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Family Group 4A

John Woodall (1740-1822) married Verlinda (Harvey) Woodall (abt.1770-abt.1841)

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Children and Family

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DNA Project Test Results

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Children of Family Group 4A John Woodall and Verlinda (Lincy) Harvey

Progenitors of Family Group 4A:
John Woodall (1740-1822)
Verlinda (Harvey) Woodall (abt.1770-abt.1841)
Children from the marriage:
Zephaniah Harvey Woodall (abt.1792-abt.1860) and Lavinia (Vest) Woodall (abt.1794-1872)
Sarah Sally (Woodall) Vest (abt.1794-1860) and John Vest (1788-1839)
John A Woodall (abt.1799-abt.1875) and Mary (Vest) Woodall (abt.1794-abt.1840)
Moses Woodall (1803-1893) and Needs Profile

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Inter-Family Connections

Family Group 4A John Woodall and Verlinda (Lincy Harvey)

Family Group 6 William who married Isabella Unknown and Judith Holmes

These families should have been acquainted with or at least heard of each other. Jasper County, Georgia and the surrounding area is where they seem to have co-existed for a period of time.

Connections to Jasper County, Georgia

Family Group 4A John Woodall and Verlinda (Lincy) Harvey
Zephaniah Harvey Woodall (abt.1792-abt.1860) was born abt. 1792 and married Lavinia (Vest) Woodall (abt.1794-1872) on 21 Apr 1814 both in Jasper, Georgia.
Sarah Sally (Woodall) Vest (abt.1794-1860) & John Vest (1788-1839) married 11 Aug 1811 in Jasper County Georgia.
Family Group 6 William Wooddall and Isabella Unknown / Judith Holmes
Alfred Cicero Spence Sr (1813-1904) was born in Jasper County.
John Spence Sr (1772-1834) & Frances (Whatley) Spence (1774-abt.1848) were married in Greene County, Georgia
Varches Delilah (Spence) Nally (1808-1890) was born in Greene County, Georgia and married Thomas Jefferson H. Woodall (1793-abt.1861) in Morgan County, Georgia.

1808-1817: The Jasper County Years

Family Group 4A and Family Group 6 lived in or around Jasper County, GA at the same time.
1792 Zephania Woodall was born in Jasper County, Georgia Family Group 4A
1804 November 17th, in Greene County, John Spence and Francis Whatley married
1808 October 20th: Purchased Land in Randolph County, Georgia
1808 December 9th: The Birth of Varchus Delila Spence Family Group 4A
1809 (About): The Move to Randolph County, Georgia
1810 December 16th: The Birth of Lucinda Spence
1811 January 8th: Randolph County Bond
1811 August 1st: A Farewell to Richland Creek
John and Sarah Woodall Vest married 11 Aug 1811 in Jasper County Georgia. Family Group 4A
1811 August 24th: The Death of Nelly Spence
1812 February 23rd: The Marriage of Margaret “Peggy” Spence
1812 December 10th: Randolph County, Georgia Changes Name to Jasper
1812: Service in the War of 1812?
1813 October 30th: The Birth of Alfred Cicero Spence
1814 Apr 21 Zephania marriage to Lavina Vest Family Group 4A
1815 April 13th: The Marriage of Elizabeth Spence
1816 July 6th: The Birth of Nancy Spence
1816-1817: The Death of Elizabeth Quinnelly
1817 December 25th: Purchased Land in Morgan County, Georgia

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Click here two examples of the connection between Woodall Groups Family Group 4A from John Woodall (1740-1822) and Verlinda (Harvey) Woodall (abt.1770-abt.1841) and Family Group 6 Woodalls from John Woodall (abt.1710-1806)l who married Isabella (Unknown) Wooddall (bef.1720-abt.1757) and Judith Cecilia (Holmes) Woodall (1750-)
John A Woodall (abt.1799-abt.1890) Template:Blue wife Mary (Vest) Woodall (abt.1794-abt.1840) is the 2C2R of Sarah (Nix) Wooddall (1841-1917) who married John Wesley Wooddall (1838-1923) of Family Group 6

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Native American Lineage

John, who married Lincy Harvey, has articles and a testimonial to the fact that they have somehow acquired a native bloodline. It is highly unlikely that this John is the son of Cornstalk, that Ancestry propagates this line to. This John is from Family Group 4 so the possibility would only exist if, like William Wagner Woodall, he ended up being adopted. I believe John of Genitoe Creek had two sons. Both William and John were shown by DNA to have been adopted. However, others claim that the two Vest sisters that John and Zephaniah married were half native. The different versions will be posted, and these and other claims will be listed below eventually:
Including articles:

