Help talk:Assertions

Funky question mark [6 February 2013]

I have attempted to use the new templates for the first time. (See Person:Pieter Wyckoff (2)). I am getting a little suprascript question mark following the name of the type of assertion: "refuted parents" and the same when I put the template for "refuted child" on the family page for the refuted father (Family:Claes Van Schouw and Unknown (1)). Is that intended to be there or is it telling me that I did something wrong and if so what is the error?--Renee Dauven 22:17, 5 February 2013 (EST)

The little question mark is simply a route to get to help and to explain what the fact is about. No indication at all that you've done anything wrong. --jrm03063 22:41, 5 February 2013 (EST)
If you click on the little question mark it takes you to the help page for that kind of assertion. This help is primarily for readers of the page (more than editors) to help them understand what claim is being made. We thought the "?" was the best way to help understanding of the usage. Another alternative would be to have no "?" or other symbol, but to have the words themselves, e.g. "Refuted Father", link to the help page. The problem with that is that the reader is unlikely to notice that help is available. 16:19, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Making pages more user friendly [6 February 2013]

May I suggest that, to make these pages easier to use, examples of what exactly one should type in order to use the new templates. As a newbie who is a bit computer challenged, I found it a bit difficult to know exactly what I was to type.--Renee Dauven 22:29, 5 February 2013 (EST)

We are sort of trying to do that. User friendliness is a bit of a challenge here though - since we're trying to do things that can be made to work without (at least to begin with) and special software changes. I do thank you very much for giving them a try. It looks like you're using them correctly as far as I can tell...
I added syntax to the RefutedChild example. Before I carry that sort of thing forward, is that about what you had in mind? Thanks! --jrm03063 22:49, 5 February 2013 (EST)
That is exactly what I was needing. Thank you.
Thanks for the input! Don't hesitate in the future, etc... --jrm03063 14:05, 6 February 2013 (EST)
By the way, more help with syntax is available on the template page itself. For instance, for "Refuted Father" you can visit the template page Template:RefutedFather. On that page you find some editing help, including the example syntax: "{{RefutedFather| George Washington (1)}}". You can reach these template pages more easily by clicking on the assertion template name in one of the tables of assertions on the help page. 16:19, 6 February 2013 (EST)
Oh, boy. I didn't even try that. Just went straight to the examples given below the table. Thanks for pointing out the oversight.