User talk:DFree

Archived topics: 2009, 2010


Welcome [6 June 2009]

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Thanks for welcoming me... [18 January 2011]

--Gnu 23:23, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Edward James Chatterton [26 January 2011]

ha this is whitetinydog, I have the world war I draft Registration card for him. He registered in Red Oak Iowa on 09 12 1918. He was 39 years old. he had brown hair & eyes. his draft # was 1643221. He was married to Mattie at the time. he was self employed Painter at the time. They lived in Villisca, Montgomery, Iowa. I got Family Tree Maker 2011 for Christmas it also has a 3 mo of with it. I have not figured out how to install the family tree maker program yet. I had a good holiday, hope you did the same, hope to hear from you soon! whitetinydog--Whitetinydog 16:50, 25 January 2011 (EST)

Hello Debra,

Yes we had a relaxing and enjoyable holiday. I had some quality time on the beta site for family search website and found some possible Chatterton ancestors as well. It is way too early a time period and not as well sourced as I would like. It is also too early to post on WeRelate so within the week I will e-mail you the information. It is just the beginning of the research so could be wrong too. By the end of the week I will post what you mentioned on his Person Page about Edward James Chatterton if he is deceased as well as his spouse is deceased. Good luck on installing the Family Tree Maker 2011 program. I will e-mail you by this time next week. Cousin, Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:49, 25 January 2011 (EST)

new family member [26 January 2011]

Oh I found some new ancestors. From the Chatterton side!!!!!!--Whitetinydog 16:53, 25 January 2011 (EST)

Hello Debra,

Sounds great!! I can't wait to learn more about them. Can you e-mail me the information? I am going to e-mail you my latest research (possibly wrong) on the Chatterton ancestors I located on the beta site. It is way too early a time period and not as well researched yet too. Too early to post on WeRelate. Cousin, Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:56, 25 January 2011 (EST)

welcome [1 February 2011]

thanks for the welcome--currently trying to get a feel for the program--Dewey65--Dewey65 21:08, 31 January 2011 (EST)

Claybaugh's Clinton Co. History [8 February 2011]

Hi Debbie -

Glad to see you watching.

As I am a wiki newbie, I would like to know if I should add my copy of the above. I have a Higginson reprint of this 1913 book, which is probably identical to the version[1] already input. I have scanned numerous pages and transcriptions have been on the web for decades. I haven't yet found the preferred method of adding those. Should I just put everything in this edit box?

I have a million questions, but will close by thanking you and the Fort Wayne Library, and everyone else involved.

All the best, Bill--Robinsonbill 14:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Hi Bill, I'm curious, is this the same version that is available at If it is, that can be added to the source page under Repositories. --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:03, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Jennifer - That appears to be Volume 2 in PDF, EPUB + versions. I have a hard-copy of all 982 pages. I think I got it from the Higginson Book Co.[2]. They are in Salem, Mass. One of many online versions is by Sue Beach, 1996. [3] This is the 1886 version. [4] I have never been clear on the difference between the 1886 and 1913 editions.--Robinsonbill 15:59, 7 February 2011 (EST)


WeRelate is not set up for adding large pdf files (such as a scan of a 982 page book would be). Smaller pdf files can be added by going to Add>Image. My first suggestion would be to have you elaborate on the Source:Claybaugh, Joseph. History of Clinton County, Indiana, the versions that are available online (I added in a few to begin). The 1886 version has its own source page: Source:History of Clinton County, Indiana.

Secondly, I believe that allows people to upload their own documents (that are not under copyright). More information can be found here. --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:36, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Thank you very much!

At some point in the future, would it be appropriate to ask for comments from anyone on my user page:

Robinsonbill/Fort Coleraine aka Dunlaps Station?

I know that one can nominate finished pages to be featured, but I have not yet found a way to do something like this for a sandbox, other than perhaps the automatic notes to those following the appropriate surnames or places.

This is my last question today, I promise.--Robinsonbill 18:04, 7 February 2011 (EST)

It sounds like you are looking for feedback from users on your page. You could try posting a note at the WeRelate talk:Watercooler. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:46, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Hello Bill & Jennifer,

It sounds like Jennifer has been able to help you I am grateful to say. Feedback is one of the strengths of WeRelate. Talk Pages are quite helpful. As you might have noticed I add a note indicating that I am open to other Users opinions on my User Page. If I have a detailed question I post a message on the Watercooler as Jennifer mentioned. Have Fun & I hope WeRelate is helpful to you on your research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 23:09, 7 February 2011 (EST)

adding William Corbridge [8 February 2011]

I keep adding William corbridge, but he never gets put on the search results. What am i doing wrong?--Corb-170 23:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)

--- Hello Corb-170, You are not doing anything wrong. It takes a little time for edits or additions to appear in the search engine. The best way to confirm or edit a new person such as Person:William Corbridge (1) Person:William Corbridge (2) and Person:William Corbridge (3) is to go to your User Page. Then click on your Contributions on the right side. I looked and it seems you have three different William Corbridges created. I would suggest that you wait till tomorrow and merge the three People once you confirm that it is the same person by "show duplicates" under the "My Relate" at the top of the page. I hope this makes sense. Good Luck Debbie Freeman --DFree 00:15, 8 February 2011 (EST)

Elkins Family [19 February 2011]

How are you related to William Elkins And Elizabeth Dickey?--Elkinss 12:08, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Hello Elkinss, Sorry I am not related to this family. If I am listed on one of these pages I tried to help on minor editing, or really basic sourcing. Did you want to send this message to User:Delijim instead? Thank you for the message. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:44, 19 February 2011 (EST)

UK [28 March 2011]


Thanks for the welcome message. I wondered how many UK people you have involved in this, or is it predominantly for USA?

Many thanks, Freya--Freyasday 04:39, 28 March 2011 (EDT)

Hello & Welcome Freya, WeRelate is available to ALL. I could not tell you how many UK WeRelate Users we have. We do not have an easy way to tell where the physical location of the WeRelate Users are located. We do have many non US WeRelate Users. Since WeRelate is a genealogy wiki the more the WeRelate Users are involved the better it is for all. I do live in the US, but I like many in the US have English ancestors. My English ancestors were from Sussex and Kent in England. Could I ask what your concerns are? Or what you are thinking what WeRelate might be able to help you with? Looking forward to hearing back from you. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:26, 28 March 2011 (EDT)

PHOTOS [3 April 2011]

Unknown Photo Help [3 April 2011]


Hello, If you have not already looked at the WeRelate pages - Portal:Image or Help:Images Tutorial or Help:Images you might wanted to look at these pages for some basic information. You can add images, and then add a web page with links to these photos after you figure out a system that will work for you inside WeRelate. As a suggestion maybe you have these images from an old photo album from your Aunt Susan. You could upload the images to WeRelate, then create a web page named User Anankin Aunt Susan's photos . In the description add what little you know about the history of these images, and the person or family connected to this person. Then link the images to that page. Or something like that. I think this should work. Hope this helps. Debbie Freeman --DFree 23:11, 2 April 2011 (EDT)

Lots of new users today [11 April 2011]

Hi Debbie, I believe WeRelate was featured in an article this weekend, so we have quite a few new users. Let me know if you would like me to lend a hand welcoming today. --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:44, 11 April 2011 (EDT) --- Replied on User JBS66 - Jennifer's page --DFree 14:39, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

First Contribution [17 March 2012]

I just updated an existing page for my uncle Malcolm Summach. If you have any comments about where I have gone astray, please let me know.

