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Welcome [15 July 2019]

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Thank you so much, Gaye--I appreciate your finds and letting me know about them. Theodore Havert's first wife was Catherine Joly, Marie's older sister. Our family tradition was that she died on board the ship in childbirth and the baby died very soon after, but I've been unable to find any record of her death. I did find the immigration records and Theodore Havert is listed as arriving on 7 Jun 1847 in NY on the Adonnis, the same boat as the Joly family, including Marie. Thanks for your help in filling in the missing Havert children. --Mary Jean--Jaynes931 17:23, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


Thank you for tidying up my person, Phereby Bishop. (http://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Person:Phereby_Bishop_%281%29&diff=0&oldid=4587102).--Maggie 04:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


Gayel, I have also seen this name, "Phereby", spelled "Fereby" or Pharaby or Feraby. I've done a little research just now on Lawson's Fork. I see that in another place, it is listed as Larsen's Fork. I see many references to "Lawson's Fork" in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Which, incidentally, is where the Bishop family came from, before they went even further south. If you put the words "Lawsons Fork" into Google, there are several hits and all the ones I saw were in South Carolina.

I need to do a little more research and see where these folks lived. Did they ever live in Alabama? I think the answer is "yes". Did they call a creek in Alabama after a fond memory of the one in South Carolina? Possibly.--Maggie 05:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. South Carolina was all I found, too. Good luck with your search. Gayel --GayelKnott 01:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much for correcting my info on Elijah Land and his wife. I agree that the Kentucky Marriage source must be a mistake, but I couldn't figure out how to take the source off. I know so little about what I'm doing, although I've been trying for a long time. I really appreciate the help you give me. Thank you for fixing my mistakes, --Mary Jean--Jaynes931 23:43, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


Hello Gayel, thanks for helping me out (again). Yes at one time I put Harriet or Andrew as a male female in error. Very difficult to fix once it's done. Babo--Babo 10:26, 7 September 2017 (UTC)


Thank you, Gayel, for helping to clean up the Janik side of my family tree! Your edits look great, and I truly appreciate your work as I begin my journey to trace my familial history! I do have a question about the village in Slovakia from where my mothers' relatives seem to have originated. One of the few tidbits of information that I got from my mother before she passed was that one of her sisters here in the USA was corresponding with relatives in Slovakia, but the town's name is Dlha nad Oravu. Records about some of my ancestors reflect this town. So, maybe the name was truncated to just "Dlha" (which I believe is a larger town)? -Dave Orzechowicz--oze 13:36, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


Gayle:

I am not sure what is going on here...BC Tanner is the husband of Ethel Ramsay, my mother's sister. She was not married to Ray O Tanner sr. Although, all these folk are buried in Pinecrest Cemetery, Mobile AL. I do not understand why BC and Ray are linking. I have no idea who Ray O Tanner was.--DML 19:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)


Ray O Tanner and BC Tanner are not the same person!--DML 19:21, 1 October 2018 (UTC)


Gayel,

Please contact me at jstevens@lisco.com. I would like to talk about the first Thomas Plummer of Maryland, his son Thomas and their wives, Elizabeth. Elizabeth Smith who married the first Thomas was his contemporary and the mother of his son Thomas. She was born about 1646 and died about 1707.

I have just started working on their records at WeRelate so I still have some work to do to get these relationships squared away.

Can we talk?

Jim Stevens--JimStevens3 02:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


My Dear Mr.GayelKnott Greetings

I am thankful to you for making relevent changes in my father's tribute posting. I have visited http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Seshendra_Sharma_%281%29 It is good . thank you .

