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the difference? [21 March 2014]
As used here, what's the difference between Burial? and Citation needed?--Frank 14:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand what you are asking. The system puts the red question mark when there are no sources. This is unfortunately a common occurrence on WeRelate pages and simply means research needs to be done and documented.
- cn is something you put on a page explicitly for a purpose. Why? Well, presumably not merely to duplicate the purpose of the red question mark. Since it is not automatically managed like the red question mark, it should have a serious purpose to justify the human intervention to remove it when no longer needed. So one would assume it means you have looked for and can't find a source and really would like somebody to justify the fact, perhaps because you suspect it is wrong but can't find anything that shows it is wrong.
- In this case, some source should be there to justify the burial location. That's what the red question mark indicates. Any serious reader is going to ask, how do you know? Many people fill in burial fields all by guess work, so they tend to be unreliable. The person died 25 Mar 1658 so they fill in 1658 for a burial date and use the same town, etc.
- Now, I haven't done much looking for Mary Bicknell. Ostensibly Find A Grave would satisfy some people, though since there is no picture of a gravestone, I would consider this basically an unsourced webpage. Certainly many sources seem to believe this cemetery was used by the Bicknells for centuries and one of them could be cited. I don't know if there is a source specific for Mary. If Weymouth VRs said GR14, you could just use that existing source citation, but they don't. In this case, since I can find sources that some people would consider adequate, I would only use cn if I had reasonable speculation that she was buried elsewhere, and I would probably document my speculation in an attached note (for example,if you discover the land for this cemetery wasn't donated until 20 years later, not the case here, since Zachary Bicknell d. 1636, is apparently buried here according to Weymouth VRs).
- Even though I don't like this Find A Grave as a source, I would probably add Find A Grave as a source with an annotation that there is no image, so those type of people that plan vacations around visiting graves might realize there is could be nothing to see (gravestones much before 1700 seem to be unusual and often unreadable). Though this is far from enough to show she is really buried there. --Jrich 15:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, my question dealt with the distinction between the red ? and "citation needed." I did not know that the red ? was automatically generated, although if my memory serves me correctly, it doesn't seem to auto generate in every case. And when I click on the red ? it takes me to a "citation needed" explanation page; ergo my question about the difference between the two. Would seem like not much difference is the short answer -- unless there's something I'm missing. If that is the answer, for Mary Shaw the red ? (or even the Citation needed) seems helpful - obviously, one or the other but not both!
- The citation needed page is different than the cn page. One is an article meant to explain what is desired. The other is Template:cn that simply inserts the red text, not just in a description field, but can be used in a narrative, etc. Nobody puts the red question mark on pages. See Family:Zachary Bicknell and Agnes Unknown (1): there is a source on the page, but no sources attached to the marriage fact, so question mark is there. Person:Uriah Leach (2): all the facts with no source attached get a red question mark. Note the question mark for marriage facts only show up on the Family page, question marks for person facts only show up on the Person page. --Jrich 19:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I see that distinction now! Appreciate you pointing to it.
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