Family:John Ramsey and Margaret Davis (1)

Notes on John Ramsey and Margaret Davis from Delijim@aol.com:

One of John Ramsey's daughers married a Thomas Mark, according to his will.

From Rootsweb.com posts:

From: "LK Ramsey" <lkramsey@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [RAMSEY] John Ramsey/Margaret Crockett Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:39:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <BAY119-F1195DA0A3FB5E79AD81388A93C0@phx.gbl>

Junior,

Back on May 4, 2007 I posted to the list the following research data under the subject title of "John Ramsey of Calf Pasture, Augusta County, VA." This data included the documentation and citation for John Ramsey's will. If you receive this let me know. (Lee Ramsey)

John Ramsey of the 'Calf Pasture', Augusta County, VA, and later Four Mile Creek, Mecklenburg County, NC, married in Augusta County, VA to Margaret Crockett, the widow of Robert Crockett of the 'Great Calf Pasture' and whose will was proved 19 Feb 1746, Augusta County, VA. Robert Crockett left the following sons: Archibald, Samuel, James, Alexander and Andrew Crockett, with their widow mother, Margaret, marring John Ramsey before 28 Nov 1751. On 21 May 1755, John Ramsey became the guardian of Samuel, James, Alexander, and Andrew, replacing John Gray as their guardian. Archibald Crockett's guardians had been Robert Bratton and James McCorkle.

John and Margaret Ramsey removed to Mecklenburg County, NC before 10 Oct 1774, which date they and Andrew Crockett of Mecklenburg County, NC conveyed to James Crockett of Augusta County, VA a tract on Calf pasture patented to Margaret Crockett and Andrew Crockett 5 Sept 1749. John Ramsey took up 312 acres in Mecklenburg County, NC on Four Mile Creek, and, along with Archibald Crockett, Andrew Rea and Aaron Howie, became an elder of the New Providence Presbyterian Church organized there near the forks of Four Mile Creek in 1765, about twelve miles south of 'Charlotte Town.'

John Ramsey died between 4 Aug 1775 and Jan, 1776. His will was probated during the Mecklenburg County, NC January term of court (Will R.B. F, pp. 113-115). In his will he bequeathed to his sons, James and William Ramsey, his tract of 312 acres of land and improvements; to his son, John Ramsey, the tract of 150 acres on the divided ridge of the waters McAlpine & Four Mile Creek. John Ramsey's senior son, James Ramsey, was the executor of his father's will during the Jan 1776 term of court, with James and his brother William receiving one half interest in their father's 312 acres on Four Mile Creek; and their brother John receiving the 150 acres on the dividing ridge of the waters of McAlpine and Four Mile Creek. Due to the premature death of the brother William Ramsey in 1777, William's half interest in his father's land fell to the elder brother, James Ramsey. In John Ramsey's will he also bequeathed to his son James 'the horse and mare that goes in his name & two milk cows & two calves; to son William the Wilson horse & young bay mare & two milk cows; to daughter Esther the tan mare & her saddle & two milk cows; to daughter Rachel the bay filly & a good new side saddle & two cows and calves; to son-in-law Thomas Mark the sum of five pounds prov' money to be equally divided among his five children; to daughters Esther & Rachel all his pewter to be divided equally; to his five children, James, William, Esther, Rachel & John, a good feather bed & bed clothes equivalent; the remainder of his estate after debts satisfied to son James to be equally divided between himself & the four other children; to the two oldest sons the plow & tacklings; all other tools & plantation implements to be used by the whole family while they last; his wagon to be sold & the price to go with the personal estate.

