrant, in another parish in the same county, was a misreading of an entry for a person of another surname [NEHGR 116:160, 164; Seeley Anc 1-2].)'

I assume the argument by Alan Phipps is in the Seeley Ancestry (which I have not reviewed myself), as the NEHGR article has (I assume from my reading of GMB) the incorrect information.

Great Migration Begins also says:

'DEATH: By 17 October 1668 (when his widow applied for administration on his estate). (Fanjoy and Ward state that "Robert Seeley died intestate Oct[ober] 1667, and in Oct[ober] 1667, the General Court of Connecticutt abated the widow's vote [sic] `for last yeare and this yeare'" [Seeley Anc 24]; this error derives from a misreading and misapplication of a record of 18 October 1677 in which the Court granted "the widow of Captain Seely about thirty-three shillings due from her for her country rate last year, and her rate this year," an entry pertaining to the widow of Nathaniel Seeley, who had been killed during King Philip's War [CCCR 2:327].)'

Please review the above information, and if you find it satisfactory, please change the informtion on Robert Seeley's page accordingly. Or keep the discussion going if you have other information. Thanks.--DataAnalyst 11:40, 2 August 2010 (EDT)


Notes re-added to Richard Odell [2 August 2010]

I reviewed the notes you put back in for Richard Odell, and there was a reason I dropped them when I did the merge.

First note:

'He was married to Elizabeth PEIRCE on 15 Sep 1565 in Bedfordshire, England. The American Genealogist, 14:224 says he married (2) Anne (or Agnes) Rogers in 1580/81 and has Richard baptised in 1581, which, if correct, could well make him a son of Ann Rogers Odell. Other children of William and Ann (Rogers) Odell were Thomas (1583), William (1585), Ann (1587), Dorothy (1589), Susan (1592), Margaret (1595), and Mary (1598).'

The first sentence matches info from the TAG article, although the wording is a bit confusing, as the Richard baptized in 1581 is the son of this Richard. The second sentence mentions William and Ann (Rogers) Odell. The TAG article indicates that it was Richard who married Agnes/Ann Rogers, and that these children are the children of Richard (c. 1540-1611). I removed the note partly because I thought it was misleading based on the TAG article (and partly because I planned to load the children of this marriage later this year - guess I shouldn't have removed all the notes before I did so.) Do you have more recent information that indicates Agnes/Ann Rogers married a William Odell? I know the TAG article is a bit old (1937).

Second note:

'Richard ODELL was born in 1540 in Bedfordshire, England. He died on 31 Mar 1611 in Bedfordshire, England. Parents: Richard ODELL Jr. and Agnes ROGERS.'

I removed this note because the first part is already in his facts (although it was actually his burial that was 31 Mar 1611), and the second part is incorrect - he married Agnes and was not her child. I wonder if the notes were confused somehow with his son Richard baptized in 1581.

Please review this information, and if you agree, change the notes. If not, let me know what info you have. Thanks.--DataAnalyst 12:03, 2 August 2010 (EDT)


GEDCOM Export Ready [26 July 2011]

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Adding links [30 July 2011]

Hi! I've noticed you've been adding the category to the pages of Civil War veterans. Thanks! That's a big help! When you add links to other WeRelate pages, grab the Page title, not the URL. (The page title appears at the top of the page, underneath the links for Home, Search, Add, etc. Here's the Help page that shows how to make all kinds of different links and how to format them. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! -- Amy (Ajcrow) 07:36, 30 July 2011 (EDT)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [30 July 2011]

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [30 July 2011]

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WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded ABSM.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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ABSM.GED Imported Successfully [30 July 2011]

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Transcript Help Page [18 September 2011]

What a page - I guess you had something to say! I added a couple of minor things, hope you think they fit with your content. --jrm03063 18:11, 18 September 2011 (EDT)


Source vs. MySource and Transcripts [18 September 2011]

There's another item that you may or may not have caught on to. The WeRelate community chose to create essentially three (3) different destinations for transcripts (I am only a reporter here - I offer no defense). These are:

  • Transcript - Corresponds to a single Source page. There can be multiple pages of transcription that are associated with a given source, but a transcript page will be associated with one - and only one - source.
  • WeRelate/MySource "Transcripts" - When the transcript content is not a source unto itself, and is related to only a small number of individuals, it will be a WeRelate/MySource. The transcription is performed on the MySource page without using a secondary Transcript page. A will or probate document from a published source would be created on this sort of page. Likewise content from a family bible, where the bible is not in the possession of the user doing the transcription (for example: Joseph S Tuttle Family Bible).
  • User/MySource Transcripts - When the transcript material is actually in the possession of "User" (for example: Will of Helen Marion Dennett).

