Person:Walter Todman (1)

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Walter Todman
b.Abt 1866 Essex, England
d.14 Oct 1929 Prahran, Victoria, Australia
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m. 16 Jan 1892
  1. Martha "Ruby" Todman1894 - 1956
  2. Ivy Florence Todman1895 - 1953
  3. Walter Victor Todman1897 - 1964
  4. Hazel May Todman1903 - 1964
  5. Lincoln James Todman1906 - 1938
  6. Charlotte Mary Todman1908 - 1908
  7. Alma Dudley Todman1910 - 1970
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Name Walter Todman
Gender Male
Birth? Abt 1866 Essex, England
Other[5][36] 1891 9 Bailey Street, Newtown, , New South Wales, AustraliaSands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia Directory - residence
Immigration[2][10][11][12][39] Abt 1892 , , Victoria, Australia
Residence[6][37] 1892 Hawthorn, , Victoria, Australia
Marriage 16 Jan 1892 St Kilda, Victoria, AustraliaAll Saints Church
to Martha Sarah Ellis
Occupation[6][7][8][9][38] From 1892 to 1895 Blacksmith
Other[13] 1893 Constanza Terrace, 8 Coppin St Rd, Richmond, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - residence
Other[14] 1894 27 Arthur St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - residence
Other[40] 10 Dec 1895 The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954), Tuesday 10 December 1895, page 5 Newspaper
Other[15] 1896 Palmero Place, 3 Palmero Street, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - residence
Other[16][41] From 1896 to 1897 576-578 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaPrahran Rates Book Rates - next door properites
Other[16][42] From 1897 to 1898 576-580 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaPrahran Rates Book Rates - next door properites
Other[17][43] From 1898 to 1901 576-578 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - residence
Other[16][44] From 1898 to 1901 578-580 Chapel Street, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaPrahran Rates Book Rates - next door properites
Other[18] 1899 578 Chapel Street, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaEngineer in the Federal Referendum Electoral Rolls
Other[16][45] From 1901 to 1910 576-580 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaPrahran Rates Book
Other[18] From 1902 to 1910 576 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaEngineer Electoral Rolls
Other[19][46] From 1902 to 1910 576-578 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - residence
Other[20][47] 1903 576 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaElectoral Rolls
Other[21][48] 1907 576-578 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaSands & McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory Directory - work
Other[18] 1910 576 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaEngineer Electoral Rolls
Other[49] 9 Apr 1910 The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954), Saturday 9 April 1910, page 4 Newspaper
Other[50] 1 Nov 1910 The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954 , page 4 Newspaper
Other[22][51] 14 Dec 1910 Insolvency notice in the Victoria Governement Gazzette
Other[16][23][52] From 1910 to 1911 360 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaPrahran Rates Book – City of Prahran, Sth Yarra Ward
Other[18] From 1912 to 1921 360 Chapel St, South Yarra, , Victoria, AustraliaEngineer Electoral Rolls
Other[24] 29 Aug 1916 Chelsea Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, AustraliaPurchased Property
Other[25][53] 30 Mar 1920 Chelsea Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, AustraliaSold Property
Other[26][54] 5 Sep 1921 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #1011523) Purchased Property
Other[55] 11 Oct 1921 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, AustraliaRound 1 Mortgage 1(instrument #432882)
Other[56] 15 Nov 1921 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, AustraliaRound 1 Mortgage 2 (instrument #4347213[not sure of last number])
Other[57] 12 Jul 1922 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, AustraliaMortgage 1 (instrument #458198)
Other[27][28][58] 12 Jul 1922 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, AustraliaPurchased Property
Other[59] 12 Oct 1922 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, AustraliaRound 1 Mortgage 3(instrument #458198)
Residence[29][18][60] 1923 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, Australiahe appears to have moved into his workshop to live
Other[18] From 1922 to 1929 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, AustraliaEngineer Electoral Rolls
Other[30][61] 1924 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, AustraliaElectoral Rolls
Other? 15 Oct 1924 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, Australiaall three initial mortgages were discharged Mortgage
Other[62] 15 Oct 1924 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #502665) Mortgage
Other? 15 Oct 1924 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, Australiadischarge of initial mortgage on the property Mortgage
Other[63] 22 Dec 1924 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #508094) Mortgage
Other[64] 22 Dec 1924 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #508094) Mortgage
Other[65] 2 May 1925 The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954), Saturday 2 May 1925, page 2 Newspaper
Death[1][2] 14 Oct 1929 Prahran, Victoria, Australia3 Cato Street, Cause: Arteriosclerosis, Acute Heart Failure
Burial[3] 15 Oct 1929 Springvale, Victoria, AustraliaSpringvale Botanical Cemetery, SE-Mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.necropolis.com.au The Necropolis Springvale PO Box 1159 RMDC Clayton, Vic 3169 Australia
Other[31][66] 15 Oct 1929 Melbourne Argus Newspaper
Other[32][67] 15 Oct 1929 The Argus Newspaper
Other[33][68] 18 Jul 1930 3 Cato Street, Prahran, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #1461792 of which we have a copy) Sold Property
Other[34][69] 6 Mar 1936 Point Nepean Road, Chelsea, , Victoria, Australia(instrument #1605933 of which we have a copy) Sold Property
Other[4][3][35] The Necropolis Springvale, Princes Highway, Springvale, , Victoria, AustraliaChurch of England - Monumental, Compartment N Section 11 Grave 17 Gravesite

