Québec Place Name Reorganization [24 October 2008]
This is my basic plan for reorganizing the Place pages for the Province of Québec. For genealogical purposes, it is most useful to use the years 1895-1911 as a general guideline when titling the Place pages for Québec. There are a number of excellent resources (listed below) that I will utilize to determine the specific location of a village, parish, or county.
Comté (County) Pages
Canton (Township) Pages
Village/Parish Pages Each bullet below will be addressed in stages
Current Place Names and Locations
This is terrific! People will find this incredibly useful. I'd like to feature this project next week to see if we can get some others to help.
The only thing I'd suggest is to keep the coordinates for counties as very approximately near the center of the county. This allows events, where the place of the event is just the county, to appear on pedigree-maps and on little maps I'm planning to add to each person and family page.
You're probably already aware of http://www.werelate.org/placelist/Canada.html and http://www.werelate.org/placealpha/Canada.html . They might be useful to you. These pages are re-generated each day. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.--Dallan 11:17, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
Small additions, Nov 2012 [1 November 2012]
I have added three other "names" for Quebec. The first two, Lower Canada and Canada East were used by the English-speaking administrations within Quebec, in other parts of British North America of the time, and in Great Britain. The terms were used from 1792 to 1841 and from 1841 to 1867 respectively. I have found references in People listings in pre-confederation (1867) Ontario. Most Canadians still recognize these place names.
The third one is "Quebec" as opposed to the French "Québec". If you type "Quebec" in the Contained In box when doing a place search, "Québec, Canada", the province, does not come up. One cannot use the cut-and-paste solution if there is nothing to cut, i.e., Québec isn't on the page if you are searching for it. --goldenoldie 16:54, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
Suggested modification, [30 December 2012]
In the province of Québec, since the adoption of the Lower Canada Municipal & Road Act of 1855 there is only two levels of municipal institution: the county and the town (or village or township or parish or municipality). So, places in Québec should all have a four levels name: village, county, Québec, Canada (ex., Neuville, Portneuf, Québec, Canada). Town, parish, township, municipality and village are all at the same institionnal level.
Before 1840, there was no municipal institution in Lower Canada. From 1840 to 1855, there have been several laws which created, abolished and recreated towns and counties corporations. The town and country institutions are stable since 1855, except that the counties have been replaced par Regional county municipality in 1979, as stated above. --User:Dsavard
Disambiguating "Québec (ville)" and "Québec (région)" [8 January 2013]
1. "Quebec city" should be renamed 'Ville de Québec" or "Québec (ville)" since it's a french place.
2. "Québec" (Type=Region) should be renamed "Région de Québec" or "Québec (région)" to distinguish it from the city and the province.
Does someone have a source for the pre-1979 county structure of Québec Province? The source from about 1940 I was hoping would have a list turned out just to have an assertion that there were 76 counties. --Pkeegstra 06:52, 8 January 2013 (EST)
Duplicate place pages [2 January 2013]
I see that a few duplicate place pages have been created. Place:Château-Richer, Côte-de-Beaupré, Québec, Canada/Place:Château-Richer, Montmorency No 1, Québec, Canada; Place:L'Ange-Gardien, Côte-de-Beaupré, Québec, Canada/Place:L'Ange-Gardien, Montmorency No 1, Québec, Canada. Côte-de-Beaupré is listed as a Regional county municipality. The Regional county municipalities came into existence in 1979 so, according to WeRelate's "1900 rule", place hierarchies would not use that structure. --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:26, 31 December 2012 (EST)