Person:Herbert White (10)

Following is biographical information I provided to The Canadian Letters and Images Project. See the related footnote below for a link to site, and the diary transcription that I submitted to them.

HERBERT (Bert) HILL WHITE was born 30 Jul 1880 on Beaver Valley Farm, Grey County, Ontario, Canada, and died 02 Feb 1943 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He was the youngest son of Thomas Boothby White and Martha (Smith) White. The farm was located on the 10th line of Collingwood Township at lot 18.

Sometime after his father's passing in 1895 Bert moved to Cincinnati, Ohio to live with or near his brother E. Frank White and his mother. She had been born and raised in Dearborn County, Indiana near Cincinnati. Frank White was a printer in Cincinnati. At the time of his enlistment, Bert would have been 36 years old. In his Attestation Paper he gave his year of birth as 1882, makiing him 34. I wonder if there was an age limit of 35 years at the time of his enlistment? As noted in his war diary, he returned to Canada in October 1916 to enlist.

On his WWI Attestation papers he was listed as an unmarried printer living in Cincinnati, OH before he enlisted (Regimental Number 264619). He sailed from Halifax on board the Titanic's sister ship, the RMS Olympic on Dec 15th, 1916 and arrived in England on Dec 18th, 1916 according to his Casualty Form - Active Service form. However, a second form included in his military records is stamped that he "arrived in England S.S.Olympic 28 12 16." He was posted to Purfleet where he as in the 211th Battalion on transfer to the Canadian Railway Troops. On March 21st, 1917 he was transferred to the 8th Battalion CRG and on the 31st he was transferred to the 6th Battalion. He was sent to France, where he arrived on April 3rd, 1917. He was promoted to Lance Corporal with pay on Apr 1st, 1918, and was granted "one G.C. Badge L/CPL" on Oct 11th, 1918. He embarked on H M T Celtic in Liverpool to return to Canada on March 10th, 1919.

I have in my possession two campaign medals (Victory medal and British War medal) that have Bert's name and serial number engraved on the rim.

After the war, he returned to Cincinnati. At some time later, he returned to Canada and began working for the Government Printing Bureau in Ottawa. Upon his passing, he was taken to Gananoque where his sister Martha Ann (Annie) Jane Sine lived.

The inside cover of his war diary reads:

Name Herbert H White

Rank and Number Corpl 264619

Battalion, Battery, etc 213th O.S. Bn

Brigade 10th

Date of enlistment Oct. 11, 1916

Where enlisted Camp Borden

Should this book be found,

kindly forward it to the undersigned.

To you these writings may not mean much,

To others they mean everything that's dear.

Thank You!

Name H H White

Address 901 Chateau Ave

Cincinnati, Ohio

Note that the above address is where his brother, family and mother resided. The full transcription of his war diary are included in this Wiki at Transcript:Herbert H White World War I Diary^S16.

I am in possession of a postcard picturing Bert and an unidentified companion taken in Brussels shortly after the end of WWI (see image below.) It reads:

London, Eng., Dec. 23, 1918

My dear Myrt and all,

Had this taken while on visit to Brussels, Belgium, Dec 8th, 9th and 10th, 1918. I still look very stern, but really did not feel that way. Came here on Friday last for 14 days. May go to Father's birthplace on latter part of fourlough (sic). Do not know when we will sail for Canada. That real good xmas parcel rec'd day before I left camp. Thanks, Thanks. Yours Bert

Myrtle (White) Moffat was Bert's youngest sister. She was born in 1878. At the time of writing, she was living on a farm near Frobisher, Saskatchewan. His father's birthplace was Ludborough, Lincolnshire.

Corporal Bert White and companion

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} White Family Tree (G Clare White)
   Page A-2.

   Herbert Hill (White) born 7-30-1880, died 2-2-1943

2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} E.F. White, Jr. Copy of Rhoda Johnston's Records
   Page 2.

   Herbert Hill (White), b. July 30, 1880 Beaver Valley Farm, d. 1942 (?)

3. ↑ ^3.0 3.1 Death Notices - Herbert White, in Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada. The Ottawa Citizen. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada)
   1943.

   WHITE -- suddenly at a local hospital, on Tuesday February 1943, Herbert White, aged 62 years, of the Government Printing Bureau. Resting at the parlour of McEvoy Brothers, 234 Kent Street, corner of Nepean Street, until 7 a.m., thence to Union Station en route to Gananoque for service and interment.;

4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2} T B White's Family Record with annotations by Phyllis Sine
   Page 2.

   Herbert Hill (White) d. Ottawa, Feb. 2, 1943 Gananoque Cemetery.

5. ↑ ^5.0 5.1 Thomas B White household, in Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1881 Census of Canada. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada)
   Section B3, Page 67, Line 9, 4 Apr 1881.