Nothing is really known about Walter Todman before his marriage to Martha Sarah Ellis in 1892.

(Research):Establishing where Walter Todman was born:- 1894 on his daughter's Martha's b/c Essex, England 1895 on his daughter's Ivy Florence b/c Stepheney, London 1897 on his son's Walter Victor b/c Surrey, England 1903 on his daughter's Hazel May's b/c Essex, England 1906 on his son's Lincoln James b/c Essex, England 1908 on his daughter's Charlotte Mary b/c Norfolk, England 1910 on his daughter's Alma Dudley b/c Norfolk, England

On all birth certificates the informant was Martha Todman, mother; although the place of birth is always different his age is always consistent with being born in 1866.

A second Walter Todman? we had found a Walter Todman who fathered a Walter Todman in 1890 with a Jane Levey. This Walter Todman was born in Norfolk, England who was 25 years old at the time therefore being born c 1865. A possible match for our Walter. (note Walter and Jane were not married)

The address listed was 9 Bailey Street, Newtown

Pros as to why this might be our Walter Todman

  • the potential birth of both Walter's is almost the same
  • Norfolk is listed as one of the possible birth places of our Walter and is listed as the birth place of this second Walter Todman
  • He is also a blacksmith

[We have been unable to find the marriage or death of a Jane Levey or her son Walter todman in N.S.W or Vic; perhaps Jane did marry or take some elses name and changed her son's name to that surname also?]

[Efforts to try and establish whether these two Walter Todman's are the same person Tried to locate the locate Walter Todman in NSW after/before 1890 particularly at 9 Bailey Street, Newtown. By following his movements it was hoped that we would be able to distinguish between the two Walter's if they weren't the same person Records that we consulted while in NSW were:- 1. 1891 NSW Census - taken on 16th April 1891. 9 Bailey Street Newtown was uninhabited. This could indicate a number of things, that after Walter Todman son of Jane Levey and Walter Todman was born the couple moved from the house either together or separately. 2. Sydney Sands Postal Directory - 1888 - 1890 did not list a Walter Todman at any location. In 1890 the person living at 9 Bailey Street, Newtown was Miss Mary A Currey. This could mean that Miss Currey lived by herself or was incharge of a boarding house or ??. If the dwelling was a boarding house or similiar Walter and/or Jane could have lived there as well. There was Todmans listed in the Directory including a George F Todman and in 1890 a Herman Todman, neither of these were living near Newtown. 3. Electoral Role 1889 - 1890 no Walter Todman listed. In 1889 a George Todman was listed (not ours as far as we can establish)]

A Jane Todman shows up on Sand and Macdougall directory in coburg in 1907 only. This may only be a coincidence - but if this was infact Jane Levy, her son Walter would have been about to turn 18 perhaps she had appeared to collect his share of his inheritance or something.

Cons

  • why would you call a second son by the same name? ie Walter Victor Todman by the same name as your first son?

Possibility that Walter Todman was not his original name Written by Simon Todman Who was Walter Todman. This is probably the most perplexing question in the Family tree. Evidences points to the person of James Lincoln Temple Willoughby. Finding out if Walter was James relies in several facts he left behind him .

Fact 1 His age. Walter died in October 1929 aged 63. Documentation on the birth certificates of his children states that he was born either late 1865 or early 1866. English records listed on the indicate that there were only two Walter Todman's born between Mar 1860 and Dec 1870, they were 

1.Walter Todman - reference Births Mar 1866 Greenwich  1d 711
2.Walter  Todman - reference Births Sep 1865  Hambledon  2a 109
died in 1887 and the other in 1959.  James Lincoln Temple Willoughby was born 1/11/1865.

Fact 2 His occupation. Walter was a blacksmith as was James LincolnTemple Willoughby.

Fact 3 His father's occupation. On his marriage certificate Walter's father was a ropemaker , James Lincoln Willoughby.father Charles was a ropemaker.

Fact 4 Family legend states that Walter changed his name from Willoughby to Todman. Todman is a rare name . James Lincoln Willoughby mother was Mary Ann Ramsey Todman.

Fact 5 The only marriage I have found between a Willoughby and a Todman occured in 1854 when Charles Willoughby married Mary Ann Ramsey Todman in Gillingham Kent.

