Person:Roger FitzRichard (3)

Disputed Lineages

It may be that separate families have been combined on this page.

Cawley, cited below, shows Richard FitzRoger as a son in the family of Roger FitzRichard, Lord of Warkworth, and Adelisa de Vere, and states that he founded Lythom Priory (citing Dugdale Monasticon IV, Lythom Priory, Northumberland, I, p. 282). In the document Cawley cites, Richard filius Rogeri does not name his parents.

Farrer, cited below, Sources 2, 3, and 4, has the parentage of the Richard son of Roger who founded Lythom Priory as follows: (1) His father -- Roger, son of Ravenkil, gave one carucate of land in Linacre to the brethren of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, and his name occurs in records of the period 1130-1157 (2) His grandfather -- Ravanchil, or Ravenkil, witnessesd Count Roger of Poictou's grant of the church of Lancaster to St. Martin of Seez in A.D. 1094. (3) His great-grandfather -- Raghanald probably flourished as Thane of Lytham, Bootle, Linacre, and Woodplumpton about the time of the Norman invasion. Farrer notes that this ancestry is conjectural and based on meagre records.

John Ravilious, in a post to SGM (4/19/07), gives this: Roger fitz Richard (died 1178), lord of Warkworth, was the son of Richard fitz Roger, who was the son of Roger le Bigod (died Sep 1107) and Adeliza de Tosny. Ravilious does not give Richard fitz Roger, the founder of Lythom Priory, as a son of Roger fitz Richard.

It would seem that either Cawley is in error in putting the founder of Lythom Priory in this family, or that Farrer was incorrect in his conjectured ancestry for him, or both.

1. ↑ ^1.0 1.1 ROGER FitzRichard Lord of Warkworth (-before 1185), in Cawley, Charles. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} Bootle, in Farrer, William, and John Brownbill. The Victoria history of the county of Lancaster. (London: A. Constable, 1906-1914).

   "The first known lord after the Conquest was Roger son of Ravenkil, who in 1129-30 was one of the men of the count of Mortain between Ribble and Mersey." (citing Farrer, Lanc. Pipe.R.1.)

3. ↑ Farrer, William. The Lancashire pipe rolls of 31 Henry I .... Henry II ... Richard I ... and King John ..: also early Lancashire charters of the period from the reign of William Rufus to that of King John. (Washington [District of Columbia]: Library of Congress Photoduplication Service, 1984)
   pages 1 to 3.

   "Rogerus filius Ranchil debet xxx. marcas argenti pro eadem concordia." Farrer notes on page 3 that the name of Roger, son of Ravenkill, shows up a few years later "among the names of thirty freemen, who viewed the boundary of Furness Fells some years later, upon the settlement of a dispute as to the division of Furness Fells between the abbot and monks of Furness and William de Lancaster."

4.   Farrer, William. The Lancashire pipe rolls of 31 Henry I .... Henry II ... Richard I ... and King John ..: also early Lancashire charters of the period from the reign of William Rufus to that of King John. (Washington [District of Columbia]: Library of Congress Photoduplication Service, 1984)
   pp. 43-44.
5.   Monasticon Anglicanum (New Edition)
   Volume 4, page 281, 1849.