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Facts and Events
Name[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][14][15] |
Herbert Hill White |
Alt Name[9] |
Bert _____ |
Gender |
Male |
Birth[6][1][2][5][7][8] |
30 Jul 1880 |
Collingwood, Grey, Ontario, Canadaon the Beaver Valley Farm on the 10th line |
Alt Birth[11] |
30 Jul 1882 |
Clarksburg, Grey, Ontario, Canada |
Immigration[12] |
1908 |
United States |
Military[10][11] |
Oct 1916 |
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Immigration[12] |
4 Oct 1916 |
Canada |
Military[11] |
11 Oct 1916 |
Camp Borden, Simcoe, Ontario, CanadaCamp Borden. |
Immigration[13] |
18 Mar 1919 |
Halifax, Nova Scotia, CanadaReturned from WWI |
Military[11] |
21 Mar 1919 |
Toronto, York, Ontario, CanadaDischarged at the No. 2 District Depot |
Immigration[12] |
24 Jul 1919 |
Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States |
Death[1][2][3][4] |
2 Feb 1943 |
Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada |
Burial[4] |
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Gananoque Cemetery, Gananoque, Leeds and Grenville, Ontario, Canada |
Following is biographical information I provided to The Canadian Letters and Images Project. See the related footnote below for a link to site, and the diary transcription that I submitted to them.
HERBERT (Bert) HILL WHITE was born 30 Jul 1880 on Beaver Valley Farm, Grey County, Ontario, Canada, and died 02 Feb 1943 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He was the youngest son of Thomas Boothby White and Martha (Smith) White. The farm was located on the 10th line of Collingwood Township at lot 18.
Sometime after his father's passing in 1895 Bert moved to Cincinnati, Ohio to live with or near his brother E. Frank White and his mother. She had been born and raised in Dearborn County, Indiana near Cincinnati. Frank White was a printer in Cincinnati. At the time of his enlistment, Bert would have been 36 years old. In his Attestation Paper he gave his year of birth as 1882, makiing him 34. I wonder if there was an age limit of 35 years at the time of his enlistment? As noted in his war diary, he returned to Canada in October 1916 to enlist.
On his WWI Attestation papers he was listed as an unmarried printer living in Cincinnati, OH before he enlisted (Regimental Number 264619). He sailed from Halifax on board the Titanic's sister ship, the RMS Olympic on Dec 15th, 1916 and arrived in England on Dec 18th, 1916 according to his Casualty Form - Active Service form. However, a second form included in his military records is stamped that he "arrived in England S.S.Olympic 28 12 16." He was posted to Purfleet where he as in the 211th Battalion on transfer to the Canadian Railway Troops. On March 21st, 1917 he was transferred to the 8th Battalion CRG and on the 31st he was transferred to the 6th Battalion. He was sent to France, where he arrived on April 3rd, 1917. He was promoted to Lance Corporal with pay on Apr 1st, 1918, and was granted "one G.C. Badge L/CPL" on Oct 11th, 1918. He embarked on H M T Celtic in Liverpool to return to Canada on March 10th, 1919.
I have in my possession two campaign medals (Victory medal and British War medal) that have Bert's name and serial number engraved on the rim.
After the war, he returned to Cincinnati. At some time later, he returned to Canada and began working for the Government Printing Bureau in Ottawa. Upon his passing, he was taken to Gananoque where his sister Martha Ann (Annie) Jane Sine lived.
The inside cover of his war diary reads:
- Name Herbert H White
- Rank and Number Corpl 264619
- Battalion, Battery, etc 213th O.S. Bn
- Brigade 10th
- Date of enlistment Oct. 11, 1916
- Where enlisted Camp Borden
- Should this book be found,
- kindly forward it to the undersigned.
- To you these writings may not mean much,
- To others they mean everything that's dear.
- Thank You!
- Name H H White
- Address 901 Chateau Ave
- Cincinnati, Ohio
Note that the above address is where his brother, family and mother resided. The full transcription of his war diary are included in this Wiki at Transcript:Herbert H White World War I DiaryS16.
I am in possession of a postcard picturing Bert and an unidentified companion taken in Brussels shortly after the end of WWI (see image below.) It reads:
- London, Eng., Dec. 23, 1918
- My dear Myrt and all,
- Had this taken while on visit to Brussels, Belgium, Dec 8th, 9th and 10th, 1918. I still look very stern, but really did not feel that way. Came here on Friday last for 14 days. May go to Father's birthplace on latter part of fourlough (sic). Do not know when we will sail for Canada. That real good xmas parcel rec'd day before I left camp. Thanks, Thanks. Yours Bert
Myrtle (White) Moffat was Bert's youngest sister. She was born in 1878. At the time of writing, she was living on a farm near Frobisher, Saskatchewan. His father's birthplace was Ludborough, Lincolnshire.
Image Gallery
Corporal Bert White and companion
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 White Family Tree (G Clare White)
Page A-2.
Herbert Hill (White) born 7-30-1880, died 2-2-1943
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 E.F. White, Jr. Copy of Rhoda Johnston's Records
Page 2.