Fact 6 On his marriage certificate Walter's mother was Mary Ann Willoughby. [Possibility - James Lincoln Temple Willoughby's mother was Mary Ann Willoughby (nee Todman).]

Fact 7 On his marriage certificate Walter's father was Walter Todman. I have not found any proof of any Walter Todman being old enough to be the father of Walter 1866. The first Walter I have found was born in 1852.

Fact 8 1890 saw Walter Todman 24 sire a baby in Sydney . He was listed as a blacksmith from Norfolk. 1892 saw Walter Todman 26 get married in Melbourne . He was listed as a blacksmith from Essex. James Lincoln Willoughby was born in Bermondsey Kent and the family moved to Essex when he was 4.

Fact 9 Walter's 2nd son was christened Lincoln James Todman . Is this a cue of a previous identity of James Lincoln Temple Willoughby.

Fact 10 Walter's watch was given to Lincoln James Todman. The initials are J.L.T.W. Is this another cue of a previous identity of James Lincoln Temple Willoughby.

Fact 11 Lincoln's death certificate lists his father as Walter James Todman.

Fact 12 James Lincoln Temple Willoughby's grandmothers name was Charlotte. Walter Todman's 4th daughter (who died in infancy) was called Charlotte Mary - maybe after his granmother and mother.

References
  1. ↑ Death Certificate Walter Todman, 14 October 1929, Reference 15938, Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Vic. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Death Certificate Extract Walter Todman, 14 October 1929, Reference ( ), Registry of Birth, Death and Marriage. (Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 Trustees of the Necroplis, Springvale. Certificate of Right of Burial in The Necroplis, Springvale, No. of Order 22899. (27 June 1930, The Necroplis, Springvale (Photocopy of Original Record))
    Burial Plot Compartment N Section 11 No.17.

    Quality: 4 Reference number: DDT0001

  4. ↑ The Springvale Necroplis website. (Deceased database accessed at http://www.necropolis.com.au; has information regarding Springvale and St Kilda Cemeteries)
    Reference Number 34165.

    Surname TODMAN; Given Names WALTER; Date of Service 15/10/1929; Reference Number 34165; Burial Type Burial; Cemetery Springvale; Location Church of England - Monumental, Compartment N Section 11 Grave 17; Tenure Expiry Date Perpetuity

  5. ↑ Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia
    1891 District: Newtown Page No: 289.

    Aylesbury street
    Off Missenden road
    Holly Jonathan, gardener
    Fenton James

    Bailey street-East side
    Enmore road to Holt street
    1 Hutchinson Mrs. 3 Petch Samuel
    5 Elson H. C.
    Fuller John
    7 Cronk John
    9 Todman Walter
    13 Vipan Henry
    15 Matheson A., slater
    17 Butler John H., carpenter
    19 Hallett Mary, dressmaker
    21 Ockenden Horace coachbuilder

  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria. Certificate of Marriage Walter Todman Martha Ellis 16 January 1892 Reference 345. (Original a in family papers of Myrtle Sharp. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
  7. ↑ Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia. Birth Certificate Martha Todman. (Year 1894, #1801, Original a certified copy and held by Andrea Buckley. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
  8. ↑ Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia. Birth Certificate Ivy Florence Todman. (1895, Reference# 32737 Original a certified copy and held by Andrea Todman. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
  9. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman.
  10. ↑ New South Wales Letters Patent - Improvements in the construction and working of a machine for shearing sheep. (National Archives of Australia, Patent Office, A4618 Retrospective copies of specifications of inventions for Letters Patent, granted between 1887 and 1904 (made c1905) (2) Applications for provisional certificates and Letters Patent (from c1903 to 1904) (3) Assignments of Letters Patent, granted between 1887 and 1904, (from c1905), Item 2663 National Archives Website at www.naa.gov.au <http://www.naa.gov.au>).
  11. ↑ Correspondence with applicant Walter Todman concerning invention entitled - An improvement in the construction. (National Archives of Australia, Patent Office, A4618 National Archives Website at www.naa.gov.au).
  12. ↑ New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
    26005/1890, WALTER TODMAN.

    26005/1890, TODMAN, WALTER; father WALTER; Mother JANE; birthplace NEWTOWN

  13. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1893 p. 1108.

    1893
    Alphabetical Listing p. 1108
    Todman Walter, Constanza Terr 8 Coppin St Rd

    Trade Listing
    No listing

    Suburban Listing
    Richmond
    Swan St Railway
    Constanza Terr
    1Higgins, Joseph
    2Vacant
    3Bastian M-S-K
    4Lowe Ralph
    5Collins Frederick
    6Ham William
    7Williamson Alex
    8Todman Walter
    Coppin St East side - close by Wall St, Rose St, Berlin St, Then Coppin St Westside- Highett St

  14. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1894 p.1109.

