WeRelate talk:Person & Family page patrol


Cleanup request template [15 October 2012]

I'm going to go ahead and throw my name in since I tend to lurk in recent changes and make these kind of changes anyway :-)

Over on the Source Patrol page, Mike and I were discussing what to do on issues that require work from the user, and it seems to me this is also an issue on family/person pages - a page needs a particular type of work, but it's beyond the time/knowledge of the volunteer. So I modified this template from Wikipedia. Mike pointed out that there's also the similar this template for sources, but it's generally used judiciously because otherwise it could go on maybe 90% of pages :-) It makes sense to get some consensus on these before we use them, so thought I'd bring them over here.--Amelia 16:29, 26 August 2012 (EDT)

I'm wondering - would it be better to add a template to pages that were in need of work, or leave a message on the user's talk page, perhaps also showing them by example how to clean up the page, so they would learn how to contribute better in the future? Maybe leave a message along the lines of: "this page (link) had this problem, and I fixed it by doing this. Feel free to reply to this message if you have any questions"?--Dallan 16:15, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
Dallan, that's a lovely idea, but a couple things. First, I anticipate using the template mainly when I can't clean up because the information or background knowledge is in the hands of the original poster and/or others familiar with that person/family. Second, If I can clean up the page fast, I will, and I make sure watchers get an email by not hitting minor edit and using the summary field, but the overt teaching you suggest would take 2x-3x the time. I am the only person doing this duty, and I only have brief snippets of time to get a look at recent changes as it is.--Amelia 21:03, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Standard for peerage titles [3 November 2012]

Hey, guys: I've generally not gotten involved in uploading individuals in the British peeerage (not medieval -- these are 19th & 20th century) because, frankly, I didn't want to get into arguments with the afficianados over there, . . . but I've just finished reading To Marry an English Lord (good book) and I've worked up a dataset of ~200 people that I'm about to upload. But I was doing some preliminary checking of what's already on WR, and I'm finding a great many titled people where the title has been included in the Person Page title ("James Innes-Ker, 7th Duke of Roxburgh"). There are also quite a few where the spouse is listed by her married name + title, which obviously doesn't conform to WR standard.

I've checked the Style Guide and the Name portal and all that, but I'm not finding an explicit discussion of how all this stuff should be handled. I'll add that I was having trouble even getting useful search results for some of these people because of weird Person Page titles and I had to sneak up on them by following links from their relatives, which is not a good thing.

My own opinion is that peerage titles ought not to be included in the page title, partly because it doesn't conform to the pattern for us ordinary people, and partly because such a person was almost never born with a title, and also had different (subordinate) titles earlier in life. And putting "James Innes-Ker" under that name alone will not prevent a successful search on "7th Duke of Roxburgh" anyway. But perhaps I'm being too logical. Perhaps the Person page patrol has some thoughts and opinions on this? I don't want to start "correcting" all those pages wholesale if a decision has aleady been made or some accommodation reached. --MikeTalk 07:03, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Hi Mike, you might want to check out a current discussion about this topic on Klaas' talk page here and here --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:08, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

May I volunteer [13 November 2013]

I have recently been able to spend more time at WeRelate and am feeling much more confident that I can contribute in a practical way.--Wongers 12:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Great, we'd really appreciate your help! I'll add your name to the list of volunteers. There are basic instructions on the main project page. We primarily check new users' pages for things like date format, place links, marking living people for Speedy Delete, checking for pages that have multiple name variations in the title (like one I spotted this morning, Family:Abel Pomroy / Pomeroy and Catherine Butler (1)). Sometimes, I'll find a new user creates pages for multiple children, but doesn't link any of them to a parent page. These are general things to look for, if you have any specific questions, or if you suggest edits to the project page instructions, just let me know! Thanks again, --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:48, 13 November 2013 (UTC)