Herbert Hill (White), b. July 30, 1880 Beaver Valley Farm, d. 1942 (?)
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Death Notices - Herbert White, in Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada. The Ottawa Citizen. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada)
1943.
WHITE -- suddenly at a local hospital, on Tuesday February 1943, Herbert White, aged 62 years, of the Government Printing Bureau. Resting at the parlour of McEvoy Brothers, 234 Kent Street, corner of Nepean Street, until 7 a.m., thence to Union Station en route to Gananoque for service and interment.;
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 T B White's Family Record with annotations by Phyllis Sine
Page 2.
Herbert Hill (White) d. Ottawa, Feb. 2, 1943 Gananoque Cemetery.
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Thomas B White household, in Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1881 Census of Canada. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada)
Section B3, Page 67, Line 9, 4 Apr 1881.
(White), Herbert H, M(ale), Age 10/12 July, Country of Birth O(ntario), Religion Ch Eng, Origin English
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Thomas B White household, in 1881 Canadian Census, LDS CD, Transcriptions. (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, UT84150-3400, 2001)
Page 66 Family 330, 4 Apr 1881.
Census Place: Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375897 NAC C-13261 Dist 155 SubDist B Div 3
Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Thomas B. WHITE M M 56 English England Occ: Farmer Religion: Church of England Martha H. WHITE F M 46 English USA Religion: Church of England Susan WHITE F 23 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England James B. WHITE M 18 English O <Ontario> Occ: Farmer; Going To School Religion: Church of England Thomas B. WHITE M 16 English O <Ontario> Occ: Farmer; Going To School Religion: Church of England Ann M.J. WHITE F 14 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England Edward F. WHITE M 11 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England Robert H. WHITE M 8 English O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: Church of England Myrtle WHITE F 3 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England Herbert H. WHITE M <1 English O <Ontario> Religion: Church of England Born: Jul; 10/12
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 Herbert Hill White, in Ontario, Canada. Ontario Canada Births 1869-ongoing. (Toronto, Ontario: Archives of Ontario)
1880.
Name: Herbert Hill White Date of Birth: 30 Jul 1880 Gender: Male Birth County: Grey Father's name: Thomas B White Mother's name: Martha Smith Roll Number: MS929_43
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 Thomas B White household, in Grey, Ontario, Canada. 1891 Census of Canada. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada)
15 Apr 1891.
Name:Herbet H White Gender:Male Marital Status:Single Age:10 Birth Year:abt 1881 Birthplace:Ontario Relation to Head of House:Son Religion:Church of England French Canadian:No Father's Birth Place:England Mother's Birth Place:United States Province:Ontario District Number:67 District:Grey East Subdistrict:Collingwood Neighbors:View others on page Household Members: NameAge Thomas B White67 Martha White56 Marth A White24 Edward F White21 Robert M White18 Myrtle White12 Herbet H White10
- ↑ RGMoffat/Moffat, Richard G. (Rick).
He was often referred to as Bert when Grandma and others spoke of him.
- ↑ Canadian Letters and Images Project.
You can view images from Herbert Hill White's war diary that I submitted to this web site.
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 Herbert Hill White, in Canada. Soldiers of the First World War. (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada).
264619, File location 10291 - 47
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 Herbert H White, in Immigration and Naturalization Service. Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956: Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, RG 85. (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc)
24 Jul 1919.
Returning from overseas - World War I
Name:Herbert H White Arrival Date:24 Jul 1919 Age:36 Birth Date:abt 1883 Birth Country:Canada Gender:Male Race/Nationality:English Port of Arrival:Detroit, Michigan, USA
- ↑ Herbert H White, in Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. (Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2006)
18 Mar 1919.
Name:Herbert H White Date of Arrival:18 Mar 1919 Vessel:Celtic Search Ship Database:View the 'Celtic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival:Halifax, Nova Scotia Port of Departure:Liverpool, England Roll:T-14794
- ↑ Edward F White household, in Hamilton, Ohio, United States. 1920 U.S. Census Population Schedule
Jan 1920.
Edward was enumerated as a Printer Publisher. His brother, Herbert was listed as a Printer for a Printing Co. He was boarding in Edward's household. The enumerator recorded the middle initial for both Frank and Frank Jr as H.
Name: Herbert H White [Herbert H Uchite] Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1920: Cincinnati Ward 20, Hamilton, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Brother Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward H White 49 Jessie W White 39 Helen E White 17 Edward H White 9 Martha J White 7 Emily M White 5 Herbert H White 39
Name: Herbert H White [Herbert H Uchite] Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1920: Cincinnati Ward 20, Hamilton, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Brother Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward H White 49 Jessie W White 39 Helen E White 17 Edward H White 9 Martha J White 7 Emily M White 5 Herbert H White 39
- ↑ White, E. Frank. White Family (Memoir) transcription. (1 Sep 1926).
Brother of the author of this document.
See the above MySource page for the full text of this memoir.
- White, Herbert H. A Soldier's WWI Diary. (unpublished).
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