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If you need any help, I will be glad to answer your questions. Just click on my signature link below and then click on the “Leave a message” link under my name in the upper left corner of my profile page. Thanks for participating and see you around! Debbie Freeman --DFree 21:51, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
Next step: Review your GEDCOM [11 April 2011]
You're not done yet!
WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.
Now that you have uploaded jas.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.
Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.
Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.
About your uploaded GEDCOM [11 April 2011]
Hello and welcome to WeRelate. Thank you for submitting your gedcom file. I am a volunteer administrator here at WeRelate.
Since I see that you are new here, I took a preliminary look at the file for you. I am afraid that there are too many problems with your information and we will not be able to accept your GEDCOM.
We will not be able to use this file. WeRelate is a single, shared database with a single web page created for each person and each family, and a strong emphasis on providing quality source information, and focused on provable lineages to the present.
However, we do encourage you to work on your data and submit a new file with more complete information. You may like to browse the existing pages and try creating a few by hand to get familiar with how WeRelate works. A list of recent featured pages is available from the WeRelate home page (www.werelate.org). These will provide some examples of what is possible.
Please review the videos and tutorials and get familiar with WeRelate.
If we do not hear from you, your file will be considered abandoned and will be removed by 30 April 2011.
If you have any questions about your gedcom, you can reply here. I will be watching.
Jillaine 19:59, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
Photos from Find A Grave [3 May 2011]
Hello, I am a volunteer administrator here on WeRelate. I noticed that you have added photos from Find A Grave. Photos from Find A Grave are not public domain. Unless there is clear indication on the image page that you either took the photograph or have permission from the copyright owner to use it on WeRelate (including agreeing to WeRelate's licensing), it will need to be deleted. Please see our policy here.
The best way to include those types of images is to link to the memorial page. For example, on the page for Eliza Brewster, you could enter this in the text area: Photo of Eliza's tombstone on [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61895515 FindAGrave.com]. The link would look like this:
Photo of Eliza's tombstone on FindAGrave.com
Please let me know if you have any questions. --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:37, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
My sincere apologies. I have a large file of photographs, many personal and many saved from online sources that I (unfortunately) neglected to keep careful track of. I have reviewed werelate's image policies and I will go through the images I've uploaded and review them as soon as I possibly can get to all of them. Is there an way to view a list of all of the photo pages that I've created to simplify the task?--New.incarnation 12:43, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
Person/Family page titles [30 April 2011]
Hello, I am a volunteer admin here at WeRelate. I noticed that you recently created Person and/or Family pages (for example Family:Andrew Collins and Martha (Tanner ?) (1)). Please be aware that pages should be titled in the form FirstName LastName which follows our Naming conventions.
Let me know if you need any help renaming your pages to follow this format. Thank you, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:37, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
Pages for living people [18 May 2011]
I noticed that you have created pages for people who are likely still living (for example: this person and this person). WeRelate's policy does not allow the creation of pages for living people due to privacy concerns. Please delete your pages for living people by clicking on More>Delete from the menu on the left. Thank you for your understanding. --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:46, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
Thanks for the heads up. And again, please forgive the disaster I'm apparently leaving in my wake. Corrections will be made.--New.incarnation 12:45, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
I had a little time this morning, so I went ahead and deleted my living relatives as requested. Again, thanks for the heads up.--New.incarnation 11:23, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
Info on John J. Smith family [20 July 2012]
I would like to swap info with you on John J. and Katie Smith. Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org--Ricky1 08:18, 5 February 2012 (EST)
I would love any and all information you might be able to share. I believe everything I have regarding that family is posted. I hit a dead end at one point and never found my way back to it. I'm descended from them through their daughter Dora. Also feel free to contact me at email@example.com--New.incarnation 01:30, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
Greetings! [10 February 2013]
Great to see someone else in the spaces of antiquity!
I see you're generally trying to follow such conventions as may exist, which are few in this area, so thanks are most definitely in order.
I've started work on a more formal statement of naming conventions, and would appreciate your reaction(s). It's highly preliminary. Find it on this page.
Best Regards... --jrm03063 14:29, 10 February 2013 (EST)
GEDCOM Export Ready [5 May 2013]
The GEDCOM for tree NEW INCARNATION is ready to download..
Changes to pages [11 May 2013]
Hi. It is great to see someone else editing pages I have worked on. Sometimes it starts to feel a little lonely out here.
If I may make one suggestion -- if a fact has a source attached to it, it is not a good idea to change the fact while leaving the pre-existing source as a citation for the new fact. This implies that the source is being cited for the (changed) fact, which is not the case. I am probably not expressing this well, so I will give an example. If you have a source with a different or more specific birth date than that given on Werelate, by all means enter it (either in an alt birth date space, or in the main space and move the other birth date to an alt birth date). What you should not do is replace the old birth date with another while leaving the old source as the citation. This would imply that the source is supporting your new birth date, which it is not.
One example that I had in mind was this page, where the source does not support the newly changed birth date. (I fixed the link to the source. My previous link was a bit messed up. I hope that didn't throw you off.) Ormerod just states that William was 23 at the time of his father's IPM. I think the best thing would be to keep Ormerod as an alternate birth date, and give your source as a citation for your new birth date.
Another example was this page, where you changed the "f." in the alt name space to "verch". "Verch", or "ferch", is naturally what "f." was short for, but "f." is what is given in Bartram, which is cited as a source for this fact. (I noticed another error of mine here, in that Bartram gives "Celeinion f. Tudwal", but I wrote "Celenion". It makes me wonder about my accuracy when both of the pages I am nitpicking about here contain errors of my own....)
I hope I am not coming across as negative here. I am happy that someone is working on the same pages as me, I am under no illusion that my work has been error-free, and I am sure the vast majority of your changes are for the better.
If I may ask one more question: You changed Iweryd verch Cynfyn's husband from that given by Cawley, which is still the only source given on the page, to a new one. Do you have a source to support this change?--Werebear 15:48, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
Eek. I am so sorry. That certainly isn't my general mode of operation. I'm sure I saw the "ABT" without noticing the source attached, assumed it was a genealogist's placeholder guesstimate and replaced it with what I supposed to be an actual date.
As far as Troutbeck specifically: I'm copying from my decade-plus old handwritten notes and I honestly can't recall where that date came from. He's buried in Troutbeck Chapel at St. Mary on the Hill in Chester. There's a memorial to him there and I could have gleaned the date from that, but there's no telling. In that light, Ormerod would tend to take precedence.
The lion's share of the changes I made to the Welsh pages last night were merges of multiple obvious duplicates (we clearly don't need four Rhodri Mawrs) and just general "cleaning up" of the names that linked into my lines as I ran across them (i.e. separating the fore and sur names, un-capitalizing ap/ab slash verch/ferch and pasting the titles in the suffix field). Hopefully I didn't screw too much up.
The Iweryd verch Cynfyn issue is clearly a mistake. Thank you for catching it. There are two people merged that shouldn't be. I'll try to rectify the issue as soon as possible.
All that aside, pleased to make your acquaintance, werebear :)--New.incarnation 23:56, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
Okay. I think I straightened out the aforementioned Iweryd issue as per Cawley.--New.incarnation 13:17, 11 May 2013 (EDT)
John J. and Katie Smith family [12 May 2013]
On your John J. Smith family, I'm pretty sure that his wife's name was Katie Walters, not Pierce. Can you tell me where the name Pierce was found? Also, I've never been able to find an exact date of death for John J. Smith. Where did you find it?--Ricky1 09:05, 12 May 2013 (EDT)