I have posted one more family photo , in which my self my father and mother are visible. you may please add that photo also to this profile. Thanks / Regards[--Saatyaki 09:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


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Corrections & Redirect for Thomas & Prudence Stephens [23 March 2018]

Hi Gayel. Thanks for reminding me about the Unknown name rule as relates to Prudence. Also the corrections and redirect covering the Stephens family. Norman--Normiejac 15:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Janie. No problem. How you can possibly manage to keep track of all your Jacksons is beyond me. What you are doing is really worth while and impressive. All I did was merge some duplicates that the computer noticed. Gayel --GayelKnott 16:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

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The two wives problem [3 May 2018]

Hi Gayel Thanks for sorting this out. It was one too many bits of chaos in this contributor's collection.

Regards --Goldenoldie 18:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC) (Pat)

No problem. Lots of things I hesitate to tackle, for various reasons. Gayel --GayelKnott 03:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Merge error? [20 June 2018]

I assume the removal of the husband here was an inadvertent error since no sources or comments were posted, and restored him. If not, documentation is needed. --Jrich 20:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, yes, it was an error on my part. My apologies. --GayelKnott 21:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

You made a bunch of edits to mt tree [23 July 2018]

First, thank you. I am to new to this site to really do not comprehend what you have changed. The reason I am moving my tree,slowly, in clumps to WeRelate is because I hope to meet real serious people who know what they are doing.

When I first built my father’s line about 3 years ago I was in a hurry to find living men who might get Y DNA tested. I left out most Christopher daughters and who they Married. Now I am trying to get my tree perfected so I can upload gedcoms to WeRelate. I follow Christopher men and their descendants, but if Martha Christopher gets married to Frank Simmons, I do not put her descendants in my tree. I would never finish my line were I to add the daughter’s descendants. Nor do I document the parents of the men who the daughters marry.

If I live much longer and get my Christopher line done, I might start working on the families that the Christopher men and daughters married into. But I have about 2000 more Christopher men and daughters, and who they married .. still to go to perfect my tree on ancestry and move to WeRelate.--Chrstdvd 00:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Learning your way around WeRelate (or any new site), can be a bit confusing at first, that's for sure. The changes I made weren't really changes. You had two entries for the same family, and all I did was merge them into one entry. It didn't really change anything, though.
If you want to see what changes you -- or any one else -- has made to a page you are watching, you can use the menu in the upper left hand corner of the page. Click on "History" and it will show you the history of all the changes that have been made to that page. For Family:Sanford Christopher and Hannah Raben (1), for example, you will see that it says "(merged with Family:Sanford Christopher and Unknown (1) - review/undo)". If you then click on "Compare Selected Versions" it will show you what was changed -- which, as you said, is basically nothing. You did have a page for Sanford Christopher and Unknown, but there was nothing on it, so the merge didn't change anything.
The reason for all this is that, as you probably know, WeRelate is trying to create a single family tree, with no duplicate pages. When duplicate pages are created, usually by accident, then they can (and should) be merged. The computer goes through and looks for duplicate families and posts them to a page of possible duplicates. This is one of the things that volunteer administrators (including me) keep an eye on. The computer doesn't check for duplicate person pages, but you can check for those yourself. From the menus across the top of the page, under "My Relate", towards the bottom of the list is "Show Duplicates". If you click on that it will show any pages that the computer thinks might be duplicates.
If you want to know more about merging (or unmerging), you might have a look at Help:Merging pages.
Hope this helps. And I know that feeling of "If I live much longer", except I tend to say "I hope I live long enough"!

Recently at the death of my mother's single brother, one of my sisters said: "there is an age of dying which is a nice age for dying. Unfortunately none of any one's parents reaches that age."--woepwoep 08:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I can always use a smile to start the day. Gayel --GayelKnott 15:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Changes [25 July 2018]

Thanks for the changes to "Family:James Moffat and Jeanie Turner (1)" has been changed by GayelKnott at 08:01, 24 July 2018. Edit summary: remove child who is step-child, not bio child

regards Joe--Glasafor 08:28, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Gayel --GayelKnott 14:15, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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BC Tanner and Ray O Tanner [1 October 2018]

