User talk:Shaz1



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Ethel Louise Rouse and Arthur George Goddard [25 April 2016]

Hi, I'm a direct descendent of Ethel Louise Rouse's grandfather, Thomas Roberts Rouse. Her father, Henry Rouse, was an inspector in the Metropolitan Police at the time of Sherlock Holmes! His brother, George, was my gt grandfather.

Please do email me at to compare notes!

Best, Stephen--StevePat 14:43, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

hi are you related to the woods family from kenninghall norfolk through marriage--Apater18 00:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

hi are you related to the woods family from kenninghall norfolk through marriage--Apater18 00:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 June 2011]

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Duplicate families [5 January 2012]

Hi Shaz1,

When you have a moment, please take a look at your Duplicates List by going to My Relate>Show Duplicates. It’s a good idea to check this list on a regular basis. There are a few families there that are potential matches. We have an ongoing site-wide project to merge duplicates, but it is always better if somebody familiar with the families can make the merge. Here is our help page on merging. If you have any questions, just let me know. Thanks! --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:34, 5 January 2012 (EST)

frederick larcombe [31 January 2012]

Hi Frederick and ivy are my great grandparents...

Are they your relations? If you read this please get back to me, i have lots of info as fred was my nans father .

Thank you

Charlotte.--Charley89 12:44, 31 January 2012 (EST)

George Everett and Mary Ann Juniper [26 March 2012]

Greetings. George Everett, b. 1809 in South Weald and Mary Ann (nee Juniper), b. 1849 in Chelmsford are my g-g-g-grandparents. Their son, James Everett, was born in 1849 in Chelmsford, Essex. James Everett married Fanny Wood on March 9, 1875. They had four children, including my grandfather, Albert George Everett, b. 1879 in Southwark, London (Albert's siblings are Percival James Everett, Ethel Fanny Everett (artist - Royal Academy) and Arthur Everett (WWI veteran). Grandfather Albert came to the United States in about 1905, married my grandmother (Mabel Burnett). Albert died in 1951, I believe Percy and Ethel died in 1951 as well. My father, Everett James Everett, b. 1915 St. Louis, Missouri. He died in 1991. Teresa Everett--teverett 01:06, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

Hi [7 May 2012]

Hi Shaz1

Noticed you are watching Ellis Steele Clarke.

I am a Clarke can i ask why you are watching him?

I am researching the Clarke family at the moment and have a fair bit of info

Regards Gary--Hdt-05 03:27, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

NEWMAN [16 May 2012]

Hi Shaz1, I am hoping that you are Sharon who I've been in touch with over the years with a common ancestor of John/Richard NEWMAN, born c 1810, died in Tassie in 1894??

I tried to send an e-mail via Ancestry but didn't have any success.

I am still trying to locate John Richard and also Isaac JACOBS, and I wonder if you would be able to get in touch. I have a couple of ideas I'd like to run past you that might help find these two elusive guys.

Hoping that this reaches you and finds you well.

REgards, Lynne in Tasmania.--Winnie Dragon 01:15, 16 May 2012 (EDT)

Adoption [25 September 2012]

Greetings! I responded to your query about adoption. I wanted to add that some folks think that it's legitimate to add two sets of parents for a child - since the system will represent that situation. However, the appearance of multiple parents is usually an indicator of duplication or of confusion about who the actual parents are. So I really don't like the idea of adoptions being mixed with natural births. It's not a matter of respect for either institution (as the child of an adopted parent I understand it's at least as special as any other parental relationship) it's just a matter of preventing confusion in a huge dataset.

Thanks for caring enough to ask!

--jrm03063 12:24, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

Godshill Wood [5 November 2012]

Hard place to track down ?

Can you give amy more infirmation - could it be linked to Goshill,Hampshire

Godshill is a village and civil parish and in New Forest National Park in Hampshire, England. It is about 1.5 miles (2.4 km) east of the town of Fordingbridge.