SOURCES: (1) Lyman Chalkley, "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia (Extracts from the Original Court Records of Augusta County, 1754-1800", Vol. III; (2) William H. Foote, "Sketches of North Carolina", New York, 1846; (3) Worth S. Ray, "The Lost Tribes of North Carolina", Austin, Texas, 1947; (4) Robert H. Montgomery, F.A.S.G., of Cambridge, MA, "Ramsey Families Of Augusta and Rockbridge Counties, VA", from "The New England Historical And Genealogical Register", 1957. Vol. CXI; (5) The Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr., "Mecklenburg County, North Carolina Deed Abstracts 1763-1779", Southern Historical Press, 1979, p. 84; (6) (also see original deed records for Mecklenburg County, NC; (7) Mecklenburg County, NC Will Record Book F, pp. 113-115.

Lee Ramsey Dallas, GA

I'm looking for any information on John Ramsey who died in Augusta County, Virginia Bet. 15/Feb - 15/Apr/1783. His wife Mary d. Bet. 30/Dec/1785 - 17/Oct/1786 at which time she was living in Parish of St. Anne's,Albemarle County,VA They had a son, James who predeceased them. Also sons: William, Alexander, Andrew,George Daniel & John. Don't know about daughters or other sons, there could be more. Son Andrew d. Bet. 01/Sep/1783 - 15/Jun/1784. Interested in any help. Thanks.

From Chalkley's Augusta County, VA records (NOTE: there were apparently TWO John Ramsey's in Augusta County, VA that have sometimes been confused with each other. Not all of these may relate to this John Ramsey:

Most other records of Robert Davis in Augusta are in connection with

the settlement of the estate of Robert Crockett. A few years after death of Robert Crockett. His widow Margaret married John Ramsey. The following records are to be found:

    After Robert Davis's statement that he was about to leave the colony

in 1753, he was relieved and John Ramsey took over the duties. Futher data pertaining to the Crocketts will be taken up in connection with Margaret as a possible daughter of Robert and Anne Pickens Davis.

Mecklenburg County, N.C. records show that JOHN RAMSEY, who had married Margaret Crockett, widow of Robert, moved to Mecklenburg later, and he was one of the first Elders of Providence Presbyterian Church, also his stepson Archibald Crockett. However John Ramsey remained in Augusta until around 1763.

Augusta Co. VA. Marriage Records: A few very early ones are still extant

                                 which give name of the groom only. They
                                 show:
                                 1749-50 - JOHN RAMSEY (We know she was
                                 Margaret (Robert Davis?) Crockett.)

Records of John Ramsey in Augusta County, VA (Chalkley's):

1742.-Vol.II, p. 508, MUSTERS OF AUGUTA CO. supposed to hve been made in 1742. GABRIEL PICKENS in company of Captain John Smith. John Ramsey and Robert Poag in same compny.

August 20, 1746 (73) William Thompson to be overseer from Court Ho. to Tinkling Spring, already viewed, with these tithables John Lynn and his three sons, John Henderson, John Ramsey, John Preston, Wm. Palmer, David Stuart, James Coile, Joseph McClelhill, Alexr. Thompson, John Mitchell, John Hutchison, Andrew Russell, Geo. Caldwell and his two sons.

FEBRUARY 20, 1746/7 (167) John Ramsey qualified Constable in Cap. Thompson's Co.

MAY 21, 1747

(198) Saml. Delap appd. Constable, vice Nath. McClure; John Spear, Constable, vice Jno. Trimble; James Galespy, Constable, vice Wm. Wright; Ro. Ramsey, Constable, vice Thos Black; Alexr. McCroskie, Constable, vice Charles Hays; John Erwin, Constable, vice James Hogshead; James Hogart and Wallace Ashton, Constables, vice James Maies; Thos. Cohoon and David Miller, Constables, on Roan Oke; Archd. Hamilton and David Stevenson, Constables, vice Danl. Deniston; James Slone, Constable, vice James Hony; Geo. Draper, Peter Rentfro and James Cohoon, Constables, vice Humb. Lyon; John Ramsey, Constable, vice Wm. Guy; James Beard and John Maggot, Constables, vice Adam Miller; Andrew Scot, Constable, vice John Ramsey; John Campbell, Constable, vice Ro. Givin; John Leath, Constable, vice Elisha Job; Valentine Sevear, Constable, vice Wm. Carroll; John States, Constable, vice James Robinson; Ro. Montgomerie and John McClintin, Constables, vice Wm. Scot.

