User talk:Robinca



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Cary [12 August 2009]

Hello and welcome to WeRelate. I am delighted to see you here.
Thanks for adding James Cary's marriages. I started out to do that yesterday morning and with one thing and another never did get to it. One of those things was discovering the "Rulers of London" and trying to decipher the codes. Another was The Cary Project page I've been working on to keep track of the people I've entered. At some point I need breadcrumbs! I just copied it from a page in my user space to a public article so you can add to it too if you like. Your family will branch into different surnames so feel free to add any new sections you need. Every page has an associated talk page where you can leave a message for other researchers.

You've probably gotten a few emails by now about me touching the pages. When you added the families, you wound up with duplicates (something absolutely every one of us has done! They are working on the process to make it less confusing.) I just merged them so no problems there. I will go delete the old "james and unknown" family since it's not needed any more. Leave me a note if you need help with anything on this site. --Judy (jlanoux) 16:17, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Great stuff you have! [15 August 2009]

Hello, Robinca (RobinCA?).

Welcome to WeRelate. You've gotten off to a great start and you have some really wonderful information. Thank you for contributing it.

I'm one of many volunteer admin folks on WeRelate. We have a variety of jobs including checking out new pages added to the site, checking for consistency, merging duplicates, etc...

My task today is going through new pages. While doing so, I came across Person:William Hampton (9). You've got a lot of great information there. As you get more familiar with WeRelate, you'll probably start to notice how those Person pages that are "featured" on the home page follow a consistent format that you may want to consider for your own great pages.

Basically, the narrative is placed in the page's overall text box and sources are used for citation purposes only. Right now, you've got the bulk of the narrative in the citation boxes of the Sources. Also consider using the Notes fields text you may not want to include in the narrative. Here are some models you may wish to check out:

Happy to answer questions and point you in the direction of additional help.

Have fun!

-- jillaine 18:18, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

Dear Jilaine, Thank you for your comments and for 'fixing' some of my entries. I am very new at this Wiki-style and am learning as I go. I will have a look at those examples you have given me.

Looking at the changes you made, I guess if there is a general preference for "abt" rather than "c." for circa, I will be happy to go along with that. And I am glad you have fixed that "Probably At", which I did not type as such - but it kept re-appearing with the upper-case "A" on me - I don't know why!

Your "(on or before date)" is kind of okay, I guess! But I thought it read a lot better the way I had it before. Is there any significant reason for changing that? And we haven't even got to a situation where there are conflicting possibilities - each with their own 'sources'! Deal with that when I get to it - as I will have to, when I come to address the varied opinions on the dates of birth and parentage of James Cary (William Hampton's father-in-law).

As for the Will, I am not quite so happy with the changes you have made there. I do not like the repetition of 'London'. I'm afraid - and being from thereabouts - it looks and sounds silly to me. Sorry! But, where it is not correct to put a different name for the county - as in 'Middlesex', it should be left as just 'London' - written only once, for both city and county. 'England' is probably superfluous here too. But I don't object to that.

"Will written 14 Oct 1729; codicil 29 Oct 1740; proved this date" is rather confusing as it looks like that refers to the codicil date immediately preceding - and not to the probate date at the top: 23 July 1745. Also the location of London refers only to where the will was probated. He probably wrote it in Worth, Sussex, where he lived and was the rector - and where he is buried. So it is all a bit too confusing perhaps. Could we not have it as: "23 July 1745 / Proved (this date) at London. / Written (probably at Worth, Sussex) on 14 Oct 1729; with one codicil dated: 29 Oct 1740." (brackets and/or their contents optional)?

Do let me know what you think.

Having fun!

Cheers, Robin

P.S. <robinca> comes from my first name + initials 'c' for Cary and 'a' for Askew. My full name is Robin Cary Askew.--Robinca 19:26, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

Robin, I'm working on the William Hampton page. I have made some suggested changes. (they can be undone if you don't like them). Your "notes" you had as Source 2 are more like the "story" I mentioned. I have moved it to the "big box" (labelled personal history.) There is a nifty little tool to show citations to the listed sources. I have added them for you. It is called the "Cite template". To use it you type {{cite|S#}} where # is the source number. I keep a Cheat Sheet where I list the things I use so I can remember them. Feel free to bookmark it.

I worked on one of your will tags earlier today and was going to discuss, but I had to cancel my changes because I messed something else up on the page. My suggested approach is what I have done here. The will, codicil and probate are three different events happening on different dates and maybe in different places. I don't know what you want for the places. But re the problem you mention above... the wiki has recently been changed to automatically try to match your place to something in the database. (I just found out today) So you have to check on it as you go because it will tend to grab the first matching entry which may not be correct. They like to have places matched to the database because there are some neat things this can be used for. However, many of us do not believe places should be changed from what the original source said. The solution is that you can use a | and put your literal behind it. The back part is what will display on the screen. However, the front part will be used for geographic mapping. In the next release, these will become separate fields which will make life easier. I have changed the place on the probate so that it displays "London". (I agree that the London, London is absurd.) You can address the places for the other two will events (if you want to keep them.)

Any more questions or concerns, just ask.--Judy (jlanoux) 22:13, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

Speedy delete [1 December 2011]

Hello Robin, I noticed that you added a note to your Hermann Friedrich DÖRRIEN & his wife, Agneta WOLTERS page asking for it to be deleted. Since you were the only watcher on that page, that request would generally not have been noticed. To mark a page for deletion, you can use the Category:Speedy Delete template (there are instructions on that page). Also, most pages where you are the only watcher can be deleted by clicking on More>Delete. I went ahead and deleted both the article and its talk page. --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:22, 1 December 2011 (EST)

WeRelate Featured Page [14 January 2012]

Just wanted to let you know that your Person Page, Hermann Friedrich Dörrien has been nominated and selected by the WeRelate Administrators as this week's WeRelate Featured Page! Congratulations on a job well-done and keep up the good work!:)

Best regards,

Jim Volunteer Administrator at 15:46, 11 January 2012 (EST)

Dear Jim, thank you very much!

I have been a tad absent from the WeRelate pages over the Christmas holidays. But I will be getting back to them shortly. Lots more to be added, I am glad to say.

Kind regards - and Happy New Year!

Robin--Robinca 12:18, 14 January 2012 (EST)