If you look at the monuments for BC sr and Ray O sr, you will see they were concurrently married to women named Ethel. It is not possible these are the same men. They may have been related, but I did not know any Tanners, other than Uncle BC, Aunt Ethel, and their children, BC jr and Shirley Ann. BC stands for Bergia Cowean. BC jr and Shirley Ann are also buried in Pinecrest Cemetery, Mobile AL. How do we stop the propagation of incorrect information?--DML 19:31, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, David. Thanks for the information you have provided. None of the pages you originally added for B C Tanner and Ethel had any real information, and no sources. If you do not want people changing the information you have provided, you really do need to add sources to show where you got that information and to show why you think it is right. Without that documentation, and with little else in the way of information, there are many people who will try to "fill in the blanks". As they do try to add missing information, and particularly as they try to find sources for the information, they will probably make changes. I've used the information you have just provided to hopefully make the page for Bergia a little more accurate, but it would really help if you could provide some more sources. Gayel --GayelKnott 20:28, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Changes without study [23 November 2018]

(Family:Richard Mann and Rebecca Unknown (1) renamed to Family:Richard Mann and Rebecca Short (1): make page title agree with name)

Despite a note posted on the page suggesting this is unlikely. The marriage of Richard Mann to Rebecca Short in 1637 is 9 years before their first known child, and the age of the woman in the marriage probably too old to have the last child in 1666. It was all on the page before you did the rename. --Jrich 19:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what happened with these pages. I added two templates, including a "Sources Needed" template, to a page that had no sources, having checked to see if there were any sources. In addition, in order to add the templates, I would have scrolled down over any sources that were present, and they weren't there. Whatever happened, I hope they have been straightened out. I can understand your being upset about what appear to be perfectly good pages having been messed up. --GayelKnott 02:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Ottenbach [27 March 2019]

Hi,

I am new here and not sure about how to proceed.

A large portion of the paternal line of my mother (Gut) come from Ottenbach and married people from there and surrounding towns.

In my research, I got a file of 3'500 plus list of residents over several centuries, with names, dates, parents and spouse.

Historical research showed that our family had acquaintances with Anabaptists. The US people with whom I share DNA are often connected with Amish or Mennonite communities.

May I ask you if you see a way to use it on this site ? Individual pages seems a bit over the top.

Best regards,

Jacques--Jpictet 21:04, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Jacques,
I'm not quite sure what it is you want to do. I'm assuming that you are talking about autosomal DNA matches, and as far as I know, those are best used in terms of individual matches. However, you might consider writing an article, perhaps about the migration of Swiss Mennonites to the American colonies. There are a wide variety Articles that have been written for WeRelate, one that I personally like is Dagloners/Dayworkers, if you are looking for examples.
As for adding DNA information, as I said, autosomal DNA is best used in terms of specific individuals, and that means adding information about living people (your DNA matches) to WeRelate. However, WeRelate does not allow adding information about living people, so it is a bit awkward. There are alternatives: WikiTree, which is also a wiki site, like WeRelate (but you can only add DNA information about yourself, not about others unless they have also added that information for themselves); and RootsFinder, which is not a wiki site, but does allow sharing if you wish.
That said, WeRelate has so many positive features (in my opinion), that it remains my preferred site for basic genealogical research.
Hope this helps, Gayel

Thank you for your quick answer.

My main concern is not DNA. I was trying to explain why I was considering adding information here about Europeans who had descendants who migrated.

I thank you for your various propositions. I will think about them.

Best regards,

Jacques--Jpictet 22:50, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay, sounds like an Article might work, and then just add a link to it for those person pages where it is relevant. If you do write an article, I'd be interested in knowing about it. Gayel --GayelKnott 23:07, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

If I write an article, I will show it to you beforehand for guidance.--Jpictet 23:09, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for the hard work.--Jpictet 21:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


Genealogical Proof Standard link is dead [10 April 2019]

Here is an archived version from 2013 → http://archive.is/cxyWU . --ceyockey 21:51, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. --GayelKnott 15:56, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Your note of 15 Aug 2019 [15 August 2019]

Thank you, Gayel. That's very kind of you.