Rick Moffat--RGMoffat 18:24, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

Hello User RGMoffat, Welcome Rick to WeRelate. Glad to see that you are creating and editing WeRelate pages. I looked at the Person Page for your uncle. It looks pretty good to me, it has sources (THANK YOU), a death death and location. I do though have one big CONCERN. WeRelate is available to all on the Internet so I am concerned about your Uncle's obit mentioning living people's names (including maiden names) and their locations. Would you mind editing out the living people's name's and leave the obit more basic. Our concern is/would be Identity theft. Thank You Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:49, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

Scan's of Obit's - Living people [19 March 2012]

Would it be best then, to not upload actual obits, if living people are listed in them? With people living a lot longer these days, many obits will not be on the site. I have one person, who has been gone well over 50 years, yet still has a sister living. Suggestions?--MLorentz 11:58, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

Hello MLorentz, My concern would be the privacy of living people and following the privacy laws. If the living person (daughter Jane Doe, city, as example) is listed at the bottom of the obit. What I would suggest is you could edit the obit's scan (copy/scan the obit, crop the living person's information out, name the new file) to not show the living people. So you could list the source of the obit, upload the scan of the obit would list the deceased names, date of death, place of death, place of burial, etc but not show the living person's information. Other admins are of course more than welcome to add their two cents in. I would appreciate their input. Hope this helps. Thanks for using WeRelate. Debbie Freeman --DFree 17:20, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

Hi Debbie,Thanks so much. That does help a lot. What do you suggest in regards to those still living on the 1930 Census, and the soon to be out 1940 Census records? I believe in respecting the privacy of the living, but this feels like a gray area, as they are also public records. Any help here is appreciated.--MLorentz 01:01, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

Explanation of terms [25 April 2011]

Thank you for your kind welcome and the opportunity to ask a question.

On the Contributions page of MyRelate, what is the meaning of the bold black terms "m," "N," and "top"? Also, what's the distinction between the blue type and the red type?

For brand newbies to Wikistuff (like me), it might be helpful if many of the pages had some kind of legend at the bottom that explained stuff. Or a mouseover help box. I searched the help and support pages for 3 hours and watched some of the video tutorials (more to go) trying to figure out these notations, and have had no luck yet.

I think I am thrilled with what We Relate can do. But it is not the easiest site to navigate or learn. I tried to ask this question on a Support page using the GetSatisfaction option, and it wanted me to sign in with Facebook (or some other way) when I was already signed in!!--LulaBelle 00:51, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Hello User LulaBelle, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I saw your message too late last night to respond in my time zone. Thank you for trying WeRelate we know there is a learning curve to Wiki's and Werelate. We are trying a new support option with GetSatisfaction. I will try to answer your questions. I will also ask the other admins to help too just in case I missed something, or are incorrect. WeRelate as you probably figure out has many, many pages. So I am guessing on some of these questions since you did not mention where or what you were trying to do and trying to figure out what you wanted to do.


N- the big N probably indicates a Note. Usually a user has added a little more detail to a source, etc. As an example you might have a ancestor in the 1850 census that is in a unrelated household, or the head of the household is a son in law or something like that. So you might mention that your ancestor is living as a laborer, or farm hand for John Doe, or John Doe is the son in law of your ancestor, etc.

m - A small m might mean that you did an edit to an existing page, it indicates a minor edit to a already existing page, such as a new source, or adding a note, etc.

Top - Might mean the beginning of the webpage i.e UP as opposed to DOWN or bottom of the page?

Blue/Red - Usually indicates a hyperlink status. A Red one usually indicates there is no link to an existing page. An example might be a location that is a US township or a Post Office location where your ancestor lived on the US census. Most of those locations do not have a webpage because they are too small to create so they are Red. a Blue one means that you can click on it at it takes you to the other page, such as a county page, or another person page such as that ancestors parents.

You might also want to look at the WeRelate pages "Help:Person Page Tutorial"" and the "Watercooler" might help you also. I hope this response helps you, it is possible that other admins might add more details too. If you have other questions please ask them since only by the Users giving us feedback can we make WeRelate more user friendly. Thanks, Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:26, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Hi Debbie and LulaBelle, the website for the MediaWiki software says that m stands for a minor edit, N means it is a newly created page, top means it is the latest version of the article. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:49, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Thanks very much to both of you! It helps to know what you're looking at. I'm working my way through all the help information, and I'm beginning to see how it's organized, sort of, but I find it rather daunting. I truly was delighted to find WeRelate; it is just the sort of website I was looking for to help me in my family history research and hopefully collaboration. Not being so young any more, I myself have a longer learning curve than I used to, and I have not previously been involved with ANY wiki more than just looking for info, so that part is challenging. But I AM LOVING IT!! And it is very nice to find actual helpful people when I'm just getting started. So thanks again.--LulaBelle 13:08, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Change spelling of user name [14 May 2011]

My user name should have been entered as Tieit and not as Teit. Need help in finding area to make the change.--Teit 19:46, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

Sources and responses to messages [22 June 2011]

Hello Debbie Freeman,

I left the following message a few days ago for a Watcher who probably was the one who posted the information that I referenced.

Hello Dalemower, I write as a descendant of Martha Webster, dtr of Daniel Webster and Elizabeth Boyd. Our family has additional information. I am most interested in the data you have posted, and naturally wonder about the sources for your information. Can you help? Awaiting your reply. Dmpr3--dmpr3 21:30, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

Is it likely that Dalemower will respond, and will he or she do it through email to me, or through a note left at the site where I found my message to her or him posted? Is the poster supposed to get email saying her or she should look at the site and answer my question?

The concept of WeRelate does seem good. I have a hard time understanding how any information can be posted that does not reveal sources.

