Person:Thurstan De Holande (1)

Sir Thurstan de Holland (the second) was born under Edward I, and lived into the reign of Edward III, founded the line of Hollands of Denton and their branch of Clifton. Thurstan de Holland first married the daughterof Adam de Kellet, through whom the Hollands acquired manors in north Lancashire, as Lonsdale, Furness, and Chartmel. By this wife he had five sons, Robert, William, Richard, Roger, Adam, and a daughter Margaret. Thurstan next married Juliana, a daughter of John Gellibrand, and had four more sons, Thurstan, Adam, Elias, and Simon. He married thirdly a daughter of Henry de Hale, an illegitimate son of Richard de Meath, Lord of Hale. An old Norman-French petition from the 'loyal tenants of Hale' states that as Henry de Hale lay dying 'came one Thurstan de Holland, who had married the daughter of said Henry and as he lay at the point of death [come il launguist a la mort] his memory lost, the said Thurstan took the said Henry's seal which he had round his neck, and made use of the seal to issue charters granting the said manor of Hale to himself, the said Thurstan, and Robert his son.' He put out some old tenants and introduced new ones, which, perhaps accounts for the allegation. This accusation may not have been true, but evidently Thurstan de Holland was one of those vigorous, driven men who, by local efforts and marriages, founded families. He lived long and is described as Sir Thurstan deHolland in witnessing a charter to Stanlaw Abby in 1272. (Researcher -Jasper Land Holland, II) ==========================================================

....England, and died 1275. He was the son of 72. Robert de Holand and 73. Cecily de Columbers. 37. Unknown de Kellet was born Bet. 1206-1207 in Over Kellet, Bolton-Le-Sands, Lancashire, England. She was the daughter of 74. Adam de Kellet. Child of Unknown de Kellet and Thurstan de Holand is: 18. i. Robert de Holand was born Abt. 1241 in Upholand, Lancashire, England, and died Abt. 1311 in Lancashire, England. He married Elizabeth de Salmesbury Bef. 1276, daughter of William de Salmesbury and Avina de Notton. She was born 1256 in Salmesbury, Lancashire, England, and died After 1311.

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1. ↑ The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ancestral File (R)AFN: QW26-G2. (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998).
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3. ↑ Holland, Bernard Henry. The Lancashire Hollands. (London: J. Murray, 1917)
   pages 313 and 314.

   "It is, however, alleged by reputable authorities that this Roger [Hoesgyn] was the great-grandson of a Sir Thomas Holland who married Joyce daughter of Sir Jasper Croft, and lived in the reign of Edward I. This Sir Thomas was alleged to be a son of the first Sir Thurstan Holland of Upholland, and therefore brother of Sir Robert Holland, father of Robert, first Lord Holland. The name of such a Thomas does not occur in the Lancashire records, but it is perhaps not enough to prove his non-existence. Thurstan had, however, a son named Roger, but nothing is known of him, or any descendants of his. Roger may possibly have gone to Wales."

4.   Holland, Sir Thomas Erskine. Holland Family in Wales, in Cambrian Archaeological Association (London). Archaeologia cambrensis: a record of the antiquities of Wales and its marches, and the journal of the Cambrian Archaeological Association. (London: W. Pickering, 1846-)
   3rd Series Volume 13, page 164.

   This Sir Thomas was, according the best authorities, brother to Sir Robert Holland, Knt., who is said to have been the father of Robert Lord Holland, the progenitor of the Dukes of Exeter and Surrey. (See, in the Heralds' College, -- Prothero MSS.-- The Fifteen Tribes of N. Wales, p. 164; Advenae of Carnarvon, p. 74; Vincent MS. 135, p. 85; in the Brit. Mus. Harl. MSS., 1468, p. 50; 1500, p. 46)
   The difficulties which beset the account of this Sir Thomas Holland given by Pennant (vol. ii, p. 730), and partly countenanced by the pedigrees in Lewis Dwnn, are pointed out by Sir S. Meyrick in his notes to the latter, and by Randall Holme in Harl. MS. 1971.

5.   Farrer, William, and John Brownbill. The Victoria history of the county of Lancaster. (London: A. Constable, 1906-1914)
   Volume 4, sub Upholland.

   "Thurstan is said to have married a daughter of Adam de Kellet; eventually the lordship of Nether Kellet descended to his heirs by this wife. He also acquired lands in Hale, and large grants in Makerfield."