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U.S. Census for Thomas West (born 1744 or earlier died abt. 1821): 1790 Chatham Co., NC (Hillsborough District) - 2 entries - 1) 2 males 16 or older, 2 males under 16, 4 females, no others, 3 slaves. 2) 2 males 16 or older, 1 male under 16, 3 females, no others, 2 slaves. 1800 Chatham Co., NC - 1 male 45 or older, 1 female between 10 & 16, 1 female 45 or older, 8 slaves. [For 1810 US Federal Census, I apparently have the wrong Thomas West!] 1810 Christian Co., KY - 4 males under 10, 1 male between 26 & 45, 2 females under 10, 1 female between 26 & 45. 1820 Christian Co., KY - 1 male 45 or older, no females, 2 persons engaged in agriculture, slaves: 2 males under 14, 2 males between 14 & 26, 4 females under 14, 3 females between 14 & 26, 1 female 45 or older.
By John West - Dec 9, 2000 Revolutionary War Accounts, copied by John G. West 4 Aug 1981 NC Archives, Raliegh, NC. Book J, p.144 Rev. War Accts. Thomas West 28 Jul 1788 582 Thos. West in lieu of Cert. Destroyed 16 [pounds].....
1689 To Thomas West 744 16 | 14 | 3 1690 To John Buckner 745 6 | 9 | 2
Claim #582 Thomas west (in lieu of Certificate destroyed) - Sum Claimed: 16.00 Certificate delivered to Major Griffith.
--------------------- @@ -------------------- According to my source - "North Carolina Research Genealogy and Local History" edited by Helen F. M. Leary and Maurice R. Stirwalt, published by The North Carolina Genealogical Society, Raleigh, NC 1980, Pp. 633 - Part II: County Records, Article 13 by Raymond A. Winslow, Jr. "Tax and Fiscal Records", pp. 214 & 215, a law enacted by the NC General Assembly in 1749 stated, "...all and every White Person, Male, of the Age of Sixteen Years, and upwards... shall be deemed taxables..." [Note: that I left out the part about Negroes, Mulattoes, etc. and others of the age of 12 years & upwards were taxables - JGW] "Some provisions of the tax laws were so generally ignored that the Assembly complained in 1760 that a 'full and compleat List has never yet been obtained...' " From these statements in Mz. Leary's book [I have met her in person here in Evansville - she is a great genealogical speaker!], to be listed in the 1755 Tax list one must be at least 16 years old. Thus, with the entry in that 1755 Tax list for Granville Co., NC of Thomas West and son, Richard West - Richard must be 16 years old or older (how much older is not known). Simple math of 16 years from 1755 gives us 1739. Therefore, we can say with confidence that Richard West the son of Thomas West was born in 1739 or earlier. This is what Dr. C. Nash Herndon told me many years ago, and when I asked him how he arrived at that date of "1739 or earlier" he explained the minimum age of 16, but that we do not know if he was also listed in any earlier Tax list as they are not available. Family tradition says that Thomas, Jr. was the oldest. I will have to go thoroughly through my files to see why my records show "about 1735" for the birth of Thomas, Jr. But, by 1755, Thomas, Jr. is not listed with his father like Richard was listed. As one West researcher, I use "abt. 1735" for Thomas, Jr. and "1739 or earlier" for Richard. I do not see that the 1755 Tax List "confirms that Richard West was definitely born sometime between 1738 and 1739." It only confirms that he was born no later than 1739. If we had prior years' tax lists we might see Richard listed for several years before. We just do not know when he turned 16, we just know that he was at least 16 in 1755. Think about this the father, Thomas, Sr., had to be at least 16 years of age, as well - and we know that he was born quite a while before 1739! <grin> Ben, I have never seen any records of this line that indicated that Richard was born in 1733 or that he was the eldest. I must confess that I know that the "1718 or earlier" birth date for Thomas West, Sr. comes from an arbitrary date I selected that was exactly 200 years before my father's birth in 1918. We originally only had a birth date for Ignatius (1750) and that Richard was at least born in "1739 or earlier," so if Thomas, Sr. was at least 21 when one of his first children was born, he had to be born "1718 or earlier!" JGW
