User talk:Heatherb.1950

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Error in editing? [23 November 2014]

I notice that you updated Person:Thomas White (24) and accidentally left him without facts and unconnected from his family page (and thus his children). I plan to revert the page to what it was before today, but I just wanted to check first and make sure that you weren't in the middle of something that would affect his page. Please let me know. If I don't hear back in a day or so, I will revert his page (before I forget). Thanks--DataAnalyst 23:35, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello....I was so worried about that...so glad you can restore it. I didn't mean to it. I accidently selected a Thomas White that is not my connection & I couldn't delete him so I started deleted his information then realized that wasn't going to work. I thought that the information would stay on the site but not show on my page.

How do you delete a person please? I see some of the time there is a "delete" option in the side bar under "more" but I can never see it when I have the person up that I want to delete.

So sorry & just so glad you could fix it

Thanks Heather--Heatherb.1950 05:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

You can only delete a page if you are the only one watching it - that is, (usually) if you created it and no one else has expressed an interest in it.

WeRelate does not give you personal views of any pages - there is only one page per person and everyone sees the same thing. So if you remove info, you remove it from the site. Luckily, all history is kept (unless you completely delete a page, and I think there are even logs of those). So if you accidentally remove information, it can be retrieved.

I will restore the Thomas White page. If you run into this kind of trouble again, don't hesitate to ask for help. I found that it takes a bit of getting used to the site to feel confident about fixing problems. Hope you stick around long enough to get used to things. Take care.--DataAnalyst 02:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me on that. Yes it does take a bit of getting used to...completely different to other programs.

The other issue is that there are two of us watching 3 people & we have figured it out that my Jessie Matilda & her parents, Mary Jane & Thomas Everett Scott are not his Jessie Matilda, Mary Jane & Thomas Everett Scott & he has them linked Jessie to another person which links her parents as well.

We have discussed this by email & he agrees that his Jessie is from a different family all together. We don't know how to fix it - Does just "Unwatch" them to disassociate from them?? Then how does he delete her parents as he would probably just change is record of Jessie as that is the name of his rello...is that right??

Really appreciate your help :)--Heatherb.1950 05:10, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Unwatching won't help - the pages will need to be fixed. I'm shutting down for the night, but can take a look on the weekend.--DataAnalyst 03:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Heather - you're going to have to explain the problem to me. What I see is Jessie Matilda Scott, daughter of Thomas Everett Scott and Mary Jane Fullerton. Who is the other Jessie, and who are her parents?--DataAnalyst 13:02, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Good morning

I see that Leroy is not watching Jessie Matilda Mullens nee Scott anymore. Did you change that or did Leroy "unwatch" her. What ever was changed it is correct now...thank you. But Leroy is still shown as "watching" Jessie's parents Mary Jane Scott nee Fullerton & Thomas Everett Scott. Is there a way to correct this too as I have discussed this with him & he agrees that he picked up the wrong Jessie which means he is still "watching" her parents when then is no connection to his tree

Hope all that makes sense

The first time I seen Leroy's name there I thought, wow I had found a relative doing the same tree/research, but was disappointed when we made contact only to find the error.

Thanks Heather--Heatherb.1950 20:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Leroy must have been the one who "unwatched" Jessie's page. No one else (except possibly an administrator) can do that for you.

I think you might misunderstand the purpose of watching a page. Its only purpose is so that you get notified if someone changes the page. It does not affect what you see in WeRelate - in WeRelate, everyone sees exactly the same thing.

There are only 2 things you can do to personalize WeRelate (that is, make your experience different from anyone else's). You can choose which pages to watch (which does not affect what you see, but only when you get notified), and you can use Family Tree Explorer to personalize how you navigate through WeRelate. I assume from your comments that you are using Family Tree Explorer (which is optional, but allows you to create one or more family trees and define which pages to include in each).

When you use Family Tree Explorer (FTE), all it does is keep track of which pages are in a particular tree you have defined. You then use FTE to navigate through WeRelate, but what you see (on the right-hand side of the screen) is exactly what everyone else sees. So if you created a page with birth, death and marriage info, and someone added a will and probate dates, you will also see the will and probate information. You don't want to remove that information (unless, of course, you determine that it is wrong), because it was important to someone else. Think of the split screen you get when you use FTE as "your" tree on the left, and a shared public view on the right.

When you add a page to your personal tree in FTE, WeRelate automatically sets you as a watcher of the page. On the other hand, if you remove a page from your tree in FTE, WeRelate does not change your watching status - you will still be watching the page until you explicitly unwatch it. So if Leroy is also using FTE, he may have removed "your" Jessie and her parents from his tree in FTE, but he might still be watching the pages, without even realizing it. It won't make a difference to him until you change the pages and he gets notified. Note also that you can only delete pages if no one else is watching them, so if he continues to watch some of the pages you created, it will prevent you from deleting them. No biggie - if you need to delete the pages, you can tag them for delete and an administrator will delete them.

People can end up watching pages for all sorts of reasons. I have sometimes updated pages not related to my own family, to clarify the distinction between them and the people in my family tree. As a volunteer, I have also merged duplicates and made other corrections and additions to pages not related to me. By default, when you edit a page, you end up as a watcher (which I usually keep for a time, so that I get notified if someone notices that I accidentally made a "correction" that turned out to be wrong).

BTW: While I do not use FTE much because I find it too slow, it does have the advantage of allowing you to share "your" tree (just the pages you are interested in) with someone else, and then they can easily watch all the pages in that tree (I forget exactly what the recipient has to do, but it works quite well).

I realize this is a bit long-winded, but I hope it helps you understand WeRelate a bit better. Good luck, and thanks for sharing your data here.--DataAnalyst 22:38, 23 November 2014 (UTC)