User talk:Chrisv5656

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [14 February 2015]

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Now that you have uploaded Veenstra - Craig Henry (Chris)_2015-02-14.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

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--WeRelate agent 20:57, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [14 February 2015]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded Veenstra - Craig Henry (Chris)_2015-02-14.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 21:52, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Veenstra - Craig Henry (Chris)_2015-02-14.ged Imported Successfully [15 February 2015]

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--WeRelate agent 14:37, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Editing - Sources [22 February 2015]

Dear Mr Jansen, Thank you for your recent additions, changes and clarifications that you made of my recent gedcom upload. I appreciate you taking the time to update my contribution. This is the first time that I have uploaded a gedcom. I am using ancestry.com to do much of my research. I am mostly attempting to fact check what was already listed on Geneologie Online, where I was able to connect my Great Grandfather to an existing line of Veenstra's. It has been an exciting adventure! I have been able to confirm most everything up until I get to Freerk Gerkes (abt 1739-1783) and his father, Gerke Jans (abt 1700-1768). I have not been able to find the actual pages in a record where it shows their birth, marriage, death or their link to the next generation. I am very grateful for the additional information that your have been able to provide.

Sincerely, Chris

Hello Chris,

I had already quite a lot on this family Veenstra on my local database. My reason to work so intensively with your additions was the sourcing. We are not very convinced of the correctness of the data one can find on ancestry.com or Genealogieonline. So we are supporting using the real sources. For Friesland you can use www.allefriezen.nl for the period starting 1811 and tresoar.nl for earlier time. For Groningen you better use allegroningers.nl.

The Veenstra-family was doopsgezind = baptists, records are not so much available. In case you are the grandson of Henry Veenstra then we have a common ancestor via Wondaal, Piers, Holst,and further via mother, father, mother up to Bontko Udens. If so we are 11th cousins once removed!--Klaas 07:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Klaas Thank you for the additional information, and yes, I am the grandson of Henry Veenstra. I have a very basic question that I would like to ask. I am having a hard time understanding how the Sourcing works. Let me give a very specific example, and I am hoping that you can walk me through it.

Let's take Himme Sierds Veenstra, born 1844

http://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Person:Himme_Veenstra_%281%29&diff=0&oldid=21612500

You added a source for his birth date (S1). If I go to the References section and go to #1, it tells me that your source is on page 88 of the 1844 birth records in Achtkarspelen, Friesland, Netherlands. It then links me to your source for this data. When I go to this page (this is where I get confused) it tells me that the Source is Burgerlijke Stand (Births), it is located in 4 places and it is Government / Church Records. Then it tells me that the information can be located in 4 Repositories such as allefriezen, but when I link to allefriezen I am directed to a general search page. There are also many scans located on your source page, but they all appear to be just a picture of a number. I can search on allefriezen and find a Himme Veenstra, but I'm not positive that it is the same source due to the fact that I had to search for it.

How do I get to the actual source? How do get to where I can either see the source data or actually view the page in the book where it shows the record? I apologize for such a basic question, but I have spent a lot of time attempting to understand this.

Thank You, Chris--Chrisv5656 16:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not Klaas,but it's a very good question. As an introduction, the Dutch civil registry ("Burgerlijke Stand") system which was adopted in 1811 has the feature of being implemented in the same manner over all of the Netherlands and treating births, marriages, and deaths as similarly as possible. The citations you are asking about refer to the actual source record books, and are either references to the individual entry ("Aktenummer") or to a specific page ("Blad" or "Pagina"). All of the repositories use the same system, so even if they do not provide access to the images themselves, the number they quote will have the same definition. If you would like to search by the number itself (note that a complete spec is kind of record, gemeente, year, and number), you can use the scans as stored in FamilySearch, most easily indexed at ZoekAkten. For example, at ZoekAkten, under 'FR' you can find Achtkarspelen Geboorten 1843-1844 and page thru the scans until you find page 88 for 1844, then turn the page because the entry you want is on the backside of the page. This is the link for the page you will have found. The entry you are looking for is on the left-hand side; the right-hand side is the front of page 89. --pkeegstra 20:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I do agree, but I tend to stick to the 'official' sourcing and leave to the interested reading/user/copier to check the original/scan. As one is referring to a book you won't get right away the scan of the page! Further to the links you gave directing the ancestry.com-page - these are only available if you have an account. So these links are useful for a certain group but not working in general. But I think it is very good that your data are sourced anyway.--Klaas 09:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

GEDCOM Export Ready [22 February 2015]

The GEDCOM for tree Default is ready to download. Click here.

GEDCOM Export Ready [22 February 2015]

The GEDCOM for tree Veenstra, Henry & Dekruyter (de Kruijter), Gerrit is ready to download. Click here.

GEDCOM Export Ready [22 August 2021]

The GEDCOM for tree Veenstra, Henry & Dekruyter (de Kruijter), Gerrit is ready to download. Click here.

GEDCOM Export Ready [22 August 2021]

The GEDCOM for tree Veenstra, Henry & Dekruyter (de Kruijter), Gerrit is ready to download. Click here.

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [1 September 2021]

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--WeRelate agent 23:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)