[Sorce: (Book) Warren Co., NC Records, Vol. II, Abstracts of Deed Book A, 1764-1766, Deeds of Colonial Bute Co., NC, abstracted, indexed & compiled by Mary Hinton Kerr, Warrenton, NC, Chairman Historic Activities, Granville-Warren Committee, National Society Colonial Dames of America in State of NC, published 1967.] Remember that Richard West had land that adjoined Lanier! This connects the Fike family to the Thomas West family!!! -JGW The following records were transcribed from the NC Secretary of State Land Grant Office in Raliegh, NC as compiled by John G. West on 4 Aug 1981. Taken within one hour of the office closing for the day - hopefully there are no errors - there were other West family land grants not copied due to the time constraint! West, Thomas #1216 Chatham Co. 100 Acres Grant # 1121 Issued 7 Jul 1794 Entry # 1 Entered 16 Feb 1791 Book # 82 Page # 345 Chainmen: Ignatius West & Richard West Beginning at a black jack... Lutterloh's corner & James Simmon's line... Baker's corner... West, Phillip #1792 Chatham Co. 2 3/16 acres Grant # 1698 Issued 7 Dec 1803 Entry # 639 Entered 10 Feb 1801 Book # 117 Page # 242 Chainmen: John Hackney, Sr. & John Hackney, Jr. Waters of Dry Creek, along Thomas West's line & Lutterloh's line from his own corner... (Comptroller's Office 15 Dec 1802 states "10 Acres Entry # 639" ???) West, Jeptha #1693 Chatham Co. 74 Acres Grant # 1620 Issued 14 Nov 1801 Entry # 569 Entered 19 Feb 1800 Book # 111 Page # 162 Chainmen: Hezekiah Henderson & Quintin Millekin On the Waters of Robertson's Creek... West, George #66 Chatham Co. 300 acres Grant # 65 Issued 1 Jul 1779 Entry # 147 Entered 19 Oct 1778 Book # 30 Page # 65 Chainmen: Jeremiah Melton & John Harrison On the head of the Wattery Branch the Watters of Indian Cr. and Deep River. Beginning near the Quaker Road (including the Millstone Glade)... (The following Ignatius West records were copied by me as "Ig" to save time. The records had various spellings for this name - "Egnasus," "Ignasus," "Ignatious," plus a few others. Time was of essence, since the clerk called out that they would be closing in 20 minutes!) Ig # 210 Chatham Co. 400 acres Grant # 341 Issued 31 Mar 1780 Entry # 139 Entered 30 Aug 1779 Book # 32 Page # 195 Chainmen: Ignatious West, Jr. & William West On the SS of Haw River & NS of Dry Creek... Ig # 302 Chatham Co. 381 acres Grant # 433 Issued 31 Mar 1780 Entry # 239 Entered 15 Aug 1779 Book # 32 Page # 287 Chainmen: Ignatious West, Jr. & William West On both sides of Dry Creek... Ig # 1145 Chatham Co. 40 acres Grant # 1045 Issued 16 Nov 1790 Entry # 180 Entered 6 Oct 1788 Book # 77 Page # 97 Chainmen: William Pilkinton & James Davis An Island in Haw River... Ig # 1246 Chatham Co. 100 acres Grant # 1151 Issued 7 Jul 1794 Entry # 273 Entered 12 May 1789 Book # 82 Page # 354 Chainmen: John Meacham & Nat Brewer Both sides of Terrells Creek beginning on Wm. Meacham's line... Ig # 1115 Chatham Co. 20 acres Grant # 1015 Issued 16 Nov 1790 Entry # 184 Entered 14 Nov 1788 Book # 77 Page # 88 Chainmen: Richard West & James Mutin On the waters of Dry Creek... James Henderson's line... Ig # 1135 Chatham Co. 30 acres Grant # 1035 Issued 16 Nov 1790 Entry # 204 Entered 6 Mar 1789 Book # 77 Page # 94 Chainmen: William Pilkinton & James Davis On Haw River (an Island known as "Big Island")... Ig # 1039 Chatham Co. 75 acres Grant # 963 Issued 26 Nov 1789 Entry # 77 Entered 27 Oct 1787 Book # 71 Page # 358 Chainmen: Henry Brewer & Nathaniel Brewer On the waters of Dry Creek...