    1894
    Trade Listing
    No Todman Listed

    Alphabetical listing p.1109
    Todman Walter, 27 Arthur St Sth Yarra

    Suburban Listing
    South Yarra
    Arthur St - Nside
    Chapel St
    27 Todman Walter
    25 Basterfield George
    23 Ryan, Miss Johanna
    William St Railway S-side
    Chapel St
    60Smith M-s. M
    58. Dermott, Robert W
    52 Wright Thomas L
    50 Usher, James
    46 Cunningham, Henry
    Right of Way
    Arthur terr
    Aurthur St West
    Fawkner Park
    O'Brien James St. Kilda Rd

  15. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1896 p.1135.

    1896
    Alphabetical Listing p.1135
    Todman Walter 3 Palmero-pl of Palmero-st South Yarra

    Suburban Listing p.497
    South Yarra
    Palmermo St -Nside
    Chapel St
    Palermo place
    1.Morgan, Lewis
    2.Dugman, jas A.
    3.Todman Walter
    4.Birmingham W
    31 Stubber, Miss laldies school
    Palermo St-S-side
    Chapel St
    2.Grogan J. Bootmaker
    5.Triggs W.H dairy
    Right of way

  16. ↑ 16.0 16.1 16.2 16.3 16.4 Prahran Rates Book South Yarra, City of Prahran.
  17. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    Trade listing 1898 p.1209; 1899 p.1219; 1900p.1239; 1901 Al phabetical Listing p.1274 & Suburban Listing p.1564; 1902 S uburbian Listing; 1903 Alphabetical Listing p1383;.

    1898
    Trades Listing
    p.1209
    Todman Walter mechanical engineer 578 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    South Yarra
    Toorak Rd
    600 Rechart Fred K furn. Warehouse
    594 Vacant
    592 Williams Fred - Chemist
    590 Moller Edw fruiter
    588 Long J tavacconist
    586 Hardman W ?
    584 Vacant
    582 Stubbington, Charles tailor
    578 Todman Walter engineer
    576 Searle Hy French polisher
    574½ Sleight, Mrs J. E. Undertaker
    1899
    Alphabetical Listing
    p. 1219
    Todman, Walter 578 Chapel St Sth Yarra

    1900
    Alphabetical Listing
    p.1239
    Todman, W. mechanical engineer, 578 Chapel St S Yarra

    Suburban Listing
    594 Vacant
    592 William Fred A Chemist
    Moller Edw fruiter
    588 Rony K Tobascconist
    586 Hardeman W. Sadeller
    Searle H French polisher
    582 Stubbington C tlr
    Todman W engineer
    576 McDonald, Ronald
    Nihill Sarah Miss ????
    574½ Rogers Mrs & Miss dressmakers

    1901
    Alphabetical Listing p.1274
    Todman, W. mechanical engineer 578 Chanpel St SY

    Suburban Listing p.1564
    Chapel St East side
    600 Reinhardt, Fred O. Furn.warehouse
    594 Vacant
    592 Williams Fred. A. Chemist
    590 Birch Mrs Catherine
    588 Long Mrs J tobacconist
    586 Searle H french polisher
    582 Stubbingham C tlr.
    Todman. W. Engnr
    Petherick Ernest
    574½ Rogers Mrs & Miss dressmakers

    1902
    Alphabetical Listing p.1551
    Todman W.engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    Chapel St East side
    600 Reinhardt, Fred.O furnr warehouse
    592 Williams Fred. A Chemist
    590 Birch Mrs C. confectioner
    Rowland H. tobaconist & haridresser
    Heindman W Sadeller
    584 Searle H french polisher
    578 Todman W. engineer
    574a Cox A joiner
    574 Williams F fancy goods wholesaler
    Trade Listing
    Enginer p.1513
    Todman W. 576 Chapel St Sth yarra

    1903
    Alphabetical Listing p1383
    Todman W. engineer 578 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Trade Listing
    p.1558
    Todman W.engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    590 Birch Mrs C. confectioner
    588 Brownless. Wm F dairy produce
    586 Heindman W Sadeller
    584 Searle H French polisher
    578 Todman W. eng & Cycle and motor car maker
    574a Cox Aif. E. joiner
    574 Williams Fk fancy goods shop

  18. ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 18.3 18.4 18.5 Electoral Rolls - Todman.
  19. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1902 Alphabetical Listing p.1551 & Trade Listing Enginer p .1513; 1903 Trade Listing p.1558, 1904 Alphabetical Listin g p.1413, Suburban Listing p.587 & Trade Listing p. 1589; 1 905 Alphabetical Listing p.1449 & Trade Listing p.1634.