Thank you. George Mitchell at geo3 at copper dot net .--dmpr3 21:04, 27 May 2011 (EDT)


Hello George Mitchell, Thank You for giving WeRelate a try. I do hope that WeRelate User Dalemower will respond to your message by the options available that you mentioned it is their choice which option to choose though. If you clicked on the word "Watch" on the left of these pages, you will be notified if any WeRelate User changes that page. Do not be surprised if this WeRelate User does not respond. Sometimes people find WeRelate a bit of a learning curve. I clicked on the word "Contributions" on their User Page. It showed that the last time WeRelate User Dalemower had contributed was on 10 May 2009. I also took a quick look at the people and family pages you mentioned. It is unfortunately a much too common problem for WeRelate and among other websites. On those pages to the left of the page you can click on the word "history" that will tell you the history of that page. When I did that it said that these pages were created because of a GEDCOM upload. So I would guess that when WeRelate User Dalemower created her/his GEDCOM for upload they blocked their sources or did not have sources in the GEDCOM. The good news is that you or other WeRelate Users can add sources to these pages by hand by clicking on the word "edit" and add the sources or when you add a GEDCOM with sources. Hope this message helps you understand the WeRelate system a little better. Debbie Freeman --DFree 22:29, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

Hello George, I had a little time tonight and looked around on the Internet for sources for these people I have located some sources and information on the new FamilySearch databases, etc. I do not know if you related to the Boyd side or the Webster side? Or if you already have this information on these ancestors. You can reply if you would like. Thanks, Debbie Freeman --DFree 23:51, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

Hello Debbie, I was not on top of looking for your response, and only today discovered it. I do appreciate your looking for internet sources for the Webster and Boyd families. (I am interested in both, of course.) In fact, in the interim, I discovered that both families can be found throughout the pages of all volumes of the Bangor History Magazine, which can be seen at the Hathi Trust website: I have not yet checked the pages of the Main Historical Magazine, which succeeded the Bangor magazine. So eventually, when I can organize the information I have found, I will be able to provide some source information.

Is there a way that I can be notified when a response is made from one of my comments or questions? Or, should I have received one and my email system did not let it through? I see my watcher name is in red. Best, George--dmpr3 02:39, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Hi George, your watcher name is in red because you have not yet added content to your userpage (you can do that by clicking on the red-linked name and press Edit). Regarding notifications of changes to pages, you are a watcher on this page, so you can be emailed of changes that are made. However, it appears you have not supplied a valid email address. You can change your email settings by clicking on Settings on the top right and add your email address to the User Profile tab. You can also see changes to pages you watch by logging into WR and clicking on My Relate>Watchlist in the menu at the top. I hope this helps! --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:34, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Regarding notifications of changes to pages, you do have a valid email address, but you've turned off email notifications in your settings. Click on "Settings" in the top right as Jennifer said, then check "E-mail me when a page I'm watching is changed" and "E-mail me when my user talk page is changed". You can also check "Enable e-mail from other users", which will allow people to email you in case they don't want to leave a message on your talk page.--Dallan 14:05, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Cheraws, SC [8 June 2011]


Yesterday I saw the Place pg you created for Cheraws. I'm wondering if this link to Gregg's "History of Old Cheraws" would be good to put on that page. But I'm not sure enough of the history of that area to say for sure. I did put this on the SC Research Guide page.

It has been difficult for me to figure out the jurisdictional areas and I hope someone will fill that info on the Place pg for SC. The way I've heard it is that Chesterfield, Marlboro and Darlington counties were created in 1785 out of old Craven county. Then in 1800 each became Chesterfield, Darlington and Marlboro Circuit Court Districts. Then in 1868 they went back to being called counties. And St. David's Parish fits somewhere in there! But the Place pg for SC says "the text in this section is copied from an article in Wikipedia" and there is no text!

So anyway, put the link to Gregg's history somewhere if you want. --Janiejac 14:38, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Hi, Thank you for your message. I too am not an expert on SC so can't say one way or another about this. I do not have the time right now to do in depth research to help either. If we are lucky someone else might come forward and add content on this subject. If I remember right (I could be very wrong though) the very early counties created under the English was Church of England or whatever the "official religion" of that time period. I am still a little fuzzy what the jurisdiction under the US post American Revolution was. It might have been still under the church or could have been made a civil county. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come forward. Take Care. Debbie Freeman --DFree 21:44, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Dana.delight [24 June 2011]

Are you Dana.delight at Leave a message for Dana.delight:

That web address instead took me to DFree which doesn't explain who Dana.delight is or even if DFree is the same person as Dana.delight.

I have a HUGE concern and truly regret that I made the mistake of submitting anything to WeRelate which is why I isolated my Joseph Jones / Mary Covalt line from all my others hoping, in part, that someone out there that I have not discovered has solved the mystery of the identity of Evan W. Jones' first wife beyond her given name, Mary, and her date of birth, August 31, 1796, which I would stake my life on its accuracy. And also the family history of Harriet Bell's grandfather, Joseph Jones.

Since submitting the Joseph Jones / Mary Covalt GedCom, I have discovered Joseph Jones' place of residence in southwest Pennsylvania when he was sent to Fort Washington south of present day Cincinnati, OH, but that is as close as we've gotten to his further history.

Now that you've worked through the Brownfields and arrived at Harriet Bell Jones, I have a LOT of things to reveal to you, so I need, and must have, personal contact with you from here out. --Wilene Smith in Wichita, KS--Wilene 16:19, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

message from you [29 June 2011]

[[5]]--Dana.delight 06:37, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

Complex [6 July 2011]

this program is impossibly complex for example there is no send button anywhere how do I submit when there is no submit button--Oliveamoore 19:50, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

Complex [6 July 2011]

this program is impossibly complex for example there is no send button anywhere how do I submit when there is no submit button--Oliveamoore 19:50, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

birth/death "at sea" [15 July 2011]

Hi, Debbie, Thanks for your welcome note and willingness to help with questions. I'm unsure what do do about a birth or death "at sea." I've entered this in the place field, but not created a page for the place. Must be looking in the wrong sections, as I can't find anything in the Help pages. Will you please tell me where I can find it in the Help section?

2nd question: Haven't been able to discern the difference between when to list as a "source" versus as a "citation only." Again, would appreciate Help section reference.--Gold lotus 99 14:37, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Hello User Gold lotus 99, Welcome. On your first question I would NOT make a Place page since you do not know the exact location, i.e which sea, etc. There are many seas on our planet Earth. I would however under the source, citation section, or note section add where you located this information. Was it a published book, a pension, etc. That way you can or another researcher can confirm or expand on the information later thru other sources. Computers are masters of EXACT, they do not like vagueness.

On the second question. It is a matter of preference or what information you have. If you have added information from that source. Such as "his pension states his birth, marriage, and death and name of his wife which is" then that is additional source information. So you or a fellow researcher can learn (and cite) where a certain piece of information is located. Or on the other hand there is wrong information but most is good and accurate you might have made a note that Fact X is wrong. Or you might have made a note about that source X adds to the circumstantial evidence which proves conclusion X for instance. If it is just a name on a book. Say a County history book stating that a John Doe is living in township X in the year X, and you have other sources such as a pension which confirms that John Doe is your particular John Doe than I would probably make that a citation only.

