User talk:Sweetman

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Tiernan Kilcommons relationship [13 February 2016]

It is great that you have established that Mary Tiernan is a Kilcommons. I hope this will help us get more information about her brothers and sisters, and help us connect them to the Owen Kilcommons and Ellen Keenahan family. My guess right now is that Owen, Daniel and Mary are siblings.--Acurley 13:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

John Tiernan signed by mark on Daniel Kilcommons's petition. The image is available on ancestry.com.--Acurley 02:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Tiernan Curley connection [13 February 2016]

Look at the information I have put on the talk page for John Tiernan: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person_talk:John_Tiernan_%282%29--Acurley 20:58, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Tiernan Kilcommons connection [14 February 2016]

John Tiernan was the witness when Daniel Kilcommons applied for citizenship in 1857. So this should confirm that Mary Kilcommons Tiernan was Daniel's sister.--Acurley 21:24, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering if John Tiernan's signature is on the Petition. I have John's Sept 6, 1855 intent for citizenship and noticed that "his mark" was written with a "plus sign". The "signature" was the same handwriting as the Court Clerk.--Sweetman 02:27, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

I think that I just saw an abstract, but I will check to see if I can find the petition itself.--Acurley 02:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Did Daniel apply in Monmouth County? Monmouth County Archives now emails the declaration and petition within a few days, free of charge.--Sweetman 02:38, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

No, it was in New York.--Acurley 02:39, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Here is my note from Daniel Kilcommons's page: Daniel was naturalized on 21 October 1857 at the Common Pleas Court, New York City. He was living at 18 Leonard St. This means he immigrated no later than 21 October 1852. The witness was John Tiernan of 14 Leonard St., who was very likely his brother-in-law.--Acurley 02:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Was John Tiernan's naturalization in Monmouth County? By the way, I learned recently that Monmouth County was one of the greatest potato growing regions in the country, and that the farmers there would go to NYC to get Irish immigrants to work the potato farms.--Acurley 02:44, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Surprising that my John Tiernan would be living in NY. In 1855 he declared his intent for citizenship in Monmouth CO, then in 1859 a son John Joseph was born in Chapell Hill Middletown, so there is a gap, I'll have to look into this.--Sweetman 02:49, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

John Tiernan's declaration was in Monmouth CO, Haven't come across the Petition. On the same day in Monmouth CO, a Martin Tiernan also declared his intention, so Martin may be John's brother. I did read about the potatoes. Also at Castle Gardens Irish would be hired on the spot as farm laborers for NJ farms. I know that folks sold the NJ produce in NY and folks seemed to go back and forth quite a bit. Tracing John Tiernan in Monmouth has been a challenge due to name mispellings, with some of the censuses I had to read the entire town census to find them.--Sweetman 03:02, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

John Tiernan also signed by mark when he witnessed Daniel Kilcommons's petition (as had Daniel himself).--Acurley 13:59, 14 February 2016 (UTC)