    1902
    Alphabetical Listing p.1551
    Todman W.engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    Chapel St East side
    600 Reinhardt, Fred.O furnr warehouse
    592 Williams Fred. A Chemist
    590 Birch Mrs C. confectioner
    Rowland H. tobaconist & haridresser
    Heindman W Sadeller
    584 Searle H french polisher
    578 Todman W. engineer
    574a Cox A joiner
    574 Williams F fancy goods wholesaler
    Trade Listing Enginer p.1513
    Todman W. 576 Chapel St Sth yarra
    1903
    Alphabetical Listing
    p1383
    Todman W. engineer 578 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Trade Listing p.1558
    Todman W.engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    590 Birch Mrs C. confectioner
    588 Brownless. Wm F dairy produce
    586 Heindman W Sadeller
    584 Searle H French polisher
    578 Todman W. eng & Cycle and motor car maker
    574a Cox Aif. E. joiner
    574 Williams Fk fancy goods shop
    1904
    Alphabetical Listing p.1413
    Todman W. engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing p.587
    600 Reinhardt, Fred.O. furn. warehouse
    592 Johns Thomas Chemist
    590 Birch confectioner
    588 Maddick & Saller, gas stove manf.
    586 Heindman W Sadeller
    Searle H french polisher
    Stubbington Chas tailor
    Todman W. eng & cycle & motor car maker
    574a Cox Alf joiner
    574 Williams F fancy goods wholesaler
    Trade Listing p. 1589
    Engineers & machinists
    576 Chapel St Sth Yarra

    1905
    Alphabetical Listing p.1449
    Toddman Walter engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Trade Listing p.1634
    Engineer & machinist
    Todman W 576 Chapel St
    Suburban Listing p.558
    Chapel St Eside
    600 Stackhouse, Mrs F & Patterson & Miss Kate dressmakers
    592 Johns Thomas Chemist C. confectioner
    588 Bennett jas uphol.
    586 Hardman W Sadeller
    584 Carolls Bros mnfrs
    582 Stubbington Chas tailor
    580 Todman W. eng & cycle & motor car maker
    574a Vacant

  20. ↑ Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936. ([database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll]. Microform mc N 451-mc N 457. National Library of Australia, Canberra, Australia.)
    Electoral Year: 1903, State: Victoria, District: Southern M elbourne, Subdistrict: South Yarra.
  21. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    Yr 1898 p.1209; Yr 1899 p.1219; 1900 p.1239; 1901 p. 127 4 & p.1564; Yr1902 p.1551; 1903 p.1383 & p.1558; 1904 p.141 3 & p.576; Yr1905 p.1449 & p.1634; 1906 p.1522 & p.604; 190 7 p.1613 & 1813 p.580; Yr1910, p.1523, p.1726 & p.616 Yr191 1 p.1499.
  22. ↑ The Victoria Government Gazette. (July 9 (1851)-no. 109 (Dec. 31, 1986), Melbourne Govt. Printer 1851-1986 La Trobe Reading Room (Australiana))
    Gazette 159, Date: Wednesday, December 14th 1910 Page 5540.
  23. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1910 Trade Listing p. 1726; 1911 Alphabetical Listing p.1499.

    1910
    Alphabetical Listing
    p. 1523
    Todman Wltr engineer 576 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Trade Listing p. 1726
    Engineer & Machinist
    Todman W. 474 Chapel St Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    p.616
    574a Rogers J. dairy pro.
    576 Todman, Wlter, mechanical engineer
    582 Stubbington Chas tailor
    584 Cardis A. L. sauce mfr & grocer

    1911
    Alphabetical Listing p.1499
    Todman, Walter engineer 474 Cahpel St Sth Yarra p?? 48 Garden St Sth Yarra

  24. ↑ Land Title
    Vol 3991 folio 798128.
  25. ↑ Transfere of Land Document
    932169.
  26. ↑ Land Title
    Vol 1917 Folio 256.
  27. ↑ Land Title
    Vol4655 Folio 879.
  28. ↑ Transfere of Land Document
    1054568.
  29. ↑ Dir Sands McDougall's Melbourne and Suburban Directory - Todman
    1923 fiche 1309; 1924 Fiche 13498; 1925 fiche 1391; 1926 p . 1926; 1927 fiche 1454; 1929 fiche 1540.

