User talk:Mperozziello

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Saxon family [14 April 2009]

I am a descendant of Alexander and Mary (Baldwin) Saxon and have a great deal of information about their desendants. Would you be interested in comparing notes?

Dawne--Dawne 16:46, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Thomas de Saundford, and the Westmorland family [17 May 2013]

My cousins and I have just recently traced the Westmorland Sandford family into Essex, in the person of George Saundford, Parson of Farnham, Essex and grandson/heir of Sir Bryan Sandforth, Knight, who fought in the Battle of Bosworth Field.

(We are the ones who first posted the WAC Sandford book to the Internet.)

We currently have a gap between this George, or possibly Edmund son of Nicholas son of Sir Bryan, and Thomas Sandford of Colchester (who appears in the Visitations). Per your post, "This branch has been documented as the origin of families in several other counties(Essex, York, Colchester)," it appears you have documentation of the descent into Essex, possibly from the founder of the Sandford Family Castle. May I ask you to share that information? We are seriously stuck in 16th century Essex.

We have very credible, but not yet definitively proven, evidence that we (the American Sanford family with origins in Westmoreland County, Virginia) are descended from Westmorland Sandfords who went into Yorkshire, then Essex, then London. Based on what we know, we would say that the Shropshire Sandfords and the Westmorland Sandfords are two different families, genetically. Neither we, nor the other American Sanfords (migrants to New England), are genetically related to the other English family, the Somerset Sanfords. (The current patriarch spells his name without the middle D.)

The New England Sanfords are genetically related to the Shropshire Sandfords, but no link has been found beyond ancestors in Hertsfordshire. There is a common misperception that they link to the ancient Shropshire line through Richard Sandford and Maud Mainwairing, but Burke's and other sources show that couple as having left no offspring.

Our opinion on Thomas de Saundford is that he was a real person and indeed the progenitor of the Shropshire line, but that he could not be Gerard de Tournay. Tournay left the land to this son-in-law, Hamo Perevel, who left no offspring. We assume Thomas de Saundford was a Norman invader who was given this land for service, and probably to secure the border. As we say informally, that grant may have been bestowed with the equivalent of: "Hey, kid! Want to be landed gentry? Here, watch this Welsh border."

I would be grateful to know what you know about Westmorland Sandfords in Essex.--Calif-Sanford 17:38, 17 May 2013 (EDT)