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__________________________ [edit] Source[edit] NotesID: I1015 Name: John CAMPBELL Sex: M Birth: 19 NOV 1662 Note: The following was found on the internet at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0024/g0000092.html From Diarmid Campbell in Argyll in Scotland, msg to CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: Duncan Campbell & Mary McCoy Line. "The family tree in the 18th century document found in recent years among the papers from an estate in Virginia, and outlined in the second of Dr. Ruby Campbell's articles on the subject in the Clan Campbell Society (North America) quarterly Journals (Vol. 28 No.2 Spring 2001 pp. 46-48 & Vol. 28 No. 4 Autumn 2001 pp. 47-49), is the earliest known record of this family to date, and while a secondary source rather than primary, it does offer some possible clarification of relationships. It clarifies that there was a
John's sister Jean/Jane married James Hamilton (who appears to me was living in 1753 and 1762 ...(son of Arthur Hamilton and a Miss Boyne) ...
I presume this Arthur was General Arthur Campbell who was kidnapped by a local tribe as a 16 year old boy and survived and escaped and later spent the last part of his life in Kentucky. Arthur and Margaret had a son William Campbell." Father: John Dougal CAMPBELL b: 1635 in Inverary, Scotland Mother: Mary RICH Marriage 1 Mary MCCOY b: 1653 Children Robert CAMPBELL b: 1672 John CAMPBELL b: 10 NOV 1674 in Near Letterkenny, Ireland
" ... The Campbell family from which I am descended were originally from Inverary in the Highlands of Scotland - came to Ireland in the latter part of the reign of Queen Elizabeth & thence to America. John Campbell [husband of Grace Hay] my great grandfather and the great grandfather of Gen'l William Campbell of the Revolution came from Ireland with a family of ten or twelve children, leaving behind him only one son, and settled near Lancaster in Pennsylvania in the year 1726. His eldest son Patrick was the grandfather of Gen'l William Campbell. His youngest son David [White David] was the father of Col Arthur Campbell and my grandfather. So that Gen'l Campbell and myself were second cousins. The family remained in Pennsylvania but a few years and then removed to the frontiers of Virginia, in that part which afterwards formed the county of Augusta. Here they lived many years. John Campbell (my father) the eldest son of David and Col Arthur Campbell the second son were born, raised and educated in this county. Gen'l William Campbell was also born, raised and educated here. ..." Notes on John Campbell, grandson of Duncan Campbell and Mary Ramsey. By Philip D. Campbell I am using "of Drumboden" not as a title but to keep track where this John is from. DO NOT USE THIS AS A FAMILY TITLE! John Campbell, born in either 1621 or 1636 in Scotland? He may be burried in England where he died in 1706 according to Margaret Pilcher's book or he is burried in Virginia: "Margaret Pilcher insists: "John Campbell died in England, having gone there from Ireland with Lord Boyne. While there he became Steward to Lady Buckingham." He migrated to Ireland with his wife where he had his sons if not allready in Scotland or was he born in Ireland and his Ancestors were from Scotland and came to Ireland? One of his sons, John Campbell (Jr), married Grace Hay. John Jr is burried in Dauphine County, Pennsylvania where he died in 1734- I saw his grave. Now, John I who married Mary McCoy had a fair amount of children who grew up in Donegal? County, Ireland. A big migration of Campbells came to Pennsylvania including John Jr and his brothers, Dougal,Robert, Hugh. I believe one, if not, a few stayed in Ireland. There are some Campbells in Donegal Ireland John Jr did not go to Virginia. His brothers and some of his offspring did though, that will acount for the fair amount of Campbells in Virginia, North Carolina etc.
"The family tree in the 18th century document found in recent years among the papers from an estate in Virginia, and outlined in the second of Dr. Ruby Campbell's articles on the subject in the Clan Campbell Society (North America) quarterly Journals (Vol. 28 No.2 Spring 2001 pp. 46-48 & Vol. 28 No. 4 Autumn 2001 pp. 47-49), is the earliest known record of this family to date, and while a secondary source rather than primary, it does offer some possible clarification of relationships. It clarifies that there was a Father: John Dougal CAMPBELL b: 1635 in Inverary, Scotland Mother: Mary RICH Marriage 1 Mary MCCOY b: 1653 Children Robert CAMPBELL b: 1672 John CAMPBELL b: 10 NOV 1674 in Near Letterkenny, Ireland [edit] View 2This note identifies Lord Ormellie (Duncan Cambell) as thechild of JOhn Campbell 5th Baronet of Glenurchy aka First Earl of Breadalbane. It cites two sources, one being "History of the Campbells"...no author cited. If its Alastair Campbells History of the Campbells, it conflicts with what's said to be taken from that work on Wikipedia. The citation Jonston's Heraldry (1921?) seems to be the primary basis for this.
In the "Heraldry of the Campbells" on p.57 it states that "he was weak mentally" and "is said to have married Margaret Campbell of Lawers and to have left 2 sons.". From CF Logan
Logan goes on to note: However in Vol.1 of "James Campbell and his Descendants" by Katherine Campbell Harper, beginning on p.228 thru p.235 you will find a discussion of claims of descent from Duncan Campbell, Lord Ormelie. The records are still extant and for 182 years it was believed in the Breadalbane family that Duncan died unmarried. On 23 Apr 1686 Lord Ormelie signs declaration that he renounces his claim to the Breadalbane Peerage and that he does not intend to marry. On the 19th of October 1696 there is a Bond of Interdiction not to sell his lands without his father's consent. On 13 Dec 1704 Lord Ormelie signs over all rights to his father and male relatives. At the close of 1704 Lord Ormelie was neither married nor in a state to marry. A court case in 1872 brought out this data and his supposed grandson was b. in 1710. This makes it rather farfetched especially since documents regarding payment for Lord Ormelie's maintenance and his funeral bill are extant. The judgment of the court was that claims of descent from Lord Ormelie d. 1727, were "Spurious" and ruled out all legitimate or illegitimate descents for Duncan, Lord Ormelie. I have collected numerous Campbell data. For instance there was a Duncan Campbell of the House of Breadalbane who d.1612 and had married a Mary McCoy. Of course dates too early to be Lord Ormelie...
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