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- H. William Carpenter1599 - 1672
- W. Margaret Freeland (add)
m. 19 Jun 1626
Facts and Events
"William Carpenter of Cobham in Surrey, Esq." was a Gentleman of His Majesty's Honorable Privy Chamber, Extraordinary, and on 4 Mar 1663 was granted a Coat of Arms[6].
A 19th century researcher was "inclined to believe" that William was related to John Carpenter, Town Clerk of London[7]. This appears to have been based on a false understanding of the Coats of Arms of the 2 men[7]. There is no evidence for a relationship.
References
- ↑ Surrey, England. Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Merton, St Mary.
William Carpenter, son of Gregorie Carpenter, was baptized 12 Sep 1599 in Merton, St Mary
- ↑ Carpenter, Amos B. (Amos Bugbee). A genealogical history of the Rehoboth branch of the Carpenter family in America: brought down from their English ancestor, John Carpenter, 1303 : with many biographical notes of descendants and allied families - aka: Carpenter Memorial. (Reprint: Salt Lake City, Utah - Original: Amherst, MA: Reprint: Genealogical Society of Utah - Originial printing: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Reprint: 1963 - Original: 1898)
p. 28.
'In Cobham, in the County of Surrey, in the Notre Chancel, on a flat stone is inscribed:
"Here lyeth interred ye body of William Carpenter, Gent., who died ye 17th day of May, 1672, in the 73d year of his age." '[i.e., at age 72]
- ↑ Surrey, England. Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Cobham, St Andrew.
William Carpenter was buried 20 May 1672 in Cobham, St Andrew
- Bysshe, Edward, and George John Armytage (ed.). A visitation of the county of Surrey, begun anno dni. MDCLXII., finished anno dni. MDCLXVIII. (London: Harleian Society, 1910)
p. 25.
John Carpenter of West Barnes in Com. Surry, gt.
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Gregory Carpenter of West Barnes in Com. Surry, gt. [who married] Agnes da. of John Wadebrook in Com. Surry, gt.
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William Carpenter of Cobham in Com. Surry Ar. Gentleman of his Majesties honoble privy Chamber 1662 [who married] Margaret only da. of Will. Freeland of Ockham in Com. Surry.
This entry shows the so-called "Greyhound" Arms awarded to William, and is signed by William Carpenter. It eliminates any speculation over the lineage of William of Cobham.
- will of William Carpenter, in Church of England. Prerogative Court of Canterbury, and Ancestry.com (comp.). England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 [database]. (Provo, Utah, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, 2013).
will dated 30 Jan 1670, proved 11 Jun 1672
No direct heirs. His wife Margaret is named as his sole executrix.
The will makes a bequest to (among many other) "my kinsman, Edward Foster of Marten in the County of Surrey, Yeoman".
A transcript is found in Amos Carpenter's book on pages 27-28.
- ↑ Carpenter, Amos B. (Amos Bugbee). A genealogical history of the Rehoboth branch of the Carpenter family in America: brought down from their English ancestor, John Carpenter, 1303 : with many biographical notes of descendants and allied families - aka: Carpenter Memorial. (Reprint: Salt Lake City, Utah - Original: Amherst, MA: Reprint: Genealogical Society of Utah - Originial printing: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Reprint: 1963 - Original: 1898)
p. 29.
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 Carpenter, Amos B. (Amos Bugbee). A genealogical history of the Rehoboth branch of the Carpenter family in America: brought down from their English ancestor, John Carpenter, 1303 : with many biographical notes of descendants and allied families - aka: Carpenter Memorial. (Reprint: Salt Lake City, Utah - Original: Amherst, MA: Reprint: Genealogical Society of Utah - Originial printing: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Reprint: 1963 - Original: 1898)
pp. 31, 827.
p. 31: "Following up this line of discovery the compiler learned from his agent in England, that William Carpenter of Cobham, who died without heirs in 1672, was a descendant of the family to which John and Gregory Carpenter of West Barnes, Surrey, belonged. ... William of Cobham was without a doubt the son of Alexander, ..."
Carpenter here twists the words of his agent in England, who believed that John and Gregory were the ancestors of William of Cobham, not just members of the same family.
p. 827, quoting from a letter by John P. Jaynes, the lawyer who was hired to research the Carpenter family in England:
"I now send you some extracts concerning the pedigree of the Carpenter families, and I am of the opinion that John and Gregory Carpenter of West Barnes, Surrey County, the ancestors of William of Cobham to whom the "Greyhound" Coat of Arms was granted in 1663, are the descendants of the Tyrconnel stock of Carpenters [that is, John and Gregory shared ancestors with the Earls of Tyrconnel, who were born in the 1700's (see Wikipedia)]. ..."
This opinion was undoubtedly formed based on the following, from another letter from John P. Jaynes (also on p. 827):
" ... The Arms were granted [to William Carpenter of Cobham] in 1663 and are a branch extracted from the Arms of John Carpenter, Town Clerk of London, and I am inclined to believe that nearly all the Carpenter families are descendant of John the brother of John Carpenter, the town clerk, who died about 1442. ... The Tyrconnel Arms of John Delavalle Carpenter are also extracted from the Arms of John Carpenter, Town Clerk."
NOTE: The description of the Arms of William of Cobham being "a branch extracted from the Arms of John Carpenter, Town Clerk of London" makes one wonder if Jaynes was mistakenly shown the wrong Arms for one of these men, or if he was confusing two lines of inquiry.
The formal description of the Arms of William of Cobham is:
ARMS Argent, a Grayhound passent, and Chief Sable
CREST A Grayhounds head, erased per fesse Sable and argent
(for a sketch and description of the terms, see pages 28a-29)
The description of the Arms of John, Town Clerk is:
Paly of six, argent and gules, on a chevron azure, 3 cross crosslets or
for an illustration, see the Wikipedia article on John Carpenter (town clerk)
They are nothing alike: The only thing in common is the use of argent (silver or white).
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