Person:Maria Engel (2)

MARY ANNA ENGEL THON HARTMANN (1834-1910)

The birthplace for Anne Marie Engel is listed as Elsuthlung, Germany, but I note her ancestry is in the Alsace region of France, and the name of Kientzheim, a village north of Colmar, south of Strasbourg, is listed as a birthplace for her mother. No doubt you have all that data... but I can't find Elsuthlung and wonder if it is somehow a corruption of the German Elsass, the name for Alsace in that language.

A significant amount of the genealogy data for her was provided by Mike Engel in 2004. He has posted the data on a RootsWeb website, which incorporates data I gave him as well. Updated: 2004-06-22 23:43:01 UTC (Tue) Contact: Mike Engel dejeme@@juno.com

Note: Came to U.S. 1850

Crown Point Register, March 17, 1910

The death of Mrs. Mary Hartman occurred at her home in the northpart of the town on Monday night, after a long illness. She was one of the pioneers of Crown Point having been a resident herefor nearly 50 years. Mrs. Hartman was born Elsutheung, Germany, May 1834, and came to America in 1850. She was married to Adam Thon in 1851, who died five years later. Two years later she wed Michael Hartman, who died eleven years ago. She is survived by thirty-nine grandchildren and nineteen great grandchildren.The children of her first marriage surviving her are George Thon, Mrs. Peter Wolf, and Mrs. Walter Ribicki, all of this city. The children of her second marriage who are living, are Jacob Hartman, Hammond; Mrs. Clara Erlenbach, Hammond; John Hartman, Hammond; Louis Hartman, Merrillville; Joseph Hartman,Chicago; Mrs. John Wehner, Crown Point and Mrs. L. Diott Detroit. The funeral services were held at St. Mary's Church this morning at 9 o'clock, and were largely attended.

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My Grandmother Mary was such a marvelous lady. I loved her dearly, and spent many vacations with her. Her home was so artistic, and she surely was more "French" than German. Her house and her lovely garden spoke of her good taste.

Crandma's garden was on the south side of the house, and to stroll through it was a grand experience. There was a huge bed of Lily of the Valley underneath the shady corner of the house. There was a lovely grape arbor with luscious clusters of grapes ready to be picked. The vegetable garden was small, but neatly located in the center. And the whole area was fenced in, with a gravel path all around the vegetable garden, and with raised flower beds above the paths.

On the north side of the house was a huge expanse of lawn, with the largest, most gorgeous crabapple tree I ever saw. It was under this tree that the family always gathered for a picnic on Grandma's birthday. Attending would be all her married children with their families, her sister from Chicago (my second Aunt Sophia Sauter), and many friends. Pictures were always taken of the group. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get one of Grandma, not even a snapshot.

As a small child, it was always an exciting occasion to be going to her house, as my Aunt Minn and Uncle John still lived at home, and they made my visit doubly attractive. Aunt Minn will always be remembered by me for showing and teaching me how to embroider. She drew me a lilac blossom on a piece of linen and patiently taught me how to embroider it. Aunt Minn was always so solicitous of my appearance and helped me to dress, and always curled my long hair as I could not do my hair, even though my hair was naturally curly.

My father was so devoted to his mother, and during her last illness he would drive over to Crown Point to be with her nightly. Grandma longed to see my two brothers and me, so he took us over one night by horse and buggy. She wanted to hear us say our night prayers. We knelt down at her bedside in her room. I still remember her lying in her long-sleeved white nigbtie with ruffled collar and cuffs. Her huge bed was covered with a starched coverlet with dust ruffles. This is so vivid in my mind.

We stayed at Aunt Minn's house overnight, for she was now married and lived across the lawn from Grandma's house. About a week after our visit, Grandma died. I was almost 12 years old, and I remember attending her funeral. She died the day before my father's birthday, and was buried the day after St. Patrick's Day.

My childhood memories of those days come drifting back to me through the years. I remember Grandma praising me for my good manners. I wonder now that I am older, if old people were slighted, or what made her appreciate the little niceties I tried to extend to her. Strange that something like this that costs so little could mean so much to her. One morning an old friend of hers came in, and when I came out I said "Good Morning" to them. She said that the older granddaughters never said that to her, and she was so pleased that I did. My love for older people all through my life perhaps prompted me to do this. Perhaps she made me realize how lonesome someone can be in the twilight of their life. God love her!

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etymology: Elsuth (977). Germanic ‘alis’ = els (English: alder) and ‘-uth’ (English: collection).

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