But do let me know if you query something. For instance, I was just doing a whole lot of corrections on User:JustAlf pages with all his Society of Friends sources and my finger slipped from just plain "Liverpool, Lancashire, England" in the suggestions to a Catholic cemetery in the city. I fixed that one fast. /cheers, --Goldenoldie 15:40, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


Duplicate Parents [27 September 2019]

Gayel,

Thanks for reminding me that I have wanted to send you a message for some time regarding the changing of some pages. At the moment, I have forgotten what they were, but I'm sure you made some good changes. Hopefully, in time I will get back to those...

For now, I wanted to respond to your message regarding the "duplicate entries". There are several reasons for this happening. One I don't catch the error at the time, but only find it later. Another is that when I do catch the duplicates, and follow the directions on the left side of the page for mergers, I keep getting instructions to check (or uncheck) the box under the name on the page. When I respond to the site it never responds back! I then save it to "later" in my mind, and then forget about it! Even if it worked, the WeRelate merger feature seems to be much more complicated than my Legacy Program. I have also noticed that when others change my duplicated data, often the result is an error also. Unfortunately, again I intend to return to the page, or notify someone (like you) but then forget. I hope you have an answer for me?

Of course, I have found that many of my sources have different parents, and they supply me with erroneous data too! I don't always catch the discrepancies until later! Usually, I note discrepancies, and show both (or multiple) data.

Another separate problem I have been having is on the pages. Often after I click onto "SAVE", the page takes forever to be recorded. That might not be a function of WeRelate, as they didn't have computers when I was in college, and I'm not an "expert"!

--White Creek 16:01, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

(Jim Lower)


Trouble with website [16 October 2019]

Hi Gayel

About two hours ago I receiveed an error message when trying to save an edit to a Person page. I have emailed Dallan outside of werelate. Obviously we have gremlins. As I just said to my daughter: it's a good thing there are some good tv programs tonight.

/cheers Pat (Goldenoldie)--Goldenoldie 17:49, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Pat. This isn't the first time I've had problems. Wondering if the server needs upgrading or something. Unfortunately, understanding that kind of thing is way beyond me. Gayel. --GayelKnott 18:03, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Ancestry Public Tree as source [24 February 2020]

I see that you removed a source reference to Ancestry Public Tree. I realize that it is not considered a reliable source, but I cite it for 2 reasons:

  • I want people to know at least where I got the data - and then they can decide whether to search for a better source or accept it as is or remove the information. I have found that Ancestry Public Trees are not that horrid for recent data - although there are certainly exceptions. If I didn't use Ancestry Public Trees to find people's death dates, I would have to delete many more pages than I already do, because WeRelate would consider them living otherwise.
  • If the Ancestry Public Tree has decent sources itself, I include a link to it. I simply don't have time to cite all the sources the Public Trees cite, but if someone is interested, they could check them out and add them themselves. I realize this is far from perfect, because a lot of people don't subscribe to Ancestry, but if that is the case, they could ask me or someone else to look up the page and see what the sources are.

In the case of Vincent Nelson, the Ancestry Public Tree does in fact have a source for the death date, which I just added to his page (another Ancestry database, so I copied the relevant data). I see you also found a source and added it - the one I added has the exact date, so still worth having.

I apologize if seeing Ancestry Public Trees annoys you. It would me too, if I didn't find it the most effective way to find death dates for potentially living individuals. I wish I had time to cite all the relevant sources (and I do occasionally), but dealing with pages for living or potentially living persons is a decade-long project (at least) as it is.