   (White), Herbert H, M(ale), Age 10/12 July, Country of Birth O(ntario), Religion Ch Eng, Origin English

6. ↑ ^6.0 6.1 Thomas B White household, in 1881 Canadian Census, LDS CD, Transcriptions. (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, UT84150-3400, 2001)
   Page 66 Family 330, 4 Apr 1881.

   Census Place: Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375897 NAC C-13261 Dist 155 SubDist B Div 3
   
   Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace
   Thomas B. WHITE M M 56 English England Occ: Farmer Religion: Church of England
   Martha H. WHITE F M 46 English USA Religion: Church of England
   Susan WHITE F 23 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England
   James B. WHITE M 18 English O <Ontario> Occ: Farmer; Going To School Religion: Church of England
   Thomas B. WHITE M 16 English O <Ontario> Occ: Farmer; Going To School Religion: Church of England
   Ann M.J. WHITE F 14 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England
   Edward F. WHITE M 11 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England
   Robert H. WHITE M 8 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England
   Myrtle WHITE F 3 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England
   Herbert H. WHITE M <1 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England
   Born: Jul; 10/12

7. ↑ ^7.0 7.1 Herbert Hill White, in Ontario, Canada. Ontario Canada Births 1869-ongoing. (Toronto, Ontario: Archives of Ontario)
   1880.

   Name: Herbert Hill White
   Date of Birth: 30 Jul 1880
   Gender: Male
   Birth County: Grey
   Father's name: Thomas B White
   Mother's name: Martha Smith
   Roll Number: MS929_43

8. ↑ ^8.0 8.1 Thomas B White household, in Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1891 Census of Canada. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada)
   15 Apr 1891.

   Name:Herbet H White
   Gender:Male
   Marital Status:Single
   Age:10
   Birth Year:abt 1881
   Birthplace:Ontario
   Relation to Head of House:Son
   Religion:Church of England
   French Canadian:No
   Father's Birth Place:England
   Mother's Birth Place:United States
   Province:Ontario
   District Number:67
   District:Grey East
   Subdistrict:Collingwood
   Neighbors:View others on page
   Household Members:
   NameAge
   Thomas B White67
   Martha White56
   Marth A White24
   Edward F White21
   Robert M White18
   Myrtle White12
   Herbet H White10

9. ↑ RGMoffat/Moffat, Richard G. (Rick).

   He was often referred to as Bert when Grandma and others spoke of him.

10. ↑ Canadian Letters and Images Project.

    You can view images from Herbert Hill White's war diary that I submitted to this web site.

11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3} Herbert Hill White, in Canada. Soldiers of the First World War. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada).

    264619, File location 10291 - 47

12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1 12.2} Herbert H White, in Immigration and Naturalization Service. Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956: Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, RG 85. (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc)
    24 Jul 1919.

    Returning from overseas - World War I
    
    Name:Herbert H White
    Arrival Date:24 Jul 1919
    Age:36
    Birth Date:abt 1883
    Birth Country:Canada
    Gender:Male
    Race/Nationality:English
    
    Port of Arrival:Detroit, Michigan, USA

13. ↑ Herbert H White, in Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. (Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2006)
    18 Mar 1919.

    Name:Herbert H White
    Date of Arrival:18 Mar 1919
    Vessel:Celtic
    Search Ship Database:View the 'Celtic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
    Port of Arrival:Halifax, Nova Scotia
    Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
    Roll:T-14794

14. ↑ Edward F White household, in Hamilton, Ohio, United States. 1920 U.S. Census Population Schedule
    Jan 1920.

    Edward was enumerated as a Printer Publisher. His brother, Herbert was listed as a Printer for a Printing Co. He was boarding in Edward's household. The enumerator recorded the middle initial for both Frank and Frank Jr as H.
    
    Name: Herbert H White
    [Herbert H Uchite]
    Age: 39
    Birth Year: abt 1881
    Birthplace: Canada
    Home in 1920: Cincinnati Ward 20, Hamilton, Ohio
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Brother
    Marital Status: Single
    Father's Birthplace: England
    Mother's Birthplace: Indiana
    Able to read: Yes
    Able to Write: Yes
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Edward H White 49
    Jessie W White 39
    Helen E White 17
    Edward H White 9
    Martha J White 7
    Emily M White 5
    Herbert H White 39

    Name: Herbert H White
    [Herbert H Uchite]
    Age: 39
    Birth Year: abt 1881
    Birthplace: Canada
    Home in 1920: Cincinnati Ward 20, Hamilton, Ohio
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Brother
    Marital Status: Single
    Father's Birthplace: England
    Mother's Birthplace: Indiana
    Able to read: Yes
    Able to Write: Yes
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Edward H White 49
    Jessie W White 39
    Helen E White 17
    Edward H White 9
    Martha J White 7
    Emily M White 5
    Herbert H White 39

15. ↑ White, E. Frank. White Family (Memoir) transcription. (1 Sep 1926).

    Brother of the author of this document.
    
    See the above MySource page for the full text of this memoir.

16.   White, Herbert H. A Soldier's WWI Diary. (unpublished).