You can chew on this to see if it suggests anything to you regarding the help page content...

Best Regards.... --jrm03063 18:30, 18 September 2011 (EDT)


Duplicate families [3 December 2011]

Hi Obstinatesnooper,

When you have a moment, please take a look at your Duplicates List by going to My Relate>Show Duplicates. It’s a good idea to check this list on a regular basis. There are a few families there that are potential matches. We have an ongoing site-wide project to merge duplicates, but it is always better if somebody familiar with the families can make the merge. Here is our help page on merging. If you have any questions, just let me know. Thanks! --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:56, 3 December 2011 (EST)


Hello! [15 December 2011]

I would love to talk with you, as you have many people on your pages in my line. My father is Jerry Winnie. His father Carnell Winnie b 1917. Carnell's father, John Franklin Winnie b 1888. John's father, John M. Winne (Winnie) b 1851 as so on down the line. I would love to compare notes and or photos with you!

Teresa Winnie-Faestel ourkeytojoy@aol.com--TFaestel 15:33, 15 December 2011 (EST)


Census Form [2 March 2012]

Hi,

Newbie here. I entered a few people and included 1850 Census info. At the bottom of 1850 U.S. Census Population Schedule, it mentions a template. It looked really, really nifty, so I used it. It looks like I'm about the only user who has used it. Is there a reason I shouldn't have used it? It's just kind of scary using something no one else is using, especially being new here and all. Is there a chance the template might change, affecting all the pages I use it on? Do other people use this differently? Should I have asked this to Support instead of you?

Thanks for the really nifty template--LeeHollenbeck 22:21, 1 March 2012 (EST)


GEDCOM Export Ready [15 April 2012]

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [1 July 2012]

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--WeRelate agent 12:21, 1 July 2012 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [1 July 2012]

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Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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--WeRelate agent 12:29, 1 July 2012 (EDT)

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Transcript Category? [29 November 2012]

Greetings! Nice Doggie btw... your genealogical assistant?

I see you're adding a category for transcripts - which seems like a good idea - but I'ld like to know specifically what you've got in mind. I want to put it in the right place(s) on various other transcripts.

In general, I presume you're trying to get a unique list of transcripts. Since you can have a transcript that takes many pages in the "Transcript" space (I don't think you want 2000+) pages for Savage. We can also have transcripts that live on MySource pages too. Is this about right?

Thanks!! --jrm03063 11:43, 27 November 2012 (EST)

Sure. Maybe a note on the Savage main page to not add individual pages to the category.--Obstinatesnooper 12:13, 27 November 2012 (EST)
I've sniffed around and added a few of my other efforts. I don't think it's a bad set of examples really. --jrm03063 12:44, 29 November 2012 (EST)

Brick wall suggestion [9 January 2013]

Thank you very much for searching genealogybank.com and posting this item listing heirs of Ruth Green. I don't have access to this database. Ruth was a sister to Andrew Hathaway Mott Sr.'s mother; her first husband was Andrew Hathaway and hence we have Andrew Hathaway Mott, Sr. & Jr. This news item lists more family than I have been in contact with so again thank you very much.--Susan Irish 23:32, 8 January 2013 (EST)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [3 February 2013]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded stny.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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--WeRelate agent 12:40, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [3 February 2013]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded stny.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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--WeRelate agent 12:47, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Brick Walls [3 February 2013]

Thanks so much for updating the Brick Walls page! I would love to have your continued help! -- Jdfoote1 14:11, 3 February 2013 (EST)


stny.ged Imported Successfully [3 February 2013]

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--WeRelate agent 14:22, 3 February 2013 (EST)

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Hello [19 August 2013]

Hello, We share some of the same people in our trees. I just want to let you know what I was doing, since you will getting alerts on changes. When import my gedcom it all my sources in the Note section. I am moving to the Source Section. Sorry you will be getting alerts. I hope not to drive you to nuts!--Myfamilytree 15:03, 19 August 2013 (EDT)