Person:Johan Schneider (9)

Not sure of relationship between Matthias Schneider and Jacob and Christian Schneider. They are most likely related, may all be brothers, or Matthias may be the father of Jacob and Christian. More research is necessary to determine the exact relationships.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stotzer/snader.html

Here is our Snader family tree based on what "we" know today:

Notes

III. (Johan) Christian Schnadter (Schnader or Schneider or even Snyder) (1) (References) b.abt.1707 in Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland(?) in the "Palatine" area on the Swiss/German border. Settled in the "Weaverland" area of Lancaster County, Pa. He died in 2/1793. m. Susanna Margaretha Ranck b.1707 in Germany d.2/1767 (death recorded at Seltenreich Reformed Church) in New Holland, Lancaster County, Pa. Johan may have been her second husband. Children: Per reference (1) (Records of the below (except Johann Michael) births/baptisms recorded at the Trinity Lutheran Church in New Holland, Pa.)

Margaretha b.2/2/1729 in Europe Baptized 6/8/1735 d.1801 m.Frederick Sparr (b.1725-Germany d.1787) on 4/16/1750. Elisabetha b.7/15/1732 Baptized 6/8/1735 m.Henry Weber(?). (Johann) Jacob b.3/25/1735 Baptized 6/8/1735 d.1829 m.Anna Maria <Unknown> Reference (1) follows this branch many more generations, the Dale Beavans family tree even farther. (Johann) Christian b.3/8/1738 Baptized 4/3/1738 d.1824 m.Elizabeth <Unknown> See IV-A below. (Johann) Philipp b.2/15/1741 Baptized 4/17/1741 d.1799 m.Dorothy Miller or Meuller (sister of Eleanor below). (Johann?) Michael 5/9/1745 Baptised <Unknown> d.9/2/1831 (buried at the New Holland Cemetary) m.Eleanor Miller or Meuller (sister of Dorothy above). See IV-B Below!!

Notes: Johan Christian (and many others) were part of the "Palatine" migration from the area defined by the German/Swiss border in Europe in the early 1700s. He died in 1793 (per a filed Will) in New Holland, Lancaster County, Pa. Johan Christian and Susanna are buried at the New Holland Cemetary. Christian emigrated on the ship "Allen" (2) (3) and arrived in Philadelphia from Rotterdam (via Cowes on the Isle of Wright, England) in September, 1729 with Jacob (Discussion1); "Matheis" (Mathias); "Magdelin"; and Susanna Schneider (Snyder) and many others. There is some conflicting data in references (1) and (2) versus (3) (4) (5) and (6) with repect to which Schneiders/Snyders emigrated when. This can be clarified by reviewing the transcripts of the ship lists (3) and (7). To confuse the issue even further, another "Christian Schneider" had already arrived in Pennsylvania in 1727 on the ship "William and Sarah" (7) (He settled in New Jersey?) and is sometimes confused with the Christian noted above. A "Jacob Schneider" arrived on ship "Phoenix" in 1749. Lastly, reference (15) lists a "Johannes Schneder" arriving on ship "Anderson" in Philadelphia (from Rotterdam via Portsmouth) on September 27, 1752. Issues: There is much confusion about the arrival and subsequent fate of the five above listed Schneiders. It is not known if the three men were brothers (or related at all) but Susanna (Ranck) Christian's wife. Magdelin was probably Mathias' wife. In any case, there is almost no factual information on the fate of Jacob or Mathias. See Discussion1.

From Rootsweb.com post:

From: "William Thomas" <wbtst2@@atlanticbb.net> Subject: Re: [BRE] Misc. Schneider information, Germantown, Pennsylvania Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:57:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20080501.221945.-386185.1.MyersWD@@juno.com>

A Matthias Schneider owned property in Leacock Township adjacent Jacob Thommen (patent map C-182-210). Jacob was part of the Ephrata community at one time, and his daughter was part of the Brethren Shively family.

Bill Thomas

From: brethren-bounces@@rootsweb.com [1] On Behalf Of myerswd@@juno.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:46 PM To: brethren@@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Misc. Schneider information, Germantown, Pennsylvania

"History of Philadelphia, 1609-1884, Vol. II" -- J. Thomas Scharf and Thompson Westcott (1884) (source -- Google Books).

Page 1314. "The Bebberstown (or Upper Germantown) Church grew but slowly. In September, 1729, Rev. Alexander Mack came from Germany with his three sons, Johannes Mack, Valentine Mack, and Alexander Mack, Jr., also Hans Gunde, Andreas Bony, Johann Naas, Anthony Deerdorf, Jacob More, Rudolph Harley, Johann Peter von Lausche, Jacob Kalckglucsser, Johannes Kipping, Jacob Bossert, Heinrich Kalckglucsser, Christopher Kalckglucsser, Wilhelm Knepper, Jacob Schneider, Matthias Schneider, Johannes Pettenkoffer, Hans Koch, George Koch, Reinhard Hammer, and others, who greatly strengthened the church."

"History of Old Germantown" -- Dr. Naaman H. Keyser, C. Henry Kain, John Palmer Garber, Horace F. McCann (1907) (source -- Google Books).

Pages 103-104. A subscription for the purchase of fire engines was taken up (1764). Names included: Jacob Snyder, Christian Snyder.

"Pennsylvania vital records: from the Pennsylvania genealogical magazine and the Pennsylvania magazine of history and biography," Vol. I (1983).

Subscribers for repairs done on Upper Germantown Burying Ground (right of burial for themselves and family).

Pages 560-561 (1760). Alexander Mack. Henry Schneider. Jacob Schneider. Christian Schneider.

Page 563 (1776). Jacob Schneider. Christian Schneider. Alexander Mack.

"A History of the German Baptist Brethren in Europe and America" -- Martin Grove Brumbaugh (1899) (source -- Google Books).

CHAPTER V.A LIST OF THE MEMBERS WHO JOINED THE CHURCH IN EUROPE.

Page 67.

• Schneider (Snyder), Matheis.
• Schneider, Jacob.
• Schneider, Christian.

Schneider, Heinrich, a member at Conshohocken. Schneider, Heinrich, a member in Germantown.

• Schneider, Magdelin.
• Schneider, Susanna.

Schneider, Peter who died November 2, 1741.

• on the Allen.