I hope this makes some sense to you, and please remember WeRelate does have Help Pages and or Talk Pages which you can search for from the top of the page under Search - All - Help or add a keyword such as citation. Thanks Debbie Freeman, one of the volunteer administrators --DFree 15:48, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks, Debbie. Just realized I forgot to set myself as a watcher, and so missed your response until now. Ah, well.

In re-reading my questions, realized I didn't ask an important one -- Should I leave the place field blank, if I don't know the ocean, and only include "at sea" in the description? In one case, the birth occurred between Belfast, Ireland and New York, so it could be the Atlantic, but not necessarily. Even if I knew the exact route of the voyage, don't know which sea or ocean the ship was in at the time of birth. In this case the source doesn't provide the detail.

Appreciate all your help, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 10:33, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Hello Tamara, Glad you found my message. For now I would leave the place field blank, but if you have the source now or later I would add the source of the death. Example - Name of the source, page # cites "died at sea". As for the birth place I would leave that blank. For both the birth and death If you know the name of the ship he/she was born/died and the dates of the voyage I would add that in the note or description area. Example - Ship "Loyal" left England on June 1848 arrived in Boston, MA, USA in Aug 1848 Captain John Doe.
I'm going to chime in to add some additional suggestions. I suggest putting "at sea" in the description field next to the place so that it shows up at the top of the page but not as a link - it's not as if you don't know the place, you just don't want it showing as a red link. Second, regarding Source v. Citation Only, this is a new change that isn't documented in the help yet, but the question is whether you are using something that does or should have a Source page or not. If a Source page does not exist, you create one only for publications, databases, or vital records collections that of use genealogy researchers of many families, not just yours. So County History of X, yes. Joe's Family History website or Aunt Sally's death certificate, no. The latter can be a MySource if 1) you have something to say about the source itself to put on the MySource page; or 2) you're going to use it a lot and want the convenience of the link. Otherwise, simply type the citation information on each page where you need it, selecting "Citation Only." Whichever you choose, you can and should use the source details field to describe what the source says and/or why it supports the fact that you are citing it for.--Amelia 13:08, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the extra detail, Debbie, and appreciate Amelia chiming in, too. Makes sense to include "at sea" and other details in the description, so it's visible at the top of the page, and will do so.

The source vs. citation only use info is really helpful. Thanks, Amelia, for describing the new system. Think I was trying to integrate the old and new ways, without knowing there was a new way that would replace the old.

Thanks again, Tamara.--Gold lotus 99 09:31, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Hi, Debbie and/or Amelia, Re: the citation only vs. source. Have just added, as a source, a message board on the Black Hawk War. Chose source rather than citation only because it provides general war history, as well as some muster roll transcriptions. Was that the right choice?

In creating the source, though, I got stuck because it's a strange type. Question 2: Could someone please finish the creation so I can see what needs to be done?

Thanks again, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 12:38, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Hello Tamara, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Real life interfered yesterday. I took a quick look at your new source for the Black War. Thanks for adding that source. I do not see any problem off the top of my head as the saying goes. I might be a little behind on the latest Source theory so if anyone else wants to add a comment that would probably be a good thing too. Take Care, Debbie Freeman --DFree 11:37, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks again, Debbie, and no worries for delay, hope all is well. If the Wisconsin Black Hawk War is of interest, have added other new sources on it recently. Tamara--Gold lotus 99 17:30, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

UN Watch [13 July 2011]

I would like to remove my name from the "Watch" list on several pages. Can you tell me how to do this? Thank you Jim TArbet--Tarbet 11:50, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Hi Jim, Go to the page you no longer wish to follow, and click on "Unwatch". Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:07, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Placing census info on family (not person) pages [20 July 2011]

Hi Debbie, I understand that census info can be placed on either family or person pages, and am trying to choose which way to do it, and would appreciate your input. Started placing census info on person pages, without realizing the family page was an option. Of course, repeating the information from one person's page to the next person page is time-consuming, and I'm not sure there is a benefit. And, I don't know if there is a down side to entering only on the family page. Thanks for any insight, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 12:16, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Hello Tamara, As you have figured out it is your choose. The Family page or Person page can have the census information. My personal choose would be to add census sources to an already existing Family page. Also do not forget you can easily add a link from the Family Page to the Person page by using (typing in) the double brackets [ then add Person:name then (number) or Family:name (number). Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:09, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 July 2011]

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[2 August 2011]

Hi there, I'm new to "We Relate" and I just saw that you're the first watcher of my page. So I thought I'd write in my regards.

Godspeed, Akshay--ImperiumCaelestis 05:36, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

Hello Akshay, Thanks for your message. I hope WeRelate works for your needs. If you have any questions you can send a message to the Support page. Wish you genealogical luck. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:23, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

Wedding announcement for Hiram M. Freeman & Mary Jane Weir [21 September 2011]

I have something I thought you might like to have. It is a copy of the newspaper wedding announcement for Hiram M. Freeman and Mary Jane Weir. It was printed in the October 18, 1859 issue of the "Bureau County Republican." Here is the text of the announcement. "Married.... Also, at Dover, October 5th, by Rev. F. Bascom, Mr. H. M. Freeman and Miss Mary J. Weir." If you would like to have a copy of the announcement, as it appeared in the newspaper, let me know. I will be happy to send you a copy.

I have also been doing research on Robert and Sarah Weir's family. My guess is that they are also the parents of my great, great grandmother, Catherine Weir (Belden). Catherine was born in New York in about 1825 and she and her husband, Orsamus C. Belden, lived in Castile, New York in 1845, when their first son, was born. By 1849, when their second child, James, was born, Catherine and her family had moved to Dover, Illinois, which is where Robert and Sarah were also living by 1852, when Sarah died. My reasons for believing Catherine is their daughter include the following: 1. Robert and Sarah were the right age to be Catherine's parents and were the only Weir family I could find in the 1840 census for Castile, New York who would have been the right age to be her parents. 2. Robert and Sarah had a son named James and Catherine named her second son James, very possibly after her brother, since the name James was not from the Belden side. 3. Both families came from the same town in New York and moved to the same town in Illinois within a short time of one another. Do you know of any information that might help me prove or disprove my theory? Also, have you been able to find information on the families of Robert Weir and/or Sarah Blake Weir?

I don't know if you have seen this or not, but the Illinois Ancestors website shows where Robert, Sarah and Robert's second wife, Louisa, were buried. [6]

I am looking forward to hearing from you.


Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 18:35, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Hello Robin, Thank You for your message. I really do appreciate it. It is nice to know the date and place of marriage for this couple. I am curious that you have his name as Hiram M Freeman? Not Harlow? It is also good to know about another possible sibling of Jane. I have not totally confirmed that this Harlow is our Harlow. It is possible that this Harlow could be connected to the Freeman family in 1850 Cook County, IL. They have a Chauncey Freeman. Have you looked at the NY State Census's, or land records in IL, or NY? Probate records in IL? Also what does Catherine (Weir) Belden's death certificate or obit say? What little I have found is already on WeRelate. I look forward to hearing more from you. It sure would be nice to firm up or prove that this is the wrong Harlow M Freeman. If I remember right they might have lived in Nebraska as well. I am not sure it is on WeRelate. I will double check. Debbie Freeman --DFree 20:59, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

I double checked. It was not Nebraska. It was in 1 July 1881 in Helmville, Deer Lodge County, Montana Territory, United States. An "H M Freeman" was a Post Officer Master at this location. I do not know if it is the same person. But Montana is closer to ID than IL. Source is "Official Register of the U.S." Vol 2 published in 1881. You can use Goggle Books to locate it.

Hi Debbie,

    Sorry about the confusion.  Your are right.  It was Harlow.  The wedding announcement for H. M. Freeman and Mary J. Weir didn't give H. M.'s first name.  It would have made it so much easier if reporters and authors from that era would have given people's names instead of just referring to them by their initials. Because of your question, I did a lot more research and found proof that Mary. J. Weir's husband was Harlow, as you had thought.  The source of that information was a summary of the data found on Mary's death certificate which I found on  The summary also shows that this particular Mary J. Weir Freeman's place of birth was Ganesville (Gainesville) N.Y. and her estimated date of birth was 1841.  Her death certificate also confirms that her parents were Robert Weir and Sarah Blake, which makes it easy to make sure we have the right Mary J. Freeman.  Here is a link to the summary, in case you would like to see it.  [7]

To answer your other questions: 1. Yes, I have done a lot of research, reviewing and taking notes from the online copies of the original hand written census information for my ancestors, whenever possible. When I can't find those, the summaries that are available on some sites at least give some of their basic information from the census. 2. I have not looked at the land records yet, except for the 1875 plat maps for Bureau County, Illinois. That is on my to do list. Do you know the best way to do this, if you can't visit the county court house?

Have you ordered microfilm from the LDS Library in Salt Lake City, Utah before? That is what I do. I see if the LDS library in Salt Lake City, Utah has the microfilm copies online at familysearch. If they do I then order the microfilm which comes to the familyhistory center of my choice. They have now gone to online ordering.

3. I haven't researched the probate records yet.

answer above - Index to probate, etc

4. I haven't found a copy of Catherine's death certificate or obituary. I have only managed to track Catherine up to the 1910 census for Madison, Greenwood, Kansas, which lists her as living with the family of granddaughter, Ada Rue. I don't know where Catherine was living when she died or when that occurred, which complicates the process. Any suggestions would be appreciate.

Have you researched all her children? Maybe she is buried in the same cemetery as her, or maybe she remarried and is listed as a Catherine ?.

The other thing I would try is the directories for the last known location. Also I am sure you have looked at the various cemetery index's, find a grave website, etc.

One of the most awesome things that I have discovered is that the Bureau County Historical Society has the original old glass negatives from the entire collection of portraits and the photographs taken by local photographer Henry Immke during the period between 1866 and 1923. [8] The Historical Society will do surname searches for just $2 each to see if any of your ancestors photos are in their collection. I was thrilled beyond words when I was able to purchase photos of Catherine, her husband, O.C. Belden and each of their children from them. You might want to have BCHS check the Freeman surname and any other family surnames of your ancestors who lived in the Bureau County area during that time period (or even before, since some Mr. Immke's collection also includes negatives from some photos that were taken earlier and brought in to Mr. Immke to be copied).

You might also want to contact the library in Princeton, IL and see if they copies of old Bureau County newspaper articles about your family from that era, like I did. Those historic old articles might give you some really helpful information. I had them research the Belden, Weir and Porterfield families, which is how I got the wedding announcement for Mary and Harlow. If I find anything else in my collection that pertains to your research, I will share it with you.

Thanks for all of the great genealogy research work you have posted. It's really helpful.--Familyhistoryresearcher 20:28, 17 September 2011 (EDT)--Familyhistoryresearcher 19:25, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Sorry for the delay in getting back to your message. Life is pretty busy right now. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 21:25, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Education [1 October 2011]

Hi Debbie, There is a free webinar today. Thought you may be interested. --Beth 08:56, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Remembering the Ladies: Researching Your Female Ancestors Join us for a Webinar on Saturday, October 1 Reserve your Webinar Seat Now at: [9]

Hi Beth, Thank you for thinking about me. Unfortunately I can't make this one since I will not be home. Too busy today. I will try to see if they have a free archive so I can listen/watch later. Take Care, Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:50, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

New information on Robert Weir and family [7 October 2011]

Hi Debbie,

    You are going to love this!  
    I contacted some cousins I found through my internet research and one of them sent me a copy of the Weir and Belden family records that have been passed down through the generations!  I have transcribed the hand written page that lists the Weir family births, marriages and deaths for the generation we have been researching and am posting it here for you.  It reads as follows:

Robert Weir ........... Sept. 27, 1799

Sarah Weir ............ " 12, 1804


Catherine Weir ........ Dec. 23, 1826

Margret Weir .......... June 27, 1828

Cynthia Weir .......... May 3, 1830

Lenard Weir ........... Jan'y 3, 1833 (January)

James Weir ............ Oct. 16, 1835

Mary Weir ............. Oct. 6, 1841


Catherine Belden ...... Dec. 10, 1844

Cynthia Potter ........ March 23, 1847

Mary Freeman .......... Oct. 5, 1859

James ................. Oct. 185* (The last number of the year is missing)


Robert Weir ........... Apr. 19, 1867

Sarah Weir ............ Sep. 9, 1856

Margret Weir .......... Dec. 18, 1837

Lenard Weir ........... Oct. 27, 1838

James Weir ............ Dec. 22, 1875

Cynthia Weir Potter ... April 3rd, 1902

Catherine Porterfield.. Dec. 27, 1912

    Now, I know for sure that Catherine was the daughter of Robert Weir and Sarah Blake. :)   I also know that Catherine, James and Mary had three other siblings, Margret, Cynthia and Lenard.  Of those three previously unknown siblings, only Cynthia lived to adulthood and married.  This information is a wonderful confirmation of the things I had suspected but had not been able to prove.  This family record gives a lot of information on the Weir family and my great, great grandmother, Catherine Weir Belden Porterfield that was new to me.  I am in the process of doing some follow up research to try to find more information about Catherine and her siblings, including her sister, Cynthia Weir Potter.  I will let you know what I find.--Familyhistoryresearcher 14:50, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
Wow!! This is great news. It is really nice of these new cousins to share. I look forward to hearing more. Thank You for sharing. Pre 1850 New York is not the easiest state to research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 22:40, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