Saddleback Valley Trails

Testamonial to Woodall Native Blood

Hamilton County Pioneers

William Woodall, father of Daniel Washington Woodall, served throughout the four years of the war, including the action at Lookout Mountain and Missionary Ridge. He told of riding on horseback from Lookout Mountain to Missionary Ridge and was stopped by a Yankee who cursed him but let him ride on. He fought in one of the last major battles of the war near Richmond for 20 straight hours and had a number of horses shot from under him. A naturalist and animal lover, he bemoaned the loss of each horse. He hid in a tree at the end of the war to escape capture and walked toward Decatur for three months until his shoes had worn away and his clothes were in tatters. William Woodall married Ellen Means, whose father, John Means, was born in Tennessee and married Dorcas Ann Kennedy, another Tennessee native. The Means family was originally from near Charlotte, N.C. William Woodall was a son of John Woodall, who was born in Georgia in 1799. John Woodall and his brother, Zephaniah Woodall, came to Alabama at about the time it was being formed into a state (1819).
They hailed from near Milledgeville, Ala. The Woodall brothers married 'two Vest sisters, who were believed to be the daughters of Valentine Vest, who lived near Milledgeville. Mrs. Roy Roberts said the Woodalls had Indian blood.
Excerpt from Hamilton-County-Pioneers Article
Death Certificate on Danial Woodall showing Roy Roberts as informant and William Woodall as father.

Random Notes on Various Woodalls

Notes for Jonathan Woodall:
Jonathan served in the revolutionary War.
Migrated to Lincoln County, Tennessee in 1816
The name of Zephaniah's father is unknown to me. So as to include John and Zephaniah as well as their other siblings, I have given their father the name "Jonathan," as carried by some Woodall researchers, who also carry the maiden name of their mother as "Harvey." It is certain that John, Zephaniah, and Sarah (Sally) are siblings and each of them married a Vest sibling. No one has offered proof, or even evidence, that Jonathan Woodall and [unknown] Harvey are the names of the parents. Zephaniah's middle name is Harvey and he named a son Zephaniah Harvey. "Jonathan" as a given name is found among the descendants.
Notes for Lincy Harvey:
Per Email from Sherry Lowery: "The story I have heard about the Woodall Indian blood is that Zephaniah Woodall's mother's maiden name was Harvey. Her father was an Indian agent in Georgia and her mother was an Indian. So far I have never confirmed this story and cannot cite an official source. Two other Woodall descendants who live in Morgan County told me this story."
Notes for Zephaniah Harvey Woodall:
(2005) It has recently come out that there is a belief that Zephaniah and Lavina were Indian. This is yet to be proven. From "A History of Morgan County, Alabama," by John Knox. "Family records state that the two brothers, John and Zepheniah Woodall, came to Alabama Territory from Milledgville, GA., in 1817, and located in Cotaco county [later renamed Morgan Co.] at about the center of it which is now between Hartselle and Somerville. There they married two Vest sisters . . . . It was not long until in that part of the county, twenty-four double cousins came into being from said marriages . . . ."
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Surnames Listing

Family Group 4A John and Verlinda Harvey Woodall Line through Eleanor Patricia Woodall (1943-2019)

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Alexander, Allgood , Allgood , Armstrong , Armstrong
Baker, Bakes , Beggett , Brockman , Bruner , Bryan
Caddell, Cates , Chaquelle , Cheek , Cole , Cullifer
DeMetz, Dean , Doss , Duck
Edmundson (Edmondson) , Edwards , Eppinger , Esling
Forbes
Gerbeaux, Goff , Gouchier , Green , Green , Griffen , Grogan , Groves
Hardwick, Harris , Harvey
Kennedy
Little, Long , Lyons
Martinet, Mason , Mathis , McCollister , McTyeire , Means , Mitchell , Molloy , Montgomery , Montgomery , Montgomery , Morris
Nix (Nicks)
Ormond, Ormond , Owen
Patenotte, Peoples
Rains, Roberts , Robinson , Roe , Rogers
Stanton, Sumrall
Tansell, Truss , Turner
Vest
Wade, Watson , Williams , Woodall

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DNA Results for Woodall Family Group 4A

