"I was brought up in Eastern Germany. We left in '33. I came to America in early '39. I met Reich through a Socialist friend of mine who was his laboratory assistant, whom I had met in Paris through our contact with the Socialist student, and met Reich through her, September, October '39. I was working here…in Paris, I worked for the American Joint Distribution Committee, and when I came here, I started to work for the Allied Jewish Appeal as a file clerk, which was a dreadful thing, absolutely dreadful, but I knew everyone, I was glad to find some work, and it paid fairly well. Then when Reich offered that I work with him…he needed some help as a secretary and in the lab, so I very gladly accepted that and started to work in the lab. I did all the bookkeeping and all the administrative work, and then I went to the lab assistant‟s school, in N.Y. to get a little bit more of the traditional lab background, traditional lab techniques. Then I kept on working with Reich fourteen years."