This I will create / add

Thanks--Colin Madge 08:45, 5 November 2012 (EST)

James Family Tree [27 November 2012]

Hi Shaz1,

I am trying to contact Sharon L who compliled James Family Tree

Can you contact me please--Tonbre 07:20, 27 November 2012 (EST)

Harriet Nicholas [27 December 2012]

See Talk for this person--Xq381 03:36, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Farrar family [28 January 2013]

Hi Shaz1

You have made my night today. I love your site and have just come across it.

Let me introduce myself.

My name is Sue.

I am the grand-daughter of Stanly Douglas Farrar and knew him and his wife in the later years.

I would love to catch up with you and perhaps share what information I have. I know there is official documentation somewhere, but my Uncle (Stanley's son) does not knnow where it went to. Unfortunately Stanley's family is very disjointed and I do not know much, but may be able to assist you with later information.

I live in SA, but would love to communicate.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.


Sue--Srgreen60 07:23, 26 January 2013 (EST)

Hi Sue, You contacted me re Farrar. If you are a descendant of Matthew and Matilda, then we are both descendants of Elizabeth Presnell. If you would like to contact me, you can click on my user name, then more, and a link should enable you to email me. If not, then please let me know how I can contact you. Sharon.--Shaz1 05:21, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Removal of information [9 March 2013]


Yesterday I removed some information from pages which appeared to have been put on WeRelate by yourself. The reasons for doing this were as follows: 1) When I gave you the information about ten years ago I was unaware that the file contained the information contained in "Notes" in my Family Tree Maker program. While most of these notes are harmless, some could cause embarrassment. 2) I claim copyright over the content of my trees. I have no problem with the information such as Birth, Marriage, Death being used since this is why we exchange information. I do however strongly object to the other content being used without the courtesy of asking permission. 3) There are several elderly Downing relatives who have very strong conflicting opinions about some things that occurred in the 20th Century. If they found that references to these were available for public use they would be extremely offended, and I would be exceedingly unpopular for what I had written.

I therefore request you to remove these items again.--Bunnison 05:40, 9 March 2013 (EST)

I am sorry if I have caused any hurt or offence to you or any of your relatives. I realise that some of the information on some pages may have been sensitive and it would have been better not to include it. I believe that the information still included at this site is largely available in the public domain and/or not of a sensitive nature. However, if you have still have any concerns please let me know, or remove it.--Shaz1 06:07, 9 March 2013 (EST)

Removal of information [9 March 2013]

Thank you for understanding the problem. I will remove what is required myself.--Bunnison 06:37, 9 March 2013 (EST)

Henry Pickard and Mabel Upton [10 March 2013]

I have noticed you are watching this link. These are my Grandparents. I was wondering how and if we are related?

Kind Regards,

GREENROSE--GREENROSE 10:03, 9 March 2013 (EST)

Henry Eaves Pickard and my husband are both descendants of William Pickard and Lucy Perkins. That makes you and my husband fifth cousins if my research is correct. Please feel free to add any info you have on any of the people connected to this tree. If you want more info on my connection please click on Shaz 1 and contact me directly via email. I would be very interested in more details of your connection and family if you are willing to supply it. Kind regards, Sharon.--Shaz1 22:56, 9 March 2013 (EST)

Smith Family of Dicklyburgh [12 March 2013]

Hi there, I am descended from the Smith Family of Dickleburgh (William Smith & Anna Rayson) and wondered if you are too? Would be great to hear from you. Kind Regards - Matt--Somersethouse 08:01, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

I am not a descendant of Anna and William. Their daughter Emma, and son Alfred both married people who are descendants of the Womack family, as my husband is. If you want more details, please email me directly by clicking on the arrow next to more in the top left of the page and then email this user. Sharon.--Shaz1 02:41, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

Henry Eaves Pickard and Mabel Upton [12 March 2013]

Hi, Sharon

Thanks for getting back to me. Do you have a direct email address to contact you on, or or do I use this? I am new to this site.