The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black & Caspian Seas. This lineage is thought to descend from a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the domestication of the horse (circa 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage is found in central & western Asia, India, and in Slavic populations of Europe. Consists of 11 different progenitors.
Haplogroup R1a1 with mutation seen as M512 . The modern distribution of R1a1 has two widely separated areas of high frequency, one in South Asia, and the other in Eastern Europe. The demographic reasons for this are the subject of on-going discussion and attention among population geneticists and genetic genealogists. Haplogroup R1a1. Possible place of origin, Eurasia.R-M448. Defining mutations, M17, M198, M512, M514, M515, L168, L449 Results indicate that family group 4 goes back to the name of Odell with one group member going back to a William Odell,his son William Odell born June 17, 1656 in Marston Mortaine, Bedfordshire ,England. The Odell name originated in Bedfordshire. Quote from a reference book, ___THE WOODALLS OF TALBOT Abner and Salie Baugh Woodall PIONEERS OF TALBOT COUNTY, GEORGIA Ancestry, Family and Descendants___ by Margaret Woodall Browne and Jane Nicholson Grider, copyright 1993. "The name is ENGLISH in origin, but with a French-Norman background. William the Conqueror, in 1066, created the barony and made his brother-in-law, Walter de Flandrensis, Baron du Wuhulle. A feudal castle (now in ruins) lived in for years by the Barons of Wahulle, was located on the Ouse River in Bedfordshire." (source Hubbard O'Dell Ferrell. Origin of the name Odell, a manuscript page 1.) Origin of name from Old English wudu for wood, plus hull for hill or hall gives wudgull or wudhall. The name means living on a wooded hill or a dweller at the hall by the wood. Many, but not all group members can trace their family back to a John Woodall who first had land in Henrico County Virginia in 1719 (later boundary changes made it Goochland County). This John had his will recorded in 1747 and he died shortly before 9 March 1750, as his will probated on that date. In his Will he gives 150 acres of land to each of his 2 sons: John, William with his daughter Sarah Prior as Executrix of his will. He is illiterate and signs his name with just the letter "W" with a seal around the "W". His wife name is unknown and she is obviously dead at the time his Will was written in 1747. Test results show descendants of his son John and William do not match meaning one or both of his two sons were orphans and or adopted by John (his wife may have had children from a previous marriage or one or more children could have became orphans from friends or family of John and his wife. Other members of this family group can trace their line back to early colonial Maryland and Rhode Island. Family 4 now consists of forty-three testees, six of whom bear the name Odell. When one looks at the Oldest Ancestors page for this family, one will notice most of this family descends from John, the son of John Woodall of Gennytoe Creek, Goochland County.

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RootsWeb Oldest Ancestors Kits for John and Lincy Harvey Woodall

Kit Number 60073

  1. generation - Jonathan Woodall, born about 1740, married Lincy Harvey
  2. generation - Moses Woodall, born about 1803 in VA and died in 1893 in Montgomery Co., TN
  3. generation -   Wiley Washington Woodall, born 22 Feb 1840 in Robertson Co., TN and died 2 Dec 1917 in Montgomery Co., TN
  4. generation - William Austin Woodall, born 20 Feb 1875 in Montgomery Co., TN and died 13 May 1963 in Montgomery Co., TN
  5. generation - Alfred Leslie Woodall, born 27 Oct 1898 in Montgomery Co., TN and died 3 Jul 1991 in Montgomery Co., TN.

Kit Number 139617

  1. generation - Jonathan Woodall, born about 1740, married Lincy Harvey
  2. generation - Zephenia Harvey Woodall, born about 1792 in Jasper Co., GA and died after 1860
  3. generation - . Ewing M. Woodall, born about 1837 in AL and died after 1912.
  4. generation - Harvey Zephaniah Woodall, born 7 January 1873 in Tennessee.
  5. generation -   James Harvey Woodall, born about 1892 in Tennessee.
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Kit Number 87850

  1. generation - Jonathan Woodall, born about 1740, married Lincy Harvey
  2. generation - John  A. Woodall,  born about 1799 in Millegeville, GA and died in 1860 in Dresden, Navarro, TX. Married Mary Vest
  3. generation - Albert Newton Woodall, born about 1834 in AL and married Luticea A Wynn.
  4. generation -   Elkana Woodall, born about 1863 and married Antonia Lulu Seay.
  5. generation - Gettis Woodall, born 30 July 1897 in AL.

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