1865 Illinois Census for Harlow Milton Freeman [20 October 2011]

I found the 1865 Illinois Census information for H.M. Freeman. Harlow Milton Freeman was living in Dover, Illinois. His occupation is listed as Blacksmith. The census lists the ages of the family members as well. Just three lines below Harlow you will see the census information for the family of Robert Weir who was the father of Harlow's wife, Mary Jane. On the next line down from Robert Weir, you will find A.E. Belden. A.E. was the brother-in-law of Robert's oldest daughter, Catherine Weir Belden Porterfield, who also lived in Dover at the time. Dover, Illinois was a small and fairly new pioneer town but there were a whole lot of families in town that were originally from New York who were related to our family. [[10]]--Familyhistoryresearcher 03:07, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

Hi, Great News !! It looks like it is coming together. I wonder if you can find the IL State Civil War Militia Census for Dover, IL and see what it says about these folks. It should say their name, age and place of birth. Maybe more than a state. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:53, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

WILLIAM W WILLIAMS [11 December 2011]

Hi Deb,

I was wondering if your William W Williams is related to my William Wheeler Williams from Connecticut. He went to Ohio before 1812 as part of the Connecticut land grants and was one of the first settlers in the Cleveland area. I've noticed in that family there are names that repeat in different generations.

Also curious about your relationship to John Giddens married to Margueritte Bergeron daughter of Jacques Bergeron and Judith Peletan. I am looking for information on their children and descendents. I have records for 7 children in that family.

Chris--Azdamselfly 08:15, 11 December 2011 (EST)

Hi Chris,

Welcome to WeRelate. I hope that in time WeRelate will make sense to you. On William Williams (i.e. Williams Family) I am assuming you mean Person:William Williams (242) son of Family:Henry Williams and Caroline Dudley (1) anything is possible, I could be wrong, etc. Without matching the maiden names of the mother etc. The Williams family I am trying on and off to research came from Monroe Co., & Wayne County, New York pre 1850. They then went to Hancock Co., IL before 1850. There are multiple Williams family's in Hancock Co., IL. And many used the same name for their children's names. So it becomes pretty confusing.

On the Giddens/Bergeron family I am not related, at one time I must have helped, minor cleanup, the page so my User name is listed. Good Luck on WeRelate and your genealogy research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:58, 11 December 2011 (EST)

WILLIAM W WILLIAMS [11 December 2011]

Hi Deb,

I was wondering if your William W Williams is related to my William Wheeler Williams from Connecticut. He went to Ohio before 1812 as part of the Connecticut land grants and was one of the first settlers in the Cleveland area. I've noticed in that family there are names that repeat in different generations.

Also curious about your relationship to John Giddens married to Margueritte Bergeron daughter of Jacques Bergeron and Judith Peletan. I am looking for information on their children and descendents. I have records for 7 children in that family.

Chris--Azdamselfly 08:15, 11 December 2011 (EST)

Chatterton and Swain [4 January 2012]

Ha Deb it's me D Cady I have moved and I finally got my pc back up and running I would love to hear from you so we can catch up I am a caregiver I am off on Monday's and Wednesday's.--Whitetinydog 14:35, 4 January 2012 (EST)
Hi Good to hear from you. I will call you this week. Glad to hear your computer is up and running. I have not been researching the Chatterton/Gasson's side. Life and other ancestors have kept me busy. Now that the holidays are over maybe I can. Talk to you soon. Debbie Freeman --DFree 16:38, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Chatterton faimly Tree [9 January 2012]

ha Deb this is your disdent cusuion Whitetinydog.Ihave NEW info on Thomas Chatterton faimly I found his Faimly all the way back to 1660's. if you can Email me or Call me I can give you the list of Email is 15:50, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Proper recording of census records as references [16 January 2012]

Hi Debbie,

Is there a spot on the wiki that explains how to properly record census records as references? I would like to enter it in in the proper manner but see census references listed in a variety of ways. At the moment I am just listing them at the bottom, which does make it easy for folks to copy and use, but am not sure if it is in "compliance" with WeRelate's preferred method.

Thanks very much!

Bearsong 09:47, 16 January 2012 (EST)

Hello Bearsong, Thanks for sending me a message. First off the other administrators are more than welcome to correct, or add to this message. I would suggest you take a look at the page called "Help: source page titles" it might help. Because of the GEDCOM import function there are sources that are similar but not the same. Since it takes the title from the GEDCOM import. Also because of the Familysearch Library catalog sources there are some Census sources that were index's, etc that are similar too. If I remember right, and it is the way I do my census sources I use - Place. Year Title, - an example would be "United States.1850 U.S. Census Population Schedules". In the text area I add more detailed information, household name, E.D, notes, etc. Example would be "John Doe household, E.D. 40, his parents are listed as being born in CT". Also do not forget WeRelate is editable, so you can go back and edit if you wish. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:00, 16 January 2012 (EST)

Church Records for Mary Weir and family [27 April 2012]

Hi Debbie,

    I have some new information on Mary Jane Weir that I want to share with you.  I just purchased an antique booklet entitled "First Congregational Church - One Hundred Years - 1838-1938 - Dover, Illinois." As I was looking through the booklet, I discovered the fact that Mary Weir was one of the singers from the early days of the church who is mentioned in the booklet.  So, now we know that Mary and her sister, Catherine Belden Porterfield and Catherine's family were members of the First Congregational Church of Dover. 
    The booklet is full of amazing information that sheds light on the history of the church, its members and life in that era.  The booklet also contains some awesome old photographs of the Brigham home (the first meeting place for the church), the little log cabin school where services were held until the brick church was built in 1850 and photos of two of the pastors.  There is also a chronological listing of all of the pastors and the years in which they served.  I found the information about music in the early church that answered many of the questions.  Now, I have much more information to use as a spring board for future research.
    I am going to do some more church research and see if I can verify whether their parents, Robert Weir and Sarah Blake Weir were members of that church as well.  Earlier this week, I called the Bureau County Genealogical Society in Princeton, Illinois and spoke with a gentleman there.  He checked through their records and told me that they have some of the church records for the First Congregational Church in Dover, as well as several earlier anniversary editions of the history of the church.
    I am having so much fun with this!
    If you want copies of any of the information that I have for your own records, just let me know.

Sincerely, Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 18:38, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Hi Debbie,

    I have made lot of progress with my research on the Weir family.  I now have a copy of Robert Weir's will and probate papers and some of the church records for Mary Jane as well as for the family of her sister, Catherine Weir Belden.  The new sources of information add some interesting details about the family's musical talents.  They sang in the church.  Robert's will also mentions the fact that he had given Mary Jane a melodian.  Another interesting fact was that Robert named Mary's husband, Harlow Milton Freeman, the executor of his will.  If you would like me to send you copies of anything I have, let me know.
    I also managed to find a copy of the Civil War military registration listing for my great, great grandfather, Orsamus C. Belden (Catherine's husband).  The book for Bureau County, Illinois that contains the listing only includes residence, name, age, description (white or colored), occupation and place of birth where only the state was filled in, so I don't think we will find any new information on other family members from that source.

Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 17:29, 27 April 2012 (EDT)

Thomas Chatterton' s Mom and Dad [10 February 2012]

I think I found his ancestry's I am home on sick leave so if you would call me I can read them off my Family tree maker on my PC .I am suppose to go back to work on 2,7,2012. Hope you are doing OK your self.--Whitetinydog 17:07, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Hi Deb, Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. Life has not been very genealogy friendly. I am going to try to send you an e-mail on the Chatterton family. Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:19, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Hello! [10 February 2012]

Just saw that you have a Watch to my page and wanted to say hello!

Any advice you can offer?

Doug--Dughall 12:56, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Hello Doug,

Welcome to WeRelate. Hope you will find WeRelate useful. I guess my advice is to be patient wiki's take time to learn. And with your genealogy research the more details you share about your deceased ancestors the easier it is for others to help and for distant cousins to link their family to your family. Time periods, locations, maiden names, etc really effect your research. Different sources exist for different time periods or locations. Land records, church records, government records, etc. The other thing we try to emphasis is SOURCING!! In an open shared environment like a wiki sourcing is very important. With sourcing it is usually obvious which John Smith is the right John Smith for instant. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Help! [14 February 2012]


I'm new to WeRelate and to wikis in general, so I daresay I'm missing something or just being thick.

I've uploaded my GEDCOM and am trying to review it prior to import.

I have warnings at 0.4% which seems to relate to 5 alerts and 1 warning.

The five alerts are all okay in that the items indicated are all correct and so I want to ignore the alerts.

The single warning may - or may not - refer to a genuine error. I'm inclined to think it does. It refers to the age of the mother (quite old) at the birth of the child. I'd point out that the GEDCOM entry refers to a baptism and not a birth but nevertheless I think it likely that I'm wrong.

So it seems to correct it I have to remove the GEDCOM and upload a corrected version. Okay, but I can't remove it, the button is greyed out. When I try to match with other families, I get the message that I have too many warnings.

Neither can I ignore all of the above and just import it because the Import button is greyed out too.

Any assistance appreciated.


Mick--Redesdalemick 21:56, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Hello Mick, Welcome to WeRelate. I hope WeRelate will work for you. First off I will add that the other admin's are more than welcome to add their two cents of advice. I do not think you need to delete and re upload your gedcom. You just need to locate another source of birth if possible and add that to the person page of the child in editing the GEDCOM. You were a little vague of the location and time period of the mother, child and baptism. So my first idea is for you to look in your sources for another source that might mention their ages. If you can calculate with this other source when the child and mother were born which might have been many years before the baptism possibly. It was not uncommon in some locations for a child to be baptized many years after their birth. You then can use that other source for a date or year of birth. Which I assume will solve the warning. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 00:11, 11 February 2012 (EST)

Hi, this is Solveig. There is no reason to remove your gedcom. Most Gedcoms have a few glitches. Even if a file is completely sourced, it's possible that someone will disagree with your findings. So we don't expect every error to be remedied before the gedcom is uploaded. That said, we don't want to import gedcoms that are full of obvious errors. We look at the amount of errors and warnings. If this is the best information you have at this time and the rest of the data is relatively clean, the gedcom will be imported. What we ask people to do is look at the warnings, alerts and errors and see if it can be fixed. You can click on the page title in the upper window and edit the info in the lower window. When you are finished, click on the import tab and click on "ready to import." Please note, you cannot do this until you have clicked on and reviewed every warning, alert or error, and on each proposed match. Hope this helps. Please leave me a message if you have any other questions.

I'll add this message to Mick's talk page. --sq 11:35, 14 February 2012 (EST)

Snoddy family [18 April 2012]

DFree: I am trying to respond to your message but not sure this will be successful. You asked whether or not the changes I submitted are in the family Bible or should have been in the Bible:

1. Mary Frances Hisle name correction--I think whomever transcribed the Bible couldn't read the handwriting. Her name is definitely Mary Frances Hisle Collins and is listed as such in the Bible. 2. The note about Robert Phelps/Smith Collins middle name isn't in the Bible; it is just a note of interest. I'm not sure anyone knows now why he was told his name was Phelps when it was actually Smith. He didn't find out his name was Smith until he was an adult, the story goes. 3. I don't know how William Joseph Collins' name is written in the Bible, but his birth certificate states William Joseph.

Thanks, Lisa Collins--Lisa Phelps Collins 12:40, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Lisa, I am going to copy this response to your own talk page. Since User:Quolla6, not User:DFree asked the original question, your response will be seen by the correct user there. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:48, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

--- Yes. Good Idea. Thank You Jennifer, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:58, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Birth/Death certificates etc. [7 June 2012]

what kind of license do I need to put down for images of birth certificates ect... I scanned copies of copies that the family has, but they are not federal documents I'm not sure if I can say I own the copies and put it on that line???? --Kissmenow 13:56, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Hello Kissmenow, Welcome. I would suggest that you look (study) the WeRelate pages called Help:Images tutorial as well as the two other pages Help:Image licensing & WeRelate:Terms of Use . Copyright is a complex issue. Your question can vary by which country that the document is from. The time period when the document was created, etc. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 14:32, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Sorry let me clarify they are state docs --Kissmenow 14:58, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Hello Kissmenow, OK. Please do look at the pages mentioned above by clicking on the links. Most of your answers are answered and explained on these webpages. As I mentioned, various things like privacy laws, the time period when the record was created, etc matters. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 15:27, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Updating Trees [16 July 2012]

I want to update my family tree. This will add several hundred new people to my Gedcoms. Should I delete previous tree before uploading a new gedcom, or will the merges occur automatic1ly? I would hate to have to do that many merges by hand.

Jim Tarbet--Tarbet 16:01, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Hello Jim,

Yes you will need to delete your GEDCOM before uploading a new GEDCOM. Also you might want to wait 12-24 hours or so before you upload the new GEDCOM. It gives the server a chance to catch up. If you look at this WeRelate page Help:GEDCOM on the FAQ 1.12 it should answer the basics. Thanks for asking. Debbie Freeman --DFree 16:25, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Help with user name [16 August 2012]

You are watching the page of my cousin GayelKnott and I cannot find any other way to get help. Gayel's user name has a capital letter for her last name. How can I change my user name so instead of Nedrabrill it shows up as NedraBrill? (without the question mark <G>). Thank you, Nedra--nedrabrill 00:04, 16 August 2012 (EDT)

Hi Nedra, I have copied and pasted your request for a User Name change to the WeRelate Support page the link is located on the WeRelate Main Page. Another WeRelate Admin should be able to change your WeRelate User name as requested. Please be a little patient. Thank You for using WeRelate. Debbie Freeman --DFree 00:17, 16 August 2012 (EDT)