I was wondering whether you live in Australia and how you got details of my Father, Leslie Ronald Pickard. I have a lot of extra information on our line of the family and a few details which need to be altered. I have not had a chance to look at your tree in detail yet, but at first glance noticed a few "missing" members for which I have information.

Kind Regards,

GREENROSE--GREENROSE 23:42, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

If you click on the little arrow on the left top where it says "more", it will drop down to show "email this user". If you click on that you should be able to email me directly, rather than publishing my address. Let me know if you have any problems.--Shaz1 02:37, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

righteous reeve [13 March 2013]

Hello there,

Im related to righteous, could you tell me your interest?

Best wishes mark--Mookiecbr 10:22, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

Righteous Reeve b1801 is in my tree because his son, Righteous John Reeve b1839 married Elizabeth Corble, a granddaughter of William Grant and Anne Garnham from whom my husband is descended. A daughter of R.J. Reeve, Kate Elizabeth Reeve married Sidney Musk whose brother my husband is also descended from. There are also some other connections with the Reeve family, but no direct connection to Righteous. If you have any extra info to add on any of these people I would be most interested. if you want to know more from my end, let me know, Sharon.--Shaz1 01:48, 13 March 2013 (EDT)

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Frederick Richard (Turner) Schwan [12 February 2014]

Hi there Shaz,

Just wondered where you got your information from? I am married to Fred eldest son David and this is not the case at all according to him. I am happy to discuss this further with you as we are currently on a health mission with the male side of the Turner family

Michelle--Irishsoul64 00:31, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

Hi Michelle, If there are errors in the tree, I would very much like to know about it. Can you please go up to the top left corner of the page, click on more, and then email me directly. Thanks, Sharon.--Shaz1 02:04, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

I am Jessie Turners grand daughter and am wondering also as today is the first I have heard of 'uncle Tang' AKA - Michael John Clarence Turner1905 - 1983. having a child - My mother is Elaine Menia Reid (alive) - daughter of Jessie and Tasman Reid (both passed)--Tess 08:31, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi there Tess,

I spoke to your mum today on the phone regarding all of this. I will be sending her an email tomorrow regarding all the information about Clarrie and Frederick Richard Turner Schwan.

This is not the first time this sort of thing has happened in families and certainly won't be the last time especially in our life time. Hope we can all work together on this. The phone calls I have had today talking to your mum and a few other family members has shed new light on medical issues that may just be part of what my husband and his nephew needed to know.

I look forward to doing more research on this line.

Michelle--Irishsoul64 11:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Edward Calver/Mary Adams [2 May 2013]

Hi, I'm the g-g-grandson of the above. Please contact me if you require a gedcom of other relatives. Are you related to them? Regards, --Hairy 66 20:28, 1 May 2013 (EDT) Hairy_66


Hello Shaz1 I see you have an interest in my family from South Lopham I am a direct line descendant of john Rush 1771 who was married to Ann Andrews and was the father of the John Rush married to Martha Pearce. What is your interest in the family and have you any info going back from those dates, Regards Steve Rush Queensland Australia 17:59, 4 June 2013 (EDT)

Watching Bowers, Womack [8 June 2013]

Hi I see you are watching my fathers family and am wondering if we are related. My father was George Walter Bowers, 1909-1968 and he did indeed marry May Gorrell 1921-1987 my mother. I will upload some data and scans of certificates etc when I get time. My parents had four children of which I was the third, born in 1948. The eldest died last year, the other 3 of us are alive and well in New Zealand. So I was wondering if you had a connection. Cheers John Bowers--Johnbowers 03:23, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

Watching Bowers, Womack [8 June 2013]

Hi I see you are watching my fathers family and am wondering if we are related. My father was George Walter Bowers, 1909-1968 and he did indeed marry May Gorrell 1921-1987 my mother. I will upload some data and scans of certificates etc when I get time. My parents had four children of which I was the third, born in 1948. The eldest died last year, the other 3 of us are alive and well in New Zealand. So I was wondering if you had a connection. Cheers John Bowers 03:25, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

Patrick Scally [8 August 2013]


I noticed that you have a Patrick Scally in your tree, in Australia. I don't know if there is a connection but in my research I have come across a Patrick Scally and I was curious if you know anything of the parentage of the person in your tree.