August 3, 1747, Accounts of debts paid by Margaret

                Crockett, part of estate of Robert Crockett.

Vol. III, p. 7 - Aug. 19, 1747, Robert Crocketts inventory, was made by

                Henry Gay, John Gay and Wm. Elliott.

NOVEMBER, 28, 1751 (211) Archibald Crockett chose Robert Bratton and James McCorkle guardians.

 (211) Above guardians complain that John Ramsey, who married Margaret, relict of Robert Crockett, father of Archibald above, are wasting the estate.

MAY 21, 1752 (254) Rob. Bratton, guardian of Archibald Crockett, against Rob. Davis and Margaret Ramsey, for detaining part of orphan's estate--order to summon.

NOVEMBER 15, 1752

(361) Samuel Givins, Robert Patrick, to view, and Ro. Patrick, Wm. Hines, John Hawes, Joseph Bell, Wm. Bell, Wm. Finla, Archd. Stewart, Richd. Pilson, Wm. Johnston, Ro. Wilson, John Hind, Geo. Skilleron, Hugh Ross, Andr. Baskin, John Givins, Saml. Henderson, John Ramsey, Alexr. Henderson, Saml. Henderson, Nathl. Woodroof, David Logan and George Duglass, clear and keep in repair, a road from James Givin's Mill to the road over Wood's New Gap at foot of mountain.

NOVEMBER 18, 1752

(378) John Ramsey and Margaret, his wife, late Margaret Crockett. 

MAY, 1753 Ramsey vs. Elliott and Smith.--John Ramsey married Margaret Crockett.

May 19, 1753 - Robert Davis, and Executor of Robert

               Crockett, is about to leave the Colony and begs to be
               released. John Ramsey who married Robert Crockett's widow
               is summoned.

MAY, 1755 Ramsey vs. Jamesons and Gay.--John Ramsey, assignee of Charles Donnelly, who was assignee of John Handly, complains of John Jameson and Robert Gay, and Sarah, his wife, late Sarah Jameson. Bond dated 1754. Signed, Sarah Jameson.

AUGUST 18, 1756

(436) John Ramsey vs. Charles Stringham } Attacht. It appearing to the Court that deft. had not absconded, but was in his Majesty's service--dismissed\

17th February, 1758. Colonel James Patton's estate; appraised by Thomas Stewart, John Ramsey, Edward Hall.

MARCH, 1758 (C). John Ramsey vs. Robert Gay.--Defendant gone out of County

AUGUST 19, 1758

(198) John Ramsey intermarried with Margaret Crockett, mother of Alexr. and John Crockett. Caleb Harmon complains that he was bound by his guardian, Walter Davis, to Robert Reed, contrary to law; indenture set aside and Caleb chose John Bowyer his guardian. John Fitzwater, a witness from Culpeper.

AUGUST, 1759 McAnore vs. Vestry.--Signature: John Ramsey

NOVEMBER 18, 1762

(366) John Ramsey vs. John Hamilton } Sheriff attached a wagon.

JUNE 19, 1764

(496) John Ramsey chosen guardian by Mary McDonald, aged 16; John McDonald, aged 14, and the Court appoints him guardian for Francis, Hugh, Rebecca, William, Elizabeth and Saml. McDonald, all orphans of John McDonald.

Page 315.--15th May, 1767. John Ramsey and Mary ( ) to John Gilmer, Jr., £145 paid to Andrew Evans, 220 acres, part of 400 acres which did belong to John Ramsey upon main branch of James River, corner Carmickel's land. Delivered: Robert Thompson, 24th May, 1784.