LAYMAN-MOOMAW 20090714.ged [21 August 2012]

Hi, Debbie,

I just found your message -- after about three years -- I'd forgotten I had posted this .gedcom to WeRelate!! :-(--Path90714 15:20, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Stars [7 February 2013]

What are the stars that I see here and there about? Is this some type of rating system. Please explain. Thanks.--David Cornwell 23:48, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Hello User David Cornwell, I am sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I think I have figured out what stars you were referring to. If you look on the WeRelate page called "Help:Search" than look under "Best Match" sub heading it will expalin the meaning of the stars and your various search options in WeRelate, Good Luck in your research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:38, 5 February 2013 (EST)

Thanks for the answer.--David Cornwell 22:43, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Mathes Family from Iowa [6 February 2013]

Hello Free, I am wondering if your Mathes Family, is related to my family line? Mae M. Mathis Birth in Missouri, USA Death 13 Apr. 1962 in Cheney, Spokane, Washington, USA--Angie2u 22:59, 4 February 2013 (EST)

Hello DFree, I am not sure what "Stars" mean here? Were you able to find out if my Mathes is related to your Mathes family?

Thank you! Angie--Angie2u 02:10, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Hello Angie, Sorry for the delay I tried to locate sources/records with the very limited information regarding Mae M Mathes I could not find any. Without parents, state/county of birth, etc I cannot tell. You can search on WeRelate for Person: William Mathes (1) who is my Mathes ancestors. You might find one of his children, etc could be your ancestor as well. Good Luck on your research.

If you look at the previous subject, Stars, you will find my response to the Stars question. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:38, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Green Kent [13 February 2013]


 Do you have any further info on Green Kent b. 1820 in Georgia? Who were his wives, and when did they marry, and where did they live, etc.?

Thanks Colin McKee--Colin McKee 18:00, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Jonas Ullberg 1706-1770 [17 February 2013]

I understand from the set up of werelate that you are interested in Jonas Ullberg 1706-1770 from Køping. Westmanland in Sweden. See my short article about him.--Frank Burmann 15:46, 17 February 2013 (EST)

Mary and H. M. Freeman [22 February 2013]

I don't remember whether I told you this already, but the Bureau County Historical Society has a huge collection of historic old glass negatives of photos that were taken by Henry W. Immke, a photographer in Bureau County, Illinois during the period when Mary Weir Freeman and her husband, Harlow Milton Freeman lived there. You can send in a surname search request plus $2 for each surname to the Bureau County Historical Society and they will send you a list of names that match your request. Several years ago, I was extremely blessed to find that they have negatives for photos of Mary's sister, Catharine Weir Belden Porterfield and her family. It is quite possible that they might have photos of your Bureau County ancestors from that era as well. I already had them check for the Weir family surname, but, sadly, they could not find photos of our Weir family ancestors, but I didn't have them check for photos of Mary under her married name. Have you? I would really like to get Mary's photo too, if it is available. Just to let you know, you can order photos from them with confidence. I have ordered many photos from BCHS and have been extremely pleased with all of them. [11] [12]

I don't remember if you have already found this or not, but the death certificate for Mary Jane Weir Freeman is available on Family Search. [13]

I now have a copy of Robert Weir's will and I am also working on getting copies of the old church records from the First Congregational Churches of Dover and Malden, Illinois. Let me know if you would like me to share this information with you.

Sincerely, Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 17:12, 22 February 2013 (EST)

Robert Weir [11 March 2013]

The Sally Wilson Family Tree on has an entry that matches our ancestor, Robert Weir. Have you seen this or connected with her? [14]--Familyhistoryresearcher 19:11, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

hello [14 March 2013]

Thank you for the message, although I am embarrassed to say I don't know what part of the family we are connected to. I dont mean to sound dumb, but I have never really known much of my family. Leaving home at a very early age (16) my first marrage lasting almost 35 years. I really lost touch. My mom, Bobbie Jo as she liked to be called tried very hard to united us all over the last 10 years or so before her early passing. Sadly, with her passing also passed the passage to connection.  :)

I am still very glad to see a line of communication beginning, happy is a better word. I hope it continues and bloosms into a true and life long one.

Cynthia (Cindy)--Cindygirl2u 11:17, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

Welcoming users [15 April 2013]

Hi Debbie,

I've been noticing that WR has more new users registering than usual. We've also been getting more spam than usual. I believe that many of the "users" welcomed each day are actually spammers and not real users. We could create an automated welcome message instead. The other option would be to welcome only the new users who have made an edit (and make sure that edit is not spam). How do you feel about these ideas and have you noticed that welcoming users takes more of your time? Do you have other ideas for making welcoming easier? Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:31, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Hi Jennifer, Good to hear from you. I am OK with an automated Welcome message chose. In my opinion some of the WeRelate news users need a path to follow with the Welcome links so they can understand what is WeRelate, and how to use WeRelate. I would not be surprised that the spammers are more, but I admit I have been busy with other things so I have not been paying attention too closely on the logs list. I will continue doing the Welcomes by hand until I receive a final decision. Sound OK to all? --DFree 16:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Sounds good! I will let you know when Dallan has created the automated welcome message. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:39, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

Eli VanGuilder [9 August 2013]

Hi Debbie!

I just found this website yesterday, because of your page on my 4th great grandfather, Eli VanGuilder. I have added some information, but I was curious if you have ever been able to make a connection for Eli's parents. I have a strong suspicion that Achsa VanGuilder, is a sister, but not positive. There is a connection between the VanGuilder's and the Love's in the area, but I haven't bee able to solidify this yet. I do have some information that I was not able to add to the tree, because of licensing issues. I am not sure how you are related to Eli, but if you are interested, I would be willing to email the documents to you.

SO happy to find someone else researching this VanGuilder line! Cindy Gillispie--Cinray23 10:36, 9 August 2013 (EDT)

Giles or James Sullivan [25 December 2013]

I am a descendant of Giles Oldham Sullivan who I think was born in KY, son of Capt James Sullivan according to records I have found online. He was a "Very interesting Character" and has many references in Settlement and History of Missouri, Iowa and Texas. He ended up as a Texas ranger and apparently died there. He was an Independent Indian Scout for Wisconsin Territory and Iowa Territory. Was part of a Cattle Drive from St Charles, MO to British Columbia in 1815. Ran out of Iowa for "kidnapping" a negro to return to Missouri. He then moved to TX and helped found Cameron TX. His nephew and namesake was one of the most famous Texans: "Lawrence Sullivan Ross"

I was wondering if you have additional information on him, or provable references on him being the son of James?


Ed Scharff--Skyshepard 22:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Celah Allen [17 December 2014]

father William Allen, son of John Allen and Ursula Withers mother Mary Bradford--SHIVES 20:43, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

New categories needed [23 January 2015]

Hello ! Please, see here ! Amicalement - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 17:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)