What I have comes from my interest in the Malone family.

Margaret Malone was born in County Tipperary, Ireland and she passed away in Sydney, Australia on the 28th July 1888. Margaret married John Scally in Sydney, NSW, Australia during 1872. John's parents were John and Julia Scally and he had a brother Patrick also living in Sydney. John passed away in Sydney on the 3rd January 1902. It appears that John and Margaret may have not had any children.

Regards Jeffrey--JeffreyRLehrer 18:40, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

celtic-casimir links? [4 October 2013]

I'ld feel better about these if they had sources. When I go there - all I'm seeing is barren data. How would these help someone to confirm or pursue additional research?

Thanks.... --jrm03063 16:22, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a quick added sentiment - I'm really not trying to be petty. We need all the help we can get and could really use anyone who's interested in helping. The medieval spaces were trash when WeRelate first came into existence - being loaded from numberless and enormous poor quality GEDCOMs. A lot of work has been put in since then - trying to use quick to hand and (relatively) respected sources like Wikipedia, Cawley, and "The Peerage" - among others. Of course, this means there is still a great deal that is poor, but we're working on it.
When we add and edit things now though, by hand, we're trying to make sure that we make things better. Perfection isn't the standard - so please don't be intimidated (none of us are professionals) - but "better than what we have now" is. If we add a fact or make a connection - we should know why and be able to say so in a way that someone else could review and confirm our work. The source/reference basis can be thin (I mean, we accept WP and thepeerage basically as gospel) - but it really can't be absent.
I hope you understand, and will be more encouraged to participate because of it. As I said, we can definitely use the help! So thanks for being here! --jrm03063 17:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Just to add my two cents, as someone who has worked a fair bit on the medieval pages over the last several months. First of all, thanks for the helpful edits, which cleared up a few problems on the pages. It is great to see someone else working in this area, since it gets a bit lonely. I agree with Jrm03063 that Celtic Casimir is not a site that should, in general, be used as a source, since it doesn't usually cite its own sources for information. I think a citation should ideally be an original source (burial record, IPM, and so on), or cite such original sources, or at least somehow be linked in a citation-chain back to such sources. Failing that, being a published work would provide the citation with at least some credibility, or allow us to more easily assess that credibility (through reviews, and so on). I don't think Celtic Casimir meets that standard.

Thanks again for your work. Going to the pages to check it out, I noticed some careless errors I had previously made (citing the wrong pages, for example). So I am sure the pages will benefit from more eyes checking them over.--Werebear 00:55, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I understand your concerns and have renamed the page. If you have other concerns about anything else I do, please do not hesitate to let me know and/or amend as appropriate.--Shaz1 03:29, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Citations [16 October 2013]

Hello. I have noticed that you have recently changed a few of my citations of the Complete Peerage. I had hidden the URL for the relevant page of the Open Library file of the CP within the Volume/Page Number reference, so that the Volume/Page Number in the reference was clickable. In a couple of cases, you have "unhidden" the URL and in one case also deleted the volume and page number from the reference. I am wondering what the reason for that was.

Also, I think you have been removing the URLs for "Celtic Casimir" from after the text you have copied and pasted from that site and have been placing the URLs in the references section, where it is no longer obvious that they refer to that text. I think that makes things worse, and the text would need at least a footnote -- although, to be honest, I continue to believe Celtic Casimir is not an appropriate site to copy from or even merely to cite. More of a finding aid. --Werebear 23:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Robert Augustus Martin and Christiana Greene [24 November 2013]

Hi, I believe that Robert is my husbands great grandfather. Are you related? What I am trying to find out was after the death of his wife and son what did he do/where did he go? did he leave tasmania? Thanks--Smartin 23:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Isaac Jacobs [27 November 2013]

Hi, My Grandfather is Ivan William Brown. I am trying to trace my family tree and would be interested in any further information you may have.


