Person:Nicholas Vincent (3)

Gene Zubrinsky wrote the following:

The date of Frideswide's marriage to Nicholas Vincent and his date of birth are unknown. It is virtually certain, however, that neither occurred in Nettlecombe. Gene Zubrinsky's notes for Richard Carpenter of Amesbury demonstrate that the claim of a Nettlecombe connection for Richard and his family is groundless (see MARRIAGE, OCCUPATION, and ESTATE sections); by implication, this also applies to the Vincents.

OLD NOTES:

NAME: SHOULD BE NICHOLAS NOT THOMAS Vincent. Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Vincents/Carpenters in Amesbury

... The records of the Church of England in Amesbury (FHL film 1279337 item 25) show William Vincent, baptized 17 June 1638, as the son of Nicholas and Frittisweed Vincent. The Vincent family in Amesbury heavily "recycled" the names Nicholas, Thomas, and William. There were Thomases contemporary with Nicholas. It seems likely that one became confused with the father of William who was baptised in 1638.

It is clear that there was a Fridgswith Carpenter who married a Vincent in Amesbury; there is a record (Austin; "Genealogical Dictionary of Rhiode Island", p.213) of her receiving title in 1671 to her father's house in Amesbury from her brother William Carpenter of Rhode Island. "Frittisweed" is a known variant of "Fridgswith" (The original Anglo-Saxon spelling of the name is not possible in modern English, so variants are inevitable.) Given the infrequent use of the name, it is logical to assume that Frittisweed in the baptismal record was the same person as Fridgswith in the real estate record. However, that is just an assumption, so far as I know. ... MORE The book by D. H. Carpenter has been cited as the probable source of the idea that the father of William was Thomas. Apparently, in 1900, a Rev. Phelps from Amesbury wrote to the author and cited "William, son of Thos. and ffrittisweed Vincent, baptised June 17, 1638" in the parish records. Carpenter published this info in his book. Howwever, in FHL film 1279337, Item 25, I have read the same passage but with "Nicholas" instead of "Thos."

Certainly, there were Thomas Vincents in Amesbury at that time. The family used almost nothing BUT" Thomas", "William", and "Nicholas" for the boys. Given the poor images that I saw in the film and the likely plethora of Thomases in the records, one must excuse Rev. Phelps for some confusion.

It is unfortunate, tho, that an apparent error in a letter written 100 years ago has been copied ad infinitum since then. Putting "Thomas Vincent" as search terms on the LDS page returns a barrelfull of records with the same error, not to mention the doubtful assignment of Susanna Trevelyan as Frittisweed/Fridgwith's mother. Even if I tried to contact the originators of the files, I would not succeed in changing records that the LDS church has buried under a mountain somewhere.

Richard Vincent

You searched for: Nicholas Vincent Birth/Christening, 1598 - 1618

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International Genealogical Index - British Isles

1. Nichol. VINCENT - International Genealogical Index / BI

Gender: M Christening: 18 Apr 1602 Kings Walden, Hertford, England

2. Nicholas VINCENT - International Genealogical Index / BI

Gender: M Christening: 2 Aug 1607 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

3. Nicholas VINCENT - International Genealogical Index / BI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1611 London, England

4. Nicholas VINCENT - International Genealogical Index / BI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1611 England

1. ↑ ^1.0 1.1 Richard^A Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire, in Zubrinsky, Eugene Cole. Carpenter Sketches: Links to Sketches And Articles Representing the Most Current and Reliable Scholarship Concerning Early Generations of the Carpenter Families of Rehoboth, Massachusetts, and Providence, Rhode Island and Their Ancestors. (Carpenters' Encyclopedia of Carpenters, 2008)
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   'FRIDESWIDE [pron. Friddusweed] CARPENTER ... m. before 16 Sept. 1632 (dau. Joan baptized at Amesbury), NICHOLAS VINCENT, bur. Amesbury 17 July 1671 (AmParReg 1:n.p., 2:n.p.; PrTR 5:323–24; Carpenter [1901] 321 mistakenly gives Nicholas’s forename as Thomas).'

2. ↑ Birth year estimated based on approx marriage year, assuming about age 25 at marriage.