NOVEMBER 17, 1767

(341) Grand jurors: Nathanl. Evans, Joseph Raburn, Saml. McPheeters, Francis Erwin, Robt. Thompson, Henry Stone, James McCain, John Ramsey, Archibald Fisher, John White, Henry Campbell, Saml. Briggs, Richd. Renalds, Hugh Hays, Joseph Malcolm, David Laird, John Francis, John Black, James Leatherdale, John McClure, Hugh Donaho

31st March, 1768. James Shaw to John Ramsey, £45, 240 acres on Great Calfpasture, conveyed to Loftus Pullen by James Patton and Jno. Lewis, 17th July, 1745. and to James Shaw by Loftus, 19th August, 1760; corner land formerly in possession of John Miller, now in possession of Jno. Ramsey; corner Robert Bratton. Teste: James Crockett, John Stewart. Delivered: John Ramsey, August, 1770.

10th May, 1768. John Ramsey and Mary ( ) to John White, £100, 180 acres on James River; corner John Gilmore.

MARCH 19, 1772 (335) Margaret and James Ramsey to be bound out.

MARCH 16, 1773 (11) John Ramsey bound to peace for beating Elizabeth Fleming, wife of William Fleming. She has been laid up for 13 weeks and her life is still despaired of

MARCH 15, 1774

(307) John Ramsey, vice John Gillespy--road overseer

AUGUST, 1774. Ramsey vs. McClure.--Chancery writ, 25th May, 1773. In 1769, John Ramsey, Jr. and Hugh McClure bought land in Beverly Manor and heard that James Hunter of King George had bought the remainder of the Manor not sold and had employed James Kennerley to look out for purchasers. James Ramsey and John Ramsey were brothers and sons of John Ramsey. James Black and John Black were brothers.

Oct 10, 1774 - JOHN RAMSEY AND MARGARET, and ANDREW CROCKETT of

                  Mecklenburg County, N.C. convey by deed to JAMES CROCKETT
                  of Augusta Co. VA a tract on Calfpasture, known by name
                  of early entry patented to MARGARET and ANDREW CROCKETT
                  Sept. 5, 1749.

SEPTEMBER 21, 1779 (138) Wm. Gillespy, vice John Ramsey, Jr., appointed road overseer

NOVEMBER 16, 1779 (143) Grand Jury presentments for retailing liquors without license, viz: Col. Sampson Mathews, Daniel Kidd, Wm. Thomas, David Griner, Patrick McDavid, George Smith, Valentine Cloninger, Thomas Colony, Edward Brookbank, Thomas Price, John Alexander, John Anderson, John Blair, William Burk, John Burk, James Hill, Robert Reed, Alex. Kilpatrick, Euphemia Hughes, Anthony Mustae, Jacob Grass, Elizabeth Hartgrove, Arthur Conoly, William Blair, John Hind, William Kyle, Abel Griffith, Enos Jones, Valentine Shirley, Peter Caphart, Andrew Scott, James Langsby, Robert Gregg, Thomas Poage, Jane Wallis, John McClenachan, John Black, Mary Tees, Thomas Smith, David Bell, Henry Swink, John Ramsey and William Foster.

21st December, 1787. William Finley's will--To son, William, land he now lives on; to son, Robert, home place, whereon testator and Robert now live. adjoining John Ramsey, deceased, and son Robert's children; son John has already received land. Executors, 3 sonsJohn, William. Robert. Teste: William Wallace, Andrew Ramsey, Sarah Finley. Proved, 15th September, 1799. by Ramsey and Wallace.

Page 279.---22d September, 1791. Alexander, Andrew, William, and George Ramsey, Andrew Steele to John Ramsey.

    Page 281.--77 acres and 98 acres patented to John Ramsey, deceased,

and become property of John Ramsey, son to James Ramsey, heir-at-law to said deceased and conveyed to Andrew Steele and Andrew Ramsey by said heir-at-law. Teste: John, James and Andey Ramsey.