Best wishes.--DataAnalyst 00:24, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I understand your use of Ancestry Trees, and normally I would find them mildly annoying -- the one copied in the tree you cited, however, is one that I really dislike (which you could not know), full of errors and "creativity". But it did push me to look for a few more sources. And it looks like she may have had another husband no one has found? At this point, my philosophy for some of these early pages is to let a younger generation solve the problems, but that would not work for what you are doing. Gayel --GayelKnott 00:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Oh, good - I'm glad I'm not overly annoying you in general. You're right - I did not know that was a particularly bad tree. And just so you know, in case you don't subscribe to Ancestry, they have changed their search recently so that they group together in the search results records they feel are for the same person. They don't merge them (thank goodness), but do present them together, giving the user a chance to see the variations between trees. If there are any, I look closer. Of course, since so many people copy from one tree to another there's no guarantee that the trees are independent of each other, but I find that a surprising number are, and I get a better picture of where to check their sources.--DataAnalyst 13:23, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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John Kreinhagen [31 July 2020]

Gayle,

Thanks for adding Donna's Find-a-grave data to John Kreinhagen's page. FYI: Donna is a serious researcher, and I know her well; but she made a little mistake here. The White Creek Methodist Church Cemetery is nowhere near COLUMBUS. It is in Jackson Township, a couple of townships southwest of Columbus, and about 3 miles east of Waymansville, Indiana. I have been there often. In fact, most burials there are related to me - and to Donna. Since the cemetery is out in the country, and there are already two cemeteries in Waymansville, I put the location in the correct geographical location - Jackson Township!

--White Creek 03:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


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GEDCOM Export Ready [4 September 2020]


Gayle,

Do you have any idea what this "GEDCOM Export Ready" is about?

--White Creek 03:46, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jim,
I downloaded a GedCom for one of my trees. The message came to my Talk page, so you don't have to worry about it, it doesn't have any effect on your trees or pages.
Gayel --GayelKnott 14:46, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

your suggestion on remarriage as an event [20 November 2020]

What a good idea! So often we miss the entry for the second marriage when it's listed after the children of the first marriage on the list on the right. /cheers, --Goldenoldie 15:21, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Hadn't thought of that, but you're right. Gayel ----

Edits to John Meador, Mary Brazile (Breazeale), Reason Meador [18 January 2021]

Hi Gayel...

I see that you made several changes to my entries for this family. I haven't been to this website in ages...in fact, I thought it wasn't being used anymore since I haven't ever seen any activity for the families I have here. I'm not sure I ever really understood how to use this site, and so now, after such a long time, I'm in the dark about exactly what you did. Not sure why these people got "redirected" and what that means. But, looks like everything you have is correct, so I'm pleased that something is happening here.

Nedra Fortune (nm-llanera)--Nm-llanera 19:04, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Nedra, First, the information you posted has been extremely helpful. I'm trying to bring a little more certainty to the early Meadors from Anson County, North Carolina, so finding well documented research is a real joy.
As for how to find out what was done with the information you posted, if you go to the menu on the left side of the page and click on History, you can track any changes that were made to a page. As far as the Redirect, it was because I changed a bunch of names from Meadors to Meador, just to be more consistent with the actual records.
Yes, WeRelate remains small -- probably one of the reasons I like it. Haveing learned to use it "back when", I also really like the flexibility of the Person pages, although I also post on WikiTree to reach a bigger community.
Anyway, thanks again for the work you did on Reson and his father John. Gayel --GayelKnott 23:15, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Events before birth [26 June 2021]