Michael--Brownmd 01:31, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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THOMAS PEEL 1826 BOW LONDON [26 February 2014]


Huggins/Elsey [25 March 2014]

Hi, My Paternal Great grand parents were Harry and Jane (Elsey) Huggins. I noticed that you are also watching them too. ?? do we connect?

Regards Jane--MrsP 11:37, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Weller [6 April 2014]

Hi Shaz1 I am the granddaughter of Arthur Henry Weller born 20 February 1890 son of Arthur Weller and Emily Rickner,who came out to Australia and married Mary Agnes Martin. I would love to learn more about my English relatives. Regards Sue--Bundysue 14:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Womacks, Reeves and Whartons [15 May 2015]

Hi - Scilla Bunn's cousin here, Paul Womack of Diss.

I've just (6 months) started "doing" my family tree, and am about to start in the whole North Lopham + Kenninghall womack-reeve-wharton thing.

Dear God, we're inbred!

Paul (AKA BugBear)--Bugbear 11:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Dorothy Gene Brown [13 September 2015]

A few months ago Keith Chart told me he had been talking to a lady who was descended from John Charles Lloyd. I asked him to have her contact me but unfortunately he was very busy and didn't get around to it.

He did finally send me this link and I must say I was surprised at the information you had on my sister Dorothy Gene Brown and my brother Ronald Melvin Brown.

I can only assume when you see my name you will know who I am so please end the suspense and tell me who you are?

You can contact me at embahry@rogerscom

Eleanor Bahry nee Brown--Aylmer101 03:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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Butler, James Frederick and Taylor, Sybil Margaret [7 March 2016]

Hi Shaz My name's Jane. I noticed u r watching the Taylor family. Sybil Margaret Taylor and James Frederick Butler were my Great Grandparents - their daughter, Betty June, was my grandmother (dads mum). I have a lot of info on Sybils side of family but very bare on James'. If you'd like to msg me, we can maybe share some research. Hoping to hear from you. Jane--Jessicamuriel001 16:00, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

woods family kenninghall norfolk [25 April 2016]

hi are you realted to the woods family from kenninghall norfolk as i am a directed descendant from one of them


alison--Apater18 00:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Spencer George Wallis [26 May 2017]

Hi Shaz I am helping a friend with some research and she believes her ancestor could be the second wife of Spencer George Wallis and was wondering if you might have any information that could help her. I notice you say that he remarried after Mary Elizabeth Fuller died and left the children in an orphanage well it also appears that her ancestor did the same with her daughter to her first marriage so it looks as though they took off together leaving all the children behind so we were wondering if you know who Spencer's second wife was as we believe in could be her ancestor Mary Knight Many thanks--Icky 00:33, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Louis Theodore Canning [10 July 2017]

Hi Shaz1, I am researching the Mousley tree. I have a marriage in NZ 1936/ref. 553 for Amelia Elizabeth Mousley to Louis Canning. I then found them in the same grave in Purewa. I then found this site, with all your research. My question is in regard to the name "Ludkin"? Where did you find that ? Amelia Elizabeth Mousley was born Sept qtr 1883 St Saviour. London. FreeBDM 1d page 146. Only one family of Mousley came to NZ. And I would like to connect Amelia Elizabeth if I can.

Interested to hear your response. Regards, Howard--Danfan 03:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Shaz1,

I think I have partly answered my own query. It appears that Amelia Elizabeth Mousley married prior to 1915, to a man called Ludkin. She then married 1915/ref.14463 to a Anders Richard Anderson.  Dunno what happened, but she then married 1936 under her Maiden name on Internal Affairs. Luckily, the CD NZ Marriages has the Ludkin / Anderson / Canning connection.

Now I just have to find the marriage, Mousley / Ludkin.

Interesting !! Howard

Email sent with Rhonda Maher's email address.

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