Family talk:Kenneth II of Scotland and Lady Of Leinster (2)

Spouse for Kenneth II [7 October 2011]

I'm ok with the removal of "Lady of Leinster" on the grounds of no proof, but this seems to be a common myth or legend, and we don't want to be silent on the fact that we've observed and rejected this spouse. I'm going to add a note to this effect, feel free to modify, etc.... --jrm03063 18:42, 7 October 2011 (EDT)

That's fine. One of my main issues was that there was a recursion created. It had Kenneth II being the son of Lady of Leinster, the daughter of Donalda of Alba, the daughter of Malcolm II, the son of Kenneth II, and so on, ad infinitum.

In effect, it has Kenneth II as his own great-great-grandson and on the family tree, you could just keep clicking.

Something should be fixed.--OrthodoxLinguist 18:48, 7 October 2011 (EDT)

Detection of cycles may be possible in simple cases, but I doubt that it's fundamentally detectable in reasonable time. BTW, as you work through some of these ancient and older spaces, when you find pages that are pure crap (not even based on a legend that we can say is unproved), don't cast them adrift. Mark them with the speedy delete template and we'll clear 'em out. Thanks for working a relativly thankless area...!!!! --jrm03063 19:08, 7 October 2011 (EDT)

This is Stewart Baldwin's take on the Lady of Leinster at the Henry Project : According to Berchan's Prophecy, a cryptic Scottish king list posing as verse prophecy, the mother of Malcolm II was a women from Leinster, a statement not supported elsewhere, but which there is no good reason to doubt [ESSH 1: 573-4]. She was presumably a member of one of the local dynasties ruling in Leinster at the time, but no known evidence would tell us to which of these dynasties she belonged (if any).--Werebear 19:36, 7 March 2013 (EST)