Place talk:Poland

For the WeRelate:Place review

The following historical places of Austria are now located in Poland (1920)
Place:Galizien, Austria + 1476 contained places, some Ukraine (noted in Place talk:Austria)
Place:Schlesien, Austria + 54 contained places, some Czech Republic (noted in Place talk:Austria

The following historical places of Hungary are now located in Poland (1920)
Place:Árva, Hungary + 39 contained places, some Slovakia
Place:Szepes, Hungary + 164 contained places, some Slovakia

The following historical places of Prussia are now located in Poland (1919)
Place:Posen, Preußen + 861 contained places
The following historical places of Prussia are now located in Poland (1945)
Place:Brandenburg, Preußen + 742 contained places, some Germany
Place:Ostpreußen, Preußen + 643 contained places, some Russia
Place:Pommern, Preußen + 705 contained places, some Germany
Place:Schlesien, Preußen + 1737 contained places, some Germany
Place:West Prussia, Prussia + 834 contained places, some Germany

--Bgwiehle 22:37, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Topics


Historical jurisdiction changes [26 October 2007]


1939 [26 October 2007]


1998 [26 October 2007]


Should Powiat be in place hierarchy? [20 October 2013]

Powiat (called "county" in Wikipedia) is the next level of administrative unit down from voivodship. I notice that there are several villages with the same name in the same voivodship (distinguished with the powiat in parentheses after the village name, as picked up from the Family History Library Catalog). This is not consistent with place pages for other countries (such as the U.S.) and it looks to me that we should really use the powiat in the name hierarchy instead.

Or this may be a moot point if we want place page names to represent what they were circa 1900, since Poland did not exist then, and all place pages could have names in another country (e.g., Preußen, Germany).

I have already cleaned up all place pages in Gdańsk, Poland that included the powiat in parentheses - and ended up merging them all with place pages in Preußen, Germany, and then indicating the powiat they are also located in (since 1945) - see this example.

  • I don't know if this is the way we want to continue with Polish place names. One result of this approach is that the place page no longer has a clear link between the Polish village name (alt name) and the Polish administrative hierarchy - but maybe that is OK, as the Polish village name probably existed from earlier centuries and maybe did not entirely go away, even during the time the villages were a part of Prussia.
  • An alternate would be to retain two separate place pages (one Prussian and one Polish) and link them with "see also" - but that rather breaks the philosophy of WeRelate.

Note - even if powiat is only included in the "also located in" it is still important information to distinguish one village from another with the same Polish name - e.g., Nowa Cerkiew, Tczewski, Gdańsk, Poland from Nowa Cerkiew, Nowodworski, Gdańsk, Poland.

Is there an open project on place naming where I should be asking this question?--DataAnalyst 19:59, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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