I Thomas West of the county of Chatham, farmer, do hereby make my last will and testament, revolking all others heretofore made. In the first place I appoint Jesse West my second son and Joseph Meacham, my son in law from the reliance I have in their integrity my executors to execute and carry into effect this my will. Secondly I leave and bequeath to my said executors Jesse and Joseph all my Estate real and personal forever, liable to the trust now declared in this my will, it being my principal object and desire to provide for my wife, should she outlive me, during her life comfortably and that at her death all my Estate should be equally divided among my 12 children or the representatives of such that may be deceased at my death. Therefore appoint my said executors, trustees to divide my estate as follows to wit: that my whole Estate should be appropriated so as to afford a comfortable support to my wife during her life, and at her death either by sale division in lots or otherwise at the descretion of my said Executors to be divided into twelve equal parts, that my said executors shall deliver to such of my sons their shares and shall so settle on each of my daughters and their lawful heirs their respective shares in such manner so that their respective husbands shall have controll over said distributive shares and that it shall not be used for debts or contracts unless he gives sufficient security for the same to be appropriated to the support of my said daughters and their issue, agreeable to the true intent and measure of this my will before the said division should be so made I trust my said Executors after paying all my lawful debts and funeral expenses do retain (one hundred?) fifty dollars as a small consideration for their services and trouble. And I declare this my last will being on my (perfect time?). this 28th. day of Feruary 1807 as witnessed my hand and seal in presence of us being first called on the testator to witness the same. Ed Jones Thomas West, Jr. Elisa Comerford Mary E. Jones Chatham County The within will was duly proved in open court in the February term 1822 by Edward Jones a subscribing witness thereto and ordered to be recorded whereupon Jesse West one of the Executors therein named appeared in Court and was duly qualified and the same was recorded in Book B page 49 and 50. Test. Thomas Ragland CCC Thomas West, Jr. (Power of Attorney) Deed Book S, page 306 & 307 Chatham Co., NC as copied by John G. West, 4 Aug 1981 (NC Archives, Raliegh, NC) Know all men by these presents that I Thomas West of the County of Chatham in the State of North Carolina, farmer, having an intention of removing to the Western Country and being possessed of land in the said County in fee simple and also of diverse Chattel property which I cannot now satisfactorily dispose of I therefore hereby empower my truly and well beloved son Jesse West of said County and State my true and lawful attorney for me and in my name to dispose of for my use and benefit all my property real and personal which I shall have undisposed of when I remove and particularly my land on dry Creek supposed to contain about 225 acres adjoining Mrs. Lutterloh's and Edward Jones'z which land I bought of Zachariah Martin and also 100 acres of land adjoining other lands of Edward Jones which I purchased from the state agreeable to my grant for the same. And I hereby empower my said attorney to dispose of the same and to give bills of sale, assurances, covenants and a deed or deeds in fee simple in my name or such other conveyance or conveyances as may be requisite to pass my interest in the same to the purchaser thereof with a special warranty and covenant of warranty for a good and sufficient title to the same against all persons, but the heirs of the Earl of Granville - And I hereby acknowledge all the acts and deeds of my attorney aforesaid which he shall or may lawfully do in the promises to be my act and binding on me and my heirs my executor and adm. As witnessed my hand and seal this _____ day of _______ in the year 1809. In presence of Thomas West [seal] Charles Lutterloh Feb. Session 1813 Power of Attorney duly proven in open Court by oath of Chas. Lutterloh. Registered Thomas Ragland C.C. From an e-mail message I sent to Ben West 25 Mar 2001: I did realize my lack of zeroing in on a more accurate estimate of birth year for Thomas West, Jr. (1744 or earlier) and until just a