    1923
    Fiche 1309
    Alphabetical Listing
    Todman , Walter - mechanical engineer 3 Cato St Prahran
    Suburban Listing
    W side of Chatham 27
    1 Poyner Wm G
    3 Todman, Walter mechanical engineer
    5 Thomas, Charles
    23 Maclellan + co
    Wattle St
    Commercial Rd
    E side Cato Rd
    8 Yooman's photos wksh
    356, Butcher
    Old residence
    360 Chapel St, Baby Car House
    perainbulator manufacturer
    360 Higgenbotham
    1924
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1349
    Todman, Chas 1. 61 Queens Rd Melbourne
    Todman, Walter mech engineer 3 Cato St Prahran
    Suburban Listing
    West side
    1 poyner Wm C
    3 Todman, Walter - mech engineer
    5 Thomas, Charles
    1925
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1391
    Todman, Chas 1. 61 Queens Rd Melbourne
    Todman, Walter, cycle builder, Glen Huntley Rd, Caul
    Todman, Walter, mech-engineer, 3 Cato St Prahran
    Suburban Listing
    Fiche 1432
    1 Poyner, wn G
    3 Todman, Walter mech-engineer
    1926
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1432
    Todman, Walter, mech-engineer 3 Cato St Prahran
    Suburban Listing
    Fiche 1410
    Same neighbours
    1927
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1476
    Todman, Walter 3 Cato St Prahran + 637 chapel St, Sth Yarra
    Suburban Listing
    Fiche 1454
    Chapel St, Alexandra Crescent
    637 Todman, Walter mech-engineer
    1928
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1509
    Todman, Walter, 3 Cato St Prahran
    1929
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1540
    Todman, Walter 3 Cato St Prahran
    Suburban Listing
    Todman, Walter, engineer, 481 Glenhuntly Rd Caul
    1930
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1571
    Todman, Walter bkr 105 commercial Rd SY
    1931
    Alphabetical Listing
    Todman, Lincoln 9 teak St Caulfield SE Y
    1932
    Alphabetical Listing
    Fiche 1630
    Todman, Lincoln 9 teak St Caulfield SE Y
    Todman, Walter V 6 Thomson St Oak SE 12

  30. ↑ Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936. ([database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll]. Microform mc N 451-mc N 457. National Library of Australia, Canberra, Australia.)
    1924, State: Victoria; District: Fawkner; Subdistrict: Prah ran.
  31. ↑ The Argus
    15th October 12929 p.21.

    Todman - On the 14th octover, at his residence No. 3 Cato street, Prahran, Walter, much beloved husband of Martha Sarah Todman, loved father of Ruby, Ivy, Victor, Hazel, ><incoln, and Alma aged 53 years.
    Deeply regretted Reference number: NPT0002

  32. ↑ The Argus
    15 Oct 1929 page 21.

    TODMAN - The Friends of WLATER TODMAN of No. 3 Cato street, Prahran, are informed that his funeral notice will proceed per mortuary tram, leaving No. 10 platform, Flinders street, THIS DAY (Tuesday), at 1.40 o'clock, for interment in the Necropolis, Springvale.
    RAYBOULDS, Funeral Directors, Prahran. Phone Win. 17. Reference number: NPT0002

  33. ↑ Transfere of Land Document
    1461792.
  34. ↑ Transfere of Land Document
    1605933.
  35. ↑ There is no headstone.

    Walter is buried with his wife who was known as Martha Simpson at the time of her death.
  36. ↑ `
    The Sands Directory was a residential and business directory for the City and Suburbs of Sydney, published between 1858 and 1932. Walter Todman can only be found listed in the 1831 Directory
  37. ↑ at the time of his marriage to Martha.
  38. ↑ from the time of his marriage, and for the birth of his first two children. He had no independent listing in the trade section of the Sands & McDougall postal directory, so it is possible that he was not yet self-employed at this stage and instead was working for someone.
  39. ↑ However, when and how he arrived in Victoria has not yet been established. There are several patents applied for by a Walter Todman in New South Wales, but as yet we are not sure if they are our Walter Todman. It could be that Walter was in Sydney before coming to Melbourne. It is also thought that he may have had a partner (who he never married) and a child called Walter born in 1890
    The signature on the Patent appears to be the same signature as our Walter Todman's signature.
  40. ↑ DOMESTIC TROUBLES.

    EXTRAORDINARY REMARKS ßY A

    JUSTICE OF THE PEACH.

    Walter Todman was charged before the Prahran Police Court yesterday with leaving his wife, Martha Todman, without means of support Complainant, in her evidence, said her husband, who was a waiter, was in the habit ot handing her his earnings each week, but on Sunday week be refused to give her any money, and since then she could not live with him on account of his temper and disgusting language.

    The Chairman (Dr. Featherston, J.P.) - Rubbish! You married the man for better or worse, and must put up with it.

    Mrs. Todman admitted having Struck her husband with some baby's clothes.

    Dr. Featherston. - I think it is your own fault. Few men can stand a slap in the face.

    Mrs. Todman.-I will keep myself if he will support the children.

    Dr. Featherston.-It Is a pity you did not think of this before you were married. The best thing would be to put you both in a bag and shake you up together. I think the defendant is a bit of a mule.

