User talk:Rtengel

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [26 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_1.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 13:30, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_1.GED Imported Successfully [26 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

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For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 15:25, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [27 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_3.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 17:44, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_3.GED Imported Successfully [29 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 09:53, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [29 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_4.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 13:38, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_4.GED Imported Successfully [29 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 19:11, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [29 May 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_5.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 19:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

R_Engelhardt-1962_Feb_2011_5.GED Imported Successfully [30 May 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

• launch the Family Tree Explorer to navigate your tree
• view your network -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out to which other WeRelate users you are related.
• view related pages not in your tree -- If you matched families in your GEDCOM to existing families, find out which people you are now related to that you can add to your tree (takes awhile to display for large trees).
• view a searchable list of the pages in your tree -- The searchable list will be available about an hour after your tree has been imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 12:13, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Images of book [18 September 2011]

The images of the book you are leaving are not all that useful. They are so small that they have to be enlarged to read, and when you do that you can't see the Person page anymore to compare what the book says with what the page says. Second, since the book is available freely on books.google.com, it would be more useful, and probably more efficient of WeRelate's disk space, to provide a link there (for example, see Person:Robert Allyn (1)), instead of providing the image of one page when the whole book can be easily accessed by such a link. Third, the book is not that useful because it merely asserts stuff without proof, i.e., it does not say how it knows what it "knows". This type of source is of questionable value to start with, and carries little authority compared to primary records or the work of genealogists of more reknown. --Jrich 12:14, 18 September 2011 (EDT)

If the images are small, then that is due to WeRelate shrinking them. The originals are perfectly readable. Thank you for letting me know, however, that my efforts are not considered productive for others. There is no point in my putting in the time and effort if it is not considered useful.--Rtengel 12:21, 18 September 2011 (EDT)

It could be valuable if the images were unique. This is often done for photos, Bible pages, marriage certificates, even widely quoted documents if they are handwritten and there is an issue interpreting the handwriting. However, probably better to link to various archive sites like books.google.com or archive.org for books. Providing a transcript of what is on the image is useful, too, as then it is computer searchable, plus you can embed links to all the related pages, as is done in Transcript:Tuttle, Charles W. Tuttle Family of New Hampshire for an article found here. --Jrich 13:39, 18 September 2011 (EDT)

Very well, thanks for the suggestions.--Rtengel 13:47, 18 September 2011 (EDT)

Image Licensing [23 September 2011]

Hello, I am a volunteer admin and it's my job to help people learn the system. You asked for help licensing your images. I can't license your images but I can give your guidance. There are numerous licensing options, but most images fall into one of these categories:

• Original published in US before 1923
• Low resolution copy of an historical photograph. (When you reduce the image before upload, the resolution is reduced.)
• Snippet of historical document
• Work of US government--Public domain
• If you took the picture, select the CC-BY-SA
• If you know the photographer, get written permission.

Hope this helps. Please be aware that images left in the "Help needed" category for longer than two weeks will be deleted. If you have any more question please leave me a message. :)--sq 13:02, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

Geertje Denyce [20 February 2012]

I think there really are two of them, but perhaps they were already not well sorted out.

The 1622 date of birth does not fit in with the family of Teunis Denyse and Phoebe Felix Seals, since they were themselves born in 1615 and 1618.

But the 1642 date of birth does not fit in with the family of Albert Albertse Terhune and Geertje Denyce since their marriage was 1847 and their first child was born 1848.

Unfortunately, I don't have any source handy to point you to for resolving this. There is a book for Albert Albertse Terhune 1651 (not sure if that's the same as Albert Albertse Terhune 1651), two other Terhune books in the WeRelate sources, and the Voorhees book mentions including Terhune lines, but I don't have either book handy.

I've put her onto my ToDo list.

--Pkeegstra 16:16, 19 February 2012 (EST)

Thanks for any help in correcting this, if there is an error. My notes on this person cite "From NY genealogical and biographical Vol. 11 (pp. 159 - 167)." and Last name from: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vreelandproject/ged2html/g0000392.html#I05737. I cannot find an online copy of the former, and the latter doesn't seem to list any sources. I already believed the alt birth date was problematic, based on the birth dates of her children that I had.--Rtengel 18:05, 19 February 2012 (EST)

See Source:New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (New York Genealogical and Biographical Society) for links to online copies of most volumes 1 to 53 (most recent that is in public domain). --Jrich 20:20, 19 February 2012 (EST)

I'd have to say that the source you found provides no support for identifying the wife of Albert Terhune 1618 as Geertje Denyce. Unless you feel strongly otherwise or come up with other sources, I'd like to create a Geertje Unknown born about 1622, died 1693 for Albert's wife. BTW, that is a nice source for descendants of Albert; I added the whole family for Albert 1618 and sourced the marriages for his son Jan. --Pkeegstra 08:39, 20 February 2012 (EST)

On the one hand, I have found many family genealogy pages that list Albert's wife as Geertje Denyce, while on the other, I haven't found any thus far that list a source for that connection other than citing some other individual's information. If you think it is better to make a separate Geertje Unknown page for the wife of Albert, I am fine with that, barring some new evidence in identifying her further.--Rtengel 08:57, 20 February 2012 (EST)