few days ago, I had not thought too much about the 1760 date of John Hall's will. That fact makes the likelihood of Lucy being Thomas West, Jr's wife a lot lower (assuming the Lucy that is mentioned in the land transation as wife of Thomas West - is the Lucy West mentioned in John Hall's Will)!!! Deed Book A, Pp. 337, 338 & 339 Chatham Co., NC as copied [including misspelling and capitalization and puncuation] by John G. West 4 Aug 1981 North Carolina Archives, Raleigh, NC. Indenture 9 Aug 1774 between Thomas West and Lucey his wife of Chatham first part Charles Stuart of same county. Witnessed that said Thomas West and lucy his wife for 53 pounds, 6 shillings and 8 pence lying in the county aforesaid on the branches of Robertsons Creek beginning at a post oak & hicory on the path side leading from the meeting house to David Banks thence south west wise on the ___?_____ line to a Black Jack thence nearly north on a line of marked trees to hicory thence coming along a line of Marked Trees nearly east to the creek then corner'g on the south side of the said Creek on an Elmm thence with the said Creek to a willow Oak on the North north side of the said creek near the mouth of Sal. Mashes Spring branch from thence nearly east course along a line of marked trees to the old line from thence along said line to the first station containing by estimation 190 acres being part of a survey taken up by Samuel Mash. Signed by Thomas West (seal) Lucy West (seal) The above property was bought in two parts from two different parties. D.B. 2, p. 555 Orange Co., NC as copied (but summarized to save time for now) by John G. West 4 Aug 1981 in Archives as stated above. 13 Mar 1769, from James & Judith George of Orange Co. to Thomas West, planter, of same county. 90 acres on Robertson Creek with most of the same metes & bounds as listed above. D.B. 2, p. 556 Orange Co., NC as copied (but summarized to save time for now) by John G. West 4 Aug 1981 in Archives as stated above. 13 Mar 1769, from William & Elizabeth Willkey to Thomas West lying in the County of Orange about 100 acres on Robertson Creek with the rest of the metes and bounds as stated in the first indenture of 1774. The two together make up the 190 acres bought in 1769 and sold in 1774. There are several deeds for a Thomas West from 1750's to 1800 (rough estimate of time span). Only one lists a spouse (the 1774 Indenture only!). So, which one is this? Sr., Jr. or mystery 3rd. Thomas? I will send you other Indentures and recorded documents for these two (3) men as I have time. JGW From CHATHAM COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK A, pp. 134-135, Chatham County Register of Deeds, Courthouse Annex, 12 East Street, Pittsboro, North Carolina 27312: pp. 134-135 This Indenture made this first day of may in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy two Between John Pilkenton Sen of Chatham County in the province of North Carolina of the one part and Thomas West Jun of the County and province afs’d. of of the other part Witnesseth that the said John Pilkenton for & in Consideration of the some of five pounds proclamation money to him in hand paid by the s’d. Thomas West at or before the sealing and Delivering hereof the the Receipt whereof the s’d. John Pilkenton doth hereby acknowledge hath granted Bargained and sold attained Released and Confirmed and by these Presents doth grant Bargain and sell allein releas and Confirm unto the said Thomas West his Heirs and assigns forever a tract or parcell of Land situate Lying and being in the County aforesaid Containing by Estimation fifty acres of Land be the same more or Less and Bounded as follows, begining at a turkey oak standing at the Lower end of an Island in Haw River thence Running up the said River on each side the said Island to the uper end Including the whole Island also the Reversion and Reversions Remainder and Remainders Rents and Services thereof and also all the Estate Right title Intrest property and demand whatsoever of him the said John Pilkenton of in and to the s’d. tract or parcell of Land and premises and of in and to every part and parcell thereof to Have and to Hold the s’d. tract of Land and Premises above mentioned with the appurtenances thereof to Thomas West his heirs and assigns to the only proper use and behoof of him the s’d. Thomas West his Heirs E’xors admtors and assigns that the said John Pilkenton. the s’d. tract of