    An order was made for the payment of 20s. per week, defendant to find one surety of £25 for the fulfilment of the order.
  41. ↑ Both buildings were brick with 6 rooms each, and valued at £40.
    The original person listed for 576 in the rates book was Reinhardt Fredrick but his name was subsquently crossed out during the year and replaced by Walter Todman's name.
  42. ↑ Walter had expanded his rental properties during the year by having taken over 580.
  43. ↑ The family lived in the first building and set-up a workshop next door in 578.
  44. ↑ It appears that Walter has relinquished his extra rental property of 576 in 1898 as his name had crossed out in the rates book and replace by another person name.
  45. ↑ Once again Walter has begun to rent 576, his business must have been expanding.
  46. ↑ his workshop appears to have doubled inside and the family have moved into a new premises next door to his workshop
  47. ↑ 1. Martha Sarah Todman
    2. Walter Todman
  48. ↑ The following Advertisement appeared
    "Mechanical engneer and machinist, builder of the Todman motors and bicycles, 576-580 Chapel-st S. Yarra and the Trade Listing Walter was listed as "Builder of the "Todman" motor and bicycle; brass and iron founder; enamelling and nickel plating done; 576-580 Chapel-street, South Yarra".
  49. ↑ MOTOR CARS - Repaired Motor Cycles Built Accessories, &c.; Bicycles built to order from 2 6 a week No I Todman. Walter Todman, Chapel-st., S. Yarra
  50. ↑ DIVERGENT ESTIMATES OF SPEED.

    Leslie Muir, mechanic, employed at Todman's motor-garage, Chapel-street, South Yarra, waa next charged with having driven at a dangerous pace. Constables Mooney and Irwin sald that on October 5, at 20 minutes past 4 p.m., defendant drove a motor-car along Toorak-road, from St. George's road to Orrong-road (440 yards), in 42sec, or at the rate of 21 1/2 miles an hour. Defendant and Walter Todman gave evidence that the car had been left nt the garage for repairs. They judged the speed to be only about 14 miles per hour, as the clutch was out of order. A fine of 40/ was imposed.
  51. ↑ The Insolvency Act - IN THE MATTER OF W. TODMAN of Chapel St, South Yarra, mechanical Engineer, whose estate was assigned on the 4th day of November 1910.
    A first and final dividend is intended to be declared in the above matter. Creditors who have not proved their debts by the 30 December 1910, will be excluded.
    Dated this 12th day of December 1910.
    A.H.Outhwaite, Trustee, c/o Young & Outhwaite, accountatns and trade assignees, 410 Collins St, Melbourne.
  52. ↑ a weatherboard with 6 rooms. He has moved from 576-580 Chapel Street, he appears to have moved out. He takes over 360 Chapel st with an Edward Wills who is a cycle engineer and the tenant is Walter Coates, owner John Cucan & Co Collins St.

    It looks as though he was going to move into 474/476 Chapel St however did not, his name was replaced by Peacock Gordon, gentleman moved in May 1911 the property. owner Lawrence Preston tenant (written above in different handwritting - motor hire & repair company).
  53. ↑ Walter sells the property to Henry Freeman Smith of Clifton Hill for 250 pounds, making a 170 pound profit.
  54. ↑ Walter bought this property from Robert Arthur Lacey. for ??
  55. ↑ to Lucy Curben(?difficult to read) Walker (this probably the same Lucy Jane Curwen Walker who died yr1994 #10055). This is the first of 3 intial mortgages that appear to be taken out on this property.
  56. ↑ to Milton Livingstone Davey (this probably the same Milton Livingstone Davey who died yr1938 #1234) This is the second of 3 intial mortgages that appear to be taken out on this property.
  57. ↑ It appears that after buying the property that he then mortgaged on the same day to the following people - Lilian Elizabeth Smith, Annie Jane Orr and Milton Livingstone Davey.
    (It looks as though there is a "joint mortage" on both 3 Cato Street, Prahran and the property on Point Nepean Road, Chelsea as can be seen by the instrument number being applied to both properties.)
  58. ↑ on what was then the Melbourne to Franskston Road, which later became the Point Nepean Road, and as it is called today the Nepean Highway.
    Walter bought this property from John George Aikman on 12 July 1922 for 216pounds
  59. ↑ to Lilian Elizabeth Smith, Annie Jane Orr and Milton Livingstone Davey. This is the third of 3 intial mortgages that appear to be taken out on this property. This third mortgage looks as though it was used to fund the additional property in Point Nepean Highway, Chelsea on the same day as this mortgage was taken out.
  60. ↑ with him were his wife and son Lincoln James Todman.
    He is listed in the trade section of Sands & McDougals as a Mechanical Engineer. He lived here until his death in 1929.
  61. ↑ Living with his wife, and working as an engineer.
  62. ↑ to Thomas Archibald a'Beckett.
  63. ↑ to Edith Eliza Moore, who it appears was the daughter of Thomas Abeckett.
  64. ↑ to Edith Eliza Moore, daughter of Thomas Abeckett.
  65. ↑ MONDAY NEXT,
    MAY 4.
    At Eleven O'clock. On the Premises,
    SU GLENHUNTLY ROAD
    00*. DOWNSHIRE ROAD, EISTERNWICK.
    MOTOR ENGINEERS' MACHINERY and PLANT, MOTOR ENGINEERS' MACHINERY and PLANT,
    MOTOR AND BICYCLE ACCESSORIES. MOTOR AND BICYCLE ACCESSORIES.
    3.H.P A.C. "CENTURY" ELECTRIC MOTOR.
    HIGH-SPEED S.E.N. LATHE, by Pitt Yorkshire
    Machine Co. 14ft. Gap Bed, 9in. Centre.
    5in. 4-JAW CUSHMAN INDEPENDENT CHUCK,
    5in 3-JAW CUSHMAN UNIVERSAL CHUCK, Milling Attachment and Lathe Tools. GA8 ENAMINELLING OVEN, H.F. STANDARD VUL- OaWreit, by Hervey, Frost, and Co.
    Stace, Drilling Machine, Wheel Building Jigs,
    ,«uo Dividing Machine, Anvil, Swage Block, Angle plates, Foot Bellows Vices, Engineers' ????, Emery Grinder, Shafting, Pulleys and Bolting, Chain Block and Tackle
    STOCK.
    7 TODMAN BICYCLES.
    Children's Trolley, Motor and Bicycle Tyre.- THE WHOLR MAY BE. FIRST OFFERED
    IN ONE LOT.
    ON VIEW THIS DAY, 9 - 12.
    J. W., STYLES and SON J. W., STYLES and SON Machinery Auctioneers, Valuers (Special Dept.),
    and Property Agents,
    361 Collins street Cent 4268.
  66. ↑ Todman - On the 14th October, at his residence No. 3 Cato Street, Prahran, Walter, much beloved husband of Martha Sarah Todman, loved father of Ruby, Ivy, Victor, Hazel, Lincoln, and Alma aged 63 years. Deeply regretted.
    ........