Hi Gayel

I wrote a report to find pages with events before birth - mostly as the result of typos. For about 30 of these pages, you were the last contributor. I assumed some might be pages that others created that you have updated, but the two I looked at were both created by you, so maybe several of them are. I fixed one page but will leave the rest to you if you choose to fix them. Here is the list. Thanks--DataAnalyst 01:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Person:James Calhoon (4)
Person:Ora Sandefur (1)
Person:Joseph Bennett (54)
Person:Seike Roelfs (1)
Person:Anna Reusswig (20)
Person:Elizabeth Unknown (2978)
Person:Emil Wickstrom (1)
Person:Sofia Tattko (3)
Person:Jennette Tichenor (1)
Person:John Bliss (38)
Person:William Jeggles (17)
Person:Abigail Leach (1)
Person:Rachel Johnston (9)
Person:William Reynolds (17)
Person:Christiana Tench (1)
Person:Thomas Richardson (10)
Person:Willem van der Wal (6)
Person:Jacob van Dijk (21)
Person:Robert McKim (7)
Person:Edward Nashe (1)
Person:Johannes Storm (2)
Person:John Waters (21)
Person:George Schrindel (2)
Person:Sjoukje Dobma (1)
Person:Florence Gilling (1)
Person:William Ingold (3)
Person:Nancy Wharton (2)
Person:Howard Bliss (2)
Person:Mary Dickinson (66)
Person:Archibald Bliss (4)

I'll have a look at them. I do have a problem with typos. --GayelKnott 03:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

All done but two. One of those is in 1500s England, not a time and place where I can start rooting around problem solving. I added both a "Questionable Information" and a "Sources Needed" template to say we noticed the problem. The other one made sense in the context of the actual profile/page. Some of the Dutch pages could use sources (I suspect that's true of a lot of Dutch pages), but I already have two other major projects on my plate and really can't take on another one right now. Gayel --GayelKnott 21:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I really appreciate you doing as much as you did.--DataAnalyst 22:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Source:Kentucky, United States. Marriages, 1785-1979 [29 November 2021]

Hello. I see that you created this source some five years ago, in Jun 2016. I've recently merged this source into Source:Kentucky, United States. Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979, and I've revised the pages which linked to the original source so that they now point at the merged source. Regards --ceyockey 18:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

I've seen that you are tackling some of the source pages, bringing them up to date. This is a very much needed task, and your efforts are much appreciated. Thanks for doing this, and thanks, also, for the contact to explain your changes.

Gayel --GayelKnott 17:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


Rothesay [22 March 2022]

Hi Gayel I was checking the "What Links Here" list for Milton Abbas and found Person:James George (35). Curiosity made me click to his parents where I found references to Rothesay, a place I know well.

My great-great grandfather, Person:John Palmer (128) (1811-1881), probably signed at least one birth registration for members of your family born on Bute. He was burgh registrar from 1855 until his death (2 months after the census), as well as being the schoolmaster at the burgh school. I also noticed the house name and road named Craigmore, but it's too late at night for me to pull down an atlas and check out precisely where it is although I am pretty sure it is on the way to Mount Stuart and Kingarth. A cousin of mine (another descendant of John Palmer) is currently living at 14 Craignessan which is sure to be in the same area. I spent quite a few holidays in Rothesay doing the local family history, but haven't been there in ten years or more. My memory is still pretty good for 82, but the lay of the lands stays with me more than the name of every street in Rothesay.

Hope you are keeping well

All the best, Pat Jeffs--Goldenoldie 23:22, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Pat. My apologies for taking so long to get back to you. I'm currently trying to work with DNA to solve a major brick wall, and focusing on other sites, as well as trying to get back to writing.

I'd love to claim a connection with you. Unfortunately, I think my only connection to Person:James George (35) had to do with merging a duplicate, so no personal connection. But I can relate to being 82 -- and wondering how we got to be this old! Memory can be a bit like Swiss Cheese, full of holes, but I find that if you give them time the ones that wondered away somewhere usually will come back (so far).

In the meantime, I have to say I really admire the work you are doing. As much as anything, it is probably what will keep WeRelate alive and used for a long time, as it is an invaluable resource not found anywhere else.