Land & premises hereby Granted and every part and parcell thereof against him and his Heirs and against all and every other person or persons by and from or under him or them to the s’d. Thomas West his Heirs and assigns shall and will warrent and for ever defend by these presents in Witness whereof the said John Pilkenton hath hereunto set his hand and seal the day and year first above Written John Pilkinton (*Seal*) Signed and Delivered in presence his her Test Ignasies West Christopher K Ball Sarah X Pilkinton (*Seal*) mark mark Chatham County }? November Court 1772 Then the above? deed? was in open Court duly Proved by the oath of Ignasies West a Subscribing Witness and Ordered to be Registered
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Categories: North Carolina West Research Ben West has transcribed the Granville Co., NC Tax Lists from 1753 thru 1765 (a few years are missing). I wanted to make comment about this information and hope to get others involved with some research and discussion of this information: WE HAD PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT... Richard was the oldest son born 1739 or earlier, while Thomas was the next son born 1744 or earlier. Now, these earlier tax lists seem to indicate that Thomas was born 1738 or earlier and may be the oldest son! In 1758 is Thomas West [Junior] the constable? How old would he need to be to be a constable in 1758? At least 16, 18, 20 or 21? If 21 years old, Thomas (the 1758 constable) had to be born 1737 or earlier! But by 1760 and 1761, we see Tom Jr. listed with his father again - WITH A THIRD Thomas West listed - who is he? Then to make all even more confusing, 1762 only lists two Thomas West (father & son) with the father as constable this time! CAN ANYONE SUGGEST WHAT MAY BE THE STORY HERE? - JGW Research Performed by Benjamin Milton West March 10 - 15, 2003 in North Carolina August 2002 in Birmingham, Alabama From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1753, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: list of Tythables for the Year 1753 Taken by William Person John Files? [Fikes?] 1 From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1754, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: Granville } A List of Taxables for the Year County } 1754 taken by the Subscriber A List of Tythables Taken by John Martin Esq:r for the year 1754 Thomas West & son Thomas 2 whites, 2 total From GRANVILLE COUNTY SCH, A LIST OF TAXABLES FOR THE YEAR 1755 transcribed by Susan Martucci: [Internet Source] http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgranvi/other/1755tax.htm, a transcribed/text version of the Granville 1755 Tax List taken from the 1955 journal The North Carolinian William Perry Johnson, Editor. Submitted by Susan Martucci (Accessed May 24, 2003): Thomas West & Son Richard, 2-0-2 From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1757, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: A List of Tithables taken by John Martin for the year 1757 Thomas West. Son Richard and Thos. West. } . . . 3 From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1758, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: A List of Tythes taken by John Martin for the year 1758 Thos. West . . . Constable . . . Thomas West Senr } 2 & Son Richard } From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1759, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: Allso the List of delinqts for the year 1759 West Thomas. ________1 West John.___________1 West Fras. __________1 From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1760, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: A list of Tythables taken by Thos Person for the year 1760 Thos. West } & son Thos West Jr } 2 Richard West 1 Thos. West 1 From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1761, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: 1761. The List of Taxables for Bare Swamp District Taken pr.? me. Solo. Alston Richard West . . . 1 Thos. West & Son Thos. 1
Thomas Jones, Constable List, for the year 1761 Thomas West From GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LISTS FOR 1762, North Carolina State Archives, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina, 27601-2807: List of Taxables for Bare swamp District [1762] Thos. West Const. & } 1 white, 1 total Son Thos. } References
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