    TODMAN.-Thc Friends of WALTER TODMAN
    of N'o 3 Cato street. Prahran, are informed that his funeral will proceed per mortuary train, leaving No. 10 platform. Flinders street. THIS DAY (Tuesday), at 1.40 o'clock, for Interment, in the Necropolis. Springvale.

    RAYBOULDS, Funeral Directors, Prahran 'Phone Win. 17.
  67. ↑ TODMAN - The Friends of WALTER TODMAN of No. 3 Cato street, Prahran, are informed that his funeral notice will proceed per mortuary train, leaving No. 10 platform, Flinders street, THIS DAY (Tuesday), at 1.40 o'clock, for interment in the Necropolis, Springvale.
    RAYBOULDS, Funeral Directors, Prahran. Phone Win. 17.
  68. ↑ Walter died in October of 1929 before the mortgage was discharged.

    Shortly after Walter died, Thomas Archibald a'Beckett (one of the mortgagers) also died, after examining the registration # of his death certificate he appears to have died early in 1930 (Ref - Yr1930 Reg#3360)]. Thomas A'Beckett was probated on the 10 April 1930, however the land of Walter Todman wasn't mentioned in the Inventory of the Probate (PROV 234/216), the probate however did mention that Thomas had shares in Equity Co. (615) valued at £1076.50.0. He also had interest in the following partnership business's
    1. A'Beckett & Chomley
    2. A'Beckett, Chamley and Henderson (credit)
    share of costs outstanding (estimated)
    [Perhaps the land was tied up in the partnership business which is why we can't find probate for Walter?]

    The mortgage is transferred to William Hamilton James by two solicitors who were registered as Proprietors of the instrument of mortgage from Walter Todman.(I'm not sure what is meant by Proprietors of the instruments - if they were now the owners why isn't there a listing of them on the back of the title - to show change of title which is necessary to prove ownership in Victoria?).
  69. ↑ the mortgage was transferred to Julius Joseph Dennis by two solicitors who were registered as Proprietors of the instrument of mortgage from Walter Todman, the same two who involved in the sale of 3 Cato Street, Prahran.

    I have no idea why there is a 6 year delay in selling the Point Nepean Rd property in contrast to 3 Cato Street, Prahran.
    It appears that Walter refinanced 3 Cato Street, Prahran and Point Nepean Rd. Chelsea with the same two people (father and daughter) at the same time - it appears that the two transactions were linked.)

    It appears that the solicitors Henry Rawdon Francis Chomley and Allan Roderick Henderson had become the registered porporietors of Walter Todman's property which they sold for £216. (Chomley & Henderson were partners in business with a'Beckett who was the mortgager for Walter's property).
    (as yet we have been unable to find a will to establish what Walter owned at the death and whether his wife inherited any of the money after his death)
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