Do take care, Gayel


Ambrose Meador [5 February 2023]

Hello Dear Distant Cousin Meador, Gayle

Someone made me the manager of Ambrose Meador over Geni the other day after seeing he was my grandfather, such in the case as you are. We have written back and forth over the years on GENI, Familysearch, and Wiki, and now here, heh. So, you doubt the info on Grandfather's parents due to the lack of hard info. I know your point of view of Mary Awbrey. Basically, hehe, you do believe Ambrose is still our blood ancestor? We are not from the other Ambrose that was running around with the same name at the same period of time.

Here is my issue, you suggested he had possibly gone to Holland before coming to America. I doubt that Uber was around back then, it took money to be shipped from England to Holland and then to America. He bought you the suggested 500 acres and then 1,000 acres of land. Dear Cousin Gayel, I can't afford a granny Flat in my backyard, more less 1.500 acres of land and two ship voyages. Where is all this money coming from? He had all this on him after leaving England? What was he a rich farmer? Why is it suggested his wife came along with him from either Holland or England? Once here we have not yet, ID his wife. Every platform has no name of his wife. I thought the manifest of every ship had the names of each person traveling from England to America. Oddly, we can't ID, grandma, we can't tell what city he left before coming to America. What kind of ship did he travel on? A Pirate Ship? No records at all of his travels still exist? I know it's 200 years later but my GGG grandfather left Prussia in the mid-1800 and we have the name of the ship, and who was on it. Grandmother and the kids before entering England and then to America. The bitter arguments of the Meadors baffle me at times. We still cannot find the city he came from, nor anything of his background. Yet he has either money or credit for taking so much land. In fact, the wills state each son got 360 acres once Thomas Meador dies. In a short time, so much land is acquired by the Meadors. Either they had a deal Indian Deal to sell out their lands to Whites, or, he was a special magical farmer. hehe. The Meadors by the time of the G Grandson with all those kids gave tons of lands to each other. The family had thousands of acres by that time. One of the greatest achievements of a farming family, or some big fake beliefs is in the making. I have never seen "The Wills" of the Meadors but only on the platforms. But, add up all those acres were passed down to the kids. I have seen an old map of the Meadors, compared to other landowners. They had different spots in the territory, I gather the sons went out and got more added lands but were not connected or, just another "Meador" unrelated surname that lived in the same area.

I'm not arguing, complaining, or having any other emotion towards you, I come to you because I value your opinions of the "Meadors". Dear Cousin Gayel. Help me to understand who the "heck" is truly is "Ambrose Meador"? Do we really know if he is even from "England"? Many suggest "Avon", England. Was it because of the other Meador at that same time? Lastly, hehe, Is Ambrose with the son called "Thomas", is still our grandfather you believe? Or, are we even on the right path? As a little child, my Grandmother used to recite to me all the Meadors within our family tree long before "Roots" with Alex Haley was a mini-series on TV. I was so jealous because I knew our ancestor's horrible stories, heh. In a court of law, as a prosecutor would demand, "was Ambrose Meador, is or ever was a grandfather of yours", heh. Was he Dear Cousin, do you still believe this guy is still our blood relative? I hope you doing well, I hope you are still alive, hehe. HAPPY NEW YEAR, Cousin Gayel.

Your Crazy Cousin of California, (because Goolsberry Meador Brought us here from Missouri). Your Cousin of Geni's, Alvin James Meredith-Premus--AlvinMeredith-Premus-Meador 18:13, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


Per George Henry Knott [5 February 2023]

My father I never grew up with, Lives only a few miles away from Walla Walla, Washington. How odd. You are related to me on my mother's side, that is where the Meadors is located on that side of the family. I had even worked in Walla Walla at one time. While moving to Washington so I could get to know my father more.--AlvinMeredith-Premus-Meador 18:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


Still wiling to handle Duplicates? [20 March 2023]

Hi, Gayel

The Duplicate Families Report is running again, and I think has been for a while. Are you still willing to tackle the duplicates? Do you want help with the new backlog of more than 80 possible duplicates?--DataAnalyst 20:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)