User talk:WILLISdescendant1

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Macks father William [25 August 2011]

Will you explain why you know that William that married Nancy Smith is Not Macks father? Thanks--ruthnevada 21:21, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

EDITED: There is some debate as to if William Willis who Married Nancy Smith, if they are McKinzie's parents. There is no actual proof, but people feel the dates would fit. I am looking for proof. Would love to find proof so if you have any, please post it. Also if anyone has info as to who McKinzie's siblings were. Please post that too!

Mack's mom's name WAS Nancy, but we do not know her maiden name, we do know that Mack’s mom Nancy, was married to a Willis, and that Mack's dad WAS a Willis, but we don't know his name as of yet. It is possible that he was named William.

I have a document where Mack's mother, Nancy, signs saying it is ok for Mack to marry Mary Polly Logsdon, and Mary Polly's father (John Logsdon) signs saying it's ok to marry (I think back then, you had to be 21 to marry).

In one other document I have, The courts required Mack's mom Nancy, to appear in court so that Mack can do an apprenticeship, because, as it stated, "His Father has absconded and left this Country", and he needed to learn a trade as a result. It doesn't list his Father's name, and we're not sure if he left the “country” as it is spelled in the document or if they meant “county”. So we know his mom was a Nancy.

Also, McKinzie was still alive in 1865 as he took Merrill to court for support. I have that document. So he had to have died after 1865.

I am in touch with one of Merrill’s descendants of his son William Sidney Willis, and also with a descendant of Mack’s daughter Susan.

SOMETHING WE NEVER KNEW:

I had my father (who is a descendant of McKinsie: My Dad/Clyde/Abner Bond/Merrill/McKinsie ) do the 67 marker DNA test at FamilytreeDNA.com.

The DNA test my Dad did, revealed something we never ever knew…it showed that we (McKinsie descendants) are related to an Abner Willis of Washington Co, VA (I’m not talking about Abner Bond, who is Merrill’s son).

The DNA test matched up with 3 people. One of them matched 67/67 markers ( an EXACT match) , one matched 66/67 markers and the other 65/67 markers. You can’t get much better then results like that. FamilytreeDNA is VERY reliable and well known. I am in contact with 2 of the 3 his descendants.

The neat thing about 37 or 67 marker matches is this: The results of the test we did mean, that we are related to Abner of Virginia within ONLY 4-6 generations, if I recall right, at the most. PROBLEM: We can’t find WHERE our trees meet

[11 September 2024]

Hi Willisdescendant1

You sort of left a message for me as someone watching my user page. I rarely edit on WeRelate these days, but do come here periodically. It was only when I expanded the watchers list that I noticed your name. Took a look at your user page and say your message.

Thank you for providing the information you gave in your note. As it happens, All of that is pretty much known to me. You asked about proof that William Willis was Nancy's husband. There's a record where he is identified as the father of McKinzie's sister, which means almost certainly that he is MKinzie's father as well. There are other sources for that as well, which we can talk about if you wish.

You were taking about YDNA matches---yes, you can definitely do better than a 67/67 marker match. Actually a lot better, though it's expensive. The Big Y test will give you virtually everything possible in the way of SNPs and SStrs. Among other things it will identify your terminal haplogroup. n point of fact the terminal for both Abner and Henry are not quite the same. Very close, and one is undoubtedly derived from the common ancestor and the other has evolved a tiny bit. My estimate of the date of the split is about two generations earlier than the birth of Abner in 1775. I don't think they are brothers (too much geographic separaation), but they cold be first cousins. or earlier. This particular branch of the Haplotree does not have many test results---as a result going from the current penultimate is quite a ways back from either terminal That will be remedied as more people test and fill in the empty spaces. Typically a haplogroup evolves about once every couple of hundred years. If you'd like to talk more about this I'd be happy to